do people think the US military just gave up after ww2 and has no idea or materials to do anything anymore?
dont answer that, demoralized idiots do think that way
i mean, yeah. i've seen people who think that the us doesn't have the ability to do complex air operations anymore. you have to hand it to the russians, they really have pulled off an amazing demoralization campaign in the west.
>be russia and china >Sun Tzu said that you must appear weak when strong, and strong when weak >psyop western civilians into thinking their militaries are weak when they're actually strong >psyop your civilians into thinking your military is strong when it's weak >do nothing to actually weaken western militaries >do absolutely nothing to make your own militaries stronger >??????? >profit
stratagems beyond our comprehension anons
>russians... pulled off an amazing demoralization campaign in the west.
They just piggybacked onto already extant demoralization stemming from internal disputes. The greatest enemy was, and always will be, ourselves.
The Mulberry harbor barely worked and was destroyed in a storm. If it wasn't for the fact that the allies captured Antwerp the invasion would have been halted.
yes, makes no sense for a military to compete with civil engineering.
in a ww2 scenario you can draft those civil engineers.
at peacetime, you can hire contractors.
>makes no sense for a military to compete with civil engineering.
Yes, military endeavours are famous for never requiring too much specialized engineering, can just grab some road workers if you need em.
>On 16 June 1775, the Continental Congress, gathered in Philadelphia, granted authority for the creation of a "Chief Engineer for the Army". Congress authorized a corps of engineers for the United States on 11 March 1779. The Corps as it is known today came into being on 16 March 1802, when the president was authorized to "organize and establish a Corps of Engineers ... that the said Corps ... shall be stationed at West Point in the State of New York and shall constitute a Military Academy." A Corps of Topographical Engineers, authorized on 4 July 1838, merged with the Corps of Engineers in March 1863.
I think its a pretty big distinction as the op says >US military apparently still has the ability to build artificial harbors
using a picture of the Mulberry harbours which were British built and planned.
Stop blaming Russia for demoralizing Westerners. Want to know what demoralizes us? Black folk shoved in our faces. Endless hoards of brown people. Entertainment media PACKED with ugliness and gay shit. Everything getting worse by the year. And WORST of all, perhaps worse then everything else put together, is the utter disenfranchisement of our political power over our own governments so we can’t DO anything about those problems. Russia has FRICK ALL to do with any of that.
What is the stratetic advamtage of feeding the enemy of your ally? wouldnt it be better to ship them to magadascar or something to solve the problem instead of helping continue it in time
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/sunk-how-chinas-man-made-islands-are-falling-apart-and-sinking-ocean-132047
Oh no no no no build the bridges faster! Fricking hurry!
Not that surprising considering the US still maintains the нeизвecтнaя тeхнoлoгия known as a Bailey Bridge. This archeotech from the Dark Age of Perfidious Albion allows them to rapidly cross rivers without pontooning.
The Navy command in charge of this is a hilarious clown show btw. Would 100% recommend as a second tour for ensigns. You work under the most moronic captains in exitance and have a great time managing 1/6th of our entire deployable hardware as an O-2.
Yea, and don't look at how much gibs the US provides to other countries. It's also not like we hand them a massive pile of cash and send them on their way, it's mostly spent on US MIC products as a way to keep the production lines running at capacity.
Its a tiny price to pay to allow the israelites to maintain the destabilision of the islamic ummah. Any prevention of that evil spreading is an objective good.
Yea, and don't look at how much gibs the US provides to other countries. It's also not like we hand them a massive pile of cash and send them on their way, it's mostly spent on US MIC products as a way to keep the production lines running at capacity.
>Wait we're only getting 0.5% of the largest military budget in the world? >That's nothing, give us more! >Acktually giving us billions of dollars a year is good for you, somehow
Case in point.
4 billion dollars a year isn't nothing and giving away billions of dollars for free isn't as beneficial to us as you seem to think it is, MIC nonwithstanding. That's every single year, year after year, for decades. It used to be much more, back when the Israeli economy was literally entirely dependent on US aid.
Israel was the single largest recipient of US foreign aid for decades until Ukraine came along, and God knows they need it much more than you do, since they are using it to defend their homeland against a genocidal invader, instead of using it to commit genocide. This in addition to the massive cost of maintaining the naval presence in the red sea (your fault) and mustering aid to prevent a massive famine (also your fault). But thank you for proving my point that gratitude doesn't seem to be in the Israeli vocabulary. I wasn't previously aware that spending billions on an ally that has never once reciprocated that generosity in any way, shape or form was actually good for us and WE should be grateful.
>"How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give to Israel?" >The United States has given Israel more aid than any other nation since World War II, granting it more than $260 billion. >The U.S. commitment to aiding Israel has long-standing roots. The United States has given Israel more than $260 billion in combined military and economic aid since World War II, plus about $10 billion more in contributions for missile defense systems like the Iron Dome, a U.S. News analysis finds. That’s the most granted to any country throughout that time frame, and around $100 billion more than Egypt, the second-highest recipient historically.
See "ungratedul" above. Also see "homosexual", also above. Add "lying".
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>military aid
Afghanistan also got like $6 billion in civil aid.
>granting it more than $260 billion
That's in direct contradiction with official numbers here:
Building a pier is one thing, but setting up the logistics chain into Gaza is another. >barely any trucks/ drivers left in Gaza >No significant NGO presence left in Gaza to help with the distribution >Security needed with desperate people looting whatever makes it into Gaza >Security needed with Israeli armed forces attacking distribution points and aid convoys
Does this mean US boots on the ground?
>Does this mean US boots on the ground?
The Administration is trying to play weasel-games around it, but ultimately yes.
Which is moronic, because if anything's been learned about dealing with Arabs in this particular part of the world (broadly, too), it's that they don't know how to *not* bite the hand that feeds, often literally. The optics of striking the "Great Satan" will probably be too appealing to ignore and some asshat will detonate himself at a US-guarded and/or manned/staffed distro-point. Maybe on orders from the nebulous Iran>Hamas chain of command, maybe all on his lonesome.
Either way, we'll wind up with US troops who unironically will be made to die for Israel.
Which by the way, let's unpack that: >/pol/estinians and /bunkertrannies/ have been incessantly trolling the nominally right-of-center weapons board over right-of-center US support for Israel >*Left-of-center* president (who's base inherently and historically has hated Israel) will send US Armed Forces to Israel >Troops could possibly "die for Israel"
Truly the most sane and orderly timeline.
US Navy
Sail old ship USS Liberty off the 'Palestinian' coast
USS Liberty mysteriously sinks with no need for US scuttling charges
= instant low-cost Harbour construction
I like how we've reached the point in /misc/estinian brigading where they've dropped most of the moral-gayging and are reduced to screeching about aid, not realizing it's essentially a glorified jobs program for the MIC and that the Palis receive more aid than any other refugee group on the planet, having received over $40 BILLION dollars over decades.
For the uninitiated
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68506356
do people think the US military just gave up after ww2 and has no idea or materials to do anything anymore?
dont answer that, demoralized idiots do think that way
i mean, yeah. i've seen people who think that the us doesn't have the ability to do complex air operations anymore. you have to hand it to the russians, they really have pulled off an amazing demoralization campaign in the west.
>be russia and china
>Sun Tzu said that you must appear weak when strong, and strong when weak
>psyop western civilians into thinking their militaries are weak when they're actually strong
>psyop your civilians into thinking your military is strong when it's weak
>do nothing to actually weaken western militaries
>do absolutely nothing to make your own militaries stronger
>???????
>profit
stratagems beyond our comprehension anons
>russians... pulled off an amazing demoralization campaign in the west.
They just piggybacked onto already extant demoralization stemming from internal disputes. The greatest enemy was, and always will be, ourselves.
people think that because the U.S. military makes insane shit look easy to the point everyone is desensitized.
The Mulberry harbor barely worked and was destroyed in a storm. If it wasn't for the fact that the allies captured Antwerp the invasion would have been halted.
The remaining harbour (reinforced with the pieces of the damaged harbour) was still operating at full capacity at the end of the war
yes, makes no sense for a military to compete with civil engineering.
in a ww2 scenario you can draft those civil engineers.
at peacetime, you can hire contractors.
>makes no sense for a military to compete with civil engineering.
Yes, military endeavours are famous for never requiring too much specialized engineering, can just grab some road workers if you need em.
>On 16 June 1775, the Continental Congress, gathered in Philadelphia, granted authority for the creation of a "Chief Engineer for the Army". Congress authorized a corps of engineers for the United States on 11 March 1779. The Corps as it is known today came into being on 16 March 1802, when the president was authorized to "organize and establish a Corps of Engineers ... that the said Corps ... shall be stationed at West Point in the State of New York and shall constitute a Military Academy." A Corps of Topographical Engineers, authorized on 4 July 1838, merged with the Corps of Engineers in March 1863.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/18/us-coast-guard-forgot-build-ships-arctic-defense/
They should legitimately trade a costco for the hostages.
Not at all. That's not something you lose the ability to do if you maintain your civilisation at all
I'm not really surprised by any capabilities of the US military, they seem pretty based to be honest.
t. latest NATO member.
Because they are not poor.
>Russia has officially been moved into Asia
40 million Polacks just explosively orgasmed
Scratch a Russian and you will find a Tartar.
I genuinly think the US has extraterrestrial technology so no, I'm not surprised they can competently corral fricking water.
You can built a basic harbor just by dumping a lot of rocks.
b-but the west has fallen!
Uncle Sam already has my tax money if he’s gonna spend it might as well be on weapons
They're building this to aid the people who want to kill the israelites this time
>US spends more $ than everyone combined
>Thirdies surprised that US can do things
Mulberry Harbours were British built not American moron.
>caring about the smallest of details
Man dubya-dubya too threads really bring out the autistic pedantic spergs
I think its a pretty big distinction as the op says
>US military apparently still has the ability to build artificial harbors
using a picture of the Mulberry harbours which were British built and planned.
61111111
There is an election coming and the libs are mad at Biden because muh Palestine so he is going to hedge his bets.
mad
Post nose.
Stop blaming Russia for demoralizing Westerners. Want to know what demoralizes us? Black folk shoved in our faces. Endless hoards of brown people. Entertainment media PACKED with ugliness and gay shit. Everything getting worse by the year. And WORST of all, perhaps worse then everything else put together, is the utter disenfranchisement of our political power over our own governments so we can’t DO anything about those problems. Russia has FRICK ALL to do with any of that.
This anon is correct, the Russians merely exploited the opportunities handed to them by our neoliberal ruling class
What is the stratetic advamtage of feeding the enemy of your ally? wouldnt it be better to ship them to magadascar or something to solve the problem instead of helping continue it in time
Thanks for the idea
t.chang
implessive
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/sunk-how-chinas-man-made-islands-are-falling-apart-and-sinking-ocean-132047
Oh no no no no build the bridges faster! Fricking hurry!
Not that surprising considering the US still maintains the нeизвecтнaя тeхнoлoгия known as a Bailey Bridge. This archeotech from the Dark Age of Perfidious Albion allows them to rapidly cross rivers without pontooning.
>The ancient forbidden Double Bailey Bridge
The Navy command in charge of this is a hilarious clown show btw. Would 100% recommend as a second tour for ensigns. You work under the most moronic captains in exitance and have a great time managing 1/6th of our entire deployable hardware as an O-2.
How much is USA even giving aid to Israel? People say all the time how drains all your money but what are the numbers?
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL33222
Isn't that only like 0.5% of the military budget?
Yea, and don't look at how much gibs the US provides to other countries. It's also not like we hand them a massive pile of cash and send them on their way, it's mostly spent on US MIC products as a way to keep the production lines running at capacity.
Its a tiny price to pay to allow the israelites to maintain the destabilision of the islamic ummah. Any prevention of that evil spreading is an objective good.
>Wait we're only getting 0.5% of the largest military budget in the world?
>That's nothing, give us more!
>Acktually giving us billions of dollars a year is good for you, somehow
Case in point.
4 billion dollars a year isn't nothing and giving away billions of dollars for free isn't as beneficial to us as you seem to think it is, MIC nonwithstanding. That's every single year, year after year, for decades. It used to be much more, back when the Israeli economy was literally entirely dependent on US aid.
Israel was the single largest recipient of US foreign aid for decades until Ukraine came along, and God knows they need it much more than you do, since they are using it to defend their homeland against a genocidal invader, instead of using it to commit genocide. This in addition to the massive cost of maintaining the naval presence in the red sea (your fault) and mustering aid to prevent a massive famine (also your fault). But thank you for proving my point that gratitude doesn't seem to be in the Israeli vocabulary. I wasn't previously aware that spending billions on an ally that has never once reciprocated that generosity in any way, shape or form was actually good for us and WE should be grateful.
homosexual.
>Israel was the single largest recipient of US foreign aid for decades
This has been false for decades...
>muh genocide
Ah, I see.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2023-10-10/how-much-aid-does-the-u-s-give-to-israel
>"How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give to Israel?"
>The United States has given Israel more aid than any other nation since World War II, granting it more than $260 billion.
>The U.S. commitment to aiding Israel has long-standing roots. The United States has given Israel more than $260 billion in combined military and economic aid since World War II, plus about $10 billion more in contributions for missile defense systems like the Iron Dome, a U.S. News analysis finds. That’s the most granted to any country throughout that time frame, and around $100 billion more than Egypt, the second-highest recipient historically.
See "ungratedul" above. Also see "homosexual", also above. Add "lying".
>military aid
Afghanistan also got like $6 billion in civil aid.
>granting it more than $260 billion
That's in direct contradiction with official numbers here:
Building a pier is one thing, but setting up the logistics chain into Gaza is another.
>barely any trucks/ drivers left in Gaza
>No significant NGO presence left in Gaza to help with the distribution
>Security needed with desperate people looting whatever makes it into Gaza
>Security needed with Israeli armed forces attacking distribution points and aid convoys
Does this mean US boots on the ground?
>Does this mean US boots on the ground?
The Administration is trying to play weasel-games around it, but ultimately yes.
Which is moronic, because if anything's been learned about dealing with Arabs in this particular part of the world (broadly, too), it's that they don't know how to *not* bite the hand that feeds, often literally. The optics of striking the "Great Satan" will probably be too appealing to ignore and some asshat will detonate himself at a US-guarded and/or manned/staffed distro-point. Maybe on orders from the nebulous Iran>Hamas chain of command, maybe all on his lonesome.
Either way, we'll wind up with US troops who unironically will be made to die for Israel.
Which by the way, let's unpack that:
>/pol/estinians and /bunkertrannies/ have been incessantly trolling the nominally right-of-center weapons board over right-of-center US support for Israel
>*Left-of-center* president (who's base inherently and historically has hated Israel) will send US Armed Forces to Israel
>Troops could possibly "die for Israel"
Truly the most sane and orderly timeline.
Yes, and I have a horrible feeling the israelites are going to do a USS Liberty 2.0.
US Navy
Sail old ship USS Liberty off the 'Palestinian' coast
USS Liberty mysteriously sinks with no need for US scuttling charges
= instant low-cost Harbour construction
What exactly did you think you were accomplishing by making two posts seething about a completely unrelated topic?
How will they build this harbour under fire from Israeli air force and artillery.
Will the US Navy be shooting down Israeli F-35s?
I like how we've reached the point in /misc/estinian brigading where they've dropped most of the moral-gayging and are reduced to screeching about aid, not realizing it's essentially a glorified jobs program for the MIC and that the Palis receive more aid than any other refugee group on the planet, having received over $40 BILLION dollars over decades.
What is it with Americans and WE WUZing
Mulberry harbour was made by the UK You nog