AKB-23

Upcoming bullpup lower conversion for the BRN-180 and the PSA JAKL

https://aandk.llc/akb-23-brn180/

$700, $785 with the SA-80 handguard.

I want.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/VMpqnfs.jpg

      Upcoming bullpup lower conversion for the BRN-180 and the PSA JAKL

      https://aandk.llc/akb-23-brn180/

      $700, $785 with the SA-80 handguard.

      I want.

      tbh it would look great as a pseudo l85a3 slap some fde with green furniture on it, it would look great id even pay extra for hk 416 iron sights to put them on this

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think of the BRN-180? I thought about getting one.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We have an L85 at home.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and it's AWESOME. Apparently they're leading full into the SA-80-alike angle and are making a comma-shaped charging handle to go on the BRN-180.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        LMAAAAO AT LEFTIES HORTHEY GONNA COPE

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Charging handle looks like it's ready to eat an ear.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      These cope clones are getting really embarrassing.

      Seriously. If they're going to clone it, at least go the way of Tommybuilt and make it as close to 1:1 as possible. Anything else is a cope.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They’re not cloning it, they’re making something vaguely of the same shape but better

        No one wants a real fricking L85.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why not? It's the best service rifle currently in service.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            So good the royal marines don’t use it and use an AR

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Special forces never use service rifles.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Unless it's an american service rifle, or a german made copy of an american one

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Royal Marines aren't special forces...

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Special forces never use service rifles.

              Royal Marines aren't special forces...

              You're both moronic. RM uses L85s and always has done. They're being replaced piecemeal because they're wearing out and nobody is going to make more of them.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >both
                We are three different anons.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're all moronic then.

                https://i.imgur.com/xV4SJQU.jpg

                >They're being replaced piecemeal because they're wearing out and nobody is going to make more of them.
                They should buy PSA's lol

                They can buy C8s through existing procurement channels. It would cost more to get PSAs.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They're being replaced piecemeal because they're wearing out and nobody is going to make more of them.
                They should buy PSA's lol

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do, not that I think it's a good rifle I just like owning and shooting as many guns as possible.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Option that costs no less than $4k each
        >or the one that costs less than $1.5k
        >inb4 hurr you're poor
        If you resort to the poor argument, post your most expensive gun so I can shit on you with mine

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        this, it looks repulsive. the only reason why it would have any significance is to be a clone of the L85, if it fails at that it fails at the only reason why it exists,

        They’re not cloning it, they’re making something vaguely of the same shape but better

        No one wants a real fricking L85.

        cope

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up gay no one cares, we get to spend like $750 - $1250 for a gun that was previously unobtainable. And if you don’t like it you just slap the upper back on a regular lower and go about your day.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >spending 750 on a shit rifle pretending to be a shittier rifle
            yeah and this turd doesn't come close to what it's larping as, so it's still unobtainable. stay mad and seethe more

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Right sorry, nothing can be good or fun except a Daniel Defense AR (TM) with a matching $2000 donation to Israel

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao thats some hard core projection there. literally the only reason why this turd was posted was because ZOMG ITZ A L85 AAAAAAAA, there are plenty of other bullpups on the market, but the only reason why this caught your eye was because of the L85 look, which it fails at. no matter how you justify it it's shit

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it looks like a gun that I would never buy if I had the chance. But i like collecting standard infantry rifles of countries. So I’ll buy one. And I’ll enjoy myself. And there’s nothing you can do about it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But i like collecting standard infantry rifles of countries
                then why the frick does this one tick the box? it's not an L85 and no it doesn't come close. you sound like a guy dating a troony and justifying because it kinda looks like a woman

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s close enough for me to have fun. And I’ll have fun

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't forget he needs to dilate before use annon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s more of a L85 then any British person will ever own

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's not the high bar or much of the flex you think it is

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’m just trying to guess what this shitter is. b***hing and moaning what other people do, sounds like a archetypical British loser and exactly the type we fricking shot

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                or it's a guy that doesn't get what so special about a pretend L85

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s more of a L85 then any person will ever own
                FTFY
                You literally can not buy one.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's a handful of L98A1 Cadet GP rifles in private hands in Britain, plus a very small number of the commerical production L85A1s held by some Section 5 certificate holders. As the L98A1 is essentially a RSAF Enfield built L85 without a gas system and given a straight pull mechanism, I'd say it counts more.

                That said, basically as a fun project, sure I can see the point. But you'd be better off doing a replica. Sure, as a rifle, this is better but people don't want these sort of guns because of their performance, they want to own rifles that they can't normally own.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people don't want these sort of guns because of their performance
                Do you have a single fact to back that up?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's already plenty of good bullpup rifles available on the American market, and even if you explicitly want an AR-18 action bullpup, there's several that already exist. No body who wants a rifle purely for function or target or sport or such would want explictly this or an L85 replica when there's already rifles out there that do the exact same thing. This is for aesthetic and collectors.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also I'm not saying it's a bad thing to have a rifle that appeals to that market, but if you are appealing to it, why not go all in?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The same reason the MOD is doing piecemeal replacements with AR pattern rifles as L85s get clapped out and NATO farts around with deciding to ditch 5.56, it's really fricking expensive to make these things unless you go all in with a big production run.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >other guns exist
                >therefore nobody will want this one unless it's an L85 clone
                yeah

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              This “shit rifle” then just becomes a bullpup that isn’t a Keltec, made by israelites, or made by the people who would then discontinue the rifle several years later (desert tech). Or made by people who donated for gun grabbers (Springfield)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                While using a system that’s proven to be excellent so far. It’ll be funny if PSA accidentally invents one of the best bullpups. The cherry on top will be if the .308 JAKL will get the same treatment and mog the desert tech. 5.56 bullpups are neat and all but .308 is the far wider usage of the platform. Either way, sooner or later all will have to submit to Total Palmetto Victory

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just to make it clear this is not the PSA bullpup, its am independent development and seemingly primarily for the BRN 180 but will work with the JAKL

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Palmetto has their own bullpup jakl project, it was a no brainer if they had a working buffer less AR upper, doesn’t look at cool or fleshed out

                Sucks ass that I’m in a AWB state that bans bullpups for just being a bullpup

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’m going to rape you to death you fricking homosexual

          Cope for what? Not having the shittiest service rifle ever designed? Cope for not wanting parts commonality with already commercially available platforms (BRN/JAKL)? Cope with not dropping 3 grand + on some Tommy built bullshit

          Clone these nuts

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            YWNBAL85

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              And I’m glad

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                we both know the only reason why you are gay for this thing is because its larping as a L85, frick off you are not fooling anyone

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                L85 looks cool, nothing else about it is, plus you don’t even need it to be L85 clone as the Jakl version looks like a bullpup scar and you don’t need to use the faux L85 handguards at all, it’ll be a free float mlok rail.

                Frick it, make it look like a Halo AR or the BR

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Halo BR skin would be very cool

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    These cope clones are getting really embarrassing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know UGH not enough gucci'd up AR's
      I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you people go one day without mentioning trannies out of nowhere

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          everyone laugh at this idiot.
          he does not understand.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no I do not understand you morons' obsession with shoehorning trannies into every discussion, which is ironically what the trannoids themselves do all the time.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no I do not understand you morons' obsession with shoehorning homosexuals into every discussion, which is ironically what the homos themselves do all the time.
              >"i-if you just stop acknowledging them and their behavior, they'll just go away!"
              >t. anon circa 1995

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                How does constantly bringing them up in totally unrelated threads help? What can you say that hasn't been said by a million other anons? This is literally the only website where it's impossible to go a day without some kind of mention of trannies, it's deranged obsessive behavior

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you could refer to

                https://i.imgur.com/VAQn6MS.jpg

                it'll save us both some time lol

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except it’ll be better than the real one since it’s a AR lower and BRN or Jakl upper

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everything has to be a cloooone
      >if it's not a clooooone it's worthless
      >if it's not a epic hypebeast gbrs forward observation superior defense noveske AR chambered in .300blk with a WHISPER PICKLE it's heckin useless
      >aaaaahhhhhh I'm cloooooning
      shut up you absolute Black person
      fun guns can exist, it having l85 parts on it is just to look vaguely like it

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >l85a4

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does it work with the upcoming .308 jakl?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, wrong lower size. If this works out I don’t see why they can’t just make a AR10 version

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a BRN180 and I would be concerned about that reciprocating charging handled moved back so close to the face.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just don't be wrong handed

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly I do not care if it's garbage
    it needs to be done

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yugo make me bust

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty neat looking for the price, that’s a big billet receiver.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They say some parts are nylon printed, like the magwell. I presume this isnt shit they're making on their Ender 3. Anyone have experience with parts made this way?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        looks like HP MJF, very close to injection molded quality and durable but high per part cost.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cool, thanks.

          All they've got to do is get a mock SA80 carry handle and front sight and we're set.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have to choose between owning a Scar At Home or an L85 At Home
    They ain't making this easy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      how is an yet another AR-18 clone a SCAR at Home?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        308 Jakl scratches off enough boxes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This isn't the PSA bullpup, that one is actually way uglier.

  11. 3 months ago
    A&K person

    A&K representative here if you have any questions.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      how long have you been gay?

      • 3 months ago
        A&K person

        4 u

        Checked
        When's it being released

        Shooting for batch in March

        How's the trigger? Does it attach to the uppers handguard in any way? Plans for future SA-80 parts? (I saw an early tester say the comma charging handle is planned)

        Hair heavier then milspec AR, good break and reset, leagues better then most bullpups. Have a light 3ish lb 2 stage as option.

        Rounded l85 “inspired” triggerguard and charging handle.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bizon when?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is he the same guy that's trying to reverse engineer the Bizon? I haven't seen an update in such a long time that I don't even recall his Instagram alias anymore.

            • 3 months ago
              A&K person

              No not chitin.

              What do you think of the BRN-180? I thought about getting one.

              It’s neat I like the guide rod system, after 50rd break-in no issues with any I’ve used.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                is that your preferred charging handle with this setup?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                any plans for something lefty friendly? this looks very cool ;_;

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It would have to be a left ejecting JAKL or BRN180, which dont exist. Maybe theres some other bufferless upper that has a left ejecting version? Sorry, anon ;_;

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you get a minute you know what would be nice?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Checked
      When's it being released

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How's the trigger? Does it attach to the uppers handguard in any way? Plans for future SA-80 parts? (I saw an early tester say the comma charging handle is planned)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      be honest did you make the thread?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope I'm just awestruck by the thing and really liked the GB faction in Project Reality

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm just awestruck - that I made this thread.

      • 3 months ago
        A&K person

        No actually, was pointed to it by a friend.

        Nope I'm just awestruck by the thing and really liked the GB faction in Project Reality

        Glad you’re interested

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you tell us who tongues your anus?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zasta?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Will it work with an FM-15 upper?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      couldn't you make the bottom of the lower a straight line from the stock to the grip with a printed piece or something? it's more or less the thing that sticks out the most on it

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My god, it’s so fricking stupid

    I’ll take two

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >american hillbillies design a better L85 in like three years than England could in 30

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > I would like something vaguely similar to the L85 look but use a off the shelf bufferless AR-15 style upper
    > NOOOOO you must buy some overpriced boutique bullshit that 1. Doesn’t exist 2. Clones a piece of shit

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >l85 is just a AR-180 in a bullpup chassis
    >faux l85 is just an AR-180 in a bullpup chassis

    I honestly don’t hate it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it is an inevitably. like everything turning to crabs. someone has to do it but the ar 180 will always bullpup.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the OAL? I want to see 16" with an 8.5" barrel.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it looks better than original L85

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Those mloc rails behind the handguard are perfect for little charms.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Letting homosexuals into the firearms community was a mistake

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not the firearms community anymore, it's 95% cod customisation homosexuals

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I'm sure kids' obsession with guntubers doesn't help either. Lots of tards who think they're experts because a talking head told them what to think about a gun

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then why did you come?

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like how the trigger guard looks for some reason tbh

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    L85 A1-3 was always aesthetic, this is cum worthy if I can actually buy one.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ugly

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    reddit spacing also bullpoops are gay hope your shit fails

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post guns

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neat

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    That is certainly one of the guns of all time.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >KAK makes this in the meantime
    Yeah but that'll blow the bayonet off.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      God I want that stupid bayonet

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not stupid if it works, and those things work.
        Hell I'm not even sold on the rifle but I want a few of those flash hiders so I can slap a bayonet on any free-float 5.56.

    • 3 months ago
      A&K person

      https://i.imgur.com/ua25MpK.jpg

      God I want that stupid bayonet

      True, I had one of those years ago

      Also I'm not saying it's a bad thing to have a rifle that appeals to that market, but if you are appealing to it, why not go all in?

      A perfect clone would be amazing but it’s not going to happen endless you dump a ton of capital in.

      I’ll buy one. I have always loved the appearance of the L85, and if this is what I have to resort to get one, so be it.

      King

      This is the only BRN-180 or derivative I’ve ever paid any attention to at all, but it does look very good on its own.

      [...]
      What’s the handguard pattern? Any chance of being able to slap an L85A3 rail on there?

      It’s custom, but I’m totally on board with making a clone 1913 rail that fits down the line.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's simultaneously too close and not close enough to satisfy my autism. I have to keep faith for the "real" one that someone is supposedly working on.

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ll buy one. I have always loved the appearance of the L85, and if this is what I have to resort to get one, so be it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even if it's not too close, it plain just looks good, better than most other conversions for sure. The handguard bridges the gap between the lower and upper and other versions without it look much worse.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the only BRN-180 or derivative I’ve ever paid any attention to at all, but it does look very good on its own.

        [...]

        What’s the handguard pattern? Any chance of being able to slap an L85A3 rail on there?

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