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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nice
    now send more than just 50

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think Abrams is a good fit. They need quantity more than quality, so hundreds and hundreds of Leo1’s, more leo2’s, more attack helicopters, and dozens of f16’s. And hundreds and hindreds of ifv that use 25mm, 30mm, and 40mm rounds that have atgm’s

      Ie more bradleys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tanks are completely useless in this war due to mines and drones
        they need air superiority

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not completely useless as they provide fire support, so they are less useful than previous conflicts. IFV have more impact in assisting assaults.

          >air superiority

          Patriots and f16’s will slowly inch them closer to it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not completely useless as they provide fire support

            So they do what tanks have mostly done since WWII? Wow, what a difference.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine needs all it can get, Leo 1, Leo 2, but Abrams too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you implying Abrams are a more qualitative tools than Leo2s, attack helicopters or F16s?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Are you implying Abrams are a more qualitative tools than Leo2s
          NTA but arguably yes, though not in any metric that matters in the field, IMO.
          >attack helicopters
          Arguably, as without long-range ATGMs attack helos are just flying MLRS platforms in this war, on both sides.
          >or F16s
          As they're currently (somehow) more vaporware than ol' Abrams has been, yes. At least until Ukraine has at least 12 of them in-country and ready to sortie.

          In any event, the Ukrainians could still do with more Bradleys and artillery, first and foremost.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA
            IMO lots of F-16s with HARMs pods, targeting pods and standoff weapons like JSOW and SDBs would make the biggest difference.
            The only reason we are seeing trench warfare is because neither side controls the sky to cut supply to those trenches.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Abrams are top, but they need more quantity than anything. 500 Leo 1’s would have more impact than 100 more Abrams.

          They have also needed attack helis for ages, and what they need is dozens of slavshit and phasesd out 80’s-90’s nato gear.

          >b-but air defenses

          They would not be flying over Russians, but sitting far back firing some rockets then slinking back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dude, there are not that many Leopards in service. There are MORE M1s in US service and reserve than Leopards, where the frick did you get the idea it was the opposite?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There were 6565 Leopard 1’s made and the difference is that they are completely phased out and we can send all of the ones in storage. The only reason we haven’t sent more is Swiss interference but we are hoping for workarounds. So hundreds or maybe thousands can be sent which would have an impact. Leo 1’s are the right balance of disposable and survivable tech that has an edge over Russian hardware.

              In contrast, the Abrams is still in use, still considered a top notch system, so the USA is going to be reluctant sending in large quantities. In the entire conflict I can only see USA sending 100 max.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dude you have no idea what you're talking about, just stop

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After that over 2 years of war, USA has only sent 31 Abrams because it is seen as a prestige weapons system and USA does not want to risk it. I do not think they will send hundreds more and it will only be a trickle. In contrast, Ukraine could build up over 1,000 Leopard 1A5’s and T-72’s which would have more impact than a trickle of Abrams.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah dude that's why they sent 31, so they could... lose 31, which would have the same morale effect.
                Frick off with this ziggeroid talking point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >seen as a prestige weapons system and USA does not want to risk it
                We are not Russians. Equipment is made to be used. If it breaks, then it breaks and we make a better one. Those tanks are also no longer used by us, so newsflash: we did make a better one, and then another, and then another. We did this decades ago.

                Please tell me the timeframe for sending 1,000+ Abrams to Ukraine, Because it certainly isn’t happening. It took ages of pressure and wrangling to get even 31. Plus, they are kept in the back for support rather than leading armor pushes so they will likely not lose many.

                USA does not want a steady stream of destroyed Abrams on tvs since that is embarrassing. When USA deploys them, they have air superiority and use combined arms so theh know they will lose few. Ukraine does not have that.

                They need mass quantity as fast as possible which means:
                >hundreds to thousands of phased out Russian and Euro tanks
                >hundreds to thousands of modern and phased out IFV.

                Ukraine is moving to having the CV90 and Lynx as their main ifv in the future, and the fuchs as their main apc. These will be 100x more useful than Abrams.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Plus, they are kept in the back for support rather than leading armor pushes so they will likely not lose many.
                not subtle enough dude, gonna have to try harder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                May we see any footage whatsoever of Abrams engaging in combat in Ukraine?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just stop. We know what line you gays have been pushing, we saw it months ago with the Challenger "they're being held at the rear so they don't get lost" no one employs tanks like this, shut the frick up dumbass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take your meds.
                The AFU is still using its tanks and we have footage of them doing so. There's no footage of abrams being used on the front because it's not happening. It's that simple.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Please tell me the timeframe for sending 1,000+ Abrams to Ukraine
                I don't know. It's impossible to tell without actually having inside knowledge. What we do know is that they are allowed to borrow money and buy as many as they want, and at its peak, GD was producing 800/annum.
                >Plus, they are kept in the back for support rather than leading armor pushes so they will likely not lose many.
                Ukraine is not currently engaged in an offensive operation. So why would there be any armor pushes? Is it more likely that it's being kept as a QRF element to provide for elastic defense? Who knows, but you certainly don't, and your analysis comes from an alcohol-fueled, addled, rape trauma'd, vatBlack person mind.
                >SA does not want a steady stream of destroyed Abrams on tvs since that is embarrassing
                Saudis lost tons of Abrams. We just sold them more. It's equipment. We understand that some of it will be destroyed.
                >When USA deploys them, they have air superiority and use combined arms so theh know they will lose few. Ukraine does not have that.
                Wow, then maybe it would be smart not to make moronic pushes like the Russians just because you have a new tank. It's almost like they don't think the Abrams is an invincible wonderweapon.
                >Ukraine is moving to having the CV90 and Lynx as their main ifv in the future, and the fuchs as their main apc. These will be 100x more useful than Abrams.
                We like to take an "all of the above" approach. Abrams will be there if the supply depots can handle them, and so will other equipment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's embarassing is your total ignorance and how loudly and proudly you keep displaying it evne in the face of multiple people telling you that you're being an ignorant moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >seen as a prestige weapons system and USA does not want to risk it
                We are not Russians. Equipment is made to be used. If it breaks, then it breaks and we make a better one. Those tanks are also no longer used by us, so newsflash: we did make a better one, and then another, and then another. We did this decades ago.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not because it's a prestige weapon, it's because we're legally barred from sending the ones we have in stock. In order to send abrams we have to cripple them by removing the armor from them. Since that would involve tearing the whole thing apart, we're only sending newly built abrams without the armor. It's unbelievably stupid, and we only did it to force the Germs to send leopards since they were being gays about not sending anything until the US did. We could have sent 1000 bradleys instead and made an actual palpable impact. Instead we decided to send a parade unit just big enough to DP russia's armata fleet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > did. We could have sent 1000 bradleys instead and made an actual palpable impact.

                Yes 100% those have kicked ass and taken names so hard. The LAV variants use 25mm rounds too and many are being phased out. Should we send them?

                >tanks build in the '50 that are good for reactivation

                Because America actually considers things like survivability of crew being more efficient than simply letting them all die and replacing them with Asiatic immigrants, whereas ziggers are totally expendable because when they die it is good.

                Ukraine’s strategy is to have high kill ratios against Russians and to protect highly trained crew.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in storage
                Dude, most Leo 1s have been either sold to thirdie countries or scrapped by this point. There ar eno thousnads to be sent anymore.

                Meanwhile, the yanks have literally thousands of M1s sitting in the desert.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure if Switzerland counts as third world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They arent in NATO so they might as well be

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh Switzerland
                Switzerland never bought or operated Leopard 1s, moron. They went from their own Panzer 68 straight to the Leopard 2A4.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A Swiss government owned company, Ruag, bought old Leopards and they refused to sell them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh noes, that's literally 96 instead of oyur "thousands", and most of 'em in junkyard state. You're being severely delusional.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We have thousands of Abrams, but we absolutely 100% do not export the special sauce DU armor packages (we don't even trust our fellow #ganglosphere buddy Australia with that shit) so they'd need full factory rebuilds before they could be sent to Ukraine. Like "stripped down to the bare metal, cut apart, new bones grafted in, and then sewn back together" levels of work.
                Whereas something like the Leopard 1 or 2 could just be sold or donated or whatever.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The original M1s didn’t have any depleted uranium armor and there are plenty that have been sitting in the desert since the 1990s. They still would require extensive refurbishing and upgrades but at least you don’t have to strip them to the bare metal to remove DU.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more attack helicopters
        totally and completely deprecated by drones at this point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Send 200 more Abrams tanks and 500 more Bradleys. Divided into four batches so it doesn't crash Ukie logisics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Abrams is a parts hog though, it needs a massive supply chain for support. More bradley IFVs is the way to go.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not possible because they are just too valuable
      but they are also outdated and will go down to a drone like all other tanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we haven't sent shit in almost a year now thanks to congress. Imagine if we had continued to send this shit they would probably have at least a few dozen more abrams and bradleys to augment what we already sent. also the lack of artillery shells they desperately need right now.

      I read somewhere that Ukraine is only able to fire 2,000 rounds total per day along the entire front line while Russia is firing over 10,000 per day as their supplies are augmented with shipments from North Korea and Iran.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >also the lack of artillery shells they desperately need right now.
        That, at least, is not congress's fault.
        Or rather, it is their fault that NATO ammunition production is so low since they didn't do anything over the last few decades to correct that state of affairs, but it's not their fault that they haven't sent shells which don't exist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they only people anywhere close to serious about this war are Ukrainians themselves, then maybe Russians
        which sucks for Ukrogoys, since they got duped into a hopeless meatgrinder, as the putinbots were saying all along, US was never serious about Ukraine actually winning

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Biden doesn't need congress to send this stuff.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you. You shitty uppity little not-Russians will get what you get and you will be THANKFUL for it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We all know how this goes. One dies, it gets spammed on /k/ for an entire month, then video after video of these things eviscerating Russians will continue to flow endlessly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whats worse is that you know the first abrams kills will be a mine mobility kill.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As soon as someone with a drone or radio sees one of them they will probably have a bunch of assets try to eliminate it. Russia is so thirsty for propaganda victories that a single disabled Abrams would probably be worth the lives of thousands of men and materiel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >One gets scratched, it gets spammed on /k/ for an entire month
      fixed that for you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have been ready for that for over a year now, capped my own post back then saying they are not invincible and will be killed but killing a tank and spamming it for days doesn't win wars.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >/k/ for an entire month
      More like a year. The Leopard pic from last summer still gets reposted every few days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >daily Avdiivka russian losses

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goddamn UEF and their T1 spam

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cybran go home! Reeeee!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >none tossed are turret, or got charred from the inside out
        WAR CRIMES!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One will be captured, displayed in red square, and a claim will be made that Russia will reverse the latest American military technology (from 1975)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Putin: take this to the lab, I want to be producing their sights in 3 months
        >engineer: yes sir
        3 months later
        >Putin: where are the new sights for our tanks
        >engineer: we literally can't produce them without a decade of investment in optics and electronics

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        technically, they would be M1A1s rebuilt to M1A2 standard, so there would be a few 90s tech in there

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >western military tech from the 1990s
          So, incomprehensible 7-dimentional space wizardry to the pidoruskies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So advanced it will be indistinguishable from magic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least there's a decent chance the crew will survive to be interviewed, explain what happened, and lessons can be learned about how to better use those vehicles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >One gets scratched, it gets spammed on /k/ for an entire month
      fixed that for you

      Nah, they didn't even need to scratch that merkava, the only good thing about this spam is to remind us anti-westerners should be rolled over by a tank.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard that Avdiivka is falling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s the estimated time frame for it falling? Surely it’s not within two weeks…

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        14 days

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It has been confirmed from all parties that such factual relevant to the case of hostile action within the Avadikkvka situation, that knowledge will be foreth coming at the (from this point) tenday and under half.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        336 hours

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only 20160 more minutes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One fortnight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Half a month, tops.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        14 nights

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's about half a moon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        approximately 1209600 seconds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well you see, the cunning rooskies have named have named a domino "Avdiivka" and once they can stay sober enough to lay three of them in a row, Avidiivka will fall. Presumably within the next fortnight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        383.31 microcenturies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "summer 2024"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They said it would fall 28 days later.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Avdiivka has fallen

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      May we see it?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't repaint it?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Relax. It's David Axe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >David Axe.
      What's this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >David Axe.
      What's this?

      so what? I'm clueless

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He has a reputation spanning the better part of two decades as a hack clickbait "reporter" on military affairs. Heck, he's the guy who put the fake-news "F-35 lost to F-16" meme into the mainstream. He's not a POGO member, as far as I can tell; he just likes to write sensationalistic stories for money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pic related

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God he is suuuuuuuch a homosexual. I will never forgive him for repeating f-35 doomsaying.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If true vatniks will likely take some ground, is there anything of strategic importance there?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kupyansk itself and the Oskol river, yeah.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, that's the part of the Kupiansk sector they're meming about?
        I'm sure Russia would try and drive an entire years worth of tanks into a swamp, too drive across a swollen river, into another swamp that is within range and sight of enemy artillery on the basis it would be a sneak attack because it's the most moronic thing they could possibly do because they are that fricking stupid; but until they actually do it, it's probably their attempts at diverting ukies elsewhere again.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno about crossing the Oskol, but the AFU is taking the threat to Kupyansk seriously, I've read reports of them establishing firing positions on the west bank in the city itself.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Stop fricking posting forbes articles you fricking rat, buy an ad.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    no source

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forbes is a source + russian started to screech about new massive assault.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Forbes is a source
        that is not a source you moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't bother arguing with him. The Forbes poster is a ban dodging rat.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if the article doesn't suck ukie wiener all the trannies in here screech

        they get paid to screech online
        let that sink in

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          stop screeching moronic shitskin troony

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they get paid to screech online
          Which side are you talking about again?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >let that sink in
          But this is the sort of poster that'll screech about reddit lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >let that sink in
          Im not letting that porcelain Black person in

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    120 000-strong Kupyansk offensive 2: Electric Boogaloo

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    video
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1754152023870611627

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1754152023870611627

      The fricking Abrams got shifted to the 47th?

      Dude that's fricked. That's the third tank type they've had.

      Come Home, Black Horse.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        M55 is so cute. Have any been lost yet?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it say Bradley?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shit still in desert tan, holhols are getting desperate and are rushing these out before they can even paint them proper. combined with all the dramas in their command chain. it's over.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An Abrams in tan camo is 10x better than anything Russia can field

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will surely stick out in such a lush, verdant green landscape as the Donbas in February.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still desert tan
    I am vomit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they're sending them to go and fight in Ukraine's desert?
      The Abrams is never leaving the sandbox 🙁

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a few days...
    >Plink
    >PHEWSSSS
    >Ssssssssssssssssssssss
    >BOOM!!!!
    >M1 gets destroyed/disabled with a 30yo Russian atgm
    And the last wunderwaffe is lost.
    What is left? F-16?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wunderwaffe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t.

      Abrams "wunderwaffe" is as old as 30 year ATGM *~~))

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > And the last wunderwaffe is lost.
      Mate they send more than one, it’s not an amata

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wunderwaffe
      why do vatniks project so hard
      the only wunderwaffle tank around is the T-14, everyone knows that Abrams is immortal, just better than anything the ruskies actually field

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tank designed in the fricking 70s is "wunderwaffe" to vatniks
      Bleak

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >30yo ATGM kills 30yo tank
      Yeah this is going to happen and you are going to claim it's a great victory while ignoring 61 dead T-90Ms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wunderwaffe
      I honestly wish there were any real Nazis in Ukraine, just so they could live rent-free in your heads for another century after they win

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I honestly wish there were any real Nazis in Ukraine
        they really like to put nazi shit on german tanks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They love trolling

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would, too. It really seems to piss off the Russians.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its just bantz m8
          Just like russians using soviet symbols, if you have a war, might as well LARP it like its WW2

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh NAHZEEEEES!
          I actually wish the would do some Dirleganger shit and throw all of you ziggers into a burning building.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But there are anon and im rooting for them. Where have you been the last two years?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >homosexual penning Abrams frontally
      If you posted a kornet I might have given you some slack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >homosexual penning Abrams frontally
        don't those tend to penetrate the rear?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Konkurs maybe, gayot would probably be defeated by even side protection.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1970s era ATGM
      the M1 IP was already frontally protected against the the gayot and konkurs missile
      M1A2, which the ukranian M1A1s were upgraded to roughly the same standard, is protected from ATGMs within a 50-degree frontal arc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the M1 IP was already frontally protected against the the gayot
        No need to be so rude

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this
      /k/ never learns. The reality is that tanks are obsolete

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this
        It was insufficient against even first gen M1s, requiring a flanking shot to penetrate the lower Hull and a perfect perpendicular angle to defeat the side turret

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And what replacement can fulfill its role?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mass infantry assaults covered by creeping barrage from heavy artillery

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          mechas

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you really have to ask?
          >D
          >R
          >O
          >N
          >E
          >S
          It's the moron's answer to everything.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Drones can provide massed high velocity point fires, anti-armor capabilities, high mobility, and create breakthroughs IOT move infantry and other assets? Fricking news to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wunderwaffe? It's a tank. Quite old tank.
      In fact, i'd assume USA would be happy to see them destroyed, to have a contemporary capability assessment.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what the frick is this post, is this a false flag? or a pitiful attempt at one?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's not wrong, there will be claps in the depo's ready to see any interesting damage to Abrams.
          Sure we have seen plenty of RPG-7 hits and studied them but has one ever been hit by a 9M120 Ataka? Of course they are going to what to check it out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Saudis lost several Abrams to Iranian ATGMs and Iraqi Army lost one to a Chinese ATGM.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean, Abrams is an old shit, upgraded and capable, but old design wise. MIC wants to make a replacement.
          No one will shed a tear for THE TANK if it gets destroyed. You think it'd be a morale hit? Maybe a propaganda fodder? Nobody cares. It's a tank. If the crew survived, job done.
          Now let's learn some lessons to apply to M1A3.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Given the Abrams is the only tank in the world wherein the ammo is properly segregated from the crew compartments I'd rather be in an M1Anothing shitbox than even a Leo2 if I know I'm going to get penned.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well that just makes you a moron who doesn't know about the protection of the Leo 2s hull rack. Or the capability to, you know, just not use said hull rack unless you think you'll have to 1v1 an entire russkie battallion before your next resupply.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but old design wise
            Pretty much the only thing old about the M1A2 is the suspension
            Everything else has been upgraded

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he has a point

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M1A1
      homie that hull is older than you are.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh wunderwaffe is lsot
      Menawhile, that one (1) lost wunderwaffe butchzered several hundred ziggers up to that point and there's another 50 backing it up now with the capabilityy to deliver thousands more. Also, the one (1) you managed to hit subsequently got damaged, recovered, repaired and put back into service.

      You really didn't think this through, subhuman.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        true, all that ATGM would do is prevent the weapon that caused Russia to collapse from taking part on the peremoga parade, sister

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The abrams we've sent don't even have the DU armor. There's no real reason to think they'll perform any differently than the leo2's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So they'll be performing very well?

      >in before the same pictures from more than half a year ago

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well if by very well you mean not exploding like firecrackers any time someone looks at them funny, then sure. The adage that a tank is a tank is extremely reductive, but in the big picture it's mostly correct. T-72's may be qualitatively garbage in comparison, but that doesn't equate to additional capability. Ukraine just has a couple tanks that won't shit themselves to death at the drop of a hat.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet they're using it as bait. putin probably has a massive bounty on getting kill footage they can use as propaganda.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are keeping them back for fire support.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Avdiivka? wew, thats one of the few places where ukrainians could be hit from multiple sides... I dont like this. Pics from 70 different angles of the same Abrams disabled spammed on /k/ until summer soon.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    no source

    This would be the 3rd major Kupiansk offensive since they got raped in the north. During the last one, they actually lost ground overall...

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pic of ukrainian abrams
    neat
    >abrams have been held in reserve far from the front lines to defend rear areas
    uh oh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >keeping the best optics in the rear where they offer no advanatge
      Abrams should be at the front, not attacking but sitting anywhere they can see 3km+.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and then shot by artillery and drones great plan you should apply for the russian army

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "drones" should be wordfiltered.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly everyone who has takes this bad should receive a /24, minimum.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukrainian telegram today has been reporting of a critical situation developing since russian infantry reached the northeastern most buildings. You have to be decisive with Abrams due to their rate of fuel consumption, so I assume now is the time to deploy them for the counter-attack. Either way, it appears that Ukraine is planning to make Avdiivka a massive slugfest to cause maximum damage for as long as possible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >due to the rate of fuel consumption
      my god you people pick up shit from wikipedia, twitter and random youtube videos then make these grand claims and it's like slitting wrists reading it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        abrams consumes 2x more fuel than leopard 2

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you refuel/resupply them at the rear just like any other tank and, get this, turn them off when you're not moving them for long periods.

          seriously you people are fricking moronic. god i actually hate you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and, get this, turn them off when you're not moving them for long periods.
            Not him, but I rly doubt you turn off the engine on anything when it's -10C outside. Novehicles won't get it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >novehicles
              >"muh dont turn off the engine"
              my god stop fricking posting

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's talking about keeping the heater running when it's fricking cold because crews will do that.
                I don't know if the old ones the Ukies got have the APU which runs climate control and optics for way less fuel than the turbine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i-it's cold
                YOU STUPID FRICK IT IS FEBRUARY.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >-10C
              homosexual, it has to get to minus 30 in Freedoms before it becomes impossible to start up diesels with any rapidity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You have to be decisive with Abrams due to their rate of fuel consumption
      Lol, turbines suck at lower power but not enough that "we can't move them until we are sure", it's more like "for this 500km advance we need twice as many fuel trucks".
      It can be an issue for a country without US logi covering a lot of contested ground but if you can't move them in the rear due to fuel concerns you are basically 1944 Germany levels of fricked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it appears that Ukraine is planning to make Avdiivka a massive slugfes
      They really need to cut off Zelensky from any military decisions at this point. His obsession with holding onto irrelevant settlements in the Donbass at the cost of Ukraine's mobile reserves already cost the the summer offensive last year. I really hope they won't waste too many forces holding Avdiivka just for the sake of PR victories and the belief they can bleed Russia dry like with Bakhmut last year. The trick might've worked in Severodonezk but Russia wasn't mobilized back then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Projection: the post

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >already cost the the summer offensive last year.
        there was nothing that could be done you moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Starting two months earlier at the height of Russia's shell famine instead of sending more forces into Bakhmut is something they could've done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it would change nothing

            They love trolling

            >he thinks it's trolling

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't get me wrong, there are nazis in Ukraine the same as there are nazis in Russia

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >attacking your enemy when he has an ammo shortage and is on the brink of exhaustion from a protracted battle is the same as attacking him when he had an extra two month to restock his ammo and relocate forces
              Okay Napoelon. Whatever you say. I bet you also think diverting forces during the summer offensive to attack Bakhmut was also some giga smart move.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong. Murrican military analysts advised Ukrainians attack with all their Western gear and all new brigades towards Melitopol early spring. 100k men with a few hundred vehicles, estimated 20% losses in men Burgers thought Ukrainians had everything necessary. Instead, Ukrainians did what they did. Strategic error.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why? Ukies literally in the best position possible, thou they could've had Bakhmut back.
            >Murrican military analysts
            Do you trust them?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Murrican military analysts
            >Burgers thought Ukrainians had everything necessary
            so morons told them to do something moronic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >masters of modern armored warfare and the only ones to have done it in living memory
              >using their gear, that they know the capabilities of
              >they tell Zelensky to be decisive and drive on a single axis
              >liberating Melitpol would cut off the western end of the land bridge and allow the nuke plant to come under control
              >Zelensky sends units out piecemeal and they are attrited in detail
              I mean, what-if-ing it is pretty moot, and who knows if anything different would been achieved if they went with the single axis TEMPOTEMPO rush. However, if they were just going to fight a static defense, then they didn't need a bunch of maneuver assets. That was supposed to be their Valley Forge winter, but the failure to achieve literally anything strategic means that the Western European and American funders have likely written off a Ukrainian victory and are expecting a negotiated peace.

              The "military analysts" that told Ukraine that they should assault through mile deep minefields, without air superiority, fire superiority, or even numerical superiority, should unironically kill themselves. Yeah, 50 old leopards and 100 bradleys should do it, just drive them at the enemy and watch them crumble. Oh also if you lose any of them we won't replace them. Also your success will determine whether or not you receive any additional support. We unironically need to dispose of these morons because they clearly demonstrated they're at the same level of intelligence as Russian commanders.

              Yes, a combined arms breach is difficult, hazardous, and vulnerable. What Ukraine did, with sending a piecemeal attack into that same defense was even less sensible. They got tangled in the middle of Russian defenses and didn't have other units to advance through them and carry on the attack.
              >also if you lose any of them we won't replace them
              This is a blatant lie. Just the last few weeks, the Biden admin did an end run around GOP congress blocking aid by "gifting" 60 bradleys to Greece while saying if they pass them along to Ukraine, we'll give you a $200 million sweetheart loan.

              We're not likely to see another build up of western equipped brigades. They West will keep supplying ammunition and funding to bleed the Russians, but with zero progress over the last year, Everyone is probably just waiting for Ukraine to tire out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh piecemeal
                moron. The ukrainian offensive was heavily concetrated on the Robotyne axis, with supplementary operations being almsot token in terms of actual effort.

                You have literally less than no idea of what happened there. So stop embarassing yourself by trying to keep talking about it.

                >We're not likely to see another build up of western equipped brigades.
                LMAO, pure vatBlack person delusion. And it really shows how weak you actually are, Vanya, when "the West is totally going to get tired, ignore the new aid packages that prove otherwise" is the only cope you have left.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The ukrainian offensive was heavily concetrated on the Robotyne axis, with supplementary operations being almsot token in terms of actual effort.
                The fighting was heavier in the Bakhmut area, numbnuts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By late summer when the Ukrainians started? No. Also, stop samegayging, ziggie. Nobody is falling for it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but with zero progress over the last year
                The lopsided destruction of hundreds of thousands of russian troops and effective annihilation of the Black Sea Fleet as a functioning fighting force constitute majuor and singificant progress outside of your delusional homosexualry, vatBlack person.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >vatBlack person
                I have no idea where that is coming from. I'm an American and I support giving Ukraine more weapons to continue the war. I don't know why you're so reflexively hostile. Not everyone who has doubts about Ukraine's ability to win is a Russophile with a Z tattoo on their forehead.

                I did fail to say that I meant "strategic progress," so I apologize for that omission. While the Russians have suffered large losses on land and the Black Sea Fleet (which was always strategically kind of pointless), the front lines haven't really moved since February of last year and the Russians haven't really shown signs that the losses are hurting their war effort no that their on a mostly defensive posture of keeping what they have.

                >aid packages
                Yes, I point out pretty explicitly that the US is continuing to supply vehicles by pointing to the Greece example. There very much isn't any sign of the Western countries equipping and training another bunch of Ukrainian brigades though.

                >muh piecemeal
                moron. The ukrainian offensive was heavily concetrated on the Robotyne axis, with supplementary operations being almsot token in terms of actual effort.

                You have literally less than no idea of what happened there. So stop embarassing yourself by trying to keep talking about it.

                >We're not likely to see another build up of western equipped brigades.
                LMAO, pure vatBlack person delusion. And it really shows how weak you actually are, Vanya, when "the West is totally going to get tired, ignore the new aid packages that prove otherwise" is the only cope you have left.

                >was heavily concentrated on the Robotyne axis
                Yes, they sent units there to push, but they dispatched other brigades to other sections of the front. That lead to the Robotnye offensive bogging down and having no mobile reserves/relief, like I said.

                >almost token
                No, they had entire brigades in Donbas.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're posting classic false-flag/concern-trolling vatBlack person shit.

                >I did fail to say that I meant "strategic progress"
                Massively lopsided attrition of russian combat capabilities IS STRATEGIC PROGRESS!

                >the Russians haven't really shown signs that the losses are hurting their war effort
                This is yet again pure, utter vatBlack person propaganda slop you're posting, Mr-Totally-An-American.

                >There very much isn't any sign of the Western countries equipping and training another bunch of Ukrainian brigades though.
                Except there is, given continual aid packages and the fact that training operations by the west HAVE NEVER STOPPED. Why do you keep lying like this? Isn't it frickign humiliating to know that you're lying and to know that your lies are so transparently bullshit that you WILL be either ignored as a vatBlack person stooge or called out on them every single time?

                >Yes, they sent units there to push, but they dispatched other brigades to other sections of the front.
                The Robotyne axis was the clear schwerpunkt of the ukrainian offensive. And no shit did they not send literally everything there. That's NOT how it works, you utter moron. FFS, they already ran into problems of having OVERCOMMITTED on too narrow a front there as it is, which is exactly why it bogged down.

                >entire brigades
                In other words, token commitments barely able to man the frontline and throw some distractionary pushes.

                You're severely delusional and clueless about modern war, ziggie. Again, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you obviously and evidently know and understant literally less than nothing about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Massively lopsided attrition of russian combat capabilities IS STRATEGIC PROGRESS!

                Russia now has vast amounts of hardened combat troops with exp. in near peer combat, where you can't just call in air support. USA has none and its only getting worse.

                Ukraine was creating lots, but then letting them all get killed.

                China has none, but they are friends with Russian who can train them.

                Exp. Ukrainian troops will not be training NATO because they are all dead.

                Has Russia troops face full weight of NATO airpower and is that important? Sure, but NATO airpower has never been pushed over enemy territory against even 2nd tier air defense, and Ukraine War would indicate that today any airpower pushed against moderately well defended targets will be taking a beating.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not a problem for the US, since it only takes minimal competence to reduce over extension before you get pulled into a catastrophic or even an embarrassing conflict
                Reduce defense guarantees, grow faster than all others, embrace all that AI enables while stoking fires elsewhere - what do you really lose this way? Perhaps the position dollar has, and not even that is certain
                Of course this sucks for others - it did not quite sink in fully yet, but the public in Poland is waking up to the reality that US is not even attempting to (re)build an army that could credibly fight on our soil. We'd get the Ukraine treatment, so if war, we're screwed, and if peace, Europe is in for a decade of abysmal growth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reduce defense guarantees
                LMAO, you wish, vatBlack person. Also, stop talking to yourself, it's fooling nobody.

                >but the public in Poland is waking up to the reality that US is not even attempting to (re)build an army that could credibly fight on our soil
                Literally delusional vatBlack person propaganda. PS. Poland is not "your" soil, Vanya, and never will be outside of your zigger delusions. The EU alone would curbstomp your shit-tier army and probably nuke Moscow into cinders if you even just tried for Suwalki.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you feign concern for my country as an excuse to jerk off about how powerful the country you were born in is
                it would be insulting if I were to forget you're ultimately just an irrelevant pleb
                reality is, at the current trajectory, Rus will test the guarantees to call be bluff, in Estonia or whatever, and the US will have the locals to fight to the last *insert nationality*, make noises that they are totally not folding, and focus on the important theaters instead of the untenable periphery
                and that's a bad thing, since I want (You), muttoid, here in a trench, against the Russians

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy ESL

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh ESL
                quintessential /k/ope

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one can understand what you are trying to say you moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you did understand, and can't credibly challenge it, so you distract

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No what you wrote is a jumbled up mess of incoherent thoughts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ukraine
                >in anyway comparable to an actual NATO member state
                Maybe the brits and germans on PrepHole were right about Poles....

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                come back when US has an actual army in Europe, stationed on the border in my country, ready to begin dying from day 1, and in sufficient numbers

                No what you wrote is a jumbled up mess of incoherent thoughts

                "I can't follow" is not an argument

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Buddy no one can understand your ESL slop

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                V Corps is based in Poland and has forward deployed two armored brigades, and aviation brigade, an infantry brigade, as well as the stryker brigade in Germany. It also has all the assets and support equipment to put multiple divisions into combat once they arrive from the US. They're whole purpose is to hold the line for the week it will take to get the US based divisions deployed. Keeping the entire army in Poland all the time is nonsensical.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the IBCT is in Romania, homie. Otherwise totally correct.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there's like 50 guys 100km+ west of Wisła, but more would arrive move to fight, ETA 2 weeks
                bare minimum to act like Ukraine treatment is not the default for us is multiple divisions, stationed on the border, where Russians could not help but start killing them
                but that is not going to happen, since then US is actually committed to fight instead of promising air superiority and kvetching that it's normal to geofence "our" F35s or whatever
                China is far too much of a power for US to credibly commit here, though they will pretend otherwise, since then the locals start thinking they need nukes yesterday, and things slip out of US control

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there's like 50 guys
                >three brigades
                Why are you so fricking stupid? The US literally has almost an entire division in Poland and you're complaining that they aren't at combat ready, standing watch on the border.

                Why isn't the Polish Army all lined up on the border? The answer to that is because it would be fricking stupid. There isn't an active war on and there are zero signs of Russia launching an imminent invasion of Poland. That's why the military (Polish and American) is in garrison and not sitting in the field.

                People aren't going to sit on their hands and wait for Russians to cross the border. When/if the situation escalates, more troops will be mobilized and they'll move to a higher alert. This is basic, baby level strategy, you moronic, polak noguns.

                Fricking war tourists, man...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >let me twist a demand for credible commitment into one of troops lined up in full gear on the border 24/7/365, and claim a win, muh gunz
                increase the alert level, and it will only be us lined up on the border, US troops safe in Germany, and the 'almost division' almost committed to defend Poznań to the last man, muttoid
                and for the far more likely spot for an incident, in Estonia, nobody but Estonians
                and then, the Ukraine treatment

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ponzan
                Jesus you are stupid. I'm going to drive in to Chicago today and show other Poles your posts, so that they can feel better about leaving morons like you behind.

                When it looks like there will be more of a fight, they'll be put into the field along with other forces that were deployed in the preceding weeks. An entire corps command is there because that's the level of combat power they expect to surge. 3-4 divisions within 2-3 weeks and follow on forces to be organized under a separate organization. The entire Polish Army is only 4 divisions. The US is literally expecting to double your combat power. Half the Polish Army is garrisoned in western Poland as well, are you going to go b***h at them for abandoning Gdansk? It's peacetime you dense moron.

                >Estonia
                There's a whole NATO battalion in Estonia. Before you babble on about there not being 10 fricking field armies or something stupid, it's because there isn't the infrastructure to support a whole frick load of troops in Estonia. IF AND WHEN there is an immediate need for more, they will be moved as appropriate.

                My friend Jan is from somewhere south of Kaliningrad. He once told me that smart people leave Poland and get good jobs out of the country and hard working people also leave Poland to get good jobs out of the country. He told me the only People left in Poland are the lazy and the stupid. This conversation has inclined me to believe him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'll tell on you to my Polish acquaintances
                You won't, and spare me these verbose efforts at roundabout insults, mutt
                >Polish Army is stationed in more than one place
                Polish army is committed to fight for my country, US is not, that's why where and who is stationed where is a signal, and why I think the 3-4 divisions with remain 2 weeks away in perpetuity
                >but they have to, NATO is at stake!
                they don't, Estonia or even Poland are peripheral countries not worth having a serious war over unless it would be fought by the US, and the US has no army that can do that while maintaining credibility in more important places
                >no infrastructure
                bullshit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they don't have to
                You think we're spending all this fricking money on a performative exercise? If that was the goal, V Corps would be in Brussels and we wouldn't have three fricking brigades on rotation. Same thing with the infantry brigade in Romania. If we just wanted to posture, we have plenty of bases in Germany we could have used.
                >bullshit
                Yes, moron. There isn't a fricking military base in Estonia that can handle an extra 4,000 troops that a brigade would bring. The US has spent a frick load of money on new facilities to support and house the brigades in Poland.

                You are unfathomably stupid and you have the critical thinking skills of pond scum. All the evidence points to the Americans being willing to fight in Poland for Poland, but all you're able to do is whine about how they aren't doing stupid shit like keeping an entire field army on the border.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stationed on the border
                there was a stir recently in Poland that regular army wont be stationed at the border - they will be deployed to areas 50-60 km from the border waiting for opportunity for counterattack while specials and national guard will harass invading force and its logistics
                - Special operation and its alleged massacres were a trigger to make a firmer stance as original battle plan included falling back hundreds of km before counterattacking from Vistula river after allied forces arrive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                exact distances are unimportant, US troops will not fight until Germany is the frontline, and it will not, since Ukraine treatment means a hopeless static meatgrinder with US firmly in control of escalation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                60853818
                I'm tired of (You), I'll copy my other comment just so it is not distracted from by that wall of cope

                you feign concern for my country as an excuse to jerk off about how powerful the country you were born in is
                it would be insulting if I were to forget you're ultimately just an irrelevant pleb
                reality is, at the current trajectory, Rus will test the guarantees to call be bluff, in Estonia or whatever, and the US will have the locals to fight to the last *insert nationality*, make noises that they are totally not folding, and focus on the important theaters instead of the untenable periphery
                and that's a bad thing, since I want (You), muttoid, here in a trench, against the Russians

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia now has vast amounts of hardened combat troops with exp.
                Except not, because the life expectancy of ziggers on the frontline is too short for them to gather that experience, and the Russian Army is BY DESIGN incapable of learning from experience.

                >USA has none and its only getting worse.
                USA also has no peers or near peers and as such will always be able to call in that air support.

                >Ukraine was creating lots, but then letting them all get killed.
                Except not, as Ukraine has been taking much lighter losses than Russia andh as been effectively rotating their units to preserve and build experience, rather than use the russian approach of letting them sit in place until eradicated.

                >China has none, but they are friends with Russian who can train them.
                The Russians can't even adequately train their own, having thrown their trainer cadre into the frontline and gotten them wiped out back in late 2022.

                >Exp. Ukrainian troops will not be training NATO because they are all dead.
                Repeating your idiotic vatBlack person projection agian does not change that you're trying to project the stat eof the Russian Army upon the Ukrainian one, subhuman.

                >Has Russia troops face full weight of NATO airpower and is that important?
                What are you even trying to say here, ESL moron?

                >Sure, but NATO airpower has never been pushed over enemy territory against even 2nd tier air defense
                All non-western air defense is effectively 3rd "tier" or worse in the face of NATO airpower. When faced with a fourth-rate garbage "army " such as the Russian one, NATO airpower would hold utterly uncontested air dominance and bomb at will within a week.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >IS STRATEGIC PROGRESS
                Attrition that fails to achieve battlefield results is not progress. Lee getting slapped back after Antietam and again after Gettysburg didn't matter until Grant's Overland Campaign actually prevented Lee from being able to rebuild his broken forces. The Ukrainians are also atritted and don't have a capability to meaningfully make use of the Russian losses.

                >HAVE NEVER STOPPED
                Yes they have. They have not in fact tried to train and equip more armored maneuver brigades. The infantry units they're training now are not going to make the backbone of another offensive maneuver force.

                >The Robotyne axis was the clear schwerpunkt
                >And no shit did they not send literally everything there
                That they failed to equip with adequate reserves to relieve attributed units and continue forward progress. Sending the maneuver brigades to go assist static defenses was not a good call.

                OVERCOMMITTED on too narrow a front
                They failed to breach the successive minefields and Russian forces were able to move reinforcements into their way. This happened bot because the front was narrow, but because the attacking brigades didn't have reserve formations to relieve them.

                >In other words, token commitments
                They did not have many maneuver brigades. Taking a significant portion of your offensive power and spending it in defensive actions up and down the Donbas was not a good use of them. The discord leaks showed that the Ukrainians had only three brigades on the Zaporozhye Axis in March 2023. Failure to concentrate force was a major part of why the 2023 offensives bogged down.

                >vatBlack person
                Disagreeing with the idea of Ukraine somehow pulling a decisive win out of this doesn't make me Russian, or even someone who thinks nicely of Russia. It's the same way that saying "Hamas isn't going to be able to push the Israelis out of Gaza" doesn't make me a zionist. You're engaging with me emotionally at this point (all the caps lock), and that isn't healthy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're now reduced to brazenly repeating your moronic vatBlack person propaganda slop like a broken record, while throwing in a couple fallacies to try and cover up the stink of your bullshit.

                - Massive, one-sided attrition is in fact strategic progress.
                - The Ukrainians are, in fact, not nearly as attrited as the Russians and are continously making use of the Russian losses.
                - NATO in fact continues to train maneuver units for the Ukrainians.
                - You, in fact, continue to know and understand less than nothing about modern war.
                - The Ukrainians did, in fact, have plentiful reserves during their offensive. Yet no opportunity to actually use them effectively presented itself, and so they were not committed.
                - You are, in fact, behaving EXACTLY like a flase-flagging vatBlack person. Wether this is out of malice or sheer incompetence and ignorance is insubstantial.

                You are not and neve rahv eengaged with anyone here in anything resembling good faith, so kindly shove your whining about being called out right back up your ass, subhuman. YOur existence isn't healthy, so kindly do mankind a favour and kys. Or keep embarasisng yourself with this moronic broken record routine you're now engaging in. I guess it's the sole cope you vermin have keft.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Ukrainians are, in fact, not nearly as attrited as the Russians and are continously making use of the Russian losses.
                May I see the use they made?

                >NATO continues to train maneuver units
                With what vehicles?

                >they had plently of reserves they just didn't use them because front line units being attrited in a CAB isn't reason to use them. Most of the reserves for the Zaporozhye offensive were territorial units composed mostly of light infantry.

                >You are not and neve rahv eengaged with anyone here in anything resembling good faith
                That is all I have done. You're literally raving at the end of your posts now. What do you think that accomplishes?

                I support giving Ukraine weapons to continually bleed the Russians, but It's been over a year since either side gained an appreciable amount of territory. I' inclined to believe that Ukraine doesn't have the offensive power to push the Russians back more than I am that they just aren't because of unspecified reasons. You haven't actually refuted what I've said other than shouting "Nuh uh!"

                That doesn't make me a vatnik. You're seeing conspiracies in everything, you need to take a break and realize that not everyone who doesn't go all in on whatever it is you're on is a Russian.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                of modern armored warfare
                Ukraine does not have the air superiority to be pulling a western-style armored assault. If the US mil wanted them to push Melitopol then they should have given them F-16s in early 2023. Now it's fricking 2024 and the only countries giving Ukraine F-16s are tiny irrelevant Euros? An embarrassment for us.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >taking back land
            >killing as many ziggers as possible
            Tough choice.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Taking back their land would win the war. Killing ziggers just means more ziggers show up.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The "military analysts" that told Ukraine that they should assault through mile deep minefields, without air superiority, fire superiority, or even numerical superiority, should unironically kill themselves. Yeah, 50 old leopards and 100 bradleys should do it, just drive them at the enemy and watch them crumble. Oh also if you lose any of them we won't replace them. Also your success will determine whether or not you receive any additional support. We unironically need to dispose of these morons because they clearly demonstrated they're at the same level of intelligence as Russian commanders.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's the classic problem of people making high level military decisions being politicians who's knowledge is limited to which arms manufacturer gave them the biggest donation.
              Then you have generals under them that became generals by kissing the right asses and they aren't about to tell politicians they are fricking moronic.

              Ukraine still needs a lot of aid and current politicians seem to think this is some side show instead of a major threat to global security. For some reason they don't seem to understand that if Russia's land grab is successful there are plenty of other nations that might try and land grab of their own.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If anything, Avdiivka has been even more of a success in bleeding the zigger offensive than Bakhmut, and also has more strategic significance if it were to actually fall

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >of a success in bleeding the zigger offensive
          Bleeding the enemy dry is a moronic cope made up by Falkenhayn when he couldn't take Verdun by storm. It has never worked and people should finally stop pretending it's a valid strategy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a cope when it's your only option. If the enemy loses tons of men and equipment trying to bash their head against your defensive line, that's tons of men and equipment they can't conserve for a larger and more dangerous push later.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Puccia is already down to ancient T-55s and T-62s and whatever small amounts of new tech they can build by anniversary 2 of monke's special needs operation. There's plenty of time between now and the cap of year 3 for things to get even worse for ziggers.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They're still fielding plenty of T-72s. And they can probably sustain heavy artillery losses for 2-3 more years

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you trying to claim attritional warfare doesn't exist?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The idea that Ukraine should just give up these settlements to "avoid bloodshed" is moronic. It assumes that if given these strategically insignificant little towns, Russia will simply call it quits and go home. No. That's not how war works. If Russia takes a town without a fight, they send their army to the next town over and that town gets destroyed instead. The only way that these little bombed out ruins matter is in terms of their defensibility. You only give up ground if it's indefensible and costing you unduly to hold it. The fact that Ukraine is maintaining a 10:1 kill ratio holding these places makes them definitionally worth holding. When Bakhmut went from a 10:1 to a 1:1 kill ratio was when the UAF should have retreated, but even that wasn't for nothing. The devastating losses wagner incurred resulted in the most internally destabilizing blow to the Russian government yet, and the dissolution of Russia's most effective military force.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the idea is that when you get cut off and surrounded you will either die or be captured
          if you retreat you can man another defensive position until its in danger of being cut off
          repeat until you run out of territory to fall back to or attacker will run out of meat to mince
          defenders advantage is real

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >to the last ukrainian
        yeah, six million ukronazis already killed and zelensisraelite fleeing to poland
        puccia is winning
        check incel slave z

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute moron. Abrams when idling fall back on an APU. During combat their consumption is similar

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >due to fuel consumption
      The Abrams was designed to move quickly between defensive positions, but because ww3 never happened it instead went on big offensives and in urban combat.
      Turbine engines are efficient at higher speeds but when idling it's still running. That's it. Not a big deal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      link?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they paint it?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HOW many Abramses were delivered!?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/Jeff21461/status/1754154290841575654
    >This video was not shot in Ukraine. The tank seen is am M1A2 variant while Ukraine only received 31 M1A1SA from the US.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    EU is putting together their TZD military aid bill as we speak, and usa is trying to find workarounds.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Trump and his cronies blocking aid to Ukraine seems to have finally reached a breaking point for Ukraine
    Reminder we are now THREE (3) days since the EU signed off on $54bn.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was a financial assistance bill which is nice since it keeps the lights on, and the EU military aid bill is coming soon.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russia has making gains at all the hot spots on the front the past few weeks
    Can I see them? (unironically)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did make some gains at Avdiyivka but in true Russian fashion they claimed a 2km advance which was ~400m in reality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did make some gains at Avdiyivka but in true Russian fashion they claimed a 2km advance which was ~400m in reality.

      Ukrainian mil bloggers also claim they took a few settlements in Khariv oblast near Kupyansk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russians have amassed 500 tanks and 700 armored vehicles to take Kupansk, and 40,000 men.

        Ukrainians have 300 tanks, 20,000 men and 10,000 drones waiting.

        BATTLE OF KURSEDK 2

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukies outnumbered 2-to-1
          then it is an even fight

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukrainians will butcher them and prob spring a surprise like F-16s, but they are suffering from a drop in ammo at the moment, thanks to the homosexual Biden and Europe missing production targets again, but probably they are saving up ammo too

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >thanks to the homosexual Biden
              you mean republicans

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the Republicans are straight-up traitors, but Biden is a homosexual who should have the experience to tard-wrangle them a lot better than he has

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Traitors to ~~*(who*~~ comrade?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOO YOU CAN'T TRY TO PRESERVE PEACE ON THE CONTINENT WITH OUR STRONGEST ALLIES AND TRADING PARTNERS AGAINST OUR SECOND-BIGGEST GEOPOLITICAL RIVAL, THAT'S WHAT THE israeliteS WANT, NOOOOOOO!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To the very republican party of old. There was a time when Republicans went to war to free others from bondage, to liberate the western world, and to promote liberty, democracy, and western values. Now they simp for dictators, and promote a wanabe dictator.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You homosexuals spent the entirety of the 2000s calling bush a war criminal over anything happening in Iraq.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Republicans did? No. Quite the opposite. Or do you immediately think that criticism of the cult currently in vogue is somehow indicative of Democrat leanings? If so, you might be part of said cult.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Republicans did? No. Quite the opposite. Or do you immediately think that criticism of the cult currently in vogue is somehow indicative of Democrat leanings? If so, you might be part of said cult.

                A for effort guys, but the low-effort shitflinging isn't working. The thread's about the Abrams, not whatever US political bullshit you're trying to stir up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                traitors to White people you stupid mutt

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, actually. Doctrinally, it's an insufficient force to attempt an attack at an entrenched opponent, and that is not even counting training differences and equipment quality, as well as the soundness of the concept. I predict TZD.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I was trying to be nice to them for once, just to spice things up before their inevitable defeat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no point in being nice to a vatBlack person, for they will not appreciate it and will, instead, take it for weakness. No mercy on vatBlack folk.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          500 Armatas will surely turn the war in favor of Russia

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seeing everyone seems to know about it shit is going to be wild.
          Hope they still have some Brimstone missiles laying around.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kursk 2 with Abrams duking it out with T-series eastern front circa 2024 ohh man i dont want to see people die anymore but that would be a sight to behold.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I see the 120'000 strong Russian Kupiansk offensive ran into a few problems making it to the starting line then.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so vatBlack folk are staging another "feint"
          >stocking up on popcorn

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Maic

    Russian troops have advanced into the built-up area of Avdiyivka, and there are street battles in the city

    This was announced on Facebook by the editor-in-chief of Censor.NET Yuriy Butusov.

    According to him, Russian units were entrenched on one of the streets on the northern outskirts of Avdiyivka.

    "If you measure in a straight line, the advanced units of the enemy are at a distance of about one and a half kilometers from the entrance to the city. Two weeks ago, the enemy managed to enter two streets on the southern outskirts of the city. The situation is critical," writes Butusov .

    He also noted that the 110th mechanized brigade, as well as several attached units, are engaged in battles with the enemy, which is several times superior in strength and constantly deploys fresh reinforcements for its infantry.

    " Avdiivka immediately needs fresh reserves and rotation of units of the heroic 110th brigade, which maintains control despite the absolute exhaustion from almost two years of continuous fighting in the city. Ammunition is also needed - supplies are also extremely small, the enemy has a great advantage in means of destruction," - it is said in the message.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bye bye mandickhead!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhh, posting an advancement of 3 houses within a village at the frontline for the past 2 years is not the kind of post you thought you were making anon...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ihUsIP1.png

        >almost two years of continuous fighting in the city.
        why would you self-own like that?

        Anons, Avdiivka has been on the frontlines since 2014.

        It's literally taken them 10 years to get this far!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >almost two years of continuous fighting in the city.
      why would you self-own like that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hi manbic. Careful not to crack the bottle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pic related
        A true savior of the white race...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just a quick reminder of the distances involved here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mi
        No hablo espaniol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 Day SMO FROM Kyiv

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be Albanian.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the city? you mean the flattened suburb of donetsk? that russian / wannabe russians failed to seize and are continuing to fail for a decade nearly (!)

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://i.imgur.com/1OH7RjJ.png

    Russian troops have advanced into the built-up area of Avdiyivka, and there are street battles in the city

    This was announced on Facebook by the editor-in-chief of Censor.NET Yuriy Butusov.

    According to him, Russian units were entrenched on one of the streets on the northern outskirts of Avdiyivka.

    "If you measure in a straight line, the advanced units of the enemy are at a distance of about one and a half kilometers from the entrance to the city. Two weeks ago, the enemy managed to enter two streets on the southern outskirts of the city. The situation is critical," writes Butusov .

    He also noted that the 110th mechanized brigade, as well as several attached units, are engaged in battles with the enemy, which is several times superior in strength and constantly deploys fresh reinforcements for its infantry.

    " Avdiivka immediately needs fresh reserves and rotation of units of the heroic 110th brigade, which maintains control despite the absolute exhaustion from almost two years of continuous fighting in the city. Ammunition is also needed - supplies are also extremely small, the enemy has a great advantage in means of destruction," - it is said in the message.

    >

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is it in desert camo? burgers couldn't even repaint it?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh Abrams
    Can somebody explain to me why USA instead of sending 50 Abrams doesnt send 1000 M60's?
    They dont use them anymore, and they produced frickton of them, surely they should be enough for russian T55's right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Overmatch is the name of the game. This is a real war, and we're all about sending the right stuff that won't overwhelm their supply chains.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can somebody explain to me why USA instead of sending 50 Abrams doesnt send 1000 M60's?
      they dont have 1000 M60s
      they were all pulled from active duty and are now most likely just being used as donors for everyone they sold them to

      it would literally be more effort to repair them up to M60A3 standard than it would be to upgrade existing M1A1s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we don't have anymore M60s dude, it's over. The last ones were retired 27 years ago

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Weird that Russia can still have stockpilles of tanks build in the '50 that are good for reactivation in few weeks or months at worst while USA scrapped all its tanks from the '70 just 10 years after the replacement/new gen was introduced

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ... The first M60s were activated in 1959, they were in service until 1997. It wasn't until 1992 that they were declared totally obsolete (which they are).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >weird
          Not really, no. The two have had and do have very different design and procurement philosophies and processes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The idea that we would ever use 60 year old antiques was unthinkable. If Russia wasn't willing to pull garbage out of the scrap heap, they would actually be out of options.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The idea that we would ever use 60 year old antiques was unthinkable.
            I dont understand why. 60 yo. tank is better than no tank.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's why. Because the idea that we'd run out of tanks is unthinkable.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA
              Honestly it was a failure of policy, the idea was the US had enough for the US and wouldn't accept the casualties that would come from using M60s in a hot war.
              They forgot that being able to supply other nations with your old shit grants major political points for minimal cost.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not really, because it dies to everything on the battlefield, especially mines, and Ukraine's soldiers are its most valuable asset. They don't have thousands of tank crews anyway.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not really, because it dies to everything on the battlefield
                Just like unprotected infantry, most APCs and MRAPS etc
                At least they could have reused hulls or something

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's weird in the sense that Russia is poor and backward, yes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The US has stockpiles of old tanks just like the Russians, the difference is ours are thirty years newer.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The main difference is that the Sierra depot is a bit more climate appropriate than Siberia.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            their also stored far better, the land the US uses sees almost no rainfall, and is relatively the same humidity all year round, for decades at a time. Its perfect for storing mechanical gear for long periods. Meanwhile russia dumped thousands of tanks and vehicles in swamps.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Count from space
          2 years give or take

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tanks build in the '50 that are good for reactivation

        Because America actually considers things like survivability of crew being more efficient than simply letting them all die and replacing them with Asiatic immigrants, whereas ziggers are totally expendable because when they die it is good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unlike Russia, we don't keep massive stocks of obsolete hardware parked in the middle of nowhere. Those M60s were either sold off to people like Turkey or were turned into museum pieces years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't have any. There are none left in the US.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of /k/ommando wouldn't want to watch a livestream of a T-55 imploding like they did back in Desert Storm on glorious 120fps, 4k quality?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All the M60s that weren’t scrapped were sold.
      M60s are out of date tech and the Abrams has been around long enough and has been produced enough that it would be easier and cheaper for Ukraine to receive them. Not to mention that more nations are adopting Abrams tanks, including Poland and Romania, so any repairs or upgrading can be done with ease rather than a half of dozen mechanics who never even heard of the M60!trying to Black person rigg it because nobody in Europe aside from Turkey operates the damn things.
      >but Ukraine has M60 AVBLs
      And they’re not being used in a massive capacity nor are they meant to fight in combat.

      Weird that Russia can still have stockpilles of tanks build in the '50 that are good for reactivation in few weeks or months at worst while USA scrapped all its tanks from the '70 just 10 years after the replacement/new gen was introduced

      This applies to any other military worth its salt.
      Why would the US stockpile tanks it doesn’t need and no longer has an industrial base or logistical system to back them up. Aside from long term storage in the desert and shipping spare parts to nations that actually field the damn things, the M60s is as good as a museum piece. The US already has thousands of abrams in service or in long term desert storage.
      Russia’s military doctrine has been relying on soviet leftovers and seldom fly upgrading and advancing its military tech to compete with the world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have made more "M60s for Ukraine" threads than there are serviceable tanks left in American service, M60tard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tbf m60 tard could be some logi guy at the Sierra depot that just wants to not deal with them anymore.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there aren't any more M60s, which is what M60tard would know if he worked there.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That would be hilarious

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't see the Ukrainians or NATO invading their neighbors, destroying their cities, killing their people, raping their women and kidnapping their children. But I guess that does equate to peace in a Black person's mind. Black person.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's some sort of poetry Abrams vid was posted a few hours after the T-55 vid

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams as bait would be better. Russians would be itching to take one out with Ka50. Perfect time to setup some MANPAD crews or SA.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >these things destroyed over a hundred iraqi t-72's
    they'll be fine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >iraqis having t-72s
      they only had t-55s. America doesn't know about real wars they only attack poor countries with no military

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they only had T-55s
        t. moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they only had t-55s
        How fortunate, so does Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thank God the Abrams are fighting Puccia then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >America doesn't know about real wars
        Hard to do so when there's no real enemies on your level. Also rather unneccessary to know in that case.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The russians sold the equipment to basically everyone we've fought since the 2nd world war. Does that mean there just aren't any armies anymore outside of ours? Saddam had the best weapons you could buy with black gold, from the Soviets and even the West alike. Still got steamrolled.

        NTA
        Honestly it was a failure of policy, the idea was the US had enough for the US and wouldn't accept the casualties that would come from using M60s in a hot war.
        They forgot that being able to supply other nations with your old shit grants major political points for minimal cost.

        Well, we did sell a ton of M60s so the West-aligned countries DID get supplied. But in the Cold War you were pretty clearly 1st, 2nd, or 3rd world. And if you weren't with us, very little tanky for you.

        To the very republican party of old. There was a time when Republicans went to war to free others from bondage, to liberate the western world, and to promote liberty, democracy, and western values. Now they simp for dictators, and promote a wanabe dictator.

        >to liberate the western world
        Anon in all fairness, that was Democrats in charge during WW2 AND WW1. Even if by modern standards they may be considered more conservative. Wilson in particular, what with the Birth of a Nation stuff.

        They're still fielding plenty of T-72s. And they can probably sustain heavy artillery losses for 2-3 more years

        T72s, sure. Most modernized T72s? Not really. Blocks mean everything, and most of the best stuff is dwindled down pretty hard. Hence we get T55s rolled out.

        I'm not american. It's just sad to see people destroying the things that are theirs and believing that they have become richer for it. I don't expect someone like you to be able to understand that, though.

        >destroying the things that are theirs
        >Destroying
        The bases are still there anon. All they changed was the name. Wikipedia article is still going to say "Formerly known as Fort Slavenport, founded by and named for Major General Cornellius Cornwall Theodore Slavenport III (1798-1869) of the 8th Georgia Artillery Regiment to defend against the 3rd Sakachotwa raids of 1839, later used as a slave trade station with Tejas (now Mexico) and as a powder plant during the Civil War, where 800 black men would load barrels with refined black powder every day. Seen here is a picture of the whipping stand used on slaves who missed their quota" or whatever.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon in all fairness, that was Democrats in charge during WW2 AND WW1. Even if by modern standards they may be considered more conservative. Wilson in particular, what with the Birth of a Nation stuff.
          Ostensibly, yes, Democrats were in charge, however, how many dissenting Republicans did you see there? How many kept trying to sabotage the war effort because they believed the Krauts, Japs, or Wops were the better alternative for the world? That is not the world we live in today. The Republican party has lost its way, and the cancer that now exists within needs to be excised. They laughed at Bush and the so-called Bush Doctrine, but the fact is that it didn't go far enough. It is not only terrorists and non-state actors, but dictatorships, the source of their funding, and any entity that is not compatible with the modern western democracies that needs to be destroyed before they make a mess. Look what the liberals got us. We were sold the lie of economic interdependence in order to stave-off war. We were told that negotiation and diplomacy, economic pressure, and soft power would be the tools for the next century and that we could finally let go of the world, but as soon as this is tried, the animals try to re-assert themselves. This is unacceptable. America has a mission, and it is to free the world permanently. Just as other forces of the past did before us, when they freed enslaved peoples, undid the monarchic houses of Europe, and destroyed fascism and communism as political forces, so must we too continue this project and completely eliminate any force that can threaten democracy and western values. The world must be made safe for Democracy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How much do they pay you to write this idiocy on the internet?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Blyad, a man with opinions. Must be paid like me, suka.
              Every accusation is a confession, pidor.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just noticed something
    lancet spam stopped

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With this current buildup they'll probably go quiet just before shit kicks off and stay quiet until they have something to show.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently that factory that blew up in Moscow in the late autumn was a lancet factory.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Apparently that factory that blew up in Moscow in the late autumn was a lancet factory.
        kek nice

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently that factory that blew up in Moscow in the late autumn was a lancet factory.

          I hope no one was hurt. For those not aware, the lancet factory was a bunch of enslaved Russian engineering students and african girls. Russians ran loverboy scams to entice african girls to come to Russia where they were then effectively enslaved.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meds

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/VQ8Gz72.png

              >using sweatshop-tier workers to build somewhat complex systems.
              What could go wrong?

              Wrong facility. But if you want to hate Russians more read this. You will not find sweeter more wholesome women than Africans so this really disturbs me.
              https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/59075374/#59075970

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >source: some dude on twitter
                What moron believes this shit? This is spoon rape tier nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's probably fake, but I wouldn't put that kind of schemes past them, I've seen a Tanzanian news report about one of their nationals studying in Russia being forcefully enrolled in Wagner and dying in Bakhmut

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/59075374/#59075970
                jesus christ

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >flag is half soviet union half imperial russia
                don't this clowns know that the former killed the latter?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What makes you think that matters? There's a reason a bunch of US bases were named after confederates. Good or bad, whatever they fought for, your history is your history and you do yourself no favours by forgetting that or worse, villifying it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those bases all had their names changed recently.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because the US is a dying culture.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nooo, my hecking confederinos need bases too.
                Get over it, trailer-dweller.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not american. It's just sad to see people destroying the things that are theirs and believing that they have become richer for it. I don't expect someone like you to be able to understand that, though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not american.
                Then shut the frick up. We don't care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah sure you don't care so much you cry about it on an Assyrian calligraphy forum. That's how much you don't care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What makes you think that matters? There's a reason a bunch of US bases were named after confederates. Good or bad, whatever they fought for, your history is your history and you do yourself no favours by forgetting that or worse, villifying it.
                The weird mixture of Tsarist and Soviet symbols in Russia looks like some of the stuff like the U.S. did in the 20th century with Civil War commemorations. But history is always selectively reinterpreted to fit the needs of the present. The base formerly known as Fort Hood was built during World War II when there were American generals had grandfathers who fought in Civil War, and there were people who still identified with the Confederacy, and that was to serve the needs of the time.

                For similar reasons, the U.S. military has been reviving some "World War II" stuff like with the new Army dress uniforms that are a deliberate callback. Great national purpose and unity stuff. It's also true in our politics, both the left and right are looking back at periods in the 20th century to ground their politics whether it's the 1950s (not the Confederacy) for the right or FDR's New Deal coalition on the left, but they all kind of want the same thing.

                I think it's true in Russia as well. The liberal people in Moscow who hate Putin are not that different from the people actually in charge of the Kremlin. If the goons running the Russian government were really Soviet then they wouldn't be waging some half-assed "SMO." It's really one clan against the other. The liberal clan is a bit more technocratic and has more Western MBAs under their belts, but the Soviet past is an embarrassment for all of them so they prefer to pretend to be some sort of royalty, and are drawn to making shitty copies of imported western culture. That's why the Russian propaganda looks a lot like Fox News and Dubya-era stuff. Funny Russian T.V. bit:

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                those bastards put that woman in the red dress to draw and glue your eyes to the fricking sznikers logo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the Soviet past is an embarrassment for all of them
                For the rest of eastern Europe sure, but for Russia the Soviet past is something to be proud of, especially for the military. You see its symbolism everywhere in the Russian military and their propaganda. The same is true for the Russian Empire. It's less about selective reinterpretation, and more an intentional awareness that all of Russian history is the inhertiance of the Russians of today, and that selectively dismissing parts of your history according to the prevailing ideology is what the "Degenerate West" does.

                See picrel from last year, and this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Schizophrenia: the picture

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Civil war commemorations was more about getting over the past and emphasizing that the usa was one nation again.
                The russians are stuck in a country that is on the brink of losing it's great power status or even no longer being a power. They reach back to both the soviet and the russian imperial era because that was when they where undisputed (super) powers.
                They are both apolitical. The civil war commemoration ignored the political reasons for the war since the north and south shared more politically than they differ (on the global stage).
                The russians worshiping past empires because they do not care why they used to be strong only that they where, cargo cult "if we do like when we where strong, we will be strong". They simply don't care about the conflicting politics of the empire and the ussr because they don't care about politics just putin stronk = putin good.
                the commemoration was wholesome, family remembering a fight they had but how they got over it and are strong for it.
                The russians are going to the graves of their two dead wife beater uncles that drunk themselves to death and remembering fondly how they'd be the shit out of their kids.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah and they entice israeli scientists from abroad with masturbation machines!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >using sweatshop-tier workers to build somewhat complex systems.
            What could go wrong?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hope all of them died slowly.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I saved this to ensure that TZD never truly dies.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The way putin is quoting Alaxander the Great I rekon the girls at least got the "loverboy" part....

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lancet spam stopped

      Now that you mentioned it, yeah.

      Ruskies really did use only two factories to manufacture them? And one of them burned up already.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lancet spam stopped
      Two today, five yesterday, and January 24 has had an all time high of 141 a month. Sometimes I wonder if you live in an alternate reality.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is throwing whatever is left of their best units into the Avdiivka meat grinder, this is a grave mistake and will permanently destroy their offensive capabilities

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    am i wrong or is it missing a penel in the back?

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not a Ukrainian Abrams, this is an American SEPv2 or SEPv3.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    D&C Russbot post to derail the thread with American politics.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not the lav-25? They use 25mm bushmaster and are being phased out. I do not know about survivability.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are not being phased out quite yet, there aren't enough new ACVs yet to replace all of them.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >russia-has-massed-500-tanks
    That’s just asking for HIMARS strikes

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    say it with me /k/: NOT A REAL ABRAHAMABRAMS

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    without shells useless

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay but ziggers will be very disappointed if they ever destroy one and don't find a washing machine.
    Or does the Turbine comes with a spin-drying function?

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems to me what's needed in Ukraine is more and better engineer vehicles.

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