A thread died for this. What's stopping someone from whacking you with a machete? You're going to get into a slashing fight with an intruder? Better than nothing, but I'd just use my guns.
Why even bother with a machete? Just get a wood baseball bat, breaker bar, crow bar, etc. For $15.
It'll probably be more effective with minimal training anyway, because people don't realize how important edge alignment is with edged weapons.
>wood baseball bat
I've seen enough fight videos of these breaking that I would never rely on one, personally. The breaker bar on the other hand is an excellent suggestion.
Why even bother with a machete? Just get a wood baseball bat, breaker bar, crow bar, etc. For $15.
It'll probably be more effective with minimal training anyway, because people don't realize how important edge alignment is with edged weapons.
Breaker bars and crowbars are always the go to suggestions from people who have never been in a fight or even done any serious labor, just recycled memes from the Zombie era. The poor weight distribution makes a Crowbar a terrible weapon, like a sledgehammer but way worse because at least that's an efficient impact device. The exact design
principle that makes pry bars efficient for their purpose makes them inefficient striking weapons
Breaker bars don't have that bad of weight distributions and they come in a variety of sizes and weights.
Tip heavy weapons like axes and hammers have been used for fighting for a long ass time. Yeah they're more unwieldy than a sword, but if you don't have the training you won't be able to make use of the better balance anyway.
>Muh weight distribution makes crowbars ineffective
Just because something isn't specifically designed as a weapon doesn't mean it isn't useful as one. A good hit from a crowbar is devastating, especially to bone.
And sledgehammers have alnost all the weight in one end, making it slow and tiring to swing
a machete has all the strengths of those blunt weapons, but your opponent can't easily grab it, and it will destroy their limbs if they try to block with them. also far more psychologically intimidating. picrel is my cheap chopper. you can also thrust with it if necessary. they are a good length for fighting indoors. >acktschually most plebs are not skilled enough to properly use le bladed weapons
you're moronic; the machete is used to great effect by people with very little training, intelligence, with skinny ass arms to boot. one hit to the head = KO'd. one hit to the forearm = broken+lacerated limb. i've never seen someone swing a machete sideways, it's completely intuitive to keep the edge on them.
https://www.haaretz.com/2015-01-03/ty-article/.premium/the-israeli-guns-in-the-rwanda-genocide/0000017f-db06-df9c-a17f-ff1ef7130000 >The ~~*Israeli*~~ Guns That Took Part in the Rwanda Genocide
Fiskars billhook. Billhooks are superior to machetes since the small weight at the top and curve of the blade make them more ideal for cutting off branches
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How is a sword used differently, and why can't you use a machete like that?
Some swords can be used like machetes actually but most require a slash and stab opposed to a hacking motion or they get stuck or don’t do much. Machetes are sharpened like knives and a lot of swords are a bit less sharp.
Frick no. I'll buy from the local blacksmiths who have been making our local swords for hundreds of years. We've used it as both a farming implement and weapon against each other, spaniards, ameriburgers, each other, japs, each other, local vampires, etc.. AND it's a lot cheaper and awesome looking.
>We've used it as both a farming implement and weapon against each other, spaniards, ameriburgers, each other, japs, each other, local vampires, etc..
I do seem to recall you needing those Americans to throw out the Spanish and Japanese for you, and they in turn only "left" since that meant they could have their cake and eat it too (have military bases but not have to worry overmuch abut cleaning up the mess Japan had left).
Obsolete. A machete would mog any sword. Katanas, euroshit, chinese swords, none of these weapons have anywhere the killcount compared to the humble chopper.
They are ok improvised weapons and is obviously entirely sufficient to murder helpless civilians. But they are pretty much per definition not purpose built weapons, they'd be swords if they were. It isn't for nothing that actual armies with budgets that thought they'd need to fight with them went for swords, while machetes are for Rwandan lynch mobs and headhunters lacking any kind of metal industry of their own.
More tip heavy so it's somewhat more tip heavy, but chops better and doesn't require the draw to cut deeply like a sword.
Basically it works the way people who know nothing about swords think swords work.
A machete is a sword you can actually use effectively, granted it has a good pointed shape so stabbing will work how you'd expect it to. Everyone is born knowing how to use a machete. Using a machete for a man is like biting for a dog. It's an extension of your fist. Give a man a sword and he will probably use it like a machete and get himself killed.
More tip heavy so it's somewhat more tip heavy, but chops better and doesn't require the draw to cut deeply like a sword.
Basically it works the way people who know nothing about swords think swords work.
How is a sword used differently, and why can't you use a machete like that?
A machete is a sword you can actually use effectively, granted it has a good pointed shape so stabbing will work how you'd expect it to. Everyone is born knowing how to use a machete. Using a machete for a man is like biting for a dog. It's an extension of your fist. Give a man a sword and he will probably use it like a machete and get himself killed.
More tip heavy so it's somewhat more tip heavy, but chops better and doesn't require the draw to cut deeply like a sword.
Basically it works the way people who know nothing about swords think swords work.
Or rather, why can't you use a sword like a machete?
machete = POB extremely far forward for maximum velocity and mass in the chopping end. hard to maneuver like a sword. no guard usually. if you swing it, it will remove limbs.
90% of swords = polar opposite, also the sharpening difference does give them less chopping ability. like a duller knife you pull them through the cut. if you don't swing it right, it will go halfway through a limb and get stuck.
A frankish "viking era" sword would be a good midpoint and were mostly used like stabby gladius + axe potential weapons.
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Or rather, why can't you use a sword like a machete?
think of a machete like an axe. you just chop with it. it's heavy. the sheer weight of the blade combined with the force of your swing do all the work. in theory, a heavier sword could be used the same way. a falchion for example is a lot like a machete. it is designed to be a sword-axe.
if you try to "hack" at someone with a lighter sword though, like a sabre or katana or something, you'll do much less damage. these blades are like saws that are meant to be raked across the body. obviously there is still some force/chopping action when you do that but because the blade is smaller it is more reliant on your form and physicality to generate that force and to land an accurate strike.
The classic fixed handle compact military shovel patterned after German and Russian spades is hard to beat - after you sharpen the edges its a knife, machete and hatchet combined in one. Plus uninitiated normies usually wont recognize its as a weapon.
Cold Steel has Latin D-guard machetes for 9.99 shipped. No sheath though. They're legit african warlord approved. Will easily cut through 10,000 civilians and won't break an inch of blade.
Why spend $50 dollars on a machete that only inflicts minimal blunt force trauma and lacerations, when you could go to harbor freight, spend $25 for the biggest crowbar they have, inflict massive concussive damage and internal bleeding, and pretend you are Gordon Freeman all in one fell swoop? (Pun intended, cue the Carlos pic)
>Why spend $50 dollars on a machete that only inflicts minimal blunt force trauma and lacerations, when you could go to harbor freight, spend $25 for the biggest crowbar they have, inflict massive concussive damage and internal bleeding, and pretend you are Gordon Freeman all in one fell swoop? (Pun intended, cue the Carlos pic)
You clearly have never been in a real fight before. >Aww sheeit we Gordon Freechmen now >swing crowbarb at nig >nig grabs it instantly >nig impales you with crowbarb through the mouth within a second.
>can break and bruise any body part quickly >do some demo to escape padlocks or make a ladder with scrap wood and some nails in your pocket >so inconspicuous you could wear it in mcdonald's and you'd probably get a worker's discount >could drop it from a skyscraper or use it for 50 years and it'll be fine >made in USA
a very dumb thread, did you hate a thread that was on page 10 of the catalog or something ?
just get a tramontina
Second
Third, mines from a some randoms garden shed, wooden handle.
Third. Just got an almost new one for free the other day.
A thread died for this. What's stopping someone from whacking you with a machete? You're going to get into a slashing fight with an intruder? Better than nothing, but I'd just use my guns.
>tfw Masamune Shirow is designing machetes to feed his degenerate coomer habits
I am also a GitS fanatic and I appreciate your post
Why even bother with a machete? Just get a wood baseball bat, breaker bar, crow bar, etc. For $15.
It'll probably be more effective with minimal training anyway, because people don't realize how important edge alignment is with edged weapons.
Axe or pick handles make clubs.
That's a pretty good idea actually, wouldn't be as tip heavy as a bat or crowbar.
>wood baseball bat
I've seen enough fight videos of these breaking that I would never rely on one, personally. The breaker bar on the other hand is an excellent suggestion.
Breaker bars and crowbars are always the go to suggestions from people who have never been in a fight or even done any serious labor, just recycled memes from the Zombie era. The poor weight distribution makes a Crowbar a terrible weapon, like a sledgehammer but way worse because at least that's an efficient impact device. The exact design
principle that makes pry bars efficient for their purpose makes them inefficient striking weapons
Breaker bars don't have that bad of weight distributions and they come in a variety of sizes and weights.
Tip heavy weapons like axes and hammers have been used for fighting for a long ass time. Yeah they're more unwieldy than a sword, but if you don't have the training you won't be able to make use of the better balance anyway.
Compare the axes and hammers and maces used in war to sledges and splitting mauls, then realize you're moronic.
>Muh weight distribution makes crowbars ineffective
Just because something isn't specifically designed as a weapon doesn't mean it isn't useful as one. A good hit from a crowbar is devastating, especially to bone.
And sledgehammers have alnost all the weight in one end, making it slow and tiring to swing
A good hit from a cinderblock is devastating too but it's a real shitty weapon.
a machete has all the strengths of those blunt weapons, but your opponent can't easily grab it, and it will destroy their limbs if they try to block with them. also far more psychologically intimidating. picrel is my cheap chopper. you can also thrust with it if necessary. they are a good length for fighting indoors.
>acktschually most plebs are not skilled enough to properly use le bladed weapons
you're moronic; the machete is used to great effect by people with very little training, intelligence, with skinny ass arms to boot. one hit to the head = KO'd. one hit to the forearm = broken+lacerated limb. i've never seen someone swing a machete sideways, it's completely intuitive to keep the edge on them.
What is this?
MTech 2008L Combat Machete
>not spending used car money on a sword
Lol. Lmao even.
Ice ax so I can be moronic Toa Nuju
>Trotsky, I need to have a word.
Why not buy one from the hardware store? Nogs and hispanics seem to do just fine chopping people up without that mallninja shit.
Pretty just Rwandan genocide of the Tutsi people or whatever was done almost entirely with matchetes.
If that's not a stamp of approval for fit for use I don't know what I'm.
https://theconversation.com/did-machete-imports-to-rwanda-prove-that-the-genocide-against-the-tutsi-was-planned-145374
No idea what this website is but it says shortly before the genocide began 581 tonnes of matchetes were imported into Rwanda holy Jesus
What the frick
Damn, what a coincidence...
https://www.haaretz.com/2015-01-03/ty-article/.premium/the-israeli-guns-in-the-rwanda-genocide/0000017f-db06-df9c-a17f-ff1ef7130000
>The ~~*Israeli*~~ Guns That Took Part in the Rwanda Genocide
They just some bricks man I don't see any lines comparing the two situations whatsoever.
Hahah yes. Basically. Honestly just reading 581 tonnes of matchetes makes me laugh.
Sucks to be a Tutsi.
Fiskars billhook. Billhooks are superior to machetes since the small weight at the top and curve of the blade make them more ideal for cutting off branches
Lel I can get a traditional Filipino knife for less than $30 dollars and it would last longer than some chinkmade hardware store machete.
Where can you still get them for that low?
He a fliponi
Some swords can be used like machetes actually but most require a slash and stab opposed to a hacking motion or they get stuck or don’t do much. Machetes are sharpened like knives and a lot of swords are a bit less sharp.
Frick no. I'll buy from the local blacksmiths who have been making our local swords for hundreds of years. We've used it as both a farming implement and weapon against each other, spaniards, ameriburgers, each other, japs, each other, local vampires, etc.. AND it's a lot cheaper and awesome looking.
>We've used it as both a farming implement and weapon against each other, spaniards, ameriburgers, each other, japs, each other, local vampires, etc..
I do seem to recall you needing those Americans to throw out the Spanish and Japanese for you, and they in turn only "left" since that meant they could have their cake and eat it too (have military bases but not have to worry overmuch abut cleaning up the mess Japan had left).
No one ever said anything about winning, Anon. But it was used over lack of guns and reusing bullet casings too much.
How does a machete actually compare to a sword? What are the pros and cons?
Obsolete. A machete would mog any sword. Katanas, euroshit, chinese swords, none of these weapons have anywhere the killcount compared to the humble chopper.
They are ok improvised weapons and is obviously entirely sufficient to murder helpless civilians. But they are pretty much per definition not purpose built weapons, they'd be swords if they were. It isn't for nothing that actual armies with budgets that thought they'd need to fight with them went for swords, while machetes are for Rwandan lynch mobs and headhunters lacking any kind of metal industry of their own.
Despite that I wouldn't be surprised if the machete has killed more modern gun users than any sword type in history.
More tip heavy so it's somewhat more tip heavy, but chops better and doesn't require the draw to cut deeply like a sword.
Basically it works the way people who know nothing about swords think swords work.
*somewhat more tip heavy than swords.
A machete is a sword you can actually use effectively, granted it has a good pointed shape so stabbing will work how you'd expect it to. Everyone is born knowing how to use a machete. Using a machete for a man is like biting for a dog. It's an extension of your fist. Give a man a sword and he will probably use it like a machete and get himself killed.
How is a sword used differently, and why can't you use a machete like that?
Or rather, why can't you use a sword like a machete?
machete = POB extremely far forward for maximum velocity and mass in the chopping end. hard to maneuver like a sword. no guard usually. if you swing it, it will remove limbs.
90% of swords = polar opposite, also the sharpening difference does give them less chopping ability. like a duller knife you pull them through the cut. if you don't swing it right, it will go halfway through a limb and get stuck.
A frankish "viking era" sword would be a good midpoint and were mostly used like stabby gladius + axe potential weapons.
think of a machete like an axe. you just chop with it. it's heavy. the sheer weight of the blade combined with the force of your swing do all the work. in theory, a heavier sword could be used the same way. a falchion for example is a lot like a machete. it is designed to be a sword-axe.
if you try to "hack" at someone with a lighter sword though, like a sabre or katana or something, you'll do much less damage. these blades are like saws that are meant to be raked across the body. obviously there is still some force/chopping action when you do that but because the blade is smaller it is more reliant on your form and physicality to generate that force and to land an accurate strike.
The classic fixed handle compact military shovel patterned after German and Russian spades is hard to beat - after you sharpen the edges its a knife, machete and hatchet combined in one. Plus uninitiated normies usually wont recognize its as a weapon.
Way to completely miss the point of owning a sword.
Cold Steel has Latin D-guard machetes for 9.99 shipped. No sheath though. They're legit african warlord approved. Will easily cut through 10,000 civilians and won't break an inch of blade.
Not anymore they don't
Fricking corpoisraelites that took over Cold Steel discontinued most of their cool cheap machetes.
Just get a tomahawk. It's not like you're actually going to be fighting with it anyway, and it's fun to throw.
If you're on a budget you can buy a stick and cut it in half. Two sticks for the price of one!
>If you're not a rich man
Is not being buried in debt and making more than $20 an hour rich now?
I know people who are basically paying $50 a month for life on everything they own yes but I didn't know that was the norm
>If you're not a rich man
Yadadadadada DADADADA DAA DA DA DA DA
Why spend $50 dollars on a machete that only inflicts minimal blunt force trauma and lacerations, when you could go to harbor freight, spend $25 for the biggest crowbar they have, inflict massive concussive damage and internal bleeding, and pretend you are Gordon Freeman all in one fell swoop? (Pun intended, cue the Carlos pic)
you've obviously never seen someone get attacked by a machete
Double-ended weapons like that seem dodgy to me. Hard to swing it around without risk of hurting yourself with the handle end.
>Why spend $50 dollars on a machete that only inflicts minimal blunt force trauma and lacerations, when you could go to harbor freight, spend $25 for the biggest crowbar they have, inflict massive concussive damage and internal bleeding, and pretend you are Gordon Freeman all in one fell swoop? (Pun intended, cue the Carlos pic)
You clearly have never been in a real fight before.
>Aww sheeit we Gordon Freechmen now
>swing crowbarb at nig
>nig grabs it instantly
>nig impales you with crowbarb through the mouth within a second.
>but Otis used Desert Eagle
>can break and bruise any body part quickly
>do some demo to escape padlocks or make a ladder with scrap wood and some nails in your pocket
>so inconspicuous you could wear it in mcdonald's and you'd probably get a worker's discount
>could drop it from a skyscraper or use it for 50 years and it'll be fine
>made in USA
Bet your string bean basket weaving forum posting ass can't break no half decent padlock with the leverage / blunt force of a claw hammer.
Cold steel boar spear
Fiskars 29" chopping axe