if you arent even prepped with food you arent gonna be prepped with enough equipment to take on heavily armed preppers in heavily advantageous positions. i get why you Black person-brains never think this through but still
>imagine planning to just eat stored food
Rationed properly, I have 18 months of stored food.
Its purpose is to get me through to a growing season no matter when the calamity hits.
It can also double as a hunker down solution and skip a grow season while the hordes are still starving.
No need to have a garden to give me away in the first 4 months. After about 6 months its cautious negotiations with new strangers in the area since pretty much most of the rest of the country that relied on supply lines will be dead.
>I am interested in solar panels but they are expensive. You need an array just to power basic appliances
Search for used panels. They're maybe 20% the price of a new panel and most run around 80% - 85% of their original capacity. You can get an entire array for the price of a few new panels.
I stacked a tonn of food when corona started in spring 2020.
Now i have a metric tonn of out of date canned food, sugar, rice and cereals in my apartment.
Its like ultimate Falout when npcs have to eat prehistoric food produced before collapse.
I saw a black man in Poland dancing to music from his headphones in public transport. What the frick /misc/? Who the frick behaves like that. Someone is going to stab him for acting happy in Poland.
Maybe like a month. I don't know how best to store water though. I can't get too crazy since I'm storing this at my mom's place right now. Any advice on storing water? I've read you need a gallon a day so I'm probably fricked either way in a SHTF situation but I can at least be prepared for "hard times"
Was it the UN or whoever that shipped these special straws to the turd world. The straws had some hardcore filter in them, one that you could use many times.
The idea was to just stick that straw into a dirty puddle and you had 99% clean water (some smaller viruses, microbes, still passed)
I remember seeing this video on YouTube about this, where a bloke with a microscope tested it, and the water indeed was drinkable.
Was it the UN or whoever that shipped these special straws to the turd world. The straws had some hardcore filter in them, one that you could use many times.
The idea was to just stick that straw into a dirty puddle and you had 99% clean water (some smaller viruses, microbes, still passed)
I remember seeing this video on YouTube about this, where a bloke with a microscope tested it, and the water indeed was drinkable.
Here's the link as well:. https://youtu.be/l4ido-pGUfE
>Lifestraw >The original LifeStraw personal water filter has an unlimited shelf life! Once used, the filter lasts up to 1,000 gallons (4,000 liters) - enough to last an individual for over 5 years!
One costs 30 euros. Consider my water needs prepped.
>LifeStraw Membrane Ultrafilters are capable of removing 99.999% (log 5) of viruses (including Rotavirus), 99.999999% (log 8) of bacteria (including E. coli and Salmonella), 99.999% (log 5) of parasites (Giardia and Cryptosporidium), and 99.999% (log 5) of microplastics.
Yeah
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Anonymous
>buy life straw >turns out it's chinese shit >you drink, you die
Good idea for the long term. I do have some brita filters but probably won't cut it. I'm kind of focusing on short term and scaling to longer and longer. Since I don't own my own property I wanna be conservative.
>I've read you need a gallon a day
Okay, but how much do you actually drink in a day?
Honestly I don't drink enough water but you need water for cooking a lot of things as well. 1 gallon a day may be conservative.
>Since I don't own my own property I wanna be conservative.
Backpacking water filters are light and relatively cheap. The’ll pump hundreds of gallons before the filter needs to be replaced so one or two extra filters will last you decades. Honestly water isn’t to difficult to gather if you’re creative. Take advantage of the rain.
A gallon a day is the bare minimum for drinking only, in ideal conditions (i.e. sitting around in A/C). Imagine how much you will sweat when you have to produce your own food. Your going to need water to cook and clean as well. A better estimate is 2.5-3 gallons a day.
You should be building rainwater catch systems. You can easily store 100 or more gallons just off the down spouts on an average home, with the benefit of getting more water for free when it rains.
Specified water storage containers that are flat and stackable exist. You can shove those under beds for another 40-50 gallons.
Life straws suck. Get a Sawyer purification system for when you have to travel, and a Berkey filtration system for home.
Stock up on bleach. A few drops per pint will make questionable water drinkable.
Famines are sustained, and the consequences last longer than a month.
Honestly if you're really into learning about this there are plenty of examples primarily from Europe in the last century or so, and Yemen today. The single most important thing you can actually do to ensure access to food and water is having a network of people one can rely on to at least some extent. Beyond that, it's knowing to GTFO before things get really bad.
I have about 5 packs of ramen saved up for the collapse. About all I need to last me while I make sure that it is indeed the collapse before I start killing, raping, and looting my neighbours.
There isn't going to be a global famine moron. We have more than enough food for the west, and even most of asia. We just don't have enough to sell to everyone. So some african will go hungry. Whoop dy fricking doo daa. At worst we will have to allocate a larger portion of the budget to the border fence and border guards. That's fine by me, maybe we'll defund more moronic social science uni programs, or gypsy aid.
I'll grow fat on the produce of preppers. Local Facebook groups are FULL of them telling you where they are, what they have, how many people they're prepping with (always the family, so less than 10 people).
Baby you best believe I'm like Santa when shit goes down. Checking that list twice and visiting preppers.
I'm debating on whether I should just plunder the food of other people who didn't help even try to prevent the WEF takeover. I've been as active publicly as possible while the preppers were listening to X47 and QTards trusting the plan while greedily stocking up food and keeping their job.
Why should preppers live if they didn't do shit to prevent the government from being taken over?
Years? After 6 months, you better start to learn how to grow and raise your own food. I have 20 chickens and 3 turkeys. I'm getting goats this year and will breed them. I have 2 greenhouses and several gardens. Hoarding food isn't the answer.
Frankly if collapse is coming soon then not much many of us can do except to stock food. I'm stocking food in case shit hits the fan in the short term since its a low cost high reward avenue.
I’d prefer to not kill anyone, but we don’t always get what we want.
We hike our properties regularly. We have multiple fallback locations. We built our bunkers and know how to defend our area. We take preparedness very seriously.
This sort of thing is why I'm not generally concerned for anyone in mostly rural areas of the midwest. Even those with a 20-30 min drive to the nearest town or city. Virtually every household is armed, and after one or two homes get fricked everyone will be on alert and in communication with each other.
>turn garden into allotment for end times >end times come >garden is looted by the end of the first week >get stabbed by barry from next door while trying to protect it
I have a plentiful supply of WEF supporting liberal long pigs to hunt, and eat.
Starting with my local democrat politicians.
A famine is just a sign from God to start killing your rulers for negligence or malice (it doesn't matter which it was when people are hungry). Crisis from heaven reveal the failures of the state. And how tasty Democrats can be when smoked.
My political stance on planned famines is >i just wanted to BBQ and I am going to BBQ
Make sure you planted your GARDE this spring, it’s too fricking late now you dum dums. And grow some tobacco, it’ll be extremely valuable in trade even if you don’t smoke or chew yourself. Pic related, some of my home grown.
In the US, you must have guns. People in the city will starve first and must leave the city to live. This is the real zombie apocalypse everyone jokes about. They're not dead yet, but they're going to die soon. Before they do, they're going to try to steal your supplies to live. Guns, armed friends and family, a defendable stronghold, roving patrols and a good ambush location will help weather the storm. Tribalism is key. Trust is life.
You don't need years of food. You need months of food to help ease into a barter economy built outside of the cities. If a SHTF scenario happens you will need to already be part of a community far from the main highways in the countryside outside of the urban areas. If you honestly think you can sit in your suburban house or downtown apartment for YEARS eating dried noodles, rice and beans you're a fricking idiot. If you're actually worried about a real collapse then you better move your ass out of the cities now.
Having years of food is easy and cheap.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
Stack beans and bullets, high and deep.
0kg, I dont care about fake and gay famines or fake and gay viruses or fake and gay wars.
FPBP
There will be no food shortage, at least not in the civilized world
Nothing, I will plunder until someone shoots me
At least it isn't suicide
So just stay out of the Bijlmer then.
same
a lot of preppers, for some reason, announce where their stashes are
simply put, i will murder them and take their stuff
if you arent even prepped with food you arent gonna be prepped with enough equipment to take on heavily armed preppers in heavily advantageous positions. i get why you Black person-brains never think this through but still
This is why not a single soul outside of my family knows I've got a stash or even firearms. Only morons advertise their valuables
This, I've done mild prepping but that's mainly a reward for whoever kills me first
A few months. Them I’m hunting jackasses like this for sport.
Why are your beans integrated? What kind of race mixing propaganda is this Schlomo?
There was only one dark been in there when he first made the jar.
The white ones refused to breed
im learning botany. imagine planning to just eat stored food
>imagine planning to just eat stored food
Rationed properly, I have 18 months of stored food.
Its purpose is to get me through to a growing season no matter when the calamity hits.
It can also double as a hunker down solution and skip a grow season while the hordes are still starving.
No need to have a garden to give me away in the first 4 months. After about 6 months its cautious negotiations with new strangers in the area since pretty much most of the rest of the country that relied on supply lines will be dead.
>im learning botany.
you should be out practicing gardening right now, imagine thinking reading botany book was gonna save you.
nothing but i know it should be at least some, and ideally a lot.
I am interested in solar panels but they are expensive. You need an array just to power basic appliances
Imagine being this dumb. Just use logic to arrange it, isn't thar hard dumb Americans
>I am interested in solar panels but they are expensive. You need an array just to power basic appliances
Search for used panels. They're maybe 20% the price of a new panel and most run around 80% - 85% of their original capacity. You can get an entire array for the price of a few new panels.
I only have about a month of food saved up…
I need to stock up.
We finally got through the covid stash about 8 months ago. Only been propping again for about a month.
Need to get more seeds...
Food preservation is a valuable skill to learn and practice, but don't pretend it'll get you through by itself.
Unironically rustling has increased in my region of late - granted it's probably just the higher functioning methheads for now.
im still eating the same 10kg bag of flour and beans i bought in 2015. best $12 i ever spent on 1500 days of food.
Flour as in not wheat flour? Isn't it fed to (cheap) animals?
Wheat flour certainly doesn't last more than year or maybe two if frozen. What is left is toxic substance full of bugs.
wheat flour lasts forever in the freezer. use a real, sealable container.
I live solely off of my great great grandfathers hardtack.
baking powder is what you need.
I stacked a tonn of food when corona started in spring 2020.
Now i have a metric tonn of out of date canned food, sugar, rice and cereals in my apartment.
Its like ultimate Falout when npcs have to eat prehistoric food produced before collapse.
Are you just tallying up 4chinz stockpile like a glowie dataminer homosexual hoping to become some madmax tier nig when shtf?
I saw a black man in Poland dancing to music from his headphones in public transport. What the frick /misc/? Who the frick behaves like that. Someone is going to stab him for acting happy in Poland.
1 year of rice, beans, cans
1 tear of mountain house
I'll come across the border to steal yours, Marek.
Maybe like a month. I don't know how best to store water though. I can't get too crazy since I'm storing this at my mom's place right now. Any advice on storing water? I've read you need a gallon a day so I'm probably fricked either way in a SHTF situation but I can at least be prepared for "hard times"
Buy purification systems or filters.
Those tablets too.
Saving water isn't as easy as collecting it
Was it the UN or whoever that shipped these special straws to the turd world. The straws had some hardcore filter in them, one that you could use many times.
The idea was to just stick that straw into a dirty puddle and you had 99% clean water (some smaller viruses, microbes, still passed)
I remember seeing this video on YouTube about this, where a bloke with a microscope tested it, and the water indeed was drinkable.
Here's the link as well:. https://youtu.be/l4ido-pGUfE
>Lifestraw
>The original LifeStraw personal water filter has an unlimited shelf life! Once used, the filter lasts up to 1,000 gallons (4,000 liters) - enough to last an individual for over 5 years!
One costs 30 euros. Consider my water needs prepped.
LifeStraw is very much underappreciated. Everyone who doesn't have one is NGMI.
>LifeStraw Membrane Ultrafilters are capable of removing 99.999% (log 5) of viruses (including Rotavirus), 99.999999% (log 8) of bacteria (including E. coli and Salmonella), 99.999% (log 5) of parasites (Giardia and Cryptosporidium), and 99.999% (log 5) of microplastics.
Yeah
>buy life straw
>turns out it's chinese shit
>you drink, you die
Alright you've convinced me. I'll pick up a couple and chuck it in my pantry.
kek wasnt Alex Jones shifting these by the pallet over a decade ago?
Was always tempted tbqh
Good idea for the long term. I do have some brita filters but probably won't cut it. I'm kind of focusing on short term and scaling to longer and longer. Since I don't own my own property I wanna be conservative.
Honestly I don't drink enough water but you need water for cooking a lot of things as well. 1 gallon a day may be conservative.
>Since I don't own my own property I wanna be conservative.
Backpacking water filters are light and relatively cheap. The’ll pump hundreds of gallons before the filter needs to be replaced so one or two extra filters will last you decades. Honestly water isn’t to difficult to gather if you’re creative. Take advantage of the rain.
>I've read you need a gallon a day
Okay, but how much do you actually drink in a day?
I'm 6'4, 200lbs, physically active & sweating all day, and I don't even go through a gallon
Tough luck for your survival situation. Manlets will inherit the earth.
A gallon a day is the bare minimum for drinking only, in ideal conditions (i.e. sitting around in A/C). Imagine how much you will sweat when you have to produce your own food. Your going to need water to cook and clean as well. A better estimate is 2.5-3 gallons a day.
You should be building rainwater catch systems. You can easily store 100 or more gallons just off the down spouts on an average home, with the benefit of getting more water for free when it rains.
Specified water storage containers that are flat and stackable exist. You can shove those under beds for another 40-50 gallons.
Life straws suck. Get a Sawyer purification system for when you have to travel, and a Berkey filtration system for home.
Stock up on bleach. A few drops per pint will make questionable water drinkable.
i have fat neighbors
About 2 years worth plus a make shift armory, a flowing well and a cattle heard.
WEF can suck my foreskin!
Post foreskin.
Imagine wanting to survive rather than going apeshit on politicians and their enablers
>All that beans
Polan confirmed autarchy from russian gas
At least a month of fat stored from dirty bulking. Fatties will rule during the famines anon.
Famines are sustained, and the consequences last longer than a month.
Honestly if you're really into learning about this there are plenty of examples primarily from Europe in the last century or so, and Yemen today. The single most important thing you can actually do to ensure access to food and water is having a network of people one can rely on to at least some extent. Beyond that, it's knowing to GTFO before things get really bad.
>Famines are sustained, and the consequences last longer than a month.
More excuse for me to eat more goyslop and tack on mass.
>beans
ngmi
I have about 5 packs of ramen saved up for the collapse. About all I need to last me while I make sure that it is indeed the collapse before I start killing, raping, and looting my neighbours.
I’ve got enough. Not really your business. I wonder how quickly the forests around me will be utterly devoid of deer, turkeys and rabbits.
0, I just kill cucks like you for it and/or steal it.
None, I live life on challenge mode
Should I stock up on MREs if I don’t know what to get?
I'm moving so I'm just going to throw out all my long term food, I wonder if I can donate any of it? Oh well, I don't really care
There isn't going to be a global famine moron. We have more than enough food for the west, and even most of asia. We just don't have enough to sell to everyone. So some african will go hungry. Whoop dy fricking doo daa. At worst we will have to allocate a larger portion of the budget to the border fence and border guards. That's fine by me, maybe we'll defund more moronic social science uni programs, or gypsy aid.
what about the fuel prices pushing trucking companies out of business?
I'll grow fat on the produce of preppers. Local Facebook groups are FULL of them telling you where they are, what they have, how many people they're prepping with (always the family, so less than 10 people).
Baby you best believe I'm like Santa when shit goes down. Checking that list twice and visiting preppers.
This. 99% of them have zero OPSEC and are easy targets.
I'm debating on whether I should just plunder the food of other people who didn't help even try to prevent the WEF takeover. I've been as active publicly as possible while the preppers were listening to X47 and QTards trusting the plan while greedily stocking up food and keeping their job.
Why should preppers live if they didn't do shit to prevent the government from being taken over?
Years? After 6 months, you better start to learn how to grow and raise your own food. I have 20 chickens and 3 turkeys. I'm getting goats this year and will breed them. I have 2 greenhouses and several gardens. Hoarding food isn't the answer.
Frankly if collapse is coming soon then not much many of us can do except to stock food. I'm stocking food in case shit hits the fan in the short term since its a low cost high reward avenue.
I have like 30 packs of ramen, I'll be alright
If the police get a tip that someone has more than their allowed ration of food they will come for you and seize it.
Two years of dry/canned goods. A garden. Chickens. And access to 20,000 acres of land to hunt.
Are you prepared to inflict serious bodily harm upon your neighbours once they show up to loot your stash? This is the real question here.
My neighbors all store food as well. We hunt and garden together. Any raiders will be dealt with using overlapping fields of fire.
You need a plan to kill everyone you meet, just in case.
I’d prefer to not kill anyone, but we don’t always get what we want.
We hike our properties regularly. We have multiple fallback locations. We built our bunkers and know how to defend our area. We take preparedness very seriously.
This sort of thing is why I'm not generally concerned for anyone in mostly rural areas of the midwest. Even those with a 20-30 min drive to the nearest town or city. Virtually every household is armed, and after one or two homes get fricked everyone will be on alert and in communication with each other.
>turn garden into allotment for end times
>end times come
>garden is looted by the end of the first week
>get stabbed by barry from next door while trying to protect it
At least Barry sounds sorted
My condolences anon.
do trap cummies count?
I have a plentiful supply of WEF supporting liberal long pigs to hunt, and eat.
Starting with my local democrat politicians.
A famine is just a sign from God to start killing your rulers for negligence or malice (it doesn't matter which it was when people are hungry). Crisis from heaven reveal the failures of the state. And how tasty Democrats can be when smoked.
My political stance on planned famines is
>i just wanted to BBQ and I am going to BBQ
dis homie eating beans
he has no trap gf he lacks a source of protein
did you take over königsberg yet?
We tapped it first
he was going to name it trapsylvania
Make sure you planted your GARDE this spring, it’s too fricking late now you dum dums. And grow some tobacco, it’ll be extremely valuable in trade even if you don’t smoke or chew yourself. Pic related, some of my home grown.
Garden, I have no idea why it came out as garde. Also stack some deenz.
i dont know how anyone can eat fish they smell so bad
If you don't like fish you are probably gae
how can i be gae when i love traps?
i will when im ruler of romania
I don't have any food stored but I do have a gun with lots of ammo which means I could quite easily become a local warlord here in the UK
Reported for violent posts to a right wing forum. The fact that you’re a JTRIG Black person makes it even worse, soldier.
Paki
I know, most of Britistan is now. I can smell the goat curry on you.
Paki.
why do you think I'm surrounded by people?
The jar man of /misc/. I saw your thread the other day
none ill just take yours
In the US, you must have guns. People in the city will starve first and must leave the city to live. This is the real zombie apocalypse everyone jokes about. They're not dead yet, but they're going to die soon. Before they do, they're going to try to steal your supplies to live. Guns, armed friends and family, a defendable stronghold, roving patrols and a good ambush location will help weather the storm. Tribalism is key. Trust is life.
You don't need years of food. You need months of food to help ease into a barter economy built outside of the cities. If a SHTF scenario happens you will need to already be part of a community far from the main highways in the countryside outside of the urban areas. If you honestly think you can sit in your suburban house or downtown apartment for YEARS eating dried noodles, rice and beans you're a fricking idiot. If you're actually worried about a real collapse then you better move your ass out of the cities now.
I agree that months is best. I can't see too many scenarios living in the city where you need that much food.
Literally none. I'll have to become a raider.
>years
That picture has beans for maybe 2 months. I hope you got something else to live off of.
you have a trap gf to live off of right fellow roman?
Having years of food is easy and cheap.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
Stack beans and bullets, high and deep.
I'm shrill waiting on them to ship my flour