AND THE TANKS WENT ON, AND THEY STROLLED ALONG WITH AN INDEPENDENT AIR

AND THE TANKS WENT ON, AND THEY STROLLED ALONG WITH AN INDEPENDENT AIR
AND THEIR GUNS BEGAN TO BLARE, AND THE HUNS BEGAN TO SWEAR
FOR THEY PULLED THE TREES UP BY THE ROOTS, AND THEY MADE THE HUNS LOOK LIKE GALOOTS
DID THE TANKS THAT BROKE THE RANKS OUT IN PICARDY.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please be true. Do it Britain!

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok 400 MBT tanks needed

    -100 Challenger 2s, retarded old and slow but good gun

    Looking at you German turds

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >retarded old and slow
      Slower in ideal conditions but it can do close to top speed over very poor terrain thanks to the hyrdogas suspension, so its battlefield mobility isn't too compromised. Latest operational standard includes a thermal imager for the RWS as well, which makes up in some way for the lack of a commander thermal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying we care THAT much about some slavic shithole fighting a war with some other slavic shithole
      >du bist dumb as fuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't your national energy plan fucked now? And because of "some slavic shithole fighting a war with some other slavic shithole"? How is your national security compromised because of idiots fighting each other?
        >du bist dumb as fuck

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Clearly you care looking at all the autistic spergs that pop up on here. Wel go first then, you open the 2a4 floodgates any blame can then be put on the UK and Germany can hide behind them...just like they are doing with the Marders and US. Simple really.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is totally not coordinated between allies to create a lot of political noise. Nothing to see here, move along.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just imagine Germany as the scared gay kid who won't do anything first.

              You ever used to jump the beck/creek/stream as a kid with your mates and there was always that one who darned jump and it seemed to take a fucking life time to talk him into it and multiple people had to go first....yeah that's the Germans, broken spirit. We need to help them guys.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My friend, go watch panzernerds videos and pay close attention. All of this stuff is coordinated and was planned months ago. There is a multi stage plan for equipping and training Ukrainians. The political side of things is just a show.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just saying, there are about 3200 of these things sitting in CONUS and pre-po stocks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing they'll be staying there.
        Imagine just giving retarded slavs a bunch of tanks so that chud gays online have something to cheer about.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine being so obsessed with mental ill fags that you have to talk about them in any conversation that's not even vaguely related to them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            from experience those types claim to hate gays then get really hurt and confused when you turn them down (they always ask you when lonely or drunk)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that's not even vaguely related to them.

            https://i.imgur.com/ap8ns5z.png

            from experience those types claim to hate gays then get really hurt and confused when you turn them down (they always ask you when lonely or drunk)

            >from experience those types claim to hate gays then get really hurt and confused when you turn them down (they always ask you when lonely or drunk)
            well that larp didn't last long. Lol, fagz.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i really don't care why you're so obsessed with mentally ill gays. the only possible explanation is that you are also a mentally ill fag

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound moody, maybe dial back the number of plastic bags that you mainline today. Fucking weirdo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nobody cares how obsessed you are with trannies. go back to

                [...]

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to r*ddit where a bunch of other fags will tell you that you're stunning and brave and totally pass

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i'm not that guy you retard. i'm a separate person. just for your information i've called the cops on two people for being violent after i told them the "oh what a fag" routine doesn't make me want to go to their place.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fags are moody and confused
                You don't say? Weird.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh no not at all i'm perfectly fine with guys flirting, even if they're a bit awkward with it. i'm talking about men being physically imposing, in one case literally calling me a gay, then demanding i come with them. like no, that won't work with women and you're retarded for trying it on dudes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretending like anybody who calls you a fag is trying to fuck you sounds like a fantastic coping mechanism

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                tell that to the dick pics anon, i wish they were just being assholes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It sounds like the queers are aggressive and rapey. Maybe you should take that up with your community at the next pride rally.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nope women have the same problem, it's just that you morons only listen to the issue of men being rapey when it's a man telling you it.

                still wouldn't fuck you even if you came out of the closet btw.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you should fuck off back to /tttt/, not even the most aggressive chasers like sassy gays like you, I can smell the estrogen coming through my screen

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                don't know what /tttt/ is, don't care, and i'm not trans either. unless you're implying closeted bisexual/gay men wanting to have a quickie is chasing or something?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do the castration fetishists try to dig on other people for having no sex? T for T is just chudcel bed death when two completely unlovable, unfuckable people finally settle for each other. Stones, glass houses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This sounds like a problem unique to the gays, but I wouldn't know since I don't listen to women because I'm not retarded.

                still wouldn't fuck you even if you came out of the closet btw.
                I'm good with not being infested with parasites, thanks though. Fucking weirdo.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are the hatches open?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sealed

          >Not understanding that a tank can shut it's main engine off
          Oof

          yes... yes anon, it can turn its engine off with an APU and still power everything quietly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >100 Challenger 2s, retarded old and slow but good gun
      >good gun
      Worse than every other western gun and the Russian D81 (supposedly).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And yet can penetrate every modern tank in the world at European battlefield ranges.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/wXDewIY.png

      AND THE TANKS WENT ON, AND THEY STROLLED ALONG WITH AN INDEPENDENT AIR
      AND THEIR GUNS BEGAN TO BLARE, AND THE HUNS BEGAN TO SWEAR
      FOR THEY PULLED THE TREES UP BY THE ROOTS, AND THEY MADE THE HUNS LOOK LIKE GALOOTS
      DID THE TANKS THAT BROKE THE RANKS OUT IN PICARDY.

      So the brits are going to give up half their active Challenger 2's to Ukraine?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are 227 active Challenger 2's with the remainder of the 400~ in long term storage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YOU RETARDS JUST BUY THE T-80UDs FROM PAKIS.
      THERE LIKE 320 OF THEM, MADE BY UKIES FOR PAKISTAN.
      32 OF THEM JUST GOT MOTHBALLED.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i'm guessing they are being mothballed in batches as the new VT-4s are delivered and training is finished. A delivery of 300 tanks is supposed to finish this year.
        So it wouldn't surprise me that they might get the chance to buy them back soon.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do they supply the crews or just the vehicle?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine has no more tank crewmen anymore, of course it would be Nato mercs there masked as "volunteers".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok ivan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Losing naval war against country with no navy
        >Losing air superiority to country with no air force
        >Now losing ground war against country with no army

        Russians are really prodigies at being pathetic losers huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think they were training tens of thousands of Ukies to do in Britain over the last 6 months?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's gotta be Abrams or Leopard 2, they're the only ones numerous enough to make the logistics burden worth it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leopards are broken. They won't work well in cold weather.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They won't work well in cold weather.
        Is that why Canada, Norway, Sweden and Finland use them in cold weater?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neither of these countries have harsh winters like Russia

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is bait, right?

            Northern Norway had the same conditions as Murmansk, but since the war is in Ukraine not Murmansk that doesnt really matter anyway

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Despite being unusually warm for this time of year, practically all of those locations are as cold or colder than most of Ukraine in the locations any Russian ground battle would happen

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well good thing they are going to Ukraine not Russia

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              they'll be in Russia eventually

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that pic
      I did my conscription service in that very tank (#122018) back in 2012

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based. did you guys give it a name or callsign?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dont want to dox myself if someone else from that unit is lurking, but yes we did. We named them after Metallica songs in my unit, and yes, we had one tank named "Sad but true"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leopards are the most logical option because they are easier to maintain logistically. An abrams has to be sent back to the U.S. or germany for maintenance. While the leopard can be sent to Poland or other nearby nations for maintenance work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >An abrams has to be sent back to the U.S. or germany for maintenance.
        Didn't one of them get penetrated with one of the drivers killed, tracks tossed, ammo gone off, etc and was repaired back at its base?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We are talking about Ukraine, whocj doesn't have a maintenance hub for western vehicles.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And I'm talking about a tank that was killed in Afghanistan or Iraq.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yea, they already set up a repair hub at that point. Depending on how bad the damage is, some tanks in iraq were sent back to the U.S. for further repairs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine has maintenance hubs in Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jesus leopards are fearsome

      shame they break down often and get penetrated even more

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like your mom.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Got his ass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We didnt have much in the way of maintenance issues when I worked on them. Are you sure your unit isnt just trash at maintaining them?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they're the only ones numerous enough to make the logistics burden worth it
      Couldn't the Anglos stationed in the Baltics help out there?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Since when is continental Euro logistics difficult? Preposition spares in Poland at a suitable location, truck them in then send them as needed within Ukraine. Shipping stuff is a long-solved problem and forward repair facilities are often fabbed from intermodal containers (not hard work, any local fab shop can do this quickly).

      Leopards are the most logical option because they are easier to maintain logistically. An abrams has to be sent back to the U.S. or germany for maintenance. While the leopard can be sent to Poland or other nearby nations for maintenance work.

      Nonsense. The US forward deployed recovery and repair equipment since ancient times. What do you imagine requires sending one to depot?

      Power pack removal, not hard in field conditions:

      BTW anything suitable could yank a power pack (big wreckers, cranes, rotating cranes) and fabbing those simple spreader bars if not handy can be done in an afternoon by any welder worth his salt. The power pack weighs less than 3K lbs which isn't much (turbines are light).

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Supplying them to Ukraine would be quite the challenge if you get the joke.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NOOOO WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?
    WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING UKRAINE TO REDDEM THEM TANKS? YOU STILL HAVEN'T PAID US FOR CHURCHILL'S FAMINES

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >giving ukies a rifled gun and tanks where only 400 were ever made
    what a truly awful idea

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is about trailblazing, you dip.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then get them jets or something. a challenger 2 simply isn't worth the logistical burden as others have claimed. Or just send them Warriors

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Challenger 2 has no more logistical burden than 10 Leopards, it certainly has less than 10 Abrams.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It really doesn't. You guys are massively overstating the problem, the engine on the Abrams is easier to service than most other designs on the market, and it'll run on diesel just like a Leo

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >engine less reliable than a Leo or M1
              >fewer parts manufacturers for Challenger 2 than either Leo or M1
              >smaller knowledge base due to fewer users than either Leo or M1
              >ammo
              you're out of your mind if you think the chally 2 is somehow less of a logistical burden than either of them

              You have no fucking idea how much maintenance a gas turbine has.

              Ukraine operates no western tanks, if it gets 10 Challenger or 10 or something else it still has to set up new ammunition supply (which in reality it will be given for free in addition to the dedicated logistics vehicles).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're a gigantic fucking retard, one of the pros in favor of the turbine is DECREASED time to service

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're the retarded one, no one, LITERALLY NO ONE, apart from you says turbines are easier to maintain or have a smaller logistics chain than regular engines. Which is why almost all of Russia's turbine engined tanks have been sitting at home.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                aight buddy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just put in a whole new engine
                >thinks this is reducing the logistics issues

                Turbines were more reliable than diesel engines of the 1970's, this is now no longer true.

                I mean you're burning almost as much fuel sitting at idle as you are are full speed ffs lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Americans finally added an APU on the third version of their tank so it can't possibly be a problem lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >third version
                moron, they've been on the tanks since the 1990s, they added an under armor kit for the SEPv3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moron, they've been on the tanks since the 1990s

                Yeah, M1A2 is the third version, and it's not the version that would be given to Ukraine. It also doesn't change the fact that the engine at idle consumes almost as much fuel as at full speed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >picture is of an m1a1, not an m1a2
                > It also doesn't change the fact that the engine at idle consumes almost as much fuel as at full speed.
                yes retard, that's EXACTLY what an APU fixes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not understanding that a tank can shut it's main engine off
                Oof

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It also doesn't change the fact that the engine at idle consumes almost as much fuel as at full speed.
                Correct, it doesnt. It removes it from beeing an issue tho.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                APUs have existed on Abrams since GW1 anon. And many other armored vehicles use them too, even if they have diesel engines.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Abrams has had an APU since the 90s
                M1A2 and M1A1AIM/SA have an external 6kw APU on the bustle rack
                M1A2SEP replaced the rear left sponson fuel tank with a 6kw APU
                M1A2SEPv2 replaced the APU with a battery pack
                M1A2SEPv3 replaced that with a 10kw APU

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Neat!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Abrams has had an APU since the 90s

                Yeah, in the third version (M1A2) which arrived in 1990.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LITERALLY an M1A1 in this picture retard, see how there's no CITV and there's no flex mount for the 50 cal?

                https://i.imgur.com/i5N5tJb.jpg

                >third version
                moron, they've been on the tanks since the 1990s, they added an under armor kit for the SEPv3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A temporary add on box isn't a permanent solution. keep crying.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                (denied)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                APU properly designed (as fitted to hundreds of thousands of 18-wheelers etc) are really designed as an add-on for easy service and swapout though integrated in truck manufacture. Burying the things into a design is shit for maintenance. A truck-style APU is quite capable of charging tank or other heavy equipment systems and easily hung outside an AFV where desired.

                APU weren't exotic, ever. They're just small gensets with or without accessories like HVAC and rated for continuous duty. Smart armed forces would retrofit them to all trucks and tracks to save fuckloads of fuel. Good thing the vatniks were not that smart as it would enable easy cold weather engine start (APU can also share cooling systems or for greater isolation be used with liquid/liquid heat exchangers).

                I lurk for affordable used APU but they're promptly gobbled up when trucks are parted out. They'd be perfect for camper use.

                Ugly used unit because the pics show the small size of the unit and subcomponents:

                https://www.ebay.com/itm/364103504648?hash=item54c6429308:g:2usAAOSwqTxfhI20&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoCKMJbA7z9%2FGTDcgUMtwvtf5K3HDVajXzKXPvN6kMpHeaRGfbjIa3r5QI%2Fz0YQjXoLV8YzyqQ%2BwymmiU8cZ20pi9V%2FFpb1KFOkV0zrQtScC8kXwwbSM81jqNKHBFaFnUaiHIs0FU%2B1EQ4uSuLT2f6CE1ANTrJuQ%2FHisTjgXlzxLGPhyDPcsT8mOEk19LJ5iZDvNTcHRT5lJODBhHgiDFGSY%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6i1uPqyYQ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh fuel
                >ignores that nobody makes parts for challenger 2 anymore in quantity
                >ignores how it has no parts commonality that even leo 2 and m1 share
                >ignores ammo when nobody in bongistan even makes 120mm rifled ammo anymore
                absolute smoothbrain

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ignores that nobody makes parts for challenger 2 anymore in quantity
                The UK produces all consumable Challenger 2 parts still and has large war stocks.

                >ignores how it has no parts commonality that even leo 2 and m1 share
                Leo and Abrams don't share parts

                ammo when nobody in bongistan even makes 120mm rifled ammo anymore
                Completely wrong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The UK produces all consumable Challenger 2 parts still and has large war stocks.
                >they totally have lots of parts available, and because this one guy in a shop makes replacement parts every few months it's totally in production!
                why do bongoloids always cherrypick how they want to respond?

                >Leo and Abrams don't share parts
                Completely wrong.

                >Completely wrong
                Yes, you are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Name the parts Challenger needs that aren't in production. Because the engines and suspension parts are still being made. Both are involved in Challenger 3 lol.

                Leo and Abrams do no share consumable parts. The guns aren't even swapable.

                BAE produce all the UK's 120mm amunition in the UK. https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/product/120mm-tank-ammunition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know why you continue to triple down on being wrong while also ignoring everything else that proves you wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you unable to back up your point?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not here to educate you, and you still haven't even addressed anything initially said. You're clearly not arguing in good faith so I don't have any compulsion to do otherwise.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                Are Horstman and Perkins still in business and still producing parts, yes or no?

                Are the both involved in Challenger 3, yes or no?

                Have they both been providing both spares and incremental updates to Challenger during it's lifetime yes or no?

                So lets go back to your claim "nobody makes parts for challenger 2 anymore in quantity" seems like thats trash?

                >I don't know why you continue to triple down on being wrong

                Looks like that's you hun. Please consider yourself BTFO.

                and then pic, please apologise for wasting our time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Britain isn't Germany anon, the stuff they have is maintained armed and ready to go at the drop of the hat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fewer than 150 in service
                >cannibalizing parts from units in storage
                >ready to go at the drop of a hat
                anon..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                220 in service, 200 in storage. 150 to be upgraded to challenger 3 with the remainder stored as Challenger 2.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                227 in service
                75 in deep storage
                Presumably the remaining 80 or so tank are either destroyed (at least 2) or empty hulks that would need quite a bit of work to reactivate as they have been stripped for spare parts (The Challenger 2 tank in the Chieftain's video is an example of this where the gunners sight had been removed)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Presumably the remaining 80 or so tank are either destroyed (at least 2)
                Just the one destroyed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, two.
                One in Iraq by friendly fire.
                One in Castlemartin where the tank suffered an uncontained failure of the breach

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The castlemartin tank wasn't destroyed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you seen the internal pictures of the tank in the report? It's fucked. Never mind that the properties of the steel get altered negatively when exposed to something as hot as an ammunition fire

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I have actually, it shows how good the ammunition storage bin is and how it didn't yet the front of the tank off and the turret into orbit...yano like a Leopard would.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fresh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The rest of the tank is fucked. It's unusable. The ammunition bins did their job but that doesn't stop the fact the fire destroyed everything else

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta but explain this to me, the ammo rack in the hull of the chally is surrounded by a water-like jacket, right? If the ammo bins worked correctly, the problem was the uncontained breech explosion, right? Or was some other ammo in the vehicle set off?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Challenger 2 hasn't got wet ammo racks. It has armoured charge bins of walls 10-25mm thick steel which are dry. Wet ammo racks were removed in Challenger 1 Mk 3 after a BDA assessment of damaged Chieftain's held in Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war suggested improvements to the ammo stowage. The Haynes books on Cr1 and 2 have good info on this

                There were a number of issues.
                First a critical part of the breech had been removed for maintenance by the old crew (the Bolt Vent Axial [BVA]. The tank should not have been on the range. The tank also had the loading tray removed which the new crew should have taken as an alarm bell that something was missing
                This was not communicated adequately and the new crew didn't check the breach for the missing BVA. The loading tray was fitted, which would mean the missing BVA wouldn't be able to be seen.
                What excacerbated the issue is that the crew had propellent charges that weren't in their charge bins. This actually seems to be a bit of cowboy behaviour (as noted in the report) and you can see in this video

                ?t=92
                that the HESH charges are stowed loosely in the projectile racks, not the charge bins. The charges that were in their correct stowage were protected and did not go off
                So tl;dr it's a mix of breach explosion causing an ammunition fire from improperly stowed ammunition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that sounds kinda thin compared to the 38mm ammo rack walls on the Abrams and Leo2, no?
                anyway thanks for the explanation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Challenger 2 hasn't got wet ammo racks. It has armoured charge bins of walls 10-25mm thick steel which are dry.

                The charge bins are wet storage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unless you got something that counters what is said in the Haynes book who was written by an officer former who served on Challenger 2, I won't believe you.
                The wet ammo stowage was replaced in Challenger 1 Mk 3.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                War thunder reddit isn't a source retard, just fucking look at them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did I say I used War Thunder as a source? No.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you did when you copied it word for word from the first google result, it's easy to spot a google kiddie. Have you even seen a CR2 let alone been in one?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are such a massive gay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Easy overhaul IRL. Not a K-kill

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro just overhaul it, don't mind the fact that the metal is fucked from the 1000C+ heat caused by the ammunition fire

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That pic should have been posted first. The closeups didn't look near that bad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's an Abrams, it's just an example of what fire does to a vehicle.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's an American Abrams mate, it's also in a desert...
                We don't have deserts in the UK nor Abrams

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We don't have deserts in the UK

                We have one actually, there is a patch of official desert in Dungeness, i have no idea what the qualification criteria are but it meets them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bro just
                The turret was on fire for a minute or so. The Gunners phone stored in the ration box still worked it wasn't damaged . Don't "blow" this out of proportion anon.
                It wasn't the entire ammunition set, that was protected by the bins just the 4 propellant charges on the floor.

                >what's the hold up bongland.

                As soon as there's another government fuck up or scandal it will happen I imagine.
                There's currently another MP expenses fiddle being reported on hence why they might have thrown the Challenger 2 info out as a distraction.

                CR1 is my favorite tank maybe the Chieftain, simpler times...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, there are 227 places in the UK ORBAT for tanks. That 227 is filled from the UK's pool of tanks. That pool includes 22 tanks for driver training

                (249 total)

                Of the renaming 150 or so, half that (75) are in long term storage and will be cannibalised for parts. The remaining 75 are part of a flexible pool of tanks that are not active but are still operational. If a unit goes to Canada for training it will use tanks that were previously inactive but based in Canada. The tanks they had in the UK will go to depots for maintenance and servicing. Then a other unit will turn up and hand their tanks to the UK depot and collect the recently serviced tanks. The Group in canada will come back, their Canada tanks go into storage and they pick up the now serviced tanks of someone else.

                This is how you spread wear and provide opportunity for the full ORBAT to deploy to war while STILL having some tanks in reserve for replacements.

                If battle casualties started mounting (or even just tensions started rising significantly) the deep storage tanks would start to be prepared to bring them up to operational status.

                When Challenger 3 arrives the UK will have 150 ish tanks of which around 100 would be in the ORBAT. (we're going from two armoured regiments to one)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are Horstman and Perkins still in business and still producing parts, yes or no?

                Are the both involved in Challenger 3, yes or no?

                Have they both been providing both spares and incremental updates to Challenger during it's lifetime yes or no?

                So lets go back to your claim "nobody makes parts for challenger 2 anymore in quantity" seems like thats trash?

                >I don't know why you continue to triple down on being wrong

                Looks like that's you hun. Please consider yourself BTFO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The cope on this cunt lmao what shit hole are you from, respect your superiors peasant

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this easily removable power pack with minimal moving parts and high maintainability
                Yeah/10

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You have no fucking idea how much maintenance a gas turbine has.
                clearly you do not

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >engine less reliable than a Leo or M1
            >fewer parts manufacturers for Challenger 2 than either Leo or M1
            >smaller knowledge base due to fewer users than either Leo or M1
            >ammo
            you're out of your mind if you think the chally 2 is somehow less of a logistical burden than either of them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Or just send them Warriors
          Clips.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post a Bradley taking several volleys of RPGs to the front and sides and driving away under its own power with no crew fatalities.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              a Bradley with a BRAT kit could take hits from non-tandem RPGs, just saying

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think we saw Bradleys in Iraq take the same punishment as Warrior, though. In Op Granby a Warrior was hit by friendly fire HESH round from a Challenger and all the crew survived (although obviously not in a good way).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a Bradley with a BRAT kit
                What about a Bradley with a BLYAT kit?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >BLYAT kit?
                Now we talking!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Haha that looks sick would be better in dark green though.

                Yhe it's more of an initiative for Germans due Sholtz is a coward who dosent want to be responsible for escalating situacion we saw it with MLRS, air defences and light apc now it's up to the bongs to Kickstart the west MBT supply

                Trips of truth. Sad what the Germans have become really.

                https://i.imgur.com/4HSHhBS.jpg

                [...]
                [...]
                It was proposed I believe at one point for Britain to buy back the Chieftains from various Arab countries to supply to Ukraine like they did with some of the older APCs etc.

                Issue is that most Chieftains have a relatively shit multifuel engine.
                Most of the hatred for the tank came from the slow speeds and high breakdown rates of those engines.

                I would like to see the UK do a deal with Jordan to buy back all the Challenger 1s and send them they are so fucking kino bros. Jordan and the UK has a very good relationship what's the hold up bongland.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what's the hold up bongland.

                As soon as there's another government fuck up or scandal it will happen I imagine.
                There's currently another MP expenses fiddle being reported on hence why they might have thrown the Challenger 2 info out as a distraction.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >BLYAT kit
                >would be better in dark green though.
                Maybe pixelate the "blow job in bombed out building" image and apply it to the sides of the Bradley
                > Ivan, keep your head down

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn those Bradleys acting BRATty. Need HEAT correction

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              show any warriors doing so. actual rpgs, not that bullshit iraqis did were they were shooting ap rounds at everything

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >actual rpgs, not that bullshit iraqis did were they were shooting ap rounds at everything
                >these killed bradleys fine but it doesn't count when a Warrior tanked them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay, show me a bradley that was destroyed by og-7v, i'll wait.

                while you're at it you can find the warrior that survived so many rpg hits, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >while you're at it you can find the warrior that survived so many rpg hits, right?
                http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/people_beharry_johnson.html

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but here you go.
                >In May 2004, Beharry was driving an armored vehicle to help rescue a foot patrol that was caught in an ambush. The Warrior, an armored infantry fighting vehicle used by the UK military, had taken so many RPG hits that most of his crew were injured and he was unable to see using his periscope.
                https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-culture/soldier-rpg-head-victoria-cross/
                You can see 2 hits on the side, the majority were to the front.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >10
    >maybe
    >potentially
    >eventually
    Lol
    Sunak is gay and Brits have no right wing parties.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bongs were leading the way in support for the Ukies for a long time, being first to provide all number of forms of support. Only really being overshadowed when the US support got into gear.

      They don't have the stocks available to give Ukraine a large amount of vehicles, and it may not be the best thing to give to Ukraine considering the logistical & maintenance challenges. But by doing so they would once again show the rest of the west it is ok to do so. Hopefully leading to larger amounts of Leo's being provided.

      I am quite certain this is now going to happen. Bong politicians intentionality leak information to papers to test responses from domestic & foreign audiences. If they are doing that it suggests the planning is in the final stages.

      Although worries about the logistics & maintenance factors will of course remain. They won't just need to train crews but all the necessary support staff as well.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WE ARE NOT HUNS!!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WHILE BRITANNIA'S HUNS WITH THEIR GREAT BIG GUNS SAILED IN THROUGH THE FOGGY DEW

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All things considered it wouldn't be too surprising, helping Ukaine to stomp russturds into the ground is one way for brits to keep their status as world power at a relatively low cost. Besides that,Chally 2 is the most kino of modern MBTs, I would love to see it fighting in a real war.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bad idea. Only like 450 were built. Going to be hard to supply Ukraine 200 tanks from just Chally 2 stocks.
    We should send Leopard 2. About 3,500 built and a lot of parts and maintenance knowledge floating around Europe. Much easier to send several hundred of one tank type that way.
    Maybe our Bong friends can send more MRAPs or something. Those are useful troop carriers, medevac, company supply vehicles and can support a light infantry fight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think setting up one squadron is more of a notion to other countries to send tanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually we should send all models just to dab on Russia. But only Cold War models, since they are already better than anything Russia has in its arsenal. We should also force Ukraine to equip their soldiers with OD combat uniforms and all their propaganda flicks to have a grainy 80s look.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yhe it's more of an initiative for Germans due Sholtz is a coward who dosent want to be responsible for escalating situacion we saw it with MLRS, air defences and light apc now it's up to the bongs to Kickstart the west MBT supply

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    American tank fans are literally the least intelligent people on PrepHole

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >retards not seeing this for what it is.

    Its political, not practical. By sending a couple challengers the British break the taboo about tanks. Now the Germans, French, Americans and everyone else pretty much has to follow on.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Correct me if I'm wrong, this bitch gay hasn't threatened us with NOOKS after the Marder and Bradley announcements. Is he okay?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      xi and indiaman said "no no, no nuking, bad monke" so he shut up

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what happened with poles and Leo2?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >French with the first Western (light) tank announced.
    >Americans and Germans with IFVs that can haunt T-72s and T-90s.
    Now the British should be the first ones to provide such tanks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wheeled vehicles aren't tanks.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noob question: why not the Chieftain? There were nearly four times as many build. Also it would make sense to get rid of the old stuff first, like how the Poles sent most of their old Soviet stock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon, the Brits dumped theirs in 1995. There is nothing to bring back, same as the people who ask about the M60 tanks the US had or the M163 VADS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dang, I guess hoarding generations old tanks is a eastern euro thing. We just some T-55s to the Ukies.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Captcha: >.< ON GOD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These were converted to 105mm NATO. And the utility of old 105mm tanks that have been upgraded is underrated. Yeah, they aren't going to go 1-on-1 head to head with a newer MBT, but they are still useful for direct fire support and are effective when you employ proper tactics and combined arms. Greece, for example, has a fuckton of upgraded Leopard 1s, M60a, and M48s that would be very useful in Ukraine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What have Slovenians done?!
          I know, it's T-55, but it's just so fucking cute!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon, the Brits dumped theirs in 1995. There is nothing to bring back, same as the people who ask about the M60 tanks the US had or the M163 VADS

      https://i.imgur.com/7AGkHIW.jpg

      Dang, I guess hoarding generations old tanks is a eastern euro thing. We just some T-55s to the Ukies.

      It was proposed I believe at one point for Britain to buy back the Chieftains from various Arab countries to supply to Ukraine like they did with some of the older APCs etc.

      Issue is that most Chieftains have a relatively shit multifuel engine.
      Most of the hatred for the tank came from the slow speeds and high breakdown rates of those engines.

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