After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
elite puccia spetznas
Wasn’t this guy just a reporter?
Shouldn't have picked up the gun then. Not him, by the way, just a similar beard.
>reporter
>armed with a gun
are you really this fricking stupid?
no need to say more
Who cares? They'll still be inbred slavic morons hopeless addicted to vodka and potato and fricking their cousins. There is literally nothing more moronic on the whole planet than a slavic peasant, and no amount of combat experience will turn a slav into a human.
hopelessly*
You mean their mauled and battered mobiks? Their actual professional army was wrecked months ago.
And no, that will be Ukraine obviously. Same experience as Russia, but with actual victory and training and experience with both Soviet shit and Western materiel and doctrine.
>that will be Ukraine
The United States would curb stomp Ukraine in a war.
Slavs are incapable of winning any war without American lend-lease, unless they're fighting other drunken eastern european inbreds
Look its some brown moron trying to post like the humans!
see
STFU you ESL zigger queer. You were outed in the other thread as not knowing very common English idioms.
Post guns
I don't believe either of those are real.
ITS FAKE PASSORT POSTING MAN. HE'S BACK AND HE IS STILL A moron VATBlack person BROWNOID
Hmm, posts in the other thread "the view from his office" yet that's very clearly on a bed. Do you have a bed in your office?
Wrong guy, moron. I'm the one from Illinois, not Maine.
cope + seethe nogunz
yet you are a vatBlack person ball licker and definitely brown. Where did you buy the passport cover? You do realise sane adults don't photograph their actual passport with guns and post it because of butthurt on chans or were you absent for that glavset briefing note
post guns
I have never once posted guns to the demand of post guns and never will. The only thing you have convinced me off is that you a fraud for several reasons (all to do with the passport)
He does this for attention. It's why in every thread he posts a edgy opinion and then when people disagree with them he shouts "post gun" and then posts his own. If he can't get people to bite about Ukraine he'll do it in a thread about pirates ffs.
Not any of the anons who have so far responded to him. You should just ignore him.
I don't care if people disagree with me; I tell people to post guns when they accuse me of being a pajeet or a ruski, and it's curious how they never, ever do.
post guns, ESL
EU GDP growth is revised up to 1.0% in 2023 (from 0.8%) and 1.7% in 2024 (from 1.6%
https://economy-finance.ec.europa.eu/economic-forecast-and-surveys/economic-forecasts/spring-2023-economic-forecast-improved-outlook-amid-persistent-challenges_en
Europe by destroying its long term GDP growth
But the EU GDP is growing anyway. The Russian economy is doing so badly it does not even publish key economic data anymore, no one cares because no one invests there anyway now or even will for a generation at least.
yeah, that was my point. Russian economy is hurting way way worse than the European ever did. And for Europe it will only get better again and Russia as of right now seems to have no out on recovering.
>yeah, that was my point. Russian economy is hurting way way worse than the European ever did. And for Europe it will only get better again and Russia as of right now seems to have no out on recovering.
Russia economy is fully in the shitter and its number one priority for the glavet gang to stop the Russian public ever becoming aware of that,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-economy-is-starting-to-come-undone-431a2878
"Russia’s Economy Is Starting to Come Undone
Investment is down, labor is scarce, budget is squeezed. Oligarch: ‘There will be no money next year’"
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1176769042/russia-economy-brain-drain-oil-prices-flee-ukraine-invasion
"A "full-blown demographic crisis"
Even before the invasion, Russia was experiencing a labor shortage: Businesses and factories complained that they couldn't find the workers they needed.
"Now it's a full-blown demographic crisis," says Oleg Itskhoki, an economist at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Itskhoki says this poses a huge problem for Russia's economy: Without workers, many companies and businesses are having to scale back or even shut down entirely."
https://fortune.com/2023/03/30/putin-truth-american-journalist-evan-gershkovich-arrest-russia-economy-collapse-sonnenfeld/
"Early this morning, Putin’s hatchet men abducted and arrested Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich who had the courage to shine a spotlight just this week on how “Russia’s economy is starting to come undone,” closely tracking the findings of my team over the last few months on the implosion of the Russian economy, amidst reports that he is working on follow-up investigations of the Wagner Group and the Russian defense supply chain."
>https://fortune.com/2023/03/30/putin-truth-american-journalist-evan-gershkovich-arrest-russia-economy-collapse-sonnenfeld/
As Mr. Gershkovich uncovered, the myth of Putin’s resilient economy is nothing but a myth as the world economy no longer needs Russia and relegates it to backward isolation. Putin’s initial oil and gas windfalls have turned into dramatic budget deficits. Russia has lost most of its major gas markets thanks to the self-defeating gambit of withholding energy shipments from Europe. Meanwhile, the G7 oil price cap has seriously bit into oil profits as Putin finds out the hard way that it is always easier for consumers to replace unreliable commodity suppliers than it is for disreputable producers to find new markets.
Meanwhile, Putin is relying on lies and cannibalization to sustain his flailing economy, raiding corporate treasuries to the tune of trillions of rubles at a time, and drawing down his rainy-day reserves through unsustainable government spending. Combined with rising military costs, it is little wonder Russia ran a budget deficit exceeding 2% last year despite sky-high energy prices–and this year’s deficit is projected to be much worse amidst a massive exodus of talent, capital, and business, a collapse in trade, and plummeting domestic spending and production. Mr. Gershkovich was not exaggerating–or working for the CIA–when he wrote that “Russia’s economy is starting to come undone.” He was stating a fact.
No shit moron
Then his statement was false moron, kys.
Good thing we're their ally then.
You have to have survivors to have experience
There are more russians than ukrainians in the world
Yes, buried in the mud of Ukraine.
Also behind those defense line you don't look able to break
russians are currently exhausting the reserves meant to be filling gaps if ukraine were to break the line, and they're doing it without using their defensive constructions.
that's not really something to be proud of, i got suspicious as soon as i saw russians throwing a counteroffensive with tanks/ifv's and well equipped troops at every captured village.
either russians are giving out another gesture of good will by not using their defenses and attacking instead, or russians know something about their ability to man those defensive lines that you and i don't and are throwing everything they have to prevent ukraine even getting to the first line.
You mena "those defense line" that is steadily buckling?
What, you think I'm posting from a trench? lol.
And most of them dodged the draft
How many of them have combat experience from Ukraine, and of those that have, how many survive to share it?
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
1)There will be no Russia when this war ends
2)There will be no Russian army when this war ends
3)Experienced at what? Dying by incineration? Dying by being blown up? Dying by fragmentation or bullet? Dying by drowning? Dying by chorea? Dying by Freezing? Dying by hypothermia? Dying by bee sting? Experienced in what? Digging holes in the red forest in Chernobyl? Sitting in 40KM convoys? Experienced in being buried? If you need to know what its like to be dead do you trey and talk to them in a cemetery and learn from them? The entire pre war Russian invasion force is dead. Dead. Dead.
They'll be the most experienced in the world in dying
fun fact: If vatnigs are 10 on the "incompetent moron" scale, then every other slav (Polacks, Ukrops) is anywhere from an 8 to a 9.5. This war is a war between two groups of complete and utter morons, and no side will get a definitive, crushing victory like the fantasy you describe.
>then every other slav (Polacks, Ukrops) is anywhere from an 8 to a 9.5
False equivalence
No, that would be you that ranks that low
>ukrops
Normal people do not use that term. You've just shown yourself to not be an organic poster.
>normal people
I am not a normalhomosexual; correct. I am a /k/poster who has seen dumb vatnigs use that word to trigger ukrops over the past year, just like I've seen ukrops use the term "vatnig" to trigger dumb vatnigs. Before 2022, I barely knew anything about slavic people other than memes and propaganda, but now I know that I hate all of them.
it's hohol not ukrops and 2 it's not enough for both Russia and Ukraine to go up in hellfire and never be seen again, every board on this hellsite plagued with discussion over the war like /misc/ needs to go with them.
I've seen hohol and ukrops. I know both refer to Ukrainians, but I have no idea what they literally mean. Ukrops makes more sense to me because of "Ukr" like "Ukraine"
You live in america.
Is that supposed to be an insult?
I pity the day you get a bullet in the brain by Ivan.
>You live in america.
If he did that would not mean much there are plenty of Ziggers hiding in the united states and tankies as well as morons who want to get on their knees and suck Russian dick because a TV screen or youtube channel or even /misc/ told them to. But I'd say he's the vatBlack person fake passport poster back again.
You sound like a complete vatBlack person. Are you a vatBlack person? I think you are. Post fake passport
You trying to tell us you are a brown and outsourced vatBlack person and think you are on /misc/?
Used be 10 spammed threads about starting a civil war in the USA now there are 10 spammed threads about how Russia is winning in Ukraine. really makes you think. If you want to suck Russian dick with fake impartiality why don't you frick off to /cangen/ where they are still trapped in 2015 and balls deep in Russian sponsored extremist do a terror and fake vatBlack person shilled separatist bullshit.
You're completely wrong - the only problem with Central Europe was that the people there can't really agree on anything and waste their time and effort on petty squabbles while sandwiched by Germany and Russia. Putin unironically fixed that with his epic gamer move, so you'll probably get to see a new take on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which was actually pretty rich and powerful. Except this time it'll Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, and the Baltics. France is already doing the math and aligning itself with this bloc over Germany's head.
Eastern Europe*
Also, the problem is that they're nonwhite subhuman mongrels occupying land that should rightfully belong to Germany.
Remove Russia as a threat and this eastern euro bloc will fall apart in a day
pic related is the reason why they hate Russia and each other
Eastern Europeans for the most part do not hate each other, it is Serbs and Russians starting shit as always.
The only major conflict is between Hungarians and Romanians.
There is some animosity between Lithuanians and Polish, but that seems to have been healing, as well as Macedonians and Greeks but they also seem to have moved forward in their relations.
Everyone else has either neutral to positive relations with each other.
It is also extremely dishonest to say that Catholic/Protestant countries and Orthodox Russia have "small differences" between them, culturally or historically.
So you believe that Latvians are as smart, honest, and hard working as Polish people?
What does my personal opinion based on experience or stereotypes of two people that I may or may not have has to do with the practical reality that on national level there is actually minimal real animosity between Eastern Europeans, especially those that part of EU?
The original point was about hatred, now the question is being moved onto about stereotypes.
The differences Latvians and Polish have as nations can not be described under "small differences" to qualify for what is being described in that picture. That describes why people from Warsaw and Krakow might have conflict with one another, it is not applicable to most Eastern European countries when related to each other.
To most outsiders, Latvian and Polish culture are indistinguishable.
But to insiders, they are very distinguishable, and being an insider is what is necessary for
to work as an explanation, which it doesn't, as Latvians and Polish have positive relation on a international level.
If instead you meant to say Lithuanians and Polish, then there might be some of this narcissism referred into the picture at play, but even with the whole Vilnius affair, Poland and Lithuania have strengthened their relationship and seem to be moving past it.
If you are trying to imply that Latvians and Lithuanians are one in the same with minor differences, that is neither true nor would it matter as Latvia and Lithuania have very good relationship with each other.
The original post implied that Eastern Europeans hate each other because they are similar, when in reality most Eastern Europeans are indifferent at worst about each other and to say that all Eastern Europeans are the same could only be said by someone who thinks history started in 20th century.
As for Russia, to say Russia is disliked by Eastern Europe only because they are too similar could only be said by someone who knows nothing of history or current events.
European history is so fricking boring lmao.
>and then these inbred cousin frickers fought these other inbred cousin frickers, and so on and so forth for 1500 years
Latvians are Germans while Poles are Slavs
>So you believe that Latvians are as smart, honest, and hard working as Polish people?
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you asking if Latvians are not smart honest or hard working or if Polish are not? In either case, both are fine. The only trouble is that you have more chance of finding a Russian in Latvia, which naturally makes things worse.
>both side le bad
you zigger feral monkies never learn that the normal east euros are nothing like you, do you?
see
At this rate Russia only needs another 21900 APCs, tanks and artillery pieces to last a year, or 10950 to last six months.
>1)There will be no Russia when this war ends
>2)There will be no Russian army when this war ends
Not only is Russia going to exist after this war, its going to be in a much better position as a result of this war, by invading Ukraine, Russia has achieved 4 things
1) Made the US more powerful at an expense to China
2) Destabilized Europe by destroying its long term GDP growth
3) Decimated the young population of its ethnic minorities in unstable regions by sending them to the meat grinder
4)Annexed land containing millions of ethnic ortodox Russians and trillions of dollars worth of resources.
Only if they defeat any counter offensives and bleed Ukraine white. If Ukrainian troops march into Sevastopol there's a very high chance of Russia imploding. War veterans will march into Moscow and set up their own government.
While it is possible for Ukraine to win, you have to remember that so far, the West hasn't given Ukraine any meaningful assistance in achieving air superiority, and Ukraine needs air superiority to win this war without sacrificing its entire generation of men.
Ukraine is winning, and at the current rate will literally kill every last military-age male Russian alive before "sacrificing its entire generation of men".
>War veterans will march into Moscow and set up their own government.
Things that never happened. ESPECIALLY in Russian history.
even the most hardcore pro-russians blame Putin for fricking up the war effort, do you think he'll be able to stay in power if Russia loses crimea?
> do you think he'll be able to stay in power if Russia loses crimea?
Until old age takes him
Considering the fact that no one has shot this moron in the back still? All bets are off.
>War veterans will march into Moscow and set up their own government.
Alright calm down Heinlein
let me guess the US Republican party is going to save Putin and send Russia military aid and the 10950 Tanks APCs and artillery pieces it needs to last six months? No? OK then
You do realise that Russia has lost this war., will retain none of the territory it tried to steal in 2014 or 2022 and than many of its political and military leaders are facing court as war criminals? You may have missed the fact that Russia is now a third world irrelevance that the world viscerally despises that has destroyed itself politically, diplomatically militarily and economically in such a manner and to such a degree that it no longer has the option to continue existing.
Putin has actually already been arrested and executed in Guantanamo Bay. Zisters, it's over.
No, he will probably be suicided but it is pretty much inevitable that senior members of his military and autocracy will stand trial as war criminals.
Who's gonna bring them to justice and how? Pretty much anyone with guns in the country in complicit in the war.
The oligarchs aren't an united faction. Also, if he loses Crimea, he can expect the army and the people to be insanely angry at him
> wishful thinking: the post
This is what a diet of propaganda and drugs will do to you. Parallel reality is a thing.
>wishful thinking
lmao, sure thing chugcel, pray tell, how will the mighty prussia recover and thrive from a war they're losing so desperately.
The Oryx stats are the most correct information we have access to besides the ones we can see with our eyes. And all of it shows Russia is fricked in every conceivable way.
Oryx just counts destroyed Ukranian shit as Russian since they were both using similar hardware for a long time
>actually distinctive Western weapons arrive on the battlefield
>Oryx quits immediately
lel
>Oryx just counts destroyed Ukranian shit as Russian since they were both using similar hardware for a long time
nice cope chugcel, no proof to back that up either, especially since you lying little weasels love doing exactly that with your shitty propaganda videos.
>HATO organ shops
>HATO tanks exploded!
>HATO bases bombed!
and then it turns out you abject failures faked those videos LMAO
>quits immediately!
it's three guys doing free work teams are paid hundreds of thousands for, and they're quitting in October sweetie, long enough to embarrass you for another couple of months
You STILL have not provided any information on how Russia can turn things around either, just spouted whataboutisms and moved the goalposts, pathetic!
>zigger actually uses this to cope with all the losses lmao.
i remember when i didn't expect ziggers to literally ignore plain reality shown to their face, good times lmao.
there is literally nothing you can do lmao, there is no way to cope with this, oryx shows you verified imagery of every single russian loss put to camera. there is no "well it's just ukies lying".
you are preventing yourself from having a mental breakdown by lying to yourself and mostly avoiding the subject, because if you accepted that russia had lost over 2000 tanks you'd fricking have a nice day from secondhand embarrassment lmao.
Uh huh. You braindead incels keep repeating that claim, yet every time you actually try to challenge Oryx on an actual item in his list, you get BTFO.
PS: Oryx was talking about having to quit for months, moron.
PPS: The best part? Oryx's count is the LOWEST CONFIRMED ESTIMATE. Actual russian losses are definitely HIGHER than his numbers.
>projection: the post
This is what living in the vatnik shill bubble will do to you. Utter delusion is a thing.
>Destabilized Europe by destroying its long term GDP growth
Lol what a cope. The destruction to Russian economy is magnitudes worse than anything in the west.
EU now has lower prices for energy than before the war - Russia sells it gas at the discount to China so china cut back on their old suppliers...
which now supply EU...
China has lower gas prices
EU has lower gas prices...
true 5d chess move by Russia lowering their revenues and making everyone else better off....
Yeah that's my point. Europe took a hit, but things have settled and alternatives have been found to replace Russia.
Russia however took a massive hit and is still on an increasingly bad decline in economy.
2 more weeks until their economy collapses right?
What does it mean when the economy collapses?
>2) Destabilized Europe by destroying its long term GDP growth
You don't understand what causes economic growth in long term. Hint, it's not cheap fossil fuel
It actually is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease
TL;DR An undiversified economy exporting a single thing (usually a commodity) ends up underdeveloped. Russia relies on hydrocarbon exports to the detriment of actually building industry and serious economic development. There's a reason why Russia has an economy smaller than Italy despite having almost three times the population.
When they call something economical after my country and from all the bad ecnomical decisions the Dutch have made, this isn't a correctly labeld.
>annexing land
Russia isn't going to get to keep a single square inch of ukrainian soil. Including Crimea.
You laugh but the Russian military is pretty good at adapting. Their entire history in every war is:
>get shat on and humiliated
>regroup
>rev up the artillery spam machine
>slowly crawl back and turn the tide
Like yeah they take losses that would be considered monstrous by Western standards but it does eventually work. Look at drones. They were getting memed on by drones at the beginning, they invested loads into it and adapted and now they're quite effective with drones themselves.
crawl back and turn the tide
they still haven't got to that part yet
This. After the war Russia will have a lot of experienced drone operators, artillery men, pilots with a lot of combat sorties. Who knows, maybe even their generals will learn a thing or two (not holding my breath).
wrong
They'll have a lot of monkee's samovars, released pedophile ex-cons, traumatized alcoholic veterans and a few nouveau riche who sold active protection systems made from egg cartons.
It's over for nato
This is a very comforting cope, to bad they want have the material to do jack shit after the war
You mock them, after this war Russia will have men who can take wiener like no other, when you thrust into them they will thrust back with two times the force!
Thing is, RF's ability to take "monstrous losses" is somewhat hampered compared to the USSR since 1) RF doesn't have 14 extra countries (including Ukraine itself) to pull men from, 2) male russian population unironically hasn't quite recovered from the previous major war 80 years ago, and 3) it's a highly urbanized and somewhat westernized country in which the oil money had trickled down somewhat over the course of 2000s and formed a vestigial middle class that's used to a certain level of comfort.
Note how quickly the mobilization was declared to be over, especially in Moscow: it barely lasted two months.
yeah, Russia has only ("only") 3 times higher population than Ukraine
which would still work out for them, if their loses were not also 3x higher
That was before the war - 145 to 44 millions. Currently it has about 6x the population with Ukraine losing 10 mil refugees and 6 millions ppl from Donetsk.
Bear in mind 2 million Russian men in the 18-40 age range have fled Russia rather than get sucked into this war.
>economy collapsing
>hundreds of thousands of casualties before all is said and done
>China distancing itself
>Central Asian countries openly flouting their "authority"
>massive brain drain, especially young men
>Yuros massively rearming
>used up huge amounts of its Soviet stock
>hated by every country (that matters) other than China
>all this for a few million raped, starved, and poor "fellow russians" and destroyed, unusable land
Is this the greatest self-own since WWII? It doesn't matter if Ulraine fails to retake another inch of land, Russia is done as a world power for a long, long time.
> but it does eventually work.
In WW2 the Russians had 8 kids per woman. Now they have less than 2 per.
crawl back and turn the tide
I have been told that since last year, yet the last somewhat meaningfull successfull offensive they pulled off was Sievierodonetsk and that was in June 2022.
>Muh Bahkmut!
The only reason anyone gave a shit is because Russian troops were basically going there to commit suicide, an opportunity the Ukrainians couldn't pass up. It's a pretty unremarkable city otherwise.
Agree though, last unambiguous no shit serious Russian gains were in Summer 2022. But by that point, it was too late. The abortive Kyiv Offensive had given Ukraine the political capital to prove they could win and get the Western aid flowing.
You mean with all the weapons we provided them via lend-lease? Times have changed, anon
>rev up the artillery spam machine
>slowly crawl back and turn the tide
Anon, the rev up the artillery spam phase was last summer, it's been 12 months of being outranged by western systems and things aren't looking good for the artillery spam plan.
>slowly crawl back and turn the tide
read more history, this part usually doesn't happen
Slowly crawl back and turn the tide? I guess Ukraine really is turning the tide more and more on the Russian over time, that is true. Slowly gaining ground back from the invaders. Pushing them back in to the attacking country. The big leader who claims to have rebuild his country and goes on wars of expansion, claiming that the land is rightfully theirs.
If I look at history it seems a lot more likely that this will end with Putins teeth having to be examined to know if he is dead or not.
most experienced at dying yes.
No, because soldiers have to survive contact with the enemy to become experienced.
definitely gonna need all the xp possible to fight the chinese invasion
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
No but rather: unmanned, under equipped, poor morale, bad health.
yes
armies have to survive to get experience
Ukraine and Russia will have similar combat experience but only one will have won a war recently.
Experience is worthless if you refuse to learn from it
Also their rate of human attrition (that is, deaths and permanent injuries) means experienced troops often cannot return to the battlefield
russia could make great use of it but corruption, pride and inertia will render any effort moot
Experience actually demands survival, anon
>Verification not required
The West can not sustain this supply forever. Already stocks run dry and Ukr must still catch all south and east of their country. Yes Russia take some damage but is not worth it IMO
And what makes you think Russia can sustain their own?
You street poopers are just copy/pasting at this point.
>The West can not sustain this supply forever. Already stocks run dry
lels
T. John smithovich from north carolina oblast
Thousands of poccnr veterans will pickle themselves to death to cope with PTSD
How is that different from literally every other slavic man on the planet?
most experienced in getting hammered in the ass, sure
Russia has a not so great tradition of making people with prior combat experience disappear after a war.
natural selection might make them moderately more successful, but it will take several thousand years
It depends how much their mid level officers are learning before dying, the company to batallion level commanders. I doubt the high level ones are learning much because they seem to be in a kind of delusional state where they order pointless counterattacks that get wiped out.
As for the Russian army as a whole, I doubt there's much learning going on because without a functional NCO cadre, you don't retain much institutional knowledge. Like it can't be overstated how important NCOs are for teaching lessons learned.
OP don't you have to be alive to be experienced? That's the way the Ukrainians did it.
They don't seem aware that passport posting was never a thing on /k/ but they keep doing it...the last time it was a Ukrainian passport cheering Russia and deeply concerned I think but maybe I missed a few more of them
>t. Nogunz turd worlders
I'm the anon that coined the phrase turdworld but do carry on. there vatBlack person maybe post your fake passport again? Do you still have the Ukrainian one? What made you decide to post a passport here, genuinely curious?
Experienced at being mass sacrificed, just like their ukrainian brothers, absolutely
Experience doesn't count if you never learn from your failures. Their ham fisted copy pasting of previously unsuccessful tactics indicate that no learning has occured. As for the most experienced it should be fighters from some war torn shithole like Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, etc. but they're still Russian tier moronic. So the most experienced is unironically the U.S.
After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most dead army in the world.
Why do they hang a karate black belt over the wreath?
Guy was an expert in shotokan karate, he even went to Evo once.
Didn't the last time some moron posted a lot of "his" guns including a gun safe turn out to be a chink or asiatic shill?
yes, thats what the west fears
>yfw you get to watch the muscovite kleptocracy fall to pieces in real-time
>yfw you get to watch thirdies and fifth columnists vanish when said kleptocracy ceases to pay them for their ESLtardation
China still exists. And as a thirdy, I know way too many morons that would shill for Russia and China for free. They also unironically believe anything coming out of Putin, Russian government, RT, Telegram, etc. Many of them are even fairly educated and benefit from capitalism yet blame capitalism every step of the way. Not that capitalism/communism means anything anymore nowaday.
I wish they could all die, paid or not. Nothing disgusts me more than Western pro-r*ssia simps.
The most cucked kind of subhuman that has no right to exist.
Frick Russia, frick Putin, frick the illegal invasion of Ukraine, but also frick Joe Biden and frick the international financial empire. I wish every single rich, powerful person on a very painful death.
I can live with that. I don't care, I just hate Russia.
Most likely because of pic related here:
Ask me how I know you're a moronic burgeroid.
if you do not rotate your forces you get lots of veteran corpses instead of veterans
Their gravedigger brigade will be.
Yes, but not as what you think
Still America. We've been fighting the Underground Wars against the demons of hell for the last 15 years. We are the ones dying, making sure that demons won't castrate and devour you and your children at night. Thank us for our service. We could blow down the Russian "Army" with two squads of Marines going up the Don River. It's over for Putin.
In gay sex?
What army?
Not unless they have battle necromancers.
attrition is too high among the men brave enough to initiate action
it is therefore likely they are culling the best and the hidey boys survive
their army is going through a dysgenic phase
>the men brave enough to initiate action
Those all died in the first few months of the invasion, thankfully.
>the best
No, next were jobless deadbeats/village yokels/neck-deep-in-debt morons.
And now it's mostly morons who think that going off the radar when you get a draft notice is scarier than dying in a fricking war.
Imagine the sheer amount of deranged and disabled homeless vets with severe PTSD. Grim.
God I cant wait for all the seething once Russia launches VX and sarin gas all over that shithole. Pigs are going to have their eyes boiling out of their sockets while /k/ keeps shits and pisses themselves in the corner as Russian troops march through Odessa and Kiev
>God I cant wait for all the seething once Russia launches VX and sarin gas all over that shithole. Pigs are going to have their eyes boiling out of their sockets while /k/ keeps shits and pisses themselves in the corner as Russian troops march through Odessa and Kiev
Putin’s hordes? No
The actual Russian one? One of the most
Well, the internet wheelchair forces will be the most experienced urine-on-face-takers in the world.
The only thing they'll have experience in is trauma
They’ll be the deadest army in the world
I should be demoralized, but the pilot ejected and I don't feel demoralized at all. Now I feel like you owe me one demoralization, vatnik!
>elections are supposed to soft and gentle
Don't they say you grow an inch shorter with each ejection?
yes all 3 of them
Tbh, given the attrition and casualty rates, I think other militaries like Turkey, China, and the US are gaining much more valuable experience by being able to see what works and how without fighting the war themselves, than either Russia or Ukraine is getting. Russia and Ukraine are getting a lot of experience, but they are hollowing out their militaries in doing so, and so to what extent those experiences will stick is another question.
Does it matter if all your training units are dead and the organization has the institutional learning capabilities of a deformed fish?
The iraqi army under Saddam heading into the gulf war was one of the most veteran armies in the world and they got bodied by young westerners who had never seen a war before.
>The iraqi army under Saddam heading into the gulf war was one of the most veteran armies in the world
This is a bit of a meme. They couldn't even beat Iran with the US and half the world supporting them
Iran is a country several times the size of Iraq, both in terms of population and geography. Iran's terrain is incredibly treacherous as well while Iraq is relatively open.
Those with actuall skill will never rise to the top, cause they could be a threat to Putins power.
was the iraqi army the most experienced army after 10 years against iran?
They will the most down to earth army in the world. Very progressive.
>the most down to earth army in the world.
underrated
Experienced in defeat, yeah
A couple of surviving mobiks will be on par with the original professional soldiers that Russia had pre war. At best.
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
Iraq spent 10 years fighting Iran, ended the war with thousands more tanks and other heavy weapons then it began with, got rolled in 15 minutes by an entirely inexperienced but well equipped and trained US Army.
Russia will end this war demilitarized of modern weapons with a bunch of poorly trained traumatized mobniks who are very experienced at compulsively looking up 3 times a minute and get a thousand yard stare at the sound of the blender spinning up.
>bunch of poorly trained traumatized mobniks
The remaining VDV seem like the only decently trained assault troops, and their arty, air, and naval fleets will survive the war mostly intact. It's their dogshit infantry and lack of combined arms ability that prevents any offensives. Russia is going to stay in a defensive crouch and bleed out for years. There won't be a male under 50 left in LNR and DNR provinces.
>Jebansk
No matter how many times I see that, it never ceases to make me laugh.
>and their arty, air, and naval fleets will survive the war mostly intact
Dude, their arty has lost thousands of systems already, their airforce is run ragged and their navy was a joke to start with.
>and bleed out for years
LMAO. They don't have year of this left in them.
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army continue to be the most experienced army in the world, in the topic of gay rape?
yes
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
Post-war they may have achieved 100% casualty rate for the their entire professional army corps which will be a rare feat. Anyone left will be a technician but ground soldiers will be 100% mobiks
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be the most experienced army in the world?
After the war, will there be a Russian Army?
Don't you need people to survive to have experience?
They have no experience that they did 15 years ago
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be
no
>most experienced in the world
In PTSD yes.
>After the end of the war, will the Russian Army be
a more salient question
No because those guys get out and are replaced with green recruits trained with old doctrines. That is why Russia learned nothing from Chechnya.
>experienced
This implies you have surviving troops to have experience.
Last time I checked you needed to be alive in order to put your experience to use. At the moment the only thing the russian army is experienced at is sitting in muddy trenches slowly getting droned to death and sodomizing their fellow soldiers.
>spend 2 years getting your shit pushed in by near-peer neighbor a fraction of your size
>only viable tactic is bombing abandoned buildings
>only historical claim is sporting some of the worst K/D ratios in history of warfare
guys we're the best now!
Winter war
>at least we gained experience being afraid of Finnish trees
Russo-Japanese war
>the Russian Baltic Fleet becomes the all-time benchmark for naval incompetence, attacking civilian vessels from neutral nations, attacking their own ships in a panic, surviving only because they were terrible gunners, killing their own sailors through food and safety negligence, killing their own sailors via idiocy by trying to take venomous snakes and crocodiles as pets, destroying cities' communication grids, and basically only reaching their destination after the war ended and nearly reignited it.
St. Petersburg meat waves
>follow the man in front of you and pick up his gun when he dies or get shot by the man behind you. most efficient xp gain
Bakmhut
>2 months of "move forward until contact, just like the 40,000 conscripts before you". Use their corpses for cover.
Ukraine is already the most advanced military in Europe. Don't get me wrong, the French would mop them. And the French would mop Russia too. This isn't the point. Ukraine is a new regional power. Period.
And they will be allied with both Turkey and Greece.
Yes, they'll be very experienced at dying.
No because people seem to forget that Russia (and a lot of European countries) are conscript armies, these armies get next to 0 experience from war to war because almost everyone leaves after the war and never comes back.
A fully professional army like with the UK or US is more capable of learning due to people staying in much longer on average qnd actually able to use the gained experience.
Not if they keep dying