3M22 Zircon can be shot down by traditional air defense

https://kyivindependent.com/air-force-ukraine-can-down-zircon-hypersonic-missile-with-patriot-samp-t/
"The speed of the Zircon missile is approximately 8-9 Mach or about 10,000 kilometers per hour. When it enters the strike trajectory, its speed drops to about Mach 4.5, according to Yevlash.

"At this moment, we can use our anti-ballistic systems. These are SAMP/T, Patriot, which can inflict powerful damage and shoot down even such weapons," the spokesperson said."

Your average US Patriot or French-Italian SAMP/T can take on those flying sausages, also proving it's incapable of actual hypersonic maneuvers if it dips to mach 4.5 for terminal guidance. So much for "muh gibersonic" junk.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really do hope that someone will shoop an "imagine the smell" version of this thing

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why did you post a picture of a Boeing Waverider?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both this and the braaaapmos copied US tech.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most likely, hypersonic glide vehicles as a concept are clearly a meme at this point

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BrahMos II will be no match for Chinese air defence systems then

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >imblying chink air systems are better than Russia's

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is pic actually zircon? because that looks like a ballistic missile

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one knows what it actually looks like.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The speed of the Zircon missile is approximately 8-9 Mach
        I assume that's the booster stage

        all google pics show the same as OP

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          which is a Boeing Waverider, which is American.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And it could very well be a copy of the Waverider, it’s that Russia hasn’t released any photos of the weapon yet. It may not even be air-breathing at all for all we know.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it seems not to exist at all.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's russia. If you don't see it they don't have it.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot PAC2 and above are specialized in ballistic missile defense so even full hypersonic missiles can be intercepted. If the Zircon must slow down to Mach 4.5 during terminal flight then the Russians couldn’t solve the plasma issue. People assume HAWC solves it but I don’t know if it’s stated anywhere specifically that it has — if it turns out to be a different version of Zircon that’ll be somewhat embarrassing.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are missiles air breathers now?
    what happened?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why would you make a missile simpler, lighter, cheaper

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuel + oxidative > only fuel + Oxygen from air

      Heavy large rocket bad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maturation of Ramjet technology and the ongoing development of Scramjet engines.You get longer range out of them and almost the performance of a true rocket motor.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but you have to have early intelligence. That is provided by satelites and radars. and a AA battery in the possible target.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zircon isn't real

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It probably does, or someone needs to be fired for continually lying to Congress.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Needls like 40 Zircon silhouettes thrown in for no reason to be more faithful to the original

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russian cep

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, I remember how they tried to blast our base in Mykolaiv twice. The first time they missed the main building by 40m. It took them 2 months to try again and miss by 20m.
      They gave up after that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ow. Got more first hand stories Ukranon? How does it feel when that shit goes off 20m away? Doesn't the blast of big bois shred anything in 100m radius?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the cum/chug/ger still cites no source
    Yeah, guessing Patriot did kill a second hypesanic meme missile.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >POTER' NET! All the Zircons were shot down... by the hohl's asses.
    >It's been a few days and ukrainian social networks are filled with obituaries of high-ranking ukrainian officers. And not only Ukrainian ones.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >seething vatBlack person is seething

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It keeps happening.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen bots spamming that texan independence shit on youtube and twatter lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember the other week when one of the ziggers said anyone using archives are glowies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >texit
      What an amazing breading astroturf to try. Couldn’t they have picked something that actually has some basis in reality?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have been unfortunate enough to see a few morons with Texit bumper stickers on their cars.
        They looked as moronic as you would expect such a person to look.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >old shit being posted as news
    >badly shooped together
    Shooting down that zircon really did a number on you ziggers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please understand, it was all they had left
      I dont think there is a single system left in the russian inventory that hasn't been dunked on by outdated Western gear at this point

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Kharkov
    There's no such city in Ukraine. Opinion disregarded.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    tik-tok, ivan

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So was shit from my ass which you're going to call dinner

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why so upset though, ivan? is the 2ch spam worth the inevitable ban?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I cant be patient, we're liberating Belgorod from you homosexuals, it wont look like a landfill after its been freed.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    your kind are compulsive liars, your word has no value. if you told me the sky was blue I'd still go outside to check

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the spam picking up after this story comes out and a pair of ukie mig-29's clap a building behind russian lines
    The cum/chug/gers are not having a good day today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't miss that Russia lost another jet, supposedly to 'friendly fire' again.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek kinzhal got intercepted and the cope was that it wasn't a real hypersonic and the Zircon was. Now this. Would hate to be a Russian dickrider rn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Would hate to be a Russian dickrider rn
      you'd think they'd be used to failure by now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I remember the Kinzhal cope and this definitely seems familiar. Another zigger wunderwaffe turns out to be overhyped trash as potential customers from the multipolar world are starting to rethink their choices.
      Also, nice trips.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I will be genuinely surprised if the chinese and Indian hypersonics perform any better
        Western built hypersonics, naturally, will prove to be horrifyingly effective when we give them away to some military proxy fifty years from now

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Western built hypersonics,
          >HYPERSANIC
          Welcome to 50 years ago.
          when subhumans lrn2type they forget about history

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you are actually bringing icbm's into a thread about hypersonics?

            how stupid can you be?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hypersonic is a buzzword that just refers to shit faster than Mach 5. It gets used like it's something new when in reality the specific designs are boost gliders and airbreathing scramjets. The hypersanics in caps was supposed to denote the intention of his post anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no they categorize shit based on the material used anon

                low hypersonics vs high hypersonics are a completely different beasts

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're missing the entire point of the "hypersonic arms race".

            Hypersonic is a media simplification for hypersonic weapons capable of atmospheric maneuvers, not just in space, and during all flight phases including terminal guidance. Hypersonic gliders are one of multiple kinds of hypersonic weapons.

            The Kinzhal for instance is just an iskander SRBM strapped onto a MiG-31K. The Iskander is already hypersonic, but Russia claimed it was an actually new design capable of hypersonic maneuvers. Everyone including the Chinese saw that it's just a straight running weapon no more capable than your regular ballistic missile.

            Then came the Zirkon superweapon capable of singlehandedly destroying the US Navy. Which also turned out to be a meme, since it can't do any hypersonic maneuvers during its terminal phase.

            Russia does NOT have any modern hypersonic weapon, they're stretching the truth using older designs that can only be hypersonic for a short moment during the initial boost phase, and can still be intercepted by existing systems.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I dont know what you're talking about we're already in kursk.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    see

    https://i.imgur.com/BqfX2K0.png

    [...]

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >But then what happened to Kharkiv?
    nothing. If you're saying something happened the opposite must be true because you creatures are incapable of being truthful. you have no credibility

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. I concluded Oryx is the unbiased and reliable source just by witnessing the their seething.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i love how at some point they gave up on cherry picking his worst examples(even though you could always tell the vehicle in them) and moved to just attempting to create a false premise that you both know he's not credible

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you don't get it. there is nothing you can post that I will believe

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily Reminder that no footage exists of any Russian missile traveling at hypersanic speeds.

    We have hours of footage of cold slavs getting coleslawed, tanks getting tractored, washing machines being worshipped, VDV drinking da big blue sea
    and literally none of the Zircon or the Kinzhal

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Presumably, since the vatniks are claiming that it is not

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bloody hell, sirs are hard at work today. Nerves have been struck.
    Hey, Rajneesh, Kumar, Sanjay and Vijay, when your obvious shill posts get deleted, will you still get crore rupee for your toil?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pajeets are weird man.

      They suck Russia because they've been buying weapons from them for over a decade.
      They suck France whenever they buy Rafales.
      They suck Israel because they're bombing muslims.

      Literal caste mentality, they'll bow down to any foreign power sympathetic to their current government and whoever Modi meets.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its genuinely amazing how butthurt the completely unsurprising reveal that russias other unstoppable super missile is also nothing but SAM food has got the ziggers in this thread
    You'd think they would have learned by now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s the literal point of denying reality in the war? Will Russia lose if you meme and pretend? Is it a mind over matter thing?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Any particular reason you morons are using an antiship missile on land targets?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the Russian mind, if something has a gyroscope, it can be a ballistic or a cruise missile even if it was never designed for the task. That's why most of their heavy SAMs since the 1950s have a ground attack mode, why their first anti-ship missiles were pilotless MiG-15s with the flight command linked to the gyro (That's for the KS-1 Komet, the P-15 Termit was based on the Yak-1000 instead)

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Georgian, British and Ukrainian resources
    are they? like i said you have no credibility so I can only assume those sources have some sort of zigger bias otherwise you wouldn't be sharing them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My bet is either keyloggers or crypto miners, thats usually the play with zigger links

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Guys I think this one might be a bot, it just keeps repeating the same thing over and over

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      his script hasn't been updated yet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He just can't leave unless he get certain replies for a screenshot for /chug/.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a render of the Boeing X-51A Wavewinder.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zircon totally exists tho.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        may we see it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here's a picture of the Zircon. Unrelated: don't look up what a HAWC is, it's boring.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever that is it isn’t HAWC which is air-breathing.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You'll have to tell DARPA, because that image is from their website.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In the sense that there is a thing called Zircon? Yes.
        In the sense of it performs like vatnik advertised? Lol, no.
        Lmao no even

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukraine's pre-war death rate was 2.6 per 1000 people. If the war hadn't happened at all, there would still have been 228,800 deaths between 2022 and 2024, so there's over a hundred thousand graves unaccounted for in your image.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The image was being spammed during the Kherson and Lyman collapses. He's just an old shill using old shill imagery.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heres what zircon looks like. Another glorified ballistic missile.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      India is paying Russia billions to add a few extra intake ducts on Brahmos?
      Jesus

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is like archaeologists claiming to know the appearance of a dinosaur from a part of a fossilised tibia bone.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That pic is such a self own it's just sad.
    Second army in the world everyone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean? All brothers on 2ch think it's hilarious~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >And polish general Adam Marczak
    He died of natural causes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>And polish general Adam Marczak
      >He died of natural causes.
      in Belgium
      (at least officially)

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering the chief designer was arrested and charged with treason a couple of days ago, I guess it didn't fly so good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Considering the chief designer was arrested and charged with treason a couple of days ago
      lmao, what?
      bloody hell, this thread is such an embarrassment to ziggoids

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Feel free to deepl this or smth.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          mb, saved the thumbnail

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here you go.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And now for the Google version to go with the yandex version, so you can get a better understanding of both.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/o9Syjds.jpg

          Here you go.

          >Ajax Hypersonic Aircraft
          Putin confirmed for being Ming the Merciless.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zircon isn't actually a scramjet? I thought it was some ballistic missile shit.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You do realise people of all ranks die of natural causes, you can't just go to the obituaries and pretend every one that died from heart attacks is your cope missile every time.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There didn't say they shot down every missile they said 35/40, and every one heading towards Kyiv. Only Russians said every missile.
    Kharkiv is right next to the Russian border, effectively frontline, it's not nearly as easily protected.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why is there a loaf of bread on the coffin? Are they having a picnic?

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >zircumcized

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Surprised Ukraine hasn't claimed they've shot these down with flak guns yet.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm so tired of ESL turdies like you commenting on my board.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    dude they added recently
    >approx. to be confirmed
    because people called their bullshit on the fact that for over a year now they kill no less than 900 russians every day

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >proven to be shit pretty much all of its lifetime
    God..... that ESL, anyway may I see the "proven to be shit" part?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you must be american i can smell the basic education on proper english from miles away

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but its pretty obvious you are a pajeet

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i was gonna ask for proofs but we both know you just gonna rage bait

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't talk about basic proper English education if you don't actually have any.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so you are calling me a pajeet because i dont use syntax?
            fricking lmao this is rich

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i think it's more the broken english, but of course you can't identify your own mistakes because your english sucks.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ramej... you just did same exactly errors that u highlighted there

                https://i.imgur.com/UZblpg1.jpg

                Don't talk about basic proper English education if you don't actually have any.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "did same exactly errors"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dvach CSS theme
            Vanya thinking he is slick lol lmaos

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    please explain to us what a fricking icbm with re entry speeds has to do with hypersonic missiles again?

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    remember, every single Russoid and their shills WILL die horrible death

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Kharkiv
    >We were able to cause partial blackouts in a city 33km from our border
    The bar really is on the fricking floor if you're gloating about this.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    a 100% interception rate over one city on one day does not imply a 100% interception rate everywhere else at all other times. i know russians play dumb as a means to insult opponents, but all it does is make them look genuinely stupid

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What you really want to do is to use a scaled down version the the Sprint ABM booster as a terminal phase. The idea is just when the enemy gets close with their interceptors the missile stages and then shoots up to mach 10 and stays that fast until it hits the target.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    @61273200
    >#@"did same exactly errors"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh dear

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why are you so obsessed with hohol butt? is this russian thing or are you a pidor?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a Russian thing. Russians must think about wieners and asses at any given time.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Man, even the gifs out of Russia have a shitty, aged look to them.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all those deleted postst
    Ivan is not having a good day.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ivan hasn't had a good day in a loooooooong time.
      This is both objectively morally correct and to be expected.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you, Janitor.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is a zircon? Is that whatever that British satellite conspiracy was?

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In case anyone wonders why the pajeet is butthurt, the krauts just sent another decent package. Five Warthog repair and recovery armored vehicles, nine Warthog command vehicles, one Dachs armored engineer vehicle, a pile of 105mm, 155mm and 40mm ammo, and 2,000 RGW 90 Matador.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IIRC there was also a UN report yesterday that found that yes, in fact, the Russians have been doing warcrimes all the frick over the place in occupied territory. Not that Russians care, but having an independent report like that makes it harder for them to pull an "is hohol lies!" about things (not that they won't anyways, but still).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s much, much too little. 18k shells is a drop in the bucket. I’m sure they need as many engineering vehicles as they can get and every few extra drones helps — but that’s not what they NEED, desperately, NOW. They need HUNDREDS of heavy SPGs, MILLIONS of shells, HUNDREDS of AD platforms, HUNDREDS of armored vehicles (at least!).

      I’m not hating on Europe or doing the Germany-bad thing, the fact is they’re poor and not financially able to just switch on a major MIC increase at the snap of the fingers. Biden’s lack of use of Lend-Lease (not one cent was used by it) may have been a war-losing mistake.

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >most of the serious nations out there are developing hypersonics but here we are yet again with ukraine claiming outlandish shits about a system that is proven to be shit
    https://thediplomat.com/2024/01/china-evaluates-russias-use-of-hypersonic-daggers-in-the-ukraine-war/
    https://www.businessinsider.com/china-russia-kinzhal-hypersonic-missiles-disappointed-ukraine-dongfeng-war-2024-1

    >Analyzing its maneuverability, the Chinese analyst observes, “The degree to which it can change its ballistic trajectory cannot be compared with that of a real hypersonic missile, and it seriously lacks the ability to maneuver laterally.”
    >this Chinese defense analyst next admits: “There is more and more evidence showing that what the U.S. and Ukraine say on this matter is true.”

    Frick off, vermin, even Chang is shitting on you.

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Your average US Patriot or French-Italian SAMP/T can take on those flying sausages
    So what you're telling me is that a large russian sausage attempted to penetrate an undefended ukrainian rear, but was instead obliterated by a local patriot? If only the russians could keep their own rears so well protected, I heard they've been experiencing many such unwanted penetrations...

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