>3-5 bottleneck rounds depending on the manufacturer or your personal preference
>4x or 6x scope
>Comfy wooden stock and leather sling
Do you really need anything more than that and a double shotgun for smaller game?
>3-5 bottleneck rounds depending on the manufacturer or your personal preference. >4x or 6x scope
Also, not necessarily .243, I'd rather buy a .308 or .30-06 because it's always good to have extra punch and heavier bullet when you go against dangerous game
>Do you really need anything more
lower height rings, apparently
>silly ass rings tall enough to be see-through for iron sight use
seriously, lol
if you want to use irons or stripper clips i legitimately think this is a better solution
Why not just use quick detach mounts, like pivot mount?
Doesn't look as cool. Aesthetics should always outweigh functionality
What do you mean? Pivot mount is aesthetic as frick.
Side-mounted scope is more steampunk& metal. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, though. Happy hunting anon
You could also use a swinging mount
You don't.
However it doesn't look tactical enough for the American market. Because Americans have been convinced that straight plastic stocks, no ironsights, various plastic parts (trigger guard, trigger group, detachable magazines...) which are cheaper to make, are somehow superior (the infamous "American" branded rifles, example CZ American).
Gun companies, looking to make higher margins by reducing the cost to make their guns, have somehow convinced the American public that cheap shit is desirable, and the old milled steel receiver, the ergonomic wood stucks and iron sights are "outdated".
I own a 70 years old sporterized Mauser in 7x64 that I bought for next to nothing. I hunt just as well with it as anyone else. Turns out plastic stocks and AICS plastic magazines don't make your guns more accurate.
Fast manufacturing, like fast food and contemporary fashion, was a disaster for humankind.
New CZ models look like crap and feel like crap. Both 550 and 557 are superior to 500
moron.
Walnut and blued steel is still a widely loved combo all over the world including america. But keep living in your fantasy world where everyone but you is incapable of seeing beauty and you’re the center of the world.
You do realize you can just not buy cheap ugly rifles, right? Turkish tacticool semi auto shotguns have flooded the market here but people are still hanging on to their beretta over unders and old hunting rifles. Detachable box magazines are cool.
Iron sights are a bit outdated for certain purposes (large scope aperture help old people with shot placement in poor light conditions, but irons are good enough for humane shots). Wood stocks may warp with moisture, but probably won’t if you take care of it.
It’s about time you grow up and realize that “Sovl” isn’t dead or dying and you’re not special.
They’re a bit similar to the 16 year old kids who always talk about how classical or 80s music is better and everything modern is garbage and act superior because they’ve got it all figured out.
No homosexual, you’re not a poor misunderstood artist in a society of decline because you listen to Mozart
>where everyone but you is incapable of seeing beauty
Lots of people are indeed incapable of it.
>You do realize you can just not buy cheap ugly rifles, right?
You do realise that it's not up to you to choose what gets produced and what gets discontinued? Traditional model of supply and demand doesn't exactly work today anymore.
>16 year old kids who always talk about how classical or 80s music is better and everything modern is garbage
And they're unironically correct. The lyrics, the music, the way music clips were made, old pop music was superior to current day pop.
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Got your graveyard square booked, gramps?
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American and European hunting are very different sports with different demographics. Sure you've got some mallninja types, but the majority of those plastic guns are cheap Ruger Americans and stuff like that, bought by people who genuinely can't afford anything nicer, and who would never even THINK of hunting if they were Europeans of the same social class. Others are people who hunt on extended trips into vast rugged wilderness areas where a traditional gun would get trashed, places with no comparison in Europe outside the Scandinavian countries, where "American-style" synthetic stocks etc. are much more popular than in the rest of Europe.
I'd also bet that we still buy far more traditional wood and blued steel guns than Europe does, they just don't dominate the market in the same way because our conditions are different. As for milsurp, it's become much harder to get decent cheap guns over the last couple of decades, and ammo supplies have been drying up too. For most people getting into hunting, people who often aren't gun experts, it's much easier and safer just to buy a cheap plastic gun in a common hunting caliber instead of rolling the dice on a milsurp rifle.
This. I watch guys hunt in England and can't believe how different it is over there. A guy hunts foxes with a fricking Accuracy International (AWM/AWP/etc). Many others have real nice SxS shotguns that would be worth thousands here. I watched a guy with a pump bubba it JB Welding a rail to it because pumps are seen as "not nice" over there and no one hunts with them. Even old SxSs that would be worth over 1k over here are seen as "meh" and no one buys them at auction because they've been used in semi-rough conditions and need a little TLC to get back to looking presentable instead of looking like a real work gun, something you drag through brush and let the finish wear a little. Meanwhile they hack up front sights to thread every .22 they can. But the guy you're replying to is baiting so none of this matters.
>Even old SxSs that would be worth over 1k over here are seen as "meh" and no one buys them at auction because they've been used in semi-rough conditions
Considering that most of them are wealthy landowners and to them hunting is more of a social event where you must perform according to tradition and show off your wealth, it's not surprising. Kinda wasteful if you ask me. Here a slightly used antique Purdey costs 2 million roubles, and it comes with its own wooden case.
And two scopes for each rifled barrel
>double shotgun
I once thought the same as you, back when I bought an O/U for duck hunting. Several missed opportunities due to a lack of a 3rd shot later, I hung it up and bought a Browning A5. Turns out I was completely justified right at the end of season when a group of 5 mallards cupped up and fell in on my corner of the blind. Once they got down to about eye level, I raised up and folded all three greenheads out of the group, one right after the other. Only thing that could have made my day even better would have been seeing a glint of silver on one of their legs, but I absolutely can't complain about a triple.
You could get even more opportunities with a Saiga 12 and a 10 rounds mag.
He should consider full auto saiga 12 and a 40 rounds drum mag. Total duck death.
I live in Alaska where it rains like frick and I am around salt water all the time so wood stocks and blued cromoly and leather goes to hell fast.
But basically that same concept but in stainless, carbon stock, and a polymer sling is pretty handy.
>alaska where it rains like frick
coastal alaska is just north seattle, you will never be a real alaskan
>stainless, carbon stock, and a polymer sling i
Ugly shit.
At least go for laminated stock and canvas sling
all you "need" is 3:
1x rifle round for small game
1x rifle round for medium to large game
1x shot
I'd prefer second smoothbore barrel instead,
I have eleven specifically hunting guns and thirteen guns I hunt with, when I first started hunting I was really into Chuck Hawks’ writing, and I bought guns based on various sizes of animals he wrote about, and a few more for situations he didn’t like (long range hunting), or that are just for fun (handgun and muzzleloading)
Probably I could cut it down to 2 rifles and one shotgun if we’re being honest.
But as it stands I shoot and load (except for the rimfire) .17HM2, .17 Hornady Hornet, .204 ruger, .243 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .300 win mag, 12 gauge slugs (nearby state is shotgun only), and 12 gauge shot from a bolt action (for turkey), and a 12 gauge semi for waterfowl, birds, etc
I also have a 460 magnum, a 350 legend single shot, for handgun hunting, and two muzzle loaders, a 58 rifle and a 44 revolver that I use.
I could get pretty much everything done with the .243 and the 12 gauge semi, if I had to choose
Best hunting rifle since 1930s.
And then people who enjoy Mosins, SKSs, Lee-Enfields, Mannlichers, Winchester 94s and other non-Mauser derivatives should get mad.