5.7

Can I ask /k/'s opinion on this round, hate, love it, is it amazing, is it a meme?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The whole point was to defeat russian hard body armor but now everyone knows the russians wear tissue paper armor so its pointless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the whole point was to defeat russian body armor
      Shut the frick up that was never the point of 5.7. Watch 9-hole's video on 5.7 before spreading misinformation about things you know nothing about

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pointless
      >Op's photo clearly has pointed bullets
      What did he mean by this?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the gap in the middle bullet for?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same question

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When the round hits a hard object like armor, the middle portion pushes through as the bullet is deforming, acting like a penetrator without needing to be made of a different material.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When the round hits a hard object like armor, the middle portion pushes through as the bullet is deforming, acting like a penetrator without needing to be made of a different material.

      it's a pre-fragmentation cut. nose-on, the bullet can still punch straight through kevlar, but as soon as it starts tumbling in flesh, it starts breaking up to leave multiple wound channels

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The wound closes up behind the plug and this flared base let's you pull it back out again.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's an amazing meme. There is no way to kill it due to the Rainman-like autism of it's fanbase.

    >37 threads on this fricking bullshit every fricking week.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are 5.7 or 10mm fans worse?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        both usually don't own guns that fire the round

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        both usually don't own guns that fire the round

        as a fan of both, I have two of each. They're pretty great.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idk mang i've not heard anything about wound vectors in years

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glorified .22 magnum that can pierce body armor, something that you're probably fricked with if all you have on hand is a pistol anyway. Obscenely expensive, to the point that it'd be cheaper to hand your wallet to your attacker than bother shooting him.
    It's fans are so similar to 10mm gays that were it not for economic factors, I could be convinced they were the same people. Both see speedy bullet and say it's the best thing since centerfire cartridges without bothering to look at what it actually does to flesh, both shit on more common calibers and either subtly imply or yell from the rooftops that their niche meme caliber should replace something that's both cheaper and more utilitarian. Both cite shaky statements about it's lethality, be it the FBI having wimpy wrists or one alleged cop once saying it's like an assault rifle in your pocket that can kill 6 gorillion cops a minute.
    It's certainly one of the rounds of all time, and the guys who've sold their firstborn to afford it have been here to stay for a while now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its 50cpr these days. you can afford to spend $10 magdumping a mugger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you sound poor

      jk just messing with you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A necked down 9mm should be nearly the same price as a 9mm and have better sectional density and velocity. The extra cost is really only to neck down the brass vs straight walled.

      Overall pistol calibers don't really matter and you can do everything you wanted with .380 and .32

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The extra cost is really only to neck down the brass
        Marketing and inventory have real costs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s approaching 45 acp prices update your script

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let my grandkids know when it finally gets there, I'm sure they'll love to know that when they're 50.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just paid .45 ACP prices at Scheels for my 5.7, idk what you're smoking. It's rapidly come down in price due to greater demand.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *its

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hes still living in the 2010s

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine. I like carrying mine now.
    >Low recoil
    >High capacity
    >Ballistics are fine, nothing magical, but nothing to scoff at
    >Great round for varmints as well as humans
    >Ability to pen armor isn't there outside of newer rounds which are expensive as shit
    For defensive carry its great, for LARP it doesn't do anything different besides squeeze a couple extra rounds into a full sized handgun, for hunting it's great. 5.7 used to be a gigantic meme when the ammo was prohibitively expensive but it's along the lines of common non-9mm handgun cartridges for the most part. I spend less now on 5.7 than on .45 ACP.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kinda neat

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only as fast as 9x25, with less weight.
    Pitiful.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no mentions of sectional density, ballistic coefficient, or magazine capacity

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Better against armor
        >Better against flesh
        Plenty of capacity with a man's magazine lol.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's dogshit:
    poor ballistics
    poor subsonic options (60 grains at 1000fps, would you like to know more? No)
    small gun choice
    loses significant portion of already meager performance in short barrel
    difficult to reload due to case stretch and lubrication requirements
    mogged by stuff like 22TCM, which is a barrel swap away in most 9mm handguns.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >poor ballistics
      Lmao
      >poor subsonic options (60 grains at 1000fps, would you like to know more? No)
      So it's as quiet as 22lr with spritzer bullets?
      >small gun choice
      Five-seveN is the best gun ever made so it's no issue. ROCK for poorgays.
      >loses significant portion of already meager performance in short barrel
      Good thing there are no short barrel 5.7 pistols.
      >difficult to reload due to case stretch and lubrication requirements
      It's nothing. Nearly the same as applying case line which reloaders already do. People who say this are stupid. The five seven isn't difficult to load because of lube lmao.
      >mogged by stuff like 22TCM, which is a barrel swap away in most 9mm handguns.
      Logged by something that only exists in anti 5.7 arguments? LMAO no one shoots that shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >spritzer
        lmao
        >Five-seveN is the best gun ever
        lmao
        >Good thing there are no short barrel 5.7 pistols.
        perfect for conceal carry, lmao
        >It's nothing.
        the case stretches multiple millimeters every firing, tell me you dont reload without telling me you don't reload
        >Logged
        are you OK moron?
        this is God's strongest 5.7 shill and it's indistinguishable from ESL word salad. Any observation as to the mediocrity of their chosen caliber and they go fricking apoplectic.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Noooooo autocorrect made some errors I win!!!
          No LMAO.
          >Case stretching
          Literally doesn't. Most off the shelf 5.7 loads are spitballs compared to what EA is putting out. They're reloadable. Regardless trimming is not a big deal and a part of reloading many rounds so again you're the loadlet here.

          22tcm is dogshit. Rock island barely supports it anymore. I honestly can't remember ever seeing one in store and they go years without making new guns for it. They might again now idk because no one cares outside of 9mm shills. Cope.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally doesn't.
            >Most
            >trimming is not a big deal
            What a rollercoaster.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's a non issue like I said. You're just demonstrating your complete ignorance in the cartridge as well as what's involved in reloading in general. In short, you read and article written by someone who doesn't like that it reloads more like a rifle round than his .38 special does and incorrectly assumed it was completely unique and problematic because your opinion isn't based on experience but the opinions of other people without any insight as to their perspective.

              moron.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so do you reload 5.7?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no but if every company stopped making .22 I wouldn’t have to!!!!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                man, that's really weird.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Can I ask /k/'s opinion on this round?
        Why not? People make this 5.7 thread as soon as the previous one goes out. Its not like people were here yesterday arguing about it, oh wait they were.

        >is it amazing?
        Its projectiles are pretty fast and it has high capacity in the guns that use it.

        >is it a meme?
        The super lightweight rounds leave pretty unimpressive wounds especially with the handguns. Its also super expensive.

        >Good thing there are no short barrel 5.7 pistols.
        The shitty pistols are the short barrels that ruined its reputation, Its thanks to those pistols that everyone knows 5.7 as expensive .22 magnum. The round was meant to be fired from an 11" barrel like the P90. Your opinion sounded like shit the second you brought up its subsonic offerings. The whole point is to have a fast bullet, if your bullet is slow then people might as well keep their .22 LR

        no but if every company stopped making .22 I wouldn’t have to!!!!

        >no but if every company stopped making .22 I wouldn’t have to!!!!
        Opinion discarded then. If you don't reload the cartridge then how can anyone trust anything you say on reloading it.

        both usually don't own guns that fire the round

        >both usually don't own guns that fire the round
        KEK

        https://i.imgur.com/S3pqkPP.gif

        It is the future and thus feared by global homosexual shills who put out disinformation to dissuade adoption by the masses, it started by politicians calling it a cop killer and trying to outlaw it. If politicians hate it and don't want you to have it, then it tells me all I need to know.

        >If politicians hate it and don't want you to have it, then it tells me all I need to know.
        By that logic you should use 5.56x45mm. Politicians hate it more, want us to have it less, and its more powerful than 5.7

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >should use 5.56x45mm
          I use both

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The politicians also don't want us to own .50 cal rifles, get one of those too.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Keep moving those goal post, it just makes you look like a bigger homosexual every time

              Politicians are moronic and think all rifles are ak47s, I wouldn't take their word for what's effective or dangerous.

              Don't trust them, FRICK them

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Keep moving those goal post
                I'm not moving any goal posts, lol. If your only reason for determining what you buy is whatever the government decides to regulate or what the media talks shit about then you'll end up with a massive amount of crap you don't need.

                Tell us, how many saturday night specials did you buy when the media decided to hate on them? Are those nickel .22 made by jennings, bryco, cobra arms, jimenez gonna keep you safe from the feds?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >intellectually dishonest and intentionally obtuse response
                Endless mother fricking summer for like 5 years now

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/79bHHPZ.jpg

                >intellectually dishonest and intentionally obtuse response
                Endless mother fricking summer for like 5 years now

                >No valid response to defend your own dumb logic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've never herd of anyone trying to outlaw .50 cal, the cost is the barrier there, despite the cost of 5.7x28mm it is still affordable and becoming more common. Despite what some anons on this board will say 5.7 can penetrate soft armor out of a pistol, even shitty american eagle rounds. Just as it is becoming more common we happen to see an increase in threads saying it sucks, don't even look at it. We also see a slew of big name youtubers saying the same, despite years of small no name youtubers saying the opposite. We also have real world examples of the lethality of 5.7. There are many valid responses to defend my very sound logic, but you dimwitted, Black person like rhetoric, makes you look like a (you) fishing troll. But I decided others can read this thread and so I post for their benefit. Next you'll say post guns. Pic related. Next you'll say the smith loses velocity. It doesn't. No, I'm not going to prove it, you can do that yourself. I also own a Five seveN usg made in 2006. I'm done for now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There was a push before most of this board was born to ban it. They claimed Terrorists would use it to do shit like shoot fricking trains and nuclear reactors. You can still find collections of talking points from the early 2000's that mention it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I assume you mean .50, there are still few guns available to civilians for a reasonable price that use the round. You either take your life into your hands with an economical option or, in my opinion, overpay for a Barrett. Then you need to find a range if you're east of the Mississippi. It's not comparable to 5.7x28 price wise.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've never herd of anyone trying to outlaw .50 cal
                There have been multiple attempts to add more restrictions on .50 cal since 1999. Just because the bills didn't pass doesn't mean the gov. didn't try.

                There was a push before most of this board was born to ban it. They claimed Terrorists would use it to do shit like shoot fricking trains and nuclear reactors. You can still find collections of talking points from the early 2000's that mention it.

                >before most of this board was born
                LOL

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Every American Man should own a Barret 50 Caliber rifle.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If I could afford it I wouldn't. But only because .338 Lapua got invented.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that's because a backwoods militia dropped a jet with a .50 cal rifle.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >poor subsonic option
      That's contrary to the entire purpose of 5.7mm. if you want subsonic use .45acp. smaller calibers either have a necked case for higher velocity or a smaller case dor higher capacity. Subsonic necessitates a large diameter, otherwise you might as well throw pebbles with your limp wrist.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you just gotta get real creative with it, that's all
        https://www.rrweaponsystems.com/product-page/r55-sd-c-5-7x28mm-p90

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you want subsonic use .45acp
        ew.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this will never catch on. It doesn't deserve to catch on. Go away and never come back

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >oldgay anon's marissa oc.jpg
      >marissa

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is 9 millimeters of luger which is same wound for cost less

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it
    Gun fit hand good
    Feel good when bang time happens
    Not good for money, but has gotten better
    Lots of bang before temporary no bang time
    Fun for shoot spinny circles
    10/10 would bang again

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is the future and thus feared by global homosexual shills who put out disinformation to dissuade adoption by the masses, it started by politicians calling it a cop killer and trying to outlaw it. If politicians hate it and don't want you to have it, then it tells me all I need to know.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Politicians are moronic and think all rifles are ak47s, I wouldn't take their word for what's effective or dangerous.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The media shills and politicians were trying to stigmatize 5.7x28 because they thought it beat body armor. They didn't understand that it needs AP bullets to do so, and that civilians can't buy that ammo from stores.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a more reliable 22 magnum

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WW3 will be just like WW2
    cepts AR patterns and AK patterns.
    Theres no need to goto space age new shit for regular army.
    Ok you want special shit for special roles - ok np.
    But the US mil is heavily stroking its self.
    When Brics nations decide to steam roll the Conus and even Mexico and Canada decided they wanna take a piece of the USSA for themselves ..special oddball shit isn't going to stop the 10 million man chinese army.

    Ar15's and 556 out the ass is going to do it.
    Block
    By
    Block

    308 Remington700's are going to be dropping chinks at 800 plus yards

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >When Brics nations decide to steam roll the Conus and even Mexico and Canada decided they wanna take a piece of the USSA for themselves
      lol
      lmao
      Without resorting to nukes, the U.S. military could fend off the entire world from invading its borders Even if BRICS and the rest of the world were to suddenly pull a blue water navy out of their collective asses and we had to defend our coasts
      That’s not including the nasty girls or the fact that the American civilian population has more guns than any military on earth.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        like ukraine?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does /k/ ever not have the most moronic takes? This is impressively stupid

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All u need is 45acp

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5.7x28 has mass, diameter, and velocity similar to .22 magnum. You wouldn't expect much from it, but the Fort Hood shooter got OUTSTANDING results from it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >5.7x28 has mass, diameter, and velocity similar to .22 magnum.
      >velocity
      Why does this meme persist lol

      For the record as a 5.7 enjoyer myself, I think it's kind of a meme as a handgun rounds but it's fricking nasty round out of a 10.5" or longer barrel.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        5.7x28 no-doubt has better short barrel performance than .22 magnum, but the carbine-length velocities are similar. Hence the meme continues.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but the carbine-length velocities are similar
          You mean carbine-length .22 WMRs perform similarly to 5.7 handguns maybe lol. That's the most charitable interpretation of what you just said because my P90 SBR chronos 5.7 loadings between 2400 and 3200 depending on the specific bullet lol, but they all outpeform every single config on that table.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >5.7x28 no-doubt has better short barrel performance than .22 magnum, but the carbine-length velocities are similar.
          Hey moron, the 5.7 out of a 5" handgun had similar performance to a .22 magnum out of a 20" barrel. The carbine length 5.7 mogs the .22 magnum. The meme you talk about only proves that the pistol is worthless but not the P90 nor the PS90.

          Congrats, you actually got me to defend a round I dislike.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has wound vectors or something.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was cool in the late 90s though the 2000s because they were hard to get, expensive, and in a ton of movies, games, shows, and shitty military channel documentaries.
    The people that actually tested them found the P90 and Five-Seven to be eh "alright" I guess, but definitely not justifiable for the price.
    Somewhere around 2018 some marketing exec ruger decided to capitalize on nostalgia/hype for the 90s weapons of the future in a firearm that is actually affordable.
    Not to miss the gravy train a ton of other companies followed suit. Then you get the typical next big thing shilling by the entire industry, which seemed to work as its become pretty mainstream.
    But what do you get:
    >In a pistol you get a cartridge that has less terminal performance than 9mm is almost twice as expensive to practice with. Not to mention there is not a single good 5.7 pistol.
    inb4 but muh ballistics.
    It's a pistol
    >In a PDW/SMG you get a cartridge that is in every way outperformed by 300blk and is even given a run for its money by traditional sub guns, because at least they can shoot suppressed subsonics that can kill something. Also there is not a single good 5.7 pdw
    I personally think it's a fad that will last a few years until the industry decides to market something else new, after which it will be like 357SIG/45Gap/6.8spc/224Valkrie.
    I could be wrong it could be another 6.5 Creedmore, but I doubt it. at least that gave an easily noticeable advantage over 308 in a sector that mattered for that class of for that type of cartridge.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pure headcannon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >guy gives opinion
        Watch me post an unrelated picture of a confused attempt at a meme and say it's an opinion using a less used word to describe it, in an attempt to sound smart.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd say struck a nerve, but it sounds like I obliterated it

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trash

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine. Not great, not terrible, I don't know why it makes people so angry though.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in a ban state so it's out of the question for me half the point is supposed to be it's high capacity if I only get 10 rounds I'll grab the 45

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda memey but it makes 9mmgays seethe so it's worth it. The biggest problem with it is that any 5.7 ammo (You) can buy off the shelf at your local gun store is going to be shit. You have to seek out grey market SS190 ($8 per round btw lol) or the copper black dragon meme fang ammo if you want to seriously use a 5.7 handgun for personal defense. Everything else is underpowered shit because FN only wants milgays to have armor-piercing ammo to avoid political backlash of it being a "cop killer" bullet.

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