Any reason why the russians dig their trenches so shallow?

Any drone bomb easily hits them all.

Can't they dig some holes that are 2 meters deep, and also build a top cover. So they can sleep inside there without any fear of getting bombarded.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ground is frozen solid. And they don't get any food.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ground is frozen solid
      and that's why you use explosives instead of shovels

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      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        chances that mobiks will ever be issued those: 0%

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So this thing fires a shaped charge into the ground, then launches itself into the hole, and then the main charge blows out a foxhole? That's nuts, I like it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >don't have food or water
        >think they'll get this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We already ate all the explosives тoвapиш.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Digging is hard, you just have a that stupid small trench showel, there are tree roots, rocks and the soil is probably frozen, you are tired, sleep depraved, hungry, thirsty and demoralized, you know that you'll never get out of that shit alive, so you just stop caring..

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Digging a trench in frozen ground:
    (Loud phonk music because Ukraine)
    We see top cover all the time. Sometimes they just lay branches and tarps over the top of a trench, other times they dig pretty sophisticated dugouts.
    But in order to collect a bunch of branches you need a lot of time not being shot and a way to walk to the nearest trees without getting shot.
    This looks like a 'middle of the battlefield' trench, not a 'the squad has lived here for 3 months' trench, note the lack of trash.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Digging is hard, you just have a that stupid small trench showel, there are tree roots, rocks and the soil is probably frozen, you are tired, sleep depraved, hungry, thirsty and demoralized, you know that you'll never get out of that shit alive, so you just stop caring..

      >Digging is hard, you just have a that stupid small trench showel, there are tree roots, rocks and the soil is probably frozen

      digging holes through tree roots with just a shovel is a fricking hard

      >digging holes through tree roots with just a shovel is a fricking hard
      I do most of the hard work digging with a pick axe, but I don't think I've ever seen a soldier with one. The guy in the catbox is using a wood axe ffs, is the shortage of basic hand tools really so severe?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Frick. Yeah that’s a really good point. I can’t imagine trying to do any serious digging in harder soil without a pick axe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think the soil is so hard frozen that with an axe you can slice your way in a slice at the time, try to cut a tree with a showel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I get why he's not using a shovel for it, my question was why he's using a wood splitter instead of a pick

          Yeah cause pickaxes are heavy and no one wants to carry one around

          Well worth the effort if it saves you trying to dig with a fricking axe.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well I guess that's what they had available in that hole, better than nothing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, it's just the availability. A shovel is part of standard kit since soviet times, an axe is abundant in stores and rural guys have them already, where the frick would you even get a pick axe? Most people haven't seen that shit here.

              I understand he's using it because he doesn't have anything better, my question is how the basic tool shortage can be so severe. You can buy a shitty one for $15 at any hardware store but the great armies of the world can't get one or two per trench? No soldier has ever worked construction or gardened and thought to bring one?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >how the basic tool shortage can be so severe
                Here's the hierarchy of issues:
                1. People need to know the tool exists;
                2. People need to have the tool available to them;
                3. (or) People need to be able to acquire the tool;
                I.e. you could provide them to soldiers via volunteer donations (I'm pretty sure you can find a pair in the local hardware store), but they're definitely not something available in the army as standard kit, nor do people even know about them being used for digging shit.

                >No soldier has ever worked construction or gardened and thought to bring one?
                They are rarely used here in such use-cases.
                Bruh, you need to understand that soil is different. Outside of winter, the soil is very soft generally, outside of roots and shit, you don't need pick axes to dig things, pick axes are something like an old-school mining equipment for people here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah cause pickaxes are heavy and no one wants to carry one around

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, it's just the availability. A shovel is part of standard kit since soviet times, an axe is abundant in stores and rural guys have them already, where the frick would you even get a pick axe? Most people haven't seen that shit here.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            his puny 1.5-lb axe is making no progress.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Modern folding entrenching tools have a pickhead. Not sure when that got included and I really wouldn't want to be the one to dig through compacted C horizon earth with a shovel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >note the lack of trash
      teller of truths spotted

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is a big flood plain, the ground is probably infested with pebbles and stones like trying to dig a riverbed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Opposite. Its ancient seabed so the soil is loose and the walls crumble from grenade shockwaves.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also floodplain = water, water table is a typical paradise Europe 3m pull from the well. Which also means your dugout needs to be submersible.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    drill some holes, put some charges in there, repeat

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >frozen ground
    >did you see their tiny ass shovels?
    >they dont have enough energy cause of shitty food or lack of it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >green
      >green
      >green

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They don't understand how to dig into the ground.

    Idiots will say. It's cold. Thats why. Sadly enough nothing has been invented where you can dig a small hole then place something that might... Explode... In the hole, breaking apart the... Ground. Take out rubble repeat

    No one has invented anything that explodes so I guess the ground being so heckin cold and tummies are getting the grumblies a 2 foot "trench" dug in a way that diverse blast from the surrounding area as well as anything that falls into the person is acceptable

    Jesus fricking Christ

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most midwit post

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Stfu vatnik

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So they can escape from them at a moments notice.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's shallowly.
    I REFUSE TO SUPPORT THE DEATH OF THE ADVERB

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >why did Russians make their trenches so shallow?
      An adjective is appropriate here.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    those are forward trenches and they're heavily shelled all the time

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    digging holes through tree roots with just a shovel is a fricking hard

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have all the clips on that guy in the pic. I wonder if he got traded back.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a deeper trench isnt going to stop you from getting drone suicided or a grenade dropped on you
    and a deeper trench will make it harder to jump out of the way of a grenade that is dropped on you
    and when you are """taking ground every day""" why would you dig a "proper" trench only to abandon it right away?
    so much wasted energy

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The most shitty Russian trenches are those captured from Ukraine. They admit on their own that recent Russian trenches are better because they can't bully digging Russians as much due to the lack of artillery.

    Official Ukraine war trench rating
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    ditches

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"it was a hohol trench!"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      moron

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Those aren't trenches, they're anti-tank ditches

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You see plenty of proper depth zigger trenches in areas further back, but on the front, (where most drones are), they haven't had time to dig them deep enough due to the above mentioned shit slowing them down and the fact that they're constantly getting shelled and bombs dropped on their heads.
    In case you forgot, the entire Russian strategy is basically "Throw meat at an area until they manage to dig trenches deep enough to burrow in like rats, repeat until Kyiv is ours xaxaxa", it's unironically more useful for zigger commanders to give their slaves a shovel than bullets.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's cheaper.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    anon bought all the shovels.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In Soviet Russia trench digs you

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been in some of their trenches, they all were very narrow but pretty deep, deeper than two meters. In my experience the Ukrainian trenches are more shallow and generally worse. Pidors are master diggers, you should give them that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Btw we don't use explosives for trench digging. The infantry diggs, not the engineers, because the engineering units are very scarce.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been in some of their trenches
      Any anecdotes for us?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They have unironic propaganda memos printed out. I specifically remember two sheets at the m-gunner place, it was funny to read, it's like I returned to the USSR

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In my town you are no digging further than a palm if you don't have a pickaxe in some areas. And that palm is going to make you sweat like a pig. Also, good luck not finding a frickload of rocks in your way. Those human high trenches would be impossible without heavy machinery.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's gotta be a door somewhere. I'd just fly my drone in through the door.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely not-comfy, but there's a wagner prisoner digging his own grave with a pick axe around 0:56

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of training and supplies. There's actually a bit of an art to digging foxholes and trenches and you need something to brace the sides so the whole thing doesn't collapse when it rains or gets shaken by artillery.

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