$300 for an EXPS3/T2 killer

Why do people willing let themselves get gaped by middlemen?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are you mad, is it a money thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      rich or poor, being ok with being ripped off makes you a fucking idiot. noose more.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks cool as hell.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mount breaks
    JUsT aS gUD

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    does not have green reticle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Holosun
        >$500
        KEK, no.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I got mine for $350.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's a $400 optic. You know, the same price as an Aimpoint PRO or Eotech 512, optics that have a combat record, not just the reddit consensus.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no combat record
      funny you should say that

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >need I say more?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Choosing the best sight

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have any of you retards actually used one of these unironically? I kind want to put one on one of my retro ARs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        in 2019 when i first got involved with uspsa they were still popular but have pretty much died out by now. Old shooters from the 90s were very invested in them because of their modularity and they were pretty decent when they first came out but theyre very dated now and are a rarity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i've got one, yeah
        kinda want to throw it on my calico

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes had one for years. kinda echo what

        in 2019 when i first got involved with uspsa they were still popular but have pretty much died out by now. Old shooters from the 90s were very invested in them because of their modularity and they were pretty decent when they first came out but theyre very dated now and are a rarity.

        said.

        There was a time when they were awesome but the company never really kept up with the times and it's been replaced by better options

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely fragile and temperature sensitive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      go away armatard

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's great for the price, and checks a lot of boxes, but it still doesn't have the clarity of the topshelf brands. If you want the best, you still need to pay for it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This yours?
      Ive been wondering if it was a good idea to take that back protective cover off my AEMS since you can't use the magnifier with it down anyways.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This sums it up. The biggest difference is in the glass clarity.
      Although the glass is so thick on rmr's that the distortion is a little worse the then 509t that I have.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I know NV capability and durability factors matter
    You hit the nail on the head. If you want an AEMS then buy it.
    Under NV it is better than my PRO but not as good as my micro. I also think button interfaces are dumb vs just having a dial. We all have to draw a line somewhere though, and $400 (or $300 for a CORE) vs $700 for a T2 is not a small gap for a lot of people. It's okay that the AEMS is not the best, since it is still really good for its price.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's kind of what I was saying. I think the AEMS is fine in its price class. Is it the best red dot you can buy? No, I do not think so but that doesn't immediately mean that the AEMS is bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is one of the biggest problems today. If you don't have the absolute and undisputed best of anything, everyone thinks its trash. There are varying degrees of quality and something can just be good or okay.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's 400 and Eotechs suck anyway.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    From specifically a clarity of the window standpoint no its not, but it is really close. Close enough that once you factor in Eotech "reliability", weight, battery preferences, etc you may decide that you would rather sacrifice that clarity and get the AEMS. If it is a work gun or shooting under NV is something really important to you I'd just recommend saving up for a T2 over either of them.
    I don't have experience with the HS512, just the 403, 503, and AEMS. The AEMS is leagues ahead of the 403 and 503 Holosuns I have since their notch filters are both noticeably more blue under daylight and they do not pass ambient light near as well/almost none at all under NV. In fact they are dark enough under NV you would want to use an illuminator with them for targets smaller than the window at which point you may as well just use your LAM.

    This is one of the biggest problems today. If you don't have the absolute and undisputed best of anything, everyone thinks its trash. There are varying degrees of quality and something can just be good or okay.

    I agree, especially once night vision enters the conversation as justification. People forget that only a small percentage of gun owners even have I2 night vision or a place to shoot with it. While Holosun may not be just-as-good it can certainly be good enough depending on your usage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's good enough, 503s are useable under nods. GBRS uses 507s in their nvg videos and plenty of Holosun's on SOFs/soldiers with duals in Ukraine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >people who are paid to promote holosun promote holosun
        Wow!
        Next you'll find out IV8888 doesn't really like *brand* that much.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Usable within an envelope. Most of the online videos/pictures I've seen demonstrate their use in optimum conditions, high-light suburban environments, or just on torso targets at room distances where seeing through the window doesn't matter, just having an aiming point in space is good enough.
        When it's truly dark at range then the light transmission of the window and ability to get the emitter super dim really matters. IMO the 503 doesn't cut it in that environment. That being said, someone could just as easily say that my rural usage at range with passive aiming isn't common so my opinions don't not matter.
        Buy what matters or is good enough for your usage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey ethan

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >its not a holographic
    >exps3 killer
    picrel is you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      An optic being holographic or reflex doesn't matter. Except that holographic optics are heavier and worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is the kind of retarded takes I come to PrepHole for. Imagine thinking that LEDs are a straight upgrade when they're caveman technology the chinese can't replicate.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          *when they're caveman technology and the chinese can't replicate holographics

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You doctired this, i can tell by the pixels. Fucking nerd.
            Captcha: RMXNGR

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They do have Holographics, China won't export them. Trust me they're way better than a fucking Eotech.
            >T.Chink who shot all the new chink shit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Trust me
              No Chang. I don't think i will.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              interesting if true

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Is it just me or does that stock look like it's one sharp pull's worth of pressure from folding downwards and breaking catastrophically?

              Also Chinkanon how do you feel about the new 191?
              I saw a blog post by a critic (not western, one of your fellow Hua people or whatever) and translated it, and he seemed to think it was a piece of shit. He had a bunch of valid criticisms as far as I could tell, he was big mad about the whole platform.
              For instance, he was pointing out how in testing spent cases kept getting caught in the ejection port so instead of re-designing the bolt and extractor they just hand-filed the port larger where the cases were getting stuck until the gun functioned reliably, which is why the ejection port on final guns has the weird little enlargement machined into the top of the ejection port towards the rear.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sure thing bugman

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ignorant anon here
            is he showing that as long as the barrel is pointing at the target the sight will stay on it regardless of your eye position ?
            if so would the sight move off target in a cheaper optic as your head moves ?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              basically , I dont need to get my eyes , head in the perfect spot, just be pointing at target and sight will be on target ?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              basically , I dont need to get my eyes , head in the perfect spot, just be pointing at target and sight will be on target ?

              Yes, its called parallax shift. That video is actually showing a bit of shift from the AEMS, which is unusual because I cant replicate it unless Im within a range that pretty much all red dots experience parallax shift.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                thx anon. I bought cheap just to put something on while I drill myself to get safety down. ( its been quite a few yers ) And the dot moves with your head or eyes. Which is ok, it was 50 bucks and is serving its purpose for now.
                Looking at either LPVO or a fixed scope and an offset 1x reflex , or piggyback. Honestly it seems you would want a 1x in primary position.
                What is the best way to look through diff optics in realistic ( a 100 yards or so of open space ) situation
                Will firing range let you try diff optics ?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I cant replicate it unless Im within a range that >pretty much all red dots experience parallax >shift.
                so shorter distance, more shift ?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Technically yes, but no, let me explain.
                Most red dots have parallax "Set" to 100 yards.
                This means that at 100 yards, there should be no parallax, with increasing amounts at close range.
                If you set your optic a few feet from a wall, and mount it to something steady, it'll look like there's a lot of parallax, but that's unrealistic given how close it is to the target.
                Of course, a 4 MOA shift at 25 yards means a shift of just one inch... not much. 4 MOA at 100 yards is 4 inches... more noticeable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think I see, though it looks like a lot ( noticeable movement ) , it really isnt, the distance it shifts relative to the target when at close range is not that much.
                Did not know they " set " parallax. Have some reading to do. Thx again

                thx again. down.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Imagine thinking that LEDs are a straight upgrade
          They are.
          >when they're caveman technology the chinese can't replicate.
          I think you stumbled over your extra chromosome there, the Chinese can indeed replicate LED technology.

          If you're actually stupid enough to think holographic tech is some amazing thing, fucking Russians make holographic optics, it's nothing special at all.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >holographics don't have much parallax
        >red dots have to be presented just correctly to not hit too far to the right left up or down due to how a user holds it.
        y r u gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >holographics don't have much parallax
          >red dots have to be presented just correctly to not hit too far to the right left up or down due to how a user holds it.
          That's not true though.
          >b-but one particular holographic is very slightly better than one particular red dot!
          That's the reality, but you'd sound really fucking dumb if you told the truth. You're probably not even lying on purpose, you're just too fucking stupid to know better.

          The bigger issue is of course thermal drift will affect holoraphics to a much greater degree, so you won't be having POI at your POA anyway, lmao

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$300 for a holosun
    Yea, no thanks. Holosuns run out of value at about $150.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So here's the thing
    I'm just not gonna buy chinkshit
    I know
    I know
    But I'm just not gonna buy it
    BWAHAHAHAH

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    EXPS3 killer? LMFAO.
    EXPS3 by far is still the superior optic. Even the vortex uh-1 gen 2 is.
    Stop being tarded, it's a fucking holosun

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Even the vortex uh-1 gen 2 is.
      That thing sucks. You're high.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a chinese piece of shit that is actually a fugly red dot and not a holographic sight, kys chink

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Every retard in the world says "American optics are da best"
    >Look at EOTech
    >Delaminates still
    >Look at Trijicon / EOTech scopes
    >Absolute dogshit glass quality for $1,500+
    >Vortex
    >Dogshit glass quality
    >Look at all American made LPVO's
    >"Best standards, best manufacturing standards, tested like no other"
    >It's made out of the same fucking block of aircraft aluminum just as chinkshit is
    >Process is all the fucking same
    >All you're paying for is name and minimum wage
    Bought a flip scope, better glass quality than all the shit I've looked through, get fucked. Maybe we had the best optics at one point, but at this point it's just blind cock sucking and holding onto a brand name.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >posted by yellow fingers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Telescopes have been around since the 1600s but only America has perfected it!
        >STOP BUYING THINGS NON-AMERICAN!!
        lol.
        Lmao even.
        Some of the best optics come from Germany and Chinks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have never looked through an acog

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You've never looked through a fixed magnification!
        lmao
        learn2optics fucking dumb garden gnome moron.
        Fixed magnification/primes are the easiest to manufacture because of less glass needed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      anyone who actually knows anything about optics runs either Leupold or euro glass when it comes to LPVOs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who knows anything about glass runs price/performance. No amount of "made in X" or price will change that. Glass polishing, coating, and the likes has been known forever now. It's only the Chinese who recently caught on and that was a few years ago. I know you want to cope, but I'm a professional photographer and do this shit every day of my life. Making clear glass isn't hard and with camera technologies that gap has been closed significantly. The rest is an aluminum housing and etching.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bull fucking shit they do.

        Leupold is junk, stem to stern. There are good euro optics (older Zeiss and older S&B, for example), but there is also a lot of junk (Swaro, new Zeiss, etc).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So what's a good budget LPVO? Gimme some high performers

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Leupold is better than any chink shit any day.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer the crispness of the horosun reticle because I look through it in my moms basement and never actually shoot

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does one exist without the retarded meme riser?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I sigh hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mount breaks
      JUsT aS gUD

      Most of them use aimpoint micro footprint, the AEMS is proprietary but ADM made a QD mount

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe I like for my rectum to have a draft.

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