How much should I look to be paying? Looking to get a case of M193. Is IMI, PPU, Winchester or PMC the best? I would like something sealed that I can stash for a rainy day but also take out to shoot once in a while
Also what do you use for range? Seems like .223 shit tula is pretty much the same price? Is reman bad?
IMU/PPU are your best bet ATM. best prices are currently on "ammo seek" at about ~40cpr
>Also what do you use for range? Seems like .223 shit tula is pretty much the same price? Is reman bad?
typically ppu or just tula (I shoot at ~300M max normally) also reman is bad dont buy it EVER
luv me freedom bucket, simple as.
I was gonna go with this cuz no mags yet it's a good deal right
https://palmettostatearmory.com/winchester-5-56-bulk-ammo-55-gr-fmj-1000rds-10-magpul-pmag-30rdmagazine-gen-2-moe-5-56x45.html
460 dollars of ammo + 90 dollars in mags = $550
Don't buy gen 2 pmags. there is a reason why there is a gen 3.
>practicing reloading drills with empty mag.
>Mag over seats itself and was a b***h to get out.
>get rid of every gen 2 p mag I own.
Get Winchester or Federal. Youre never going to get good accuracy out of ball ammo.so get the most relievable stuff. It used to be cheap to buy the ammo already in the cans, but the price has doubled since covid. Just purchase a new can separately from your ammo. Use ammo seek.
Winchester is the only one that is actually m193. All the others are downloaded to cut costs. Check some velocity tests online. Go buy a case of 500 from SGAmmo for 46.5cpr
Is it sealed? I thought IMI and PMC had good velocity too. I have PMC and IMI and they are both sealed. Don't know about WIN or PPU
M193 is a standard military spec we're after and certainly not just available through Winchester.
@OP, IMI and PPU are fine.
Is Federal good or na? Fiocchi is usually pretty solid
I've had some shit Federal 9mm rounds, not that it's the same. Between 4 boxes of steel case, at least 5 of the little frickers had the round pressed into the cartridge and one ended up squibbing, thank god the fricker refused to chamber another round.
IMI and PPU are also military spec, but true remington, federal, and most of the rest are 223 loaded
IMI is super hot. PMC is not hot. Win is not sealed and PPU m193 is sealed.
I can reload a 75gr BTHP for about 41cpr. I can reload M193 for about 35cpr if I wanted. I bought some IMI M193 for 47cpr last year with Midways birthday deal.
IMI M193 was watered down in my experience.
Never had a problem with Gen2.
Why is ammo so expensive. My local shop only has 125 rounds boxes for 89.99. Feels bad man.
>ammoseek.com/ammo/5.56x45mm-nato?ca=brass&co=new
use ammo seek you can get 223 for less than 50c
I picked up a 100 rounds for $45 at academy the other day. Breddy good for post covid.
at the shop i go to, it was 250 rounds for about $80.
They're using like a million rounds a day in ukraine, pretty sure most of our ammo factories aren't producing mainly for the civilian market right now.
places gearing up for 6.8 fury + government stocking up for ukraine, taiwan and potentially the middle east.
IMI or Hornady Frontier M193 are the best. 50 cents a round for a case is about typical now. I wouldn't pay more than that. You won't find that in any store. Online only.
Buy brass. The difference in price between steel and brass rn is not enough to make the extra wear from steel worth it.
Avoid Winchester. Bottom of the barrel tier.
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Winchester white box is m193, it's fine, on par with PPU. Hottest m193 for the price right now. Watch Buffman's review.
>Watch Buffman's review.
No. I'm not going to waste my time watching some homosexual youtube video
>accuses a YouTuber he's never watched of being a homosexual
>Is a tripgay on an anonymous image board
Ok
Winchester m193 is not the same as their usual white box offerings. Lake City manufactured, loaded to true m193 specs, reliable.
the bestest generic 223 ammo i recently shot was GGG Lithuania, followed by geco made in switzerland which would be even better but they fricked the primers holes with military crimp
All m193/m855 ammo is sealed. Frontier says "military grade", but its not sealed.
Federal and Winchester are made in a .gov ammo plant (Lake City). For stacking that's what I would use.
i like to shoot wolf gold, prvi partizan, and ventura munitions. sometimes tula for fun because it produces huge muzzle flashes. the reman stuff i get from ventura isn't bad
Does PMC give more muzzle blast than other 556s?
i don't remember it having any noticeable difference
Remember, with a small amount of work to clean and deprime, you can get a 5-10c rebate on your brass by selling to reloaders.
Same question but for 7.62/308? Im looking for a quality round to stack deep was leaning towards imi as well
polish surplus if you can find it
cheap and it just werks
Bump what sort of 308 are those kooky peppers stacking?
after shipping, probly about 39cpr
where?
So is IMI and PMC good or not
No. PPU or Winchester white box.
Does the PPU have the waterproof seal?
PMC 556 is kinda wack. Had 5 duds in a pack of 150. It's not a lot but I just don't like that kind of inconsistency.
PMC 9mm is awesome though and not dirty at all like blazer.
Winchester is so fricking dirty to shoot and creates noticably more smoke compared to anything else I've shot. It is bottom of the barrel at a premium price.
IMI, PPU, Winchester, maybe Federal (no idea since Winchester took over Lake City) are loaded to true M193 specs. PMC consistently comes in at lower velocities than the aforementioned companies.