It's a shame normalgays have access to AI fun. Especially mega corps I wanted to see the power of autism drive AI into the next gen with some shitty home rig setup that should detonate at just pulling up firefox
It's hard to tell what exactly was going on, but it was failures to feed of some sort. The first problem looked like the officer didn't have a round chambered, then it wouldn't feed when he tried loading it, and you can see the top cartridge in the magazine not sitting right at 2:42. I'm surprised he didn't ditch that mag and use another one. Whatever happened, we can all agree that these problems never would have happened with a revolver.
>wouldn't feed when he tried loading it, and you can see the top cartridge in the magazine not sitting right at 2:42. I'm surprised he didn't ditch that mag and use another one.
this. Any correct training would involve stripping the mag completely, rack rack rack, gas it up and go. (In the words of the great Travis Haley). These cops are fricking moronic, imagine having multiple magazines and fumbling around with the one out of the fight while you get shot at.
Another good video to showcase their incompetence was the recent one where the guy didn't pay his alimony and they pulled him over and he pulled an AR and mowed them down. The cop in that instance instead of choosing to mag dump the guy, he chooses to run away with his back turned and get ventilated. Distance is not your friend when it becomes rifle vs. Pistol, you should end the fight as fast as possible or just completely HAUL ASS away into the next county. But this half ass "in the fight out of the fight" shit will get you killed.
>Distance is not your friend when it becomes rifle vs. Pistol,
Rifle vs Pistol engagements have a pretty predictable outcome, no matter the distancie, calibre, configuration. Always. Wonder why. Always.
>The cop in that instance instead of choosing to mag dump the guy, he chooses to run away with his back turned and get ventilated.
You mean the cop that had his gun go down while he was trying to carefully move out to shoot at the guy, only to realize that he had massively exposed himself in the process?
>Distance is not your friend when it becomes rifle vs. Pistol,
Rifle vs Pistol engagements have a pretty predictable outcome, no matter the distancie, calibre, configuration. Always. Wonder why. Always.
>Rifle vs Pistol engagements have a pretty predictable outcome
Really? Here's one where the guy with the pistol won at 71 yards while under fire. A more skilled shooter with a pistol can absolutely best a less skilled shooter with a rifle. The problem is that most cops put in basically no practice with their pistols.
https://www.police1.com/active-shooter/articles/10-lessons-from-the-fairchild-afb-shooting-11AZrSqTp4IM3diw/
Don't forget that CIA SAD guy that was undercover as an embassy assistant. Insurgents tried rolling on him with SUVs and AKs. He killed all of them with a Sig P229
>The problem is that most cops put in basically no practice with their pistols.
After that thread a couple weeks ago with the articles abut how most cops don't even practice more than once or maybe twice a year and only shoot 50-100 rounds per session or sometimes less, I'm starting to get really sick of how much discussion is based around the idea that police are closer to the average person who cares about shooting in their abilities rather than the average gang member.
>Really? Here's one where the guy with the pistol won at 71 yards while under fire.
Yeah man this 1 exception totally means pistols are on par with rifles
>we can all agree that these problems never would have happened with a revolver.
You're a dipshit since yes you are right but now you're trading one group of problems for another.
The only thing that would potentially get damaged from repeated chambering of the same cartridge is the rim, but I think a person who unloads and reloads the same round that much would have noticed how chewed up the rim was getting before it got to be a failure point.
Gun powder grains will break down into smaller particles. Going from hot to cold or cold to hot environments with the same ammo over time will also break it down. Then you will start to get delayed combustions (hangfire) or weaker combustion (squib). Its why you should fully rotate your carry ammo at least every few months if not more frequently.
This is extremely autistic, I have cans of 20 year old shotgun powder that still functions flawlessly (chronographed to verify that power is unchanged)
Is the shotgun powder attached to your hip 12 hours a day? Being constantly jostled around randomly? Going from a warm vehicle into winter weather and back again, frequently, within the spawn of an hour?
No?
Then shut the frick, moron. Jesus FRICKIN Christ you are a stupid motherfricker.
The first rounds you shoot at the range should be what you've been EDC. It's the only way to know you're gun would've gone bang if you needed it.
Any civilian should have range time at least once a month. A cop should have more.
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>Any civilian should have range time at least once a month. A cop should have more.
How about you focus on more immediately achievable goals, like getting most cops to go to the range more than just once or twice per year.
Gun powder grains will break down into smaller particles. Going from hot to cold or cold to hot environments with the same ammo over time will also break it down. Then you will start to get delayed combustions (hangfire) or weaker combustion (squib). Its why you should fully rotate your carry ammo at least every few months if not more frequently.
There is a story about a cop who kept clearing and chambering the same two rounds over the years...never switched them out. He got in a gunfight and those two rounds failed to fire. The primer compound came loose and didn't ignite.
Nah bro glocks are just totally the worst things ever made, my [insert gun brand that you pledged your allegiance to here] is the greatest thing ever made and anyone that disagrees is stupid and dumb and im totally smarterer!
I own a glock that I have not been kind to and have never experienced a failure of this magnitude (or at all, really). I would like to see the armorer's breakdown of what happened there.
I've dual wielded just fricking around and I couldn't do it. Now I wonder if police are issued low powered ammo that can't cycle the pistol. Maybe they are worried about a weaker person and recoil or follow up shots.
Prob a shitty aftermarket mag I’ve done burn downs of glocks and a CZ p10c. P10c gen 2 completely locked up with a round in the chamber after 400 rounds. Glocks never quit.
Glocks are probably one of the most common if not the most common handguns used by police so any OIS that's recorded is likely going to have a glock
Glocks are also prone to not cycling when held improperly, IE under duress
Cops are also dipshits that don't clean their weapons
Also glock cycling might be impacted by WMLs or other mounted accessories
Add these factors together and you get failures to cycle and feed on camera all the time
>nobody wanted shitty $15 plastic pistols >in final act of desperation, glocks gives them away for free to police >markets it as the preferred gun of police >sell them for $500 to idiots and larper civilians. >He fell for the glock is reliable meme
it's because every police activity video is some crazy shit where an officer needs to fumble with his gun and either limp wrists or gets slide bite and it stops it from cycling
also, i blame shitty mags. i bought some police trade-in glock mags and they have near-zero spring tension. sounds like copium but im not a glock shill just a glock enjoyer
This is probably a repeat of the flawed training the police received back in the 60's combined with shitty allocation of funds, buying dumb frick SWAT toys and 9001 ways to "less lethal" a rampaging pavement ape.
I honestly don't see how they can frick up a Glock mag, they're amazing and bomb proof mags. Plus keeping your mags loaded doesn't lower spring tension it's actively removing and putting rounds in that stress the springs.
I think they just don't load their mags properly and also stress hit the mag release sometimes because they don't use thumbs forward grip. I've seen issues where if you rack a round in the chamber and pull the mag out the next round doesn't seat properly. This can be remediated by checking your mag after loading your gun and making sure the next round is seated correctly.
read the video description, he was known to be a threat and had already assaulted someone and ran back into the house after causing issues to begin with.
Wear and tear. Cops rack and unrack those things day in and out for years on end before they let one fly. You ever notice that quality hollowpoints have dimples halfway down the casing? yeah, they are there for just that reason. You add in the fatigue on the mag springs, dirt buildup on an oc erry day carry (bro, you dont even clean after range days, dont tell me you gunna clean after every second shift) and yeah, shit happens.
I just saw this after I posted and I am inclined to agree after watching the vid again. Cops are always beating around on their gear and changing rounds out and unloading due to policy and shit, when they check their guns back in end of shift. Unironically if they just kept their damn guns loaded all the time they wouldn't have had this issue.
There is a story about a cop who kept clearing and chambering the same two rounds over the years...never switched them out. He got in a gunfight and those two rounds failed to fire. The primer compound came loose and didn't ignite.
Why do they UN chamber and rechamber every day? I assume because they are moronic
>This one took the officer out of the initial fight
Uh, he was never in it., Are we really doing this fricking thread again?
He obviously wasn't chambered to start, and had a fully loaded mag and short stroked it. basically half ripping a round out, and somehow managed a double feed or a round is just vertical in the mag stuck between the slide and barrel maybe?
one of these 2 must have happened because he's having issues pulling the mag because a round is stuck that's still in the mag, we even see a round almost all the way out of the mag in the video
Also i forgot to mention it looks like he not only didn't have a round chambered, but seems like he didn't fricking seat the mag properly compounding his issue
>finally get to kill somebody
jams
Unironically should have bought HK
Partly it’s that the Glock is the most used pistol in general so there’s more recorded instances of it failing. Availability heuristics meme.
Also it’s cuz it’s the most used by lazy cawps.
Also bc it’s a shitty gun
Needs more fingers
>AI shit
>poster is also partially moronic
Shocking
It's a shame normalgays have access to AI fun. Especially mega corps I wanted to see the power of autism drive AI into the next gen with some shitty home rig setup that should detonate at just pulling up firefox
Why does AI always give people six fingers?
Did he even fire a shot? How did it jam?
Looks like he had multiple double feeds, when he stripped the mag, the slide went home but extractor didn't slip over case rim?
It's hard to tell what exactly was going on, but it was failures to feed of some sort. The first problem looked like the officer didn't have a round chambered, then it wouldn't feed when he tried loading it, and you can see the top cartridge in the magazine not sitting right at 2:42. I'm surprised he didn't ditch that mag and use another one. Whatever happened, we can all agree that these problems never would have happened with a revolver.
>wouldn't feed when he tried loading it, and you can see the top cartridge in the magazine not sitting right at 2:42. I'm surprised he didn't ditch that mag and use another one.
this. Any correct training would involve stripping the mag completely, rack rack rack, gas it up and go. (In the words of the great Travis Haley). These cops are fricking moronic, imagine having multiple magazines and fumbling around with the one out of the fight while you get shot at.
Another good video to showcase their incompetence was the recent one where the guy didn't pay his alimony and they pulled him over and he pulled an AR and mowed them down. The cop in that instance instead of choosing to mag dump the guy, he chooses to run away with his back turned and get ventilated. Distance is not your friend when it becomes rifle vs. Pistol, you should end the fight as fast as possible or just completely HAUL ASS away into the next county. But this half ass "in the fight out of the fight" shit will get you killed.
>Distance is not your friend when it becomes rifle vs. Pistol,
Rifle vs Pistol engagements have a pretty predictable outcome, no matter the distancie, calibre, configuration. Always. Wonder why. Always.
>The cop in that instance instead of choosing to mag dump the guy, he chooses to run away with his back turned and get ventilated.
You mean the cop that had his gun go down while he was trying to carefully move out to shoot at the guy, only to realize that he had massively exposed himself in the process?
>Rifle vs Pistol engagements have a pretty predictable outcome
Really? Here's one where the guy with the pistol won at 71 yards while under fire. A more skilled shooter with a pistol can absolutely best a less skilled shooter with a rifle. The problem is that most cops put in basically no practice with their pistols.
https://www.police1.com/active-shooter/articles/10-lessons-from-the-fairchild-afb-shooting-11AZrSqTp4IM3diw/
Don't forget that CIA SAD guy that was undercover as an embassy assistant. Insurgents tried rolling on him with SUVs and AKs. He killed all of them with a Sig P229
>The problem is that most cops put in basically no practice with their pistols.
After that thread a couple weeks ago with the articles abut how most cops don't even practice more than once or maybe twice a year and only shoot 50-100 rounds per session or sometimes less, I'm starting to get really sick of how much discussion is based around the idea that police are closer to the average person who cares about shooting in their abilities rather than the average gang member.
>Really? Here's one where the guy with the pistol won at 71 yards while under fire.
Yeah man this 1 exception totally means pistols are on par with rifles
>These cops are fricking moronic
to be fair, they DIDN'T immediately shoot the guy for answering the door with a gun. they showed incredible restraint.
>we can all agree that these problems never would have happened with a revolver.
You're a dipshit since yes you are right but now you're trading one group of problems for another.
I'm guessing the same round was chambered multiple times so the extractor got damaged as did the primer compound and the case rim.
The only thing that would potentially get damaged from repeated chambering of the same cartridge is the rim, but I think a person who unloads and reloads the same round that much would have noticed how chewed up the rim was getting before it got to be a failure point.
Gun powder grains will break down into smaller particles. Going from hot to cold or cold to hot environments with the same ammo over time will also break it down. Then you will start to get delayed combustions (hangfire) or weaker combustion (squib). Its why you should fully rotate your carry ammo at least every few months if not more frequently.
This is extremely autistic, I have cans of 20 year old shotgun powder that still functions flawlessly (chronographed to verify that power is unchanged)
It is stored in a garage without heat or ac
Is the shotgun powder attached to your hip 12 hours a day? Being constantly jostled around randomly? Going from a warm vehicle into winter weather and back again, frequently, within the spawn of an hour?
No?
Then shut the frick, moron. Jesus FRICKIN Christ you are a stupid motherfricker.
Not that anon but you're fricking moronic.
The first rounds you shoot at the range should be what you've been EDC. It's the only way to know you're gun would've gone bang if you needed it.
Any civilian should have range time at least once a month. A cop should have more.
>Any civilian should have range time at least once a month. A cop should have more.
How about you focus on more immediately achievable goals, like getting most cops to go to the range more than just once or twice per year.
You don't own a gun.
A carry gun is going to be a climate controlled environment 99% of the time. 80+ year old surplus ammo works fine 99% of the time. You are dumb.
There is a story about a cop who kept clearing and chambering the same two rounds over the years...never switched them out. He got in a gunfight and those two rounds failed to fire. The primer compound came loose and didn't ignite.
confirmation bias
Nah bro glocks are just totally the worst things ever made, my [insert gun brand that you pledged your allegiance to here] is the greatest thing ever made and anyone that disagrees is stupid and dumb and im totally smarterer!
Nah. Glock is good. As good as the 92, as good as a 75, some revolver and that's about it. The good handguns are well known is our day and age
yes, my hk and mp are better lmfao
This wouldn't have happened if they had a DA/SA pistol.
Do you believe that DA/SA pistols are not affected by failures to feed and are capable of firing even when the user has failed to chamber a round?
/k/ told me they're perfect and nothing ever bad happens with them.
/k/ is fricking moronic.
A $300 PSA dagger is just as good as an EDC provided its owned by a responsible person, as a fricking Beretta M9 owned by a clown.
>listening to rerarted no gun xoxols
I own a glock that I have not been kind to and have never experienced a failure of this magnitude (or at all, really). I would like to see the armorer's breakdown of what happened there.
I've dual wielded just fricking around and I couldn't do it. Now I wonder if police are issued low powered ammo that can't cycle the pistol. Maybe they are worried about a weaker person and recoil or follow up shots.
Prob a shitty aftermarket mag I’ve done burn downs of glocks and a CZ p10c. P10c gen 2 completely locked up with a round in the chamber after 400 rounds. Glocks never quit.
Glocks are probably one of the most common if not the most common handguns used by police so any OIS that's recorded is likely going to have a glock
Glocks are also prone to not cycling when held improperly, IE under duress
Cops are also dipshits that don't clean their weapons
Also glock cycling might be impacted by WMLs or other mounted accessories
Add these factors together and you get failures to cycle and feed on camera all the time
>nobody wanted shitty $15 plastic pistols
>in final act of desperation, glocks gives them away for free to police
>markets it as the preferred gun of police
>sell them for $500 to idiots and larper civilians.
>He fell for the glock is reliable meme
People who have an actual seething hatred of glock are moronic contrarians. You sir are a gay and a massive moron.
I accept your concession
whats funny is that they still post like glocks are the most popular and shilled gun on this board even though its clearly the beretta 92
>never used gun oil
>glock is unreliable!!!!
>most tested pistol in military/police trials
Someone really needs to figure out why this is happening.
it's because every police activity video is some crazy shit where an officer needs to fumble with his gun and either limp wrists or gets slide bite and it stops it from cycling
also, i blame shitty mags. i bought some police trade-in glock mags and they have near-zero spring tension. sounds like copium but im not a glock shill just a glock enjoyer
This is probably a repeat of the flawed training the police received back in the 60's combined with shitty allocation of funds, buying dumb frick SWAT toys and 9001 ways to "less lethal" a rampaging pavement ape.
well no matter how good you are trained, if some Black person is grabbing your hands are you draw and you pull the trigger, the gun will not cycle.
This is why police need to carry a good fixed blade.
unironically go back to the revolvers of the 1950's
>not enough bullets for some situations
i know, it's for balance reasons though
All .44 Magnum or 10mm revolvers.
isnt 10mm auto sussy because it's nonrimmed and doesnt work great with speed loaders?
im a 357 man myself, and give the women 38spl ammo
>10mm revolver
cucked, just buy a .41 magnum its superior in every way
>b-but .41 is expensive!
stop being poor
ok, post yours.
Based victorian cops carrying sabers knew what they were up to.
I honestly don't see how they can frick up a Glock mag, they're amazing and bomb proof mags. Plus keeping your mags loaded doesn't lower spring tension it's actively removing and putting rounds in that stress the springs.
I think they just don't load their mags properly and also stress hit the mag release sometimes because they don't use thumbs forward grip. I've seen issues where if you rack a round in the chamber and pull the mag out the next round doesn't seat properly. This can be remediated by checking your mag after loading your gun and making sure the next round is seated correctly.
Cops knock on door at night, Didn't say its the police, shine torch at the guy, this guy getting a pay out?
if the guy was so afraid that he needed a gun, why would he answer the door? he knew wtf was up.
read the video description, he was known to be a threat and had already assaulted someone and ran back into the house after causing issues to begin with.
thumbnail looks like a gay blowjob
Wear and tear. Cops rack and unrack those things day in and out for years on end before they let one fly. You ever notice that quality hollowpoints have dimples halfway down the casing? yeah, they are there for just that reason. You add in the fatigue on the mag springs, dirt buildup on an oc erry day carry (bro, you dont even clean after range days, dont tell me you gunna clean after every second shift) and yeah, shit happens.
I just saw this after I posted and I am inclined to agree after watching the vid again. Cops are always beating around on their gear and changing rounds out and unloading due to policy and shit, when they check their guns back in end of shift. Unironically if they just kept their damn guns loaded all the time they wouldn't have had this issue.
Why do they UN chamber and rechamber every day? I assume because they are moronic
ZOGbots are dumb
use the glock, die and get mocked
>This one took the officer out of the initial fight
Uh, he was never in it., Are we really doing this fricking thread again?
He obviously wasn't chambered to start, and had a fully loaded mag and short stroked it. basically half ripping a round out, and somehow managed a double feed or a round is just vertical in the mag stuck between the slide and barrel maybe?
one of these 2 must have happened because he's having issues pulling the mag because a round is stuck that's still in the mag, we even see a round almost all the way out of the mag in the video
Also i forgot to mention it looks like he not only didn't have a round chambered, but seems like he didn't fricking seat the mag properly compounding his issue
>age restricted
before i go to invidious i would like to point out that this anon has given google his credit card or id