How exactly are the Russians supposed to cope with this?
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1546565537895006209
Anoter SMArt 155 kill
How exactly are the Russians supposed to cope with this?
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1546565537895006209
no proofs twitter actually exists
>no proofs twitter actually exists
Not sure if funny or vatnik.
Same system as the old U.S. "skeet" system, BLU109 maybe, right? There was a GREAT video animation of that based on one of the Iraq wars (I think 1991) where one drop blew up an entire Iraqi tank force. There are also some videos of real testing.
Basically, one "bomb", which is a canister full of stuff, gets dropped off a B-52, ejects five hovering submunitions, each of which expels four EFP sub-submunitions, all of which use computer vision sensors to find tank-shaped objects and blow the shit out of them.
A "gliding submunition" wouldn't move that slowly. You can see the white blob drift down and then suddenly explode. It's obviously a small chute.
>Parachute would be multiple times bigger than the submunition
It is, that's why you can see the parachute in the video. The submunition is a dot at that distance. An EFP big enough to take out a tank from the top doesn't have to be more than around eight inches across. See for example the NLAW, which is just under six inches.
How old are they? If they're around 28-32 years old, Ukraine was a wreck after the USSR imploded and there were a LOT of hungry kids with malnutrition (not to mention alcoholic mothers).
literally Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory footage from Supply Depot map
>Supply depot
Excuse me gentlesir, the correct term is medical storage.
Oh yes, very new, piping fresh, never been seen before. Only in use with the Budeswehr since 2000, the same year that France and Sweden took the similar BONUS round into service, and I'm sure there's more and probably older too.
When was it used in an actual conflict, smart-ass?
Some bonus rounds were used in Mali to blow up technicals.
Wouldn't a technical has the signature of a civilian car?
Or can they be easily be adapted depending on the opposing force?
The target profile can be selected beforehand IIRC.
It can either ignore civilian cars and focus on armored targets, or just frick up anything squre-ish that look like a vehicle.
How hard is it to update them in case the enemy adds things like cope cages?
>cope cages
No update required for those
>in case the enemy adds things like cope cages?
The cope cage doesn't magically shrink the tank to be smaller than a tank. These things are looking for something metal and rectangular shaped that is as large as a tank.
They're 1980s level technology. The software was paid for back then so it costs literally zero to make more copies of it today. As for the hardware, my Apple ][ cost the equivalent of $6000 in today's dollars. My Raspberry Pi Zero is roughly 1000X faster, has 2000X more memory, and costs $5.
I'm sure the IR and RADAR detectors have tripled in cost since then, but at least they don't have to be developed at today's engineering prices.
God I wish we had gone through with the BAT submunitions.
>Source
>troony mutt state-run website
Go back and another attempt
>Captcha GPSVAX
*rattles pill bottle*
Thanks, Jim
much obliged
They could hunt down Ukranian artillery vehicles with their air force. Ukraine's air force and long range SAM systems were all destroyed in the opening days, so it shouldn't be a problem. Right?
They can just ask the civilians to report the locations. They all support and want to join with Russia. They would be with Russia already if NATO wasn't using them as hostages. Also, something about an Oblat.
West provided them with new one like s 300
>Ukraine's air force and long range SAM systems were all destroyed in the opening days, so it shouldn't be a problem. Right?
lol, lmao even
Cope with what? Okrainians wasting smart projectiles on abandoned vehicles?
>we didn't want that tank anyways
lol
Russia have around 80000 t 34 they just gonna put a brick on exelrater and use as bait
The sad part is they don't. Russia has six T-34s. Not six million, not six thousand, not six hundred. Six. Half a dozen. They had to buy them from Laos.
Lol just search how many t32 were built and are right now in russia inventory
>using wunderwaffe on abandoned trash
Stupid as frick.
>calling something that began development in the late 1980s a wonder weapon
tbf the latest and greatest russian wonder weapons are reheated late 80s leftovers because Russia is a failed state LARPing in the ruins of a fallen empire
It better be a fricking wonder weapon after 40 years in development.
It became operational in 1998 and was in Finnish units in 2000.
BOBlack folk COPING
lmao, I wasn't paying much attention to SMArt 155 as a system at all but the amount of vatBlack person cope must mean it's actually a serious threat to them. One of the best ways to follow this stuff, their tears and cries that it's unimportant and does nothing are directly inversely proportional to how much it's fricking them up.
Excellent point well made. We now know the switchblades were trash, because there have been precisely zero seething about it
They're just used for artillery spotting
I can't tell who's trolling who ITT
Russia have 80,000 t 32 tanks they gonna put brick on exelarater and use them as bait
and drop them as kinetic bunker busters on holhol trenchs
Doesn't look like SMArt in the video, no parachute.
It's SADARM, they are obsolete and honestly not very good so perfect to give to ukrops
Where do you see the parachute man? It's probably some gliding sub ammunition.
It's the white dot.
Parachute would be multiple times bigger than the submunition and fall much slower or in a different pattern. This sub-munition is gliding rapidly.
You can't see the submunition at that distance and resolution. The white thing gliding rapidly is the parachute.
It could be Bofors BONUS, then. Doesn't have a parachute
Probably my favorite weapon system to see action
Could be just a different gen old was parachute newer has more of a pillow design
its fricking 80s as frick too
that the 2 submunitions
I want to go back bros...
I was gonna say it's like 90s video quality by thumbnail then I saw the title screen it's fricking 80s
Still better quality than modern Russian drones.
They are still living in cold war Soviet era
>latest in smart ammunition
Dude, I saw manufacturer adverts of exactly this in the 90's
PzH 2000 is from the 90s too and still the best SPH currently in service, so...
Russian cope with this by:
1)Denying it happened.
2)Having more bodies than you do shells.
3)Having no respect for the lives of Russians.
The last point is unironically true. The reason being that that the front line troops are mostly minorities, people no one cares about. The important demographic of Moscow and St. Petersburg (whites) are being left out of it so they're happy to shill the war online, only complaining about the "stupidity" of leadership.
The Russians are usually better with hiding their vehicles now, I wonder if this thing ran out of fuel, lost a track or something and was abandoned?
wemb
Looks like a smart 155.
It is
Parachute : SMArt
No parachute : BONUS
That's the only difference.
how does BONUS work then? How does it stay in the air long enough to look for a target?
It uses fins for stabilization, probably increases accuracy this way. As you can see SMArt descends very fast too even with a parachute.
computers are pretty fast
Check the upper left corner for part 2
that's the neat thing
they don't
Where's the second submunition?
cut off from the clip.
You can see the second parachute at 0:11 onwards, homing on the second vehicle, but the explosion was cut off.
I think that's the starting parachute and then the main one with the submunition invisible just below.
wait, why the frick did I name this 14 seconds, it at 11 seconds
Russia has over 100,000 tanks in the field right now there is no stopping them you are just wasting munitions trying they’re going to fork a Great Wall and drive shoulder to shoulder across Ukraine like a Stalin directed rumbling.
How many of those tanks are actually operational? SirGay and Boris have been selling anything not nailed down, you think any of them run?
that's awesome they should probably do that and end the war then
>SMArt 155
Very smart.
what if there is only one target in the area? Is the second submunition just wasted then?
Yes, they self destruct if they find no target.
I found a great article describing BONUS 155, written by a French artillery lieutenant colonel.
>En outre, les contraintes induites par l’utilisation de cette munition sur les théâtres d’opération sont limitées. En effet, elle ne traite que les chars ou les véhicules blindés, s’autodétruit ou s’autoneutralise à temps en cas de recherche infructueuse sur la zone des objectifs.
So after hitting the ground, meaning no target was found, it self destructs.
During trial, they managed to disable a dozen tanks only one artillery gun and a handful of shells, with no collateral damage to the civilian car put in the middle of the engagement zone. An artillery unit can virtually stop any armored push in a single salvo.
It also seems they're tweaked not to target vehicles smaller than tanks and APCs, so they can't target civilian cars.
>so they can't target civilian cars.
Time to bring out the Scoobie-van then
Probably a BONUS this time. SMArt 155 has a very bright orange parachute, color chosen to aid UXO disposal. Looks silver/white in the video which probably means BONUS.
No, BONUS has no chute.
https://www.nexter-group.fr/sites/default/files/fichiers-catalogue-produit/BONUS.pdf
>insensible to wind effect (no parachute)
Yeah, should have clarified that the silver color indicates that we only see the warhead and thus a BONUS.
Then again, potato quality video.
Doubtful, the French army released HD demonstration videos, you can't see the submunitions on them, then how could you on a 144p video full of artifacts?
It looks exactly like the previous video, a white dot homing fast on target, and it was confirmed to be SMArt 155 by Ukrainian military sources.
>Diameter : 138mm
If you can clearly see a 14 cm wide spinning object moving fast on a video of this quality, I'm calling UFOs.
It's possible they use bright orange chutes for testing while the normal ones are unpainted and white/grey.
One day you could use machine learning and an high definition camera to apply the same concept to Russian helmets as seen from above.
What is it about Ukrainians being raging manlets? I whole bunch of them moved into my commieblock here in poopoopeepeeland even before the invasion and one is shorter than the other. You'd imagine a breadbasket country to produce someone better fed.
stay 27.6 km away
35 km range in CAESARs.
Run, Vanya, we'll get you either way.
>https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1546565537895006209
It missed. It fricking missed.
Fricking G*rmoids can't do anything right.
Yes Polak, clearly germans fired this thing - if you shoot in the wrong direction like ukraBlack folk you miss, surprise.
>its a flying IED
I'm not even mad.
The US and UK were using more effective DPICM rounds back in the 1970's. They are now banned under the cluster munitions convention which is why this weapon only has two submunitions compared to the 50 or so submunitions in a 155mm DPICM round.
The cluster munitions ban led to the development of far more accurate and capable NLOS weapons to deal with armour - Brimstone being the most notable example.
>DPICM far more effective
Yeah, no.
50-60 over a wide area as opposed to 2 submunitions. MBT's only required 1-2 hits to be killed by DPICM
50-60 dumb bomblets vs 2 sensor fuzed projectiles that don't miss.
The only case figure where it will be more efficient is when you basically have pinpointed a parking lot full of vehicles.
For any normal concentration and spread of armor it will be more efficient.
>2 sensor fuzed projectiles that don't miss.
They literally have to be lucky enough to drift over the target lol
Those rounds can aim themselves anon.
No they can't, they just fire when they float over a target. The parachutes offer no guidance.
You don't shoot DPICM is random areas either.
>No they can't, they just fire when they float over a target. The parachutes offer no guidance.
Except they do steer themselves to scan a circular area beneath them.
Nope. They descend in a spiral, uncontrolled pattern and detonate if they pass over something, they don't steer to targets, they cant seek anything out.
You don't normally shoot them in random areas.
The sensorshell rotates and is able to find a target inside an ever smaller getting circle, the lower it floats.
Anon pasted the Youtube video that explains in detail how it works, you rancid butter golem.
Tell that to the thousands of iraqi's that got shredded by steel rain.
>Fire and Forget
>It stays there searching for targets
Question A: isn't this basically a professional war-crime tech that will blast anyone driving by in a civilian car? Does it have some smart scanning, or does it only get deployed on open battle terrain?
Qustion B: how do you avoid friendly fire if you push back the enemy and enter the territory where you deployed a few of these? Do they have a kill-switch?
>isn't this basically a professional war-crime tech that will blast anyone driving by in a civilian car?
it discriminates between military vehicles and civilian ones.
>how do you avoid friendly fire if you push back the enemy and enter the territory where you deployed a few of these? Do they have a kill-switch?
It doesn't stay in the air for long, just the few seconds needed to scan the area and fire. If it lands without having been triggered it automatically deactivates.
it has a mm wave radar that can be programmed to only target certain signatures.
>Question A: isn't this basically a professional war-crime tech that will blast anyone driving by in a civilian car
Imagine what a volley of dumb artillery rounds will do to a civilian car, dumbfrick.
But vatsisters, we bought so many German politicians, why do they helped the dills?
W-we nuke them!
>How exactly are the Russians supposed to cope
more shilling on the internet in failed attempts to convince a single person that their military is competent
these are basically explosive computers. They must be expensive as frick
They might costs thousands or ten thousands per shot. Expensive compared to regular shells but not much compare to the targets they take out.
Once again in line in the modern world where some quantity massive quality beats massive quantity low quality
Die
I have a video of it blowing up a Russian tank but i don't know how to make this moronic PrepHole video format within the size limit.
https://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm
https://convertio.co/
compress.com/
Choose whatever you like from the services above.
i wanted to see the second attack
someone link the longer vid
Clusters were effective but they had an unacceptable risk of killing random brown people. So Obama got rid of them. Russian clusters are almost certainly even less safe but they also don't care about killing civilians -- as long as it's not enough to get them into serious hot water internationally.
SMArt and BONUS are PGMs for taking out vehicles. Clusters are for everything and are especially deadly against massed infantry and thin-skinned vehicles like APCs, trucks and most SPGs. Notably the PzH2k has an anti-cluster roof armor. But, SMArt is reliable; once they're in the air, you're probably dead. Once the crew sends it, they can pack up and move being relatively certain that whatever it was they shot at is going to die to in a couple of minutes.
Jesus Christ, how horrifying!
You really don't want to be a Vatnik in this war.
Imagine! Krab, Caesar, M777, PzH2000, MARS, HIMARS. Good god, they are all going to be ripped apart.
I seriously think someone should not have invaded someone else. Not gonna call names. You know who you are.
In 2 months this weapon will be forgotten, just like javelin and m777
What are you talking about, Javelin and M777 have earned their way into every book on military tactic. Every military is taking notes right now, the lessons learned will be useful for decades.
The hell are you talking about?
2 months or so ago, every third thread on /k/, twitter and Reddit (one place, really) was about those weapons. Now, they are barely mentioned (if at all)
Lurk more then, homosexual
>2 months or so ago, every third thread on /k/, twitter and Reddit (one place, really) was about those weapons.
Ukraine didn't have HIMARS two months ago.
what is the western media trying to hide, and where can go to find out more about this mysterious disappearance??
so how does submunition moves? canards? little wings?
a lopsided parachute, it drifts in a corkscrew.
Watch the fricking video. It's not that hard!
Ze Zherman language triggers him.
That said I'm pretty sure I saw SMART/BONUS on Modern Marvels back in like 2005.
why do hohols always film their warcrimes?
Stop projecting.