Something called the Montreux Convention, it's why Russia doesn't classify any of its carriers as "Aircraft Carriers" but instead as "Aviation Cruisers" to skirt the rules
Something called the Montreux Convention, it's why Russia doesn't classify any of its carriers as "Aircraft Carriers" but instead as "Aviation Cruisers" to skirt the rules
Ships belonging to Black Sea nations that are registered to Black Sea ports/bases can return through the Bosporus into their bases. That's part of the Montreux Convention.
Turkey simply asked Russia not to and Russia has so far obliged.
I've always had 3 questions regarding museum ships >How hard would it be to reactivate them? >What on earth would bring us to that point? >Would they be of any use?
>how hard would it be to reactivate them
depends on the bote, some just need to have their main guns modified again just to fire, others will need a shit load of maint >what would bring us to that point
only scenario I could see is if the navy lost a shitload of botes in a very small amount of time and the next batch won't be ready yet, that being said this is still unlikely for the next reason >would they be of any use
again depends but for most they would need some serious retrofitting to be useful in a modern day context, especially the BBs since as of now they are pretty much the entire idea behind BBs is practically obsolete
Best chance will be if you give a FAT donation to the new jersey when it next goes into dry dock in a few years. They might let you on board for the tow if you throw enough money at them.
1. More expensive and worse than building a new ship. You want a ship built around its core components, not one that you have to tear apart to replace everything.
2. morons in charge
3. No, See point 1
Only reason realistically would be to reactivate one with a reserve crew solely to do CQ for aviators, pulling a fleet boat out of rotation for nuggets to pop their boat cherry is actually a bigass problem in naval aviation since the Lex retired, and getting worse and worse. You could reactivate one for CQ in Pensacola Bay etc a lot easier than getting one fully battle ready, just needs to be able to sail like a mile and turn into the wind.
I could perhaps see a use case where if we have such overwhelming naval and air defense that they wouldn't be destroyed immediately, they could be used as coastal bombardment or mobile coastal artillery?
>americans really think they're conquering warriors, not homosexual worshipping bureaucrats that got lucky when Europe destroyed itself in two world wars
>shitskin who won’t name his country really thinks his opinion matters, when he probably risks getting murdered every night he comes home from his Chinese lathe factory job
Hmm, interesting point, Joao Xi-Kai-Muhammad-Borzoistanislav
You Americ**ts have carriers so we in Europe can have public healthcare, public transport, a social safety net, gun control, free college, infrastructure and parks and generally a based society. Thanks. Send some more Bradleys to Ukraine.
No one is waiting months for surgery unless it's minor, and also everyone is free to pay for it themselves like you Ameridiots. Yet you frickers pay more in healthcare than we do for service which when called Black person tier is insulting to Black folk.
You know how much an ambulance here costs? 10 bucks. A doctor's visit? Nada. So frick off and pay thousands so you can pretend you're free for socialism while anyone not moronic will tell you they'd rather not have to pay 7 fricking grand for the same service we get for free.
>send more Bradleys
Uhh, okay? I mean, money isn’t even really a huge issue for most people here in the US nowadays lmao. Even I drive around in a 2019 BMW M4, and I make like $23 an hour. Unless you’re brown, of course, because you can’t manage your money.
i've hatred pretty much everything this country has stood for since i've been alive. really since my parents have been alive. i fricking hate this country.
I'd rather leech since they're making that easier and I can try and make more people miserable. You can always try to make me leave. I wouldn't mind killing some of you homosexuals.
i've hatred pretty much everything this country has stood for since i've been alive. really since my parents have been alive. i fricking hate this country.
These are unironically the most American posts ITT. American was born to be a global shit-disturber, it's inherent.
It's like Roosevelt's famous quote: "Speak softly and abracadabra my dick in your mouth frick homie"
>Black folk are America
Might as well say that asiatics are Russian. Oh, wait.. >in 2021, 19% of the Russian population comprised of ethnic minorities, mainly of Asiatic origin
So leave Black person, nobody forces you to stay. This isn’t R*ssland, you can just give us your citizenship and move. Oh, what’s that, don’t wanna give up all those cushy rights and liberties? Or those high paying jobs with insurance, or that DRINKABLE fricking tap water? So shut the frick up before I cave your face in.
There's legitimately not a single navy on Earth that even remotely compares to the USN and it's honestly kind of fricking shocking when you think about how wide the gap is.
Kek what, the US Navy undeniably helps to protect Canada, that doesn't mean that half of US naval power is owed to Canada. The absolute frick are you talking about you moron?
its not going to happen, delusional burgers thing it will be some epic call of duty game but it wont. You should act know when you have the chance, build communities, get married, have kids, become self sustainable. White westoid burgers think they will be like the taliban despite the taliban being a political party with its own army, collected taxes, provded security, helped govern
it will tho. we are going to lose the next war. after that, then the dollar really declines. then we get our version of weimar inflation. then you will all finally be ready. couldn't have risked your super duper Black person-tier dog shit jobs. don't set an example for your homosexual children. don't do anything. let them take fricking everything from you.
we'll be there eventually. probably another couple years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
just two more years bro!
>don't set an example for your homosexual children. don't do anything
you missed the whole part where i said form community and become self sufficient? if SHTF community and extended family becomes more important than how much guns you have
11 months ago
Anonymous
they did say war with china in 2025, right? europe doesn't want to help. our recruiting numbers are trash. we're going to get fricked up. that's the embarrassing lose they've been talking about us taking. it will be that one.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>they did say war with china in 2025, right
"they" say a lot of things, why would china risk a war with its largest tradeding parter, its all nothing and politicians posturing >we're going to get fricked up. that's the embarrassing lose they've been talking about us taking. it will be that one.
nothing will happen, but even if it does why dont you form community and bonds with your neighbours and have children in the mean time, the fight wont come to america
11 months ago
Anonymous
well anon, i can't see the future. i'd just assume we will get a war instead of an actual conflict between americans. i don't believe we will have anything like that. china has a lot of men they need to die. we will probably have our share.
i mean, if they can keep clown world going and nothing bad happens and everyone keeps playing along with it, alright, but it seems unlikely at this point
11 months ago
Anonymous
nothings going to happen, you will complain online and the posturing will be the same, instead of fixing your live and those around you and complaining like a woman all day
11 months ago
Anonymous
>fixing my life
huh? it doesn't need fixing. covid was actually pretty nice. i was finally able to leave the job i was putting off leaving thanks to having a backbone. i think god gave me my current job, which came with a very nice raise, for showing that i do have a spine. I bought 40k shares of $ET after the cut the dividend in 2020 at an average of ~$4. The dividend is all the way back. In fact, they keep increasing it, and will be doing so every quarter going forward. This means that I will get to stop working even earlier than I was already planning on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>didnt mention about starting a family >didnt mention about kids >didnt mention about community >his whole thing is about money
the absolute state of westoids, you still live in one of the comfiest, most secure nations in the world and you think its going to collapse
11 months ago
Anonymous
it's more of a disgust thing with the people that post here. don't worry, i won't do anything stupid. you aren't worth it. neither is america. if that changes at some point maybe, but like you said, i doubt it
i hope inflation is eating you homosexuals alive
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's more of a disgust thing with the people that post here. don't worry, i won't do anything stupid. you aren't worth it. neither is america. if that changes at some point maybe, but like you said, i doubt it
correct nothing will happen at all >i hope inflation is eating you homosexuals alive
no im living quite good, living at my wifes parents house with our three kids on a farm with her parents and grandparents
11 months ago
Anonymous
you probably have a picture of that farm like i have of my weapons right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah ofc, will i post it. no
11 months ago
Anonymous
right right lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
why do you keep ignoring my posts about having a family and children? family is more important than wealth. that is the reason why westoids like you suffer so much
11 months ago
Anonymous
First time I've ever seen a need for red flag laws tbh.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah and you probably took a selfie with your vaccine donut you c**t
Good on ya.
Really, what's to stop us from refurbishing a Kitty and sending it to Odessa?
Something called the Montreux Convention, it's why Russia doesn't classify any of its carriers as "Aircraft Carriers" but instead as "Aviation Cruisers" to skirt the rules
Ships belonging to Black Sea nations that are registered to Black Sea ports/bases can return through the Bosporus into their bases. That's part of the Montreux Convention.
Turkey simply asked Russia not to and Russia has so far obliged.
Russia doesn't really have a choice, Turkey could stomp them flat singlehandedly.
I've always had 3 questions regarding museum ships
>How hard would it be to reactivate them?
>What on earth would bring us to that point?
>Would they be of any use?
>how hard would it be to reactivate them
depends on the bote, some just need to have their main guns modified again just to fire, others will need a shit load of maint
>what would bring us to that point
only scenario I could see is if the navy lost a shitload of botes in a very small amount of time and the next batch won't be ready yet, that being said this is still unlikely for the next reason
>would they be of any use
again depends but for most they would need some serious retrofitting to be useful in a modern day context, especially the BBs since as of now they are pretty much the entire idea behind BBs is practically obsolete
I want to sail in an Iowa just once.
Best chance will be if you give a FAT donation to the new jersey when it next goes into dry dock in a few years. They might let you on board for the tow if you throw enough money at them.
Iowa with railguns
Did someone say railgun?
>botes
Dude there is no fricking way English is your first language if you can’t spell fricking BOATS right
They would probably just be brown waters.
1. More expensive and worse than building a new ship. You want a ship built around its core components, not one that you have to tear apart to replace everything.
2. morons in charge
3. No, See point 1
Only reason realistically would be to reactivate one with a reserve crew solely to do CQ for aviators, pulling a fleet boat out of rotation for nuggets to pop their boat cherry is actually a bigass problem in naval aviation since the Lex retired, and getting worse and worse. You could reactivate one for CQ in Pensacola Bay etc a lot easier than getting one fully battle ready, just needs to be able to sail like a mile and turn into the wind.
I could perhaps see a use case where if we have such overwhelming naval and air defense that they wouldn't be destroyed immediately, they could be used as coastal bombardment or mobile coastal artillery?
Dunno why but I genuinely dislike your country and it's people
Just can't tolerate you at all
post hand.
>just got a package of 24 LED lightbulbs from the city for free
Don't worry anon I'll send you some.
Scared of the dark? Incase Jamal breaks in and rapes your family?
jesus christ you're going hard on the shitposting
Black person
Good news: you don't have to come here.
Yeah but I will and there's nothing you can do about it so shut the frick up goblin
I don't know who you are or where you from, but I do hope you have a very nice and pleasant life and find prosperity shortly.
>t. American
Don’t care, still gonna genocide you homosexuals and rape your resources irdc anymore
>americans really think they're conquering warriors, not homosexual worshipping bureaucrats that got lucky when Europe destroyed itself in two world wars
>shitskin who won’t name his country really thinks his opinion matters, when he probably risks getting murdered every night he comes home from his Chinese lathe factory job
Hmm, interesting point, Joao Xi-Kai-Muhammad-Borzoistanislav
You Americ**ts have carriers so we in Europe can have public healthcare, public transport, a social safety net, gun control, free college, infrastructure and parks and generally a based society. Thanks. Send some more Bradleys to Ukraine.
Enjoy sitting next to Muhammed Jamal on public transport. Enjoy waiting months for surgery.
Why do you always say stuff like this when your country has more Black folk than south Africa
None of them live near me. Just avoid cities and America is fine.
No one is waiting months for surgery unless it's minor, and also everyone is free to pay for it themselves like you Ameridiots. Yet you frickers pay more in healthcare than we do for service which when called Black person tier is insulting to Black folk.
You know how much an ambulance here costs? 10 bucks. A doctor's visit? Nada. So frick off and pay thousands so you can pretend you're free for socialism while anyone not moronic will tell you they'd rather not have to pay 7 fricking grand for the same service we get for free.
>t. genetic filth burger who apparently routinely needs surgeries
>send more Bradleys
Uhh, okay? I mean, money isn’t even really a huge issue for most people here in the US nowadays lmao. Even I drive around in a 2019 BMW M4, and I make like $23 an hour. Unless you’re brown, of course, because you can’t manage your money.
Amen anon I'm proud to be an American, God bless the USA
i've hatred pretty much everything this country has stood for since i've been alive. really since my parents have been alive. i fricking hate this country.
Fricking leave then. We don't want you here.
Unironically we should sponsor a program that just ejects people like you.
I'd rather leech since they're making that easier and I can try and make more people miserable. You can always try to make me leave. I wouldn't mind killing some of you homosexuals.
These are unironically the most American posts ITT. American was born to be a global shit-disturber, it's inherent.
It's like Roosevelt's famous quote: "Speak softly and abracadabra my dick in your mouth frick homie"
>Black folk are America
Might as well say that asiatics are Russian. Oh, wait..
>in 2021, 19% of the Russian population comprised of ethnic minorities, mainly of Asiatic origin
where would you eject me to?
Anywhere in Africa.
Liberia, that was the point of it.
post guns
So leave Black person, nobody forces you to stay. This isn’t R*ssland, you can just give us your citizenship and move. Oh, what’s that, don’t wanna give up all those cushy rights and liberties? Or those high paying jobs with insurance, or that DRINKABLE fricking tap water? So shut the frick up before I cave your face in.
> America has more dead weight
There's legitimately not a single navy on Earth that even remotely compares to the USN and it's honestly kind of fricking shocking when you think about how wide the gap is.
>glowing_eyes_mahan.usa
yeah but half of that Navy is basically Canada's considering you guys exist to defend us, sort of like a Lycan to a Vampire
so really Canada and America are tied for the biggest Navys
Kek what, the US Navy undeniably helps to protect Canada, that doesn't mean that half of US naval power is owed to Canada. The absolute frick are you talking about you moron?
it's going to be pretty based watching them all get blown up
>America's air national guard is larger than most country's real air forces, and better-armed, too
with timestamp
>hates the only country that lets you have those weapons
>does nothing to change said that country or where he lives
>complains online
the absolute state of White westoids
let the country burn until cowbrains feel the need to act. i'll help then.
imagine the violence levels if we get there
its not going to happen, delusional burgers thing it will be some epic call of duty game but it wont. You should act know when you have the chance, build communities, get married, have kids, become self sustainable. White westoid burgers think they will be like the taliban despite the taliban being a political party with its own army, collected taxes, provded security, helped govern
it will tho. we are going to lose the next war. after that, then the dollar really declines. then we get our version of weimar inflation. then you will all finally be ready. couldn't have risked your super duper Black person-tier dog shit jobs. don't set an example for your homosexual children. don't do anything. let them take fricking everything from you.
we'll be there eventually. probably another couple years.
just two more years bro!
>don't set an example for your homosexual children. don't do anything
you missed the whole part where i said form community and become self sufficient? if SHTF community and extended family becomes more important than how much guns you have
they did say war with china in 2025, right? europe doesn't want to help. our recruiting numbers are trash. we're going to get fricked up. that's the embarrassing lose they've been talking about us taking. it will be that one.
>they did say war with china in 2025, right
"they" say a lot of things, why would china risk a war with its largest tradeding parter, its all nothing and politicians posturing
>we're going to get fricked up. that's the embarrassing lose they've been talking about us taking. it will be that one.
nothing will happen, but even if it does why dont you form community and bonds with your neighbours and have children in the mean time, the fight wont come to america
well anon, i can't see the future. i'd just assume we will get a war instead of an actual conflict between americans. i don't believe we will have anything like that. china has a lot of men they need to die. we will probably have our share.
i mean, if they can keep clown world going and nothing bad happens and everyone keeps playing along with it, alright, but it seems unlikely at this point
nothings going to happen, you will complain online and the posturing will be the same, instead of fixing your live and those around you and complaining like a woman all day
>fixing my life
huh? it doesn't need fixing. covid was actually pretty nice. i was finally able to leave the job i was putting off leaving thanks to having a backbone. i think god gave me my current job, which came with a very nice raise, for showing that i do have a spine. I bought 40k shares of $ET after the cut the dividend in 2020 at an average of ~$4. The dividend is all the way back. In fact, they keep increasing it, and will be doing so every quarter going forward. This means that I will get to stop working even earlier than I was already planning on.
>didnt mention about starting a family
>didnt mention about kids
>didnt mention about community
>his whole thing is about money
the absolute state of westoids, you still live in one of the comfiest, most secure nations in the world and you think its going to collapse
it's more of a disgust thing with the people that post here. don't worry, i won't do anything stupid. you aren't worth it. neither is america. if that changes at some point maybe, but like you said, i doubt it
i hope inflation is eating you homosexuals alive
>it's more of a disgust thing with the people that post here. don't worry, i won't do anything stupid. you aren't worth it. neither is america. if that changes at some point maybe, but like you said, i doubt it
correct nothing will happen at all
>i hope inflation is eating you homosexuals alive
no im living quite good, living at my wifes parents house with our three kids on a farm with her parents and grandparents
you probably have a picture of that farm like i have of my weapons right?
yeah ofc, will i post it. no
right right lmao
why do you keep ignoring my posts about having a family and children? family is more important than wealth. that is the reason why westoids like you suffer so much
First time I've ever seen a need for red flag laws tbh.
yeah and you probably took a selfie with your vaccine donut you c**t
Do you really think this homosexual is white, dude? Tell him to post a picture of his chin, get back to me lmao
Could a modernized Lexington be possible? This baby needs f-35s.
i hate foreigners