I dont know, but from the reasearch Ive found online, 7.62 Tok in a blowback gun needs a bolt weight somewhere between what 9mm and 40 S&W needs. Ruger made their PC Carbine in 40 S&W, and didnt want to do 45 ACP cuz they said itd be too heavy or something. But since 40 S&W is acceptable to them I have to imagine a blowback 7.62 carbine isnt too hard to make.
My main issue with 7.62 Tok is so much of the available ammo seems to be corrosive.
I wonder if a delayed blow-back or a gas operated one could work. Sort of like a mini AR-18. The issue with modern 7.62 Tok is the same issue with modern .45-70, 10mm, and even some .40 S&W load offerings - only semi-boutiques/boutiques actually make them in real full power. Plus I'd imagine Tok is more popular in places like Asia and Europe where there are more choices in pistols for them.
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delayed blowback should definitely work, since Ive seen that used from 9mm to 308, and there could be more.
gas operated not sure, Im afraid it would eat up too much velocity but really not sure. I think delayed blowback would be ideal, but straight blowback should work fine for something cheap. Though, I do kind of hate my straight blowback 9mm due to how heavy it is. But if the weight came with a higher velocity more powerful round, Id be more OK with it.
>low price=le good
I heard .22lr is pretty cheap these days too >import bans
That's why they need to start making it here
I dont know, but from the reasearch Ive found online, 7.62 Tok in a blowback gun needs a bolt weight somewhere between what 9mm and 40 S&W needs. Ruger made their PC Carbine in 40 S&W, and didnt want to do 45 ACP cuz they said itd be too heavy or something. But since 40 S&W is acceptable to them I have to imagine a blowback 7.62 carbine isnt too hard to make.
My main issue with 7.62 Tok is so much of the available ammo seems to be corrosive.
I wonder if a delayed blow-back or a gas operated one could work. Sort of like a mini AR-18. The issue with modern 7.62 Tok is the same issue with modern .45-70, 10mm, and even some .40 S&W load offerings - only semi-boutiques/boutiques actually make them in real full power. Plus I'd imagine Tok is more popular in places like Asia and Europe where there are more choices in pistols for them.
Making 7.62 Tok popular again seems like something KelTec can do. If they can make a gun to revive .32 so can they revive 7.62
It's basically a proof of concept on using AR triggers and printed frames (which is what the 3d printing community has decided to standardize on) but damn does it suck ass as a stop gap until whoever comes up with a good print design for a given parts kit. As for the caliber it's clearly a range toy so just go .22tcm.
its a 1911 slide
a lower that holds a mag in the correct spot
an ar 15 fcg with modified hammer to hit the firingpin
theyev done this with other pistol slides and uppers like mac 10s
I think it's a great way to utilize cheap $200 1911 parts kits from Sarco for literally anything, until tech becomes advanced/cheap enough for people to print out legitimate 1911 frames that can hold up to more than a handful of pops.
It's hideous aside from that, but I'm sure it's effective nonetheless.
I think it is cool as shit! It's like a little PDW only uglier. If someone actually made and sold these I would probably buy one.
>What caliber should it be in?
22LR, 9mm, or 10mm. getting or building a Semi-automatic pistol in anything else is stupid unless it is a range toy or a revolver.
"Flux Raider at home."
7.62 because there are not enough 7.62 choices
Stupid irrelevant caliber
its literally the best pistol cartridge
7.62 Tok Skorpian would be a fun little machine pistol... Why hasn't anyone made one or my moronic brain not looking up its existence?
I dont know, but from the reasearch Ive found online, 7.62 Tok in a blowback gun needs a bolt weight somewhere between what 9mm and 40 S&W needs. Ruger made their PC Carbine in 40 S&W, and didnt want to do 45 ACP cuz they said itd be too heavy or something. But since 40 S&W is acceptable to them I have to imagine a blowback 7.62 carbine isnt too hard to make.
My main issue with 7.62 Tok is so much of the available ammo seems to be corrosive.
I wonder if a delayed blow-back or a gas operated one could work. Sort of like a mini AR-18. The issue with modern 7.62 Tok is the same issue with modern .45-70, 10mm, and even some .40 S&W load offerings - only semi-boutiques/boutiques actually make them in real full power. Plus I'd imagine Tok is more popular in places like Asia and Europe where there are more choices in pistols for them.
delayed blowback should definitely work, since Ive seen that used from 9mm to 308, and there could be more.
gas operated not sure, Im afraid it would eat up too much velocity but really not sure. I think delayed blowback would be ideal, but straight blowback should work fine for something cheap. Though, I do kind of hate my straight blowback 9mm due to how heavy it is. But if the weight came with a higher velocity more powerful round, Id be more OK with it.
>stupid irrelevant caliber
5.7 is down the hall
Cope. 5.7 is dropping hard in price. 7.62 tok will forever be cucked by import bans
>low price=le good
I heard .22lr is pretty cheap these days too
>import bans
That's why they need to start making it here
Making 7.62 Tok popular again seems like something KelTec can do. If they can make a gun to revive .32 so can they revive 7.62
It looks fricked up. I'm sure it's great, but goddamn.
It's basically a proof of concept on using AR triggers and printed frames (which is what the 3d printing community has decided to standardize on) but damn does it suck ass as a stop gap until whoever comes up with a good print design for a given parts kit. As for the caliber it's clearly a range toy so just go .22tcm.
As a proof of concept, I get it. As an actual weapon, it's poopy.
What is that, the Pepe Liberator?
its a 1911 slide
a lower that holds a mag in the correct spot
an ar 15 fcg with modified hammer to hit the firingpin
theyev done this with other pistol slides and uppers like mac 10s
I think it's a great way to utilize cheap $200 1911 parts kits from Sarco for literally anything, until tech becomes advanced/cheap enough for people to print out legitimate 1911 frames that can hold up to more than a handful of pops.
It's hideous aside from that, but I'm sure it's effective nonetheless.
I prefer making 1911s out of bb guns.
The Supreme Court said Gcode is free speech right?
If that’s the case I can program a cnc machine to make a modified one of these out of aluminum for you guys
I can’t make them in America
it'd be more interesting if they could adapt it to use double stack mags instead
until then nah i'd rather just buy an actual 1911
I think it is cool as shit! It's like a little PDW only uglier. If someone actually made and sold these I would probably buy one.
>What caliber should it be in?
22LR, 9mm, or 10mm. getting or building a Semi-automatic pistol in anything else is stupid unless it is a range toy or a revolver.
>They're still short-recoil tilting barrel
what is, the PC Carbine? If thats what youre saying, I think you are confusing with the LC Carbine.