IDK if you know anon but the Army revealed recently (like two days ago) that they're working on a 20kW laser for the Infantry Squad Vehicle under the name AMP-HEL
> o better protect smaller infantry units, Thurgood said that RCCTO recently kicked off a project to put a 20-kilowatt laser on an infantry squad vehicle, a small troop transport that can carry nine soldiers. The new project, called the Army Multi-Purpose High Energy Laser (AMP-HEL), will be delivered in FY2023.
>literally no armor, just a giant frick off laser
That's a hilariously stupid idea. If you shoot down an RPG-7 with your fancy point defense you're still showering the exposed infantry with bits of hot metal.
Most important ground vehicle development of our time besides APS. All these videos of Russians getting booped by hobby drones got me spooked about developments in man-portable airstrikes in the coming decades.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine, you can make at least two canvas hobby drones with explosives with just one persons worth of effort a per day minimum, potentially more. (Including material procurement and mining, chip manufacture)
You could literally depopulate other countries with just a years worth of production.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's still the whole "get them to the battlefield and guide them to the target" piece. Drones are also operating in this area now where they are doing enough damage to be notable, but not so much that they are the main focus of defensive efforts. A few drones can loiter around picking off Russians as they try to take a shit and not see a lot of resistance, but once 1000s of drones start swarming everywhere getting rid of them will quickly become the main focus. Think of this as the First Happy Time, but for drones.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am very interested in the prospect of 30mm XM1211 proximity shells fired from 30mm 230L/XM914E1 guns on JLTVs and tanks and shit as remote weapon stations.
This shell is actually radio proximity, not timed, meaning it can be dropped on any platform with a 30x113mm gun and used in a counter-drone role.
I don't think there's anything stopping an Trophy/Iron First/whatever APS radar from being able to detect drones, and using that to cue the 30mm means you've got a pretty sweetly integrated C-sUAS solution. Those small ASEA radars in general have a super low SWaP requirement and can be stuck on anything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yea but what happens when I swarm it? I want the zog troops inside to burn, can their systems react fast enough if I toss 20+ drones at once? Using hobby drones it would still be cheaper to set up a swarm than whatever the frick techno hell the army rolls out to defend pedophiles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
First, meds, secondly, organizing a swarm like that is a lot easier to type here than to do in real life, and third things like high-energy microwave weapons don't care about swarms and can take them all out instantly.
It's a surveillance vehicle intended to be used in low-intensity areas such as South America, SE Asia, or Africa with the capability of a long loiter time and fire support capability for SOF. It's replacing jets that are ironically far less technically advanced than these things.
Because it's LE CHEAP. Any new weapon should be x2.5 more expensive than the previous one and use state of art technologies to be relevant in internet debates.
This is the plane they are replacing anon. They don't need a super-advanced aircraft for the role these aircraft are meant to fulfil.
I think people are mixing this program up with COIN aircraft programs that have been on and off for the past decade or so, such as the LAAR/LAS program which had stuff like the Bronco X or the Super Tucano. This is the Air Overwatch program, different role and different requirements.
>Goodbye to the light transport role is all I'm gonna say. That thing looks like it could ferry 8 people between airstrips.
Transport isn't in the U-28's mission requirements so I doubt it. It's probably filled with ISR equipment.
The taildragger is a better configuration for landing on rough/improvised strips.
I'm sure that had a hand in the decision over the competition, which were both tricycle-gear.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>taildragger is a better configuration for landing on rough/improvised strips.
no it isn't
Why exactly were Broncos never brought back?
who was going to make them?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol. Yes it is.
You're fricking stupid if you think otherwise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah it's obvious considering that every alaskan bush plane isn't a tail dragger
oh wait
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that every alaskan bush plane isn't a tail dragger
And the ones that aren't?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're mostly designed to be cheap. Bronco is for war not ferrying hunters.
Bronco is thoroughly proven with ample lift (the wings outboard of the tail booms are not necessary but styling does sell aircraft), superbly easy to work on and obsolete because it's not a drone or 1985 any more (it was main FAC in USAFE when i worked on them). There is no longer a need for them.
The LARA/Bronco story is quite interesting but in 2022 manned airframes should not be goal in warfare for many reasons autspergies find difficult to understand.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God, I love the OV-10 bros. With how derpy she looks. she's perfect.
>acting like it isn't hilarious to dunk on third worlders with a fricking cropduster
Only way this would be more kino is if they make it's primary armament those guided concrete bombs.
imagine just chilling in the skies above the sandbox in that thing, cruising between mountaintops and occasionally popping some sandnigs who can't even shoot back
Those are called technicals and the preferred vehicle base is the mighty Hilux
>he doesn't enjoy spicy crop dusting
Lmao
>can we get tacticool f-150
Choose your flavor anon
Can I get one with a 50kw laser, definitely for point defense and definitely, definitely not for frying crunchies?
IDK if you know anon but the Army revealed recently (like two days ago) that they're working on a 20kW laser for the Infantry Squad Vehicle under the name AMP-HEL
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/08/bullet-made-out-of-light-army-to-send-first-stryker-mounted-combat-laser-to-soldiers-in-next-45-days/
> o better protect smaller infantry units, Thurgood said that RCCTO recently kicked off a project to put a 20-kilowatt laser on an infantry squad vehicle, a small troop transport that can carry nine soldiers. The new project, called the Army Multi-Purpose High Energy Laser (AMP-HEL), will be delivered in FY2023.
The ISV being a modified Colorado ZR2 lol
>literally no armor, just a giant frick off laser
That's a hilariously stupid idea. If you shoot down an RPG-7 with your fancy point defense you're still showering the exposed infantry with bits of hot metal.
It's not for point defense, none of these lasers are lol, it's for c-sUAS.
Most important ground vehicle development of our time besides APS. All these videos of Russians getting booped by hobby drones got me spooked about developments in man-portable airstrikes in the coming decades.
Imagine, you can make at least two canvas hobby drones with explosives with just one persons worth of effort a per day minimum, potentially more. (Including material procurement and mining, chip manufacture)
You could literally depopulate other countries with just a years worth of production.
There's still the whole "get them to the battlefield and guide them to the target" piece. Drones are also operating in this area now where they are doing enough damage to be notable, but not so much that they are the main focus of defensive efforts. A few drones can loiter around picking off Russians as they try to take a shit and not see a lot of resistance, but once 1000s of drones start swarming everywhere getting rid of them will quickly become the main focus. Think of this as the First Happy Time, but for drones.
I am very interested in the prospect of 30mm XM1211 proximity shells fired from 30mm 230L/XM914E1 guns on JLTVs and tanks and shit as remote weapon stations.
This shell is actually radio proximity, not timed, meaning it can be dropped on any platform with a 30x113mm gun and used in a counter-drone role.
I don't think there's anything stopping an Trophy/Iron First/whatever APS radar from being able to detect drones, and using that to cue the 30mm means you've got a pretty sweetly integrated C-sUAS solution. Those small ASEA radars in general have a super low SWaP requirement and can be stuck on anything.
Yea but what happens when I swarm it? I want the zog troops inside to burn, can their systems react fast enough if I toss 20+ drones at once? Using hobby drones it would still be cheaper to set up a swarm than whatever the frick techno hell the army rolls out to defend pedophiles.
First, meds, secondly, organizing a swarm like that is a lot easier to type here than to do in real life, and third things like high-energy microwave weapons don't care about swarms and can take them all out instantly.
>it's for c-sUAS
You can't just give an acronym that fricked up and not explain what it is.
counter small UAS
If you just say "drones" people can think TB-2s and grey eagles and shit.
They say in the article that the AMP-HEL will only be designed to engage Group 1 and Group 2 UASs which is decided by gross weight and top airspeed .
>Un armored open vehicle
Have we come full circle ?
Chevy bros, our time has finally come.
>half million dollar Chevy Colorado
Why the frick do I still pay taxes?
>a cheap and easy to fly plane that does well at low altitude and slow speeds with multiple hardpoints is bad because.... WELL IT JUST IS, OK??????
Maybe if we were in 1960
This is just as embarrassing as Russian cope cages
It's a surveillance vehicle intended to be used in low-intensity areas such as South America, SE Asia, or Africa with the capability of a long loiter time and fire support capability for SOF. It's replacing jets that are ironically far less technically advanced than these things.
>us military making a plane for one specialized role that it will probably be fantastic in is the same as russia gluing scrap metal to their tanks.
Because it's LE CHEAP. Any new weapon should be x2.5 more expensive than the previous one and use state of art technologies to be relevant in internet debates.
5 of the 8 Vehicles shown in this are Land Crusiers not Hilux
The white crew cabs aren't even yoders.
Ive seen F-150s painted matte army green with white stenciling, is that what you mean?
What air base is that? It looks unprotected and easy to infiltrate.
Hurbert
Caught some nice reds and snook right there with mc130s passing less than 100ft over
>Caught some nice reds and snook right there
I have no idea what that means, but I'm glad you did that.
Wait, you meant fish, didn't you? Lol, I thought you were using slang terms for ginger and south korean women.
>all those hurky back sides
Lewd baka
let's all just acknowledge how blessed we are to live in a time when the us military is buying new taildraggers in the 21st century
This is the plane they are replacing anon. They don't need a super-advanced aircraft for the role these aircraft are meant to fulfil.
I think people are mixing this program up with COIN aircraft programs that have been on and off for the past decade or so, such as the LAAR/LAS program which had stuff like the Bronco X or the Super Tucano. This is the Air Overwatch program, different role and different requirements.
The problem is that SOCOM wanted the A-29, it passed and succeeded all the trials.
Goodbye to the light transport role is all I'm gonna say. That thing looks like it could ferry 8 people between airstrips.
Clearly they didn't want it that much if they picked the crop-duster.
>Goodbye to the light transport role is all I'm gonna say. That thing looks like it could ferry 8 people between airstrips.
Transport isn't in the U-28's mission requirements so I doubt it. It's probably filled with ISR equipment.
>Clearly they didn't
It was politics, two republicans were trying to block A-29 acquisition in favor of the At-6
>A-29
Super taco
>At-6
That's pic related
Neither of these planes is the cropduster, AKA the AT-802U Sky Warden. What are you even getting at?
>pic related
The AT-6...the second finalist along with the A-29 in the Light Attack/Armed Recon competition
The taildragger is a better configuration for landing on rough/improvised strips.
I'm sure that had a hand in the decision over the competition, which were both tricycle-gear.
>taildragger is a better configuration for landing on rough/improvised strips.
no it isn't
who was going to make them?
Lol. Yes it is.
You're fricking stupid if you think otherwise.
yeah it's obvious considering that every alaskan bush plane isn't a tail dragger
oh wait
>that every alaskan bush plane isn't a tail dragger
And the ones that aren't?
They're mostly designed to be cheap. Bronco is for war not ferrying hunters.
Bronco is thoroughly proven with ample lift (the wings outboard of the tail booms are not necessary but styling does sell aircraft), superbly easy to work on and obsolete because it's not a drone or 1985 any more (it was main FAC in USAFE when i worked on them). There is no longer a need for them.
The LARA/Bronco story is quite interesting but in 2022 manned airframes should not be goal in warfare for many reasons autspergies find difficult to understand.
God, I love the OV-10 bros. With how derpy she looks. she's perfect.
Must be worried about EW
>acting like it isn't hilarious to dunk on third worlders with a fricking cropduster
Only way this would be more kino is if they make it's primary armament those guided concrete bombs.
I too am deeply disappoint in this decision. Worst option of the bunch by a ton.
Super Tucano>that multipurpose twin engine>>>
cropduster
It's literally just a modernized and cucked Stuka.
Why exactly were Broncos never brought back?
ngl it looks comfy as frick and kinda cool
imagine just chilling in the skies above the sandbox in that thing, cruising between mountaintops and occasionally popping some sandnigs who can't even shoot back
What is a peer war? Lmao. These homies living in 1991 still.
What do I have to do to fly this? I want to fly the tactical cropduster so bad.
I’m a little butthurt that Archangel wasn’t selected. I’m sure they have their reasons for going with the Air Warden but still.
What pilots are selected to fly these kinds of planes in the military? The shittier ones?
AFSOC lol, some of the best.
What if these planes were selected for some role in the "regular" air force?
Jesus Christ
like 160th SOAR or someone else
And a DEERE tractor so SHE THINKS MY TRACKOTOR SEXEEEEEE.