Another day, another win for FA-50

This time it's Africa.
https://www.military.africa/2024/01/senegal-to-acquire-fa-50-light-combat-aircraft-from-south-korea/
>There’s a buzz around the news that Senegal is moving forward with its plan to buy FA-50 Fighting Eagle light combat aircraft from South Korea. The exact numbers and costs aren’t known yet, but rumors suggest the order could be for four FA-50s, costing a whopping $147 million.

>Senegal’s move to include FA-50s in their fleet came about after unsuccessful plans to purchase L-39NG light attack aircraft from Aero Vodochody. General Pape Suleiman, the respected head of Senegal’s air force, announced his plan to find a new supplier for four light combat aircraft. He chose the FA-50s made by KAI.

>The FA-50 aircraft has sparked interest not just in Senegal, but across the whole African continent. Korean Aerospace Industries [KAI] announced in September 2022 that the first FA-50 would be shipped to an unspecified African nation. Both Senegal and Egypt are considered as possible recipients. The latter has recent ties with South Korea, arising from an agreement to produce T-50/FA-50 planes at their Helwan-based AOI aircraft factory. Historically, this factory was functional in building Chinese K-8E trainers, licensed specifically for the Egyptian Air Force. The current demand in Egypt for new trainer planes might direct the country towards acquiring as many as 100 aircraft.

Is there really no other aircraft that can compete in its class?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FA50 getting pilot ai controlled wingmen by 2028 too

    https://www.eurasiantimes.com/outflanking-chinas-jf-17-indias-tejas-south-korea/

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >four FA-50s, costing a whopping $147 million
    is this a good deal? couldn't they buy used falcons and gripens for more or less

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FA50 is better than gripen or even a used falcon at this point

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol asiaticshill

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are stupid on a profound level if you actually believe this

          Is this the weeb troony nipshill everybody keeps talking about spamming /k?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are stupid on a profound level if you actually believe this

          How much won did they pay you?

          NTA but the option of modern avionics on the FA-50 would definitely make it competitive with older block F-16s, though of course not newer or brand new planes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >competitive with older block F-16s
            Oh sure, against older block 16s. But newer blocks or Gripens? I dunno about that. It's a good choice for certain nations, just not the competition destroyer the guy thinks it is.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > Over 50% of all non-F35 of fighter jet globally sales in the past 24 months and a pipeline several times greater than what has already been sold

              FA50 is better than older block F16s

              The gripen is not even considered a realistic option by 99% of air forces globally irregardless of performance whether real or imagined, its probably better than what their actual procurement seems to suggest but what is abudently clear is that there is absolutely no credibility in this air frame let alone for millions of dollars of limited defense budget that every country except the US encounters, the only morons that even mention gripen are internet keyboard warriors, those with control over military budgets more often than not go with the FA50, make of that what you will

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was agreeing with you anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >irregardless

                Not a real word you dumb Black person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >FA-50 would definitely make it competitive with older block F-16s
            In what sense? Look at the combat radius and carry load of older F-16s. There is nothing the FA-50 wins in terms of against ANY F-16 built/upgraded after the 90s, let alone a new F-16 or a Gripen.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              PhantomStrike®, which is going to be the MFR in the latest generation of FA-50, is already slated to be on par with AN/APG-83 on F-16 in performance by Raytheon.

              https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/raytheon-unveils-compact-half-priced-gallium-nitride-aesa-radar/145611.article
              >Sandfier claims the compact AESA ought to have better performance than the radar installed on the US Air Force’s (USAF) F-16 fleet, the Northrop Grumman SABR APG-83 AESA.

              >“The compact AESA solution draws less power from the platform, which in turn allows for the radar to deliver targeting and tracking capabilities on par, if not better than, the bigger, heavier APG-83 AESA radar,” he says. ”The compact AESA solution has digital beam forming and steering, multimode functionality and interleaved ground and air targeting”.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's more of a budget radar for export customers, I bet. They won't reveal any specs about it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are stupid on a profound level if you actually believe this

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How much won did they pay you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's about the same price as AH-64E.
      A supersonic jet for the price of a new attack helicopter is unheard of. Not even poos can bring the price that low.
      It already has JDAM and Sniper ATP integrated, with BVR and AESA radar upgrades to ensue soon.
      It's literally the Freedom fighter of the 21st century.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's because its a fricking TRAINER. Its actual combat capabilities are fricking laughable compared to an actual 4th gen aircraft.
        Comparatively, the AH-64E is the most advanced attack helicopter available.
        asiaticshill, you NEED more content

        [...]
        Is this the weeb troony nipshill everybody keeps talking about spamming /k?

        >buzzwords in malding response
        Good comeback, asiaticshill. I see you on PrepHole complaining about jap men constantly. I'm sure they miss you right now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hurr durr muh trannies
          The trainer you're referring to is T-50 model, whereas FA-50 is a multirole fighter model which has the same internal fuel capacity and payload as the baseline Gripen. They even share the same GE F404 engine.
          F-16 and FA-50 have about the same wingspan.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            call it whatever you want. it still fricking sucks. your glorified trainer will never be a real air superiority/multirole and nobody but broke, irrelevant third worlders will buy your shitheap

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Let's play this moronic monkey tier logic out. So to break it down to you imbecile its essentially this:

              Top tier: F35, F22
              Decent tier: Eurofighter, Rafale, F15, F16 (new blocks)
              Gets the job done tier: FA50, F16 (older blocks)

              That's it, the KF21 will slot between top tier and decent tier, but closer to the F35/F22 than the eurofighter/rafale

              The chinese, russian, indian and even the gripen are not considered a realistic option by any other than the most desperate or the outcast nations

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's it, the KF21 will slot between top tier and decent tier, but closer to the F35/F22 than the eurofighter/rafale
                It's far too early to actually tell that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >putting Eurofighter and rafalel in the same category as F15/16

                okay buddy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >putting Eurofighter and rafalel in the same category as F15/16

                okay buddy

                it's more like
                Top tier: F35, F22
                Great tier: F15, F16 (new blocks)
                Good tier: Eurofighter, Rafale,
                Gets the job done tier: FA50, F16 (older blocks)

                KF21 wants to be between Top and Great tier, meaning it wont be chosen over either of those.
                Gripen is between Good and Gets the job done tier, which is why it also never gets chosen.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More like
                >Top tier: F22, F35, Eurofighter
                >Great tier: Rafale, Eurofighter(Old tranche)
                >Decent Tier: F15/16(New Blocks)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Gets the job done" tier being a platform to launch AMRAAMs seems like the least one can do to defend their airspace

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >b-b-but i-it's still a meme trannie...!!!
              Meanwhile, the RMAF sets out to replace all of its Sukhoi trash with it with BVR combats in mind.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >irrelevant
              >one of the best selling fighters on the market
              pick one
              Also, care to tell us how the glorious HAL Tejas beat a meager trainer like FA-50 in the Malaysian tender, as we all want to hear about it...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So then was the t-38 just a shitty trainer too? Zero functional capability?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      147 million burgerbucks would probably get them 2 F16s minus the ILS package. So yeah, I'd say 4 aircrafts at that price is a good deal.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >selling four aircraft
    >to jigaboos
    >win

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      poojeets still mad because no one wants their shitty plane lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >poo can't handle the reality
      Read the full text. Egypt is already in the queue with minimum 100 aircrafts to be license produced.

      It's over for you, Rajeesh.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Another day, another win for FA-50
    >Africa

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize Egypt is part of Africa?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        do you think that makes it less laughable?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the point of the FA-50? the Gripen uses the same powerplant but is better in pretty much every way.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gripen
      No longer produced. Only second hand ones are available. Employing it at this point is going to be a maintenance nightmare once the spares run out.
      The same reason why F-16 is so popular even though it's a 50 year old airframe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this post was brought to you by the MIC

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Employing it at this point is going to be a maintenance nightmare once the spares run out.
        are you talking about the f35 or gripen?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          F-35 is much cheaper and vastly superior to Gripens.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gripen E started production a couple of years ago and won't end for years.

        F-35 is much cheaper and vastly superior to Gripens.

        F-35 is MUCH more expensive than a Gripen E. Most of a plane's cost is maintaining it over the years.

        [...]
        it's more like
        Top tier: F35, F22
        Great tier: F15, F16 (new blocks)
        Good tier: Eurofighter, Rafale,
        Gets the job done tier: FA50, F16 (older blocks)

        KF21 wants to be between Top and Great tier, meaning it wont be chosen over either of those.
        Gripen is between Good and Gets the job done tier, which is why it also never gets chosen.

        Gripen can fire the Meteor missile. F-16 cannot fire the AIM-260 or any missile equivalent to the Meteor or AIM-260. F-16 is not better than the Typhoon at anything other than being cheaper.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gripen E
          Is such a plane that no other country except Sweden and Brazil has bought it yet. And yes F-35 is vastly better in terms of performance and maintenance due to its economies of scale.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wait... don't the Thais have them?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They got the older C/D variants

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Irrelevant points. Also, no, the F-35 is famously bad at maintenance, both in cost and readiness. The Gripen E can be maintained for long periods of time by the pilot, a sergeant, and some teenage conscripts. It doesn't even need tools to do most maintenance tasks.

            There's no reason anybody didn't buy Gripen E. It just has a high initial cost because of low orders, follow on orders wouldn't be expensive. And as far as cost goes, the Gripen E is cheaper to operate than even the F-16.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > swedish versus korean

              This explains why the FA50 outsells the gripen 1000:1...when it comes down to it and somebody has to actually spend their own dollars they will invariably go with koreans over anybody else

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gripen only became an option with the A-D blocks because of how cheap it was, their production line has been shut down for years already and there's no point in buying the E/F version since it's within the F-16V range.

      The only real problem with procuring Vipers is that their current queue is ridiculous IRL with many Yuro c**ts, Taiwan and other c**ts in multiple stages of manufacturing.

      Enter the FA-50, unless your c**t is associated with despots and rogue states like Iran, North Korea, China and Russia it's the most cost effective solution since the chances of your c**t going to war is close to zero. It's the new A-4 Skyhawk/F-5E Tiger.

      There's no point buying slavshit/Chinkshit in 2024, embrace freedom and democracy and acquire Lockheed Martin/KAI aircraft.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mitsubishi F-2 mogs it, hard

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it look like someone deformed an F18 into and F16?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    senegal didn't buy the L-39NG because lolnomoney and now they have money for more expensive FA-50? bit shady

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They cancelled some of their military spending because of the pandemic and because they took on loans. Turns out they can afford to pay the loans back so military spending is okay.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the hell do Africans maintain their aircraft, whether military or commercial? Do they hire foreign mechanics and engineers? There's no way in hell they would be able to do it themselves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Iraqi Air Force has owned FA-50(T-50IQ, but practically the same thing except that the Israeli radar has been replaced with AN/APG-63) since 2017, and they've outsourced maintenance and logistics support to KAI since 2022.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >rumors suggest the order could be for four FA-50s
    Wow it's literally nothing. I don't get why asiatics try to hype up the FA-50, it's literally just a trainer jet.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there really no other aircraft that can compete in its class?
    African foos should buy MiG!!

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