I’ve wanted a Ruger Mark IV so badly, but it can’t reliably cycle quiets/subsonics in general. Is a 22LR revolver a good idea then? Preferably not single action ones as they are too slow. What do you think?
picrel: Aguila Colibri
22LR revolvers
I’ve wanted a Ruger Mark IV so badly, but it can’t reliably cycle quiets/subsonics in general. Is a 22LR revolver a good idea then? Preferably not single action ones as they are too slow. What do you think?
picrel: Aguila Colibri
I think the cylinder gap will make noise. A bolt gun seems ideal.
They seem reasonably quiet: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGTfe9LzL8
One time I took a bolt action .22 out of the wood stock so it just looked like a metal pipe and I walked around the yard shooting subsonic rounds into the dirt and nobody noticed
(I needed the brass because my dad just bought a rough rider and I wanted to give him some empty cartridges to dry fire with)
i run cbs through my s&w 63 all the time. they're quiet, accurate and adequately powerful enough for garden pests. i shoot them in my basement all the time. if you don't care about cost and you want a .22 pistol that'll be good for everything, get a 63. if you're already a good pistol shooter get a ruger lcrx 3" instead. it's lighter and cheaper but considerably harder to shoot in double action because of the light weight and 12lbs trigger. if you can find the new diamondback sidekick it looks like it'd be a good value if you can live without adjustable sights. theres the older h&r revolvers but they're not super reliable and the rock island al22 but i hear it's shit
idk, honestly you'll probably just end up shooting single action mostly anyways so you might want to reconsider a cheap single action. rimfire requires pretty heavy hammer spring tension so you're either going to have a long heavy trigger or shit reliability so sa isn't really much slower
Revolvers are noisy. Buy a Heritage Rough Rider .22lr. They're cheep like $140 MSRP and you can tell!
It shits high velocity gasses from the cylinder gap. Except one revolver. A unique and special and Slavic one.
So subsonics are mostly made for bolt action because revolves are noisier due to the gap between the cylinder and the barrel? (a short barrel length)
What exactly from Volquartsen?
Semi-auto .22lr psitols always have a price jump.
manual actions are usually:
>SAA/DA revolver
>break action
>bolt action
in the firearm category there are:
>mare's leg .22lr in lever, pump or anything else you want to cut down.
>conversion kits
Spend $1400 on a Volquartsen and it will cycle anything.
The Ruger Mk.4 may potentially cycle subs with some aftermarket parts.
Volquartsen what? They make a lot of stuff, including parts for guns like Ruger's .22's, along with their own guns. Seems like a high quality brand overall.
.22LR pistols are simply loud for what they are, you're looking at something which is almost as loud as a 9mm pistol, rifle length barrels gives you a much more complete burn and it's just not nearly as loud (mind, not hearing safe with typical ammo).
It's a little bit like with .223 Remington, be it a 20" barrel or a 10" barrel, both will be earsplittingly loud, but that short 10" carbine is going be extra loud and concussive, and not give you nearly as much velocity.
Subsonics will be quieter in a .22LR pistol, but what you really want if you're looking for a quiet gun, is simply a silencer. Given the modest nature of .22LR, a decent silencer doesn't have to be very expensive (but there's always the $200 tax in the US, so there's that).
>silencer
they’re banned where I live.
i fired some sub sonic 22 quiets out of my TX22, that shit's still loud as frick, out of my 20" 22 rifle they sound like an airgun
you need a suppressor to make them hearing safe even with subsonics with a pistol
.32 acp beretta bearcat has a variant that is threaded. Failing that get a 1911 in fuddy five, its a great suppressed platform since its naturally subsonic.
I have never tried colibris, but I did shoot the Aguila blue box subsonics in my Colt New Frontier. They weren’t any quieter than regular .22 ammo
Subsonics can be very quiet out of a gun with a long barrel even when unsuppressed. You might want to look into a bolt action .22 with a 28” barrel like the Cz 457 Jaguar.
>it can’t reliably cycle quiets/subsonics in general
give up now, stop prioritizing noise. even if you got your perfect host that cycles subs its still going to be loud it wont be as loud as it could be but any guns going to make noises. just buy the gun you want.
gotchs
You try Aguila SSSs in it?
>is 22 subsonic ammo (eg. CCI quiets) that much quieter than standard 22lr?
No. It's a lot quieter than the excessive shit like CCI Velocitors, but not by as much as you'd think even out of a pistol.
Compared to some plain standard velocity hollow-points, it's not impressive, sounds "different" but not particularly "quieter." In exchange, you get a dirtier gun.
Given the choice, shooting without ear-pro, sure, subs will be less tiring to your ears over a day of plinking. Very small difference though.
With a can, then it matters. Throw a can on there and subs are the difference between cracks and whispers. Without a can, you're splitting hairs and shooting sub-par ammo.
Very few places in the world where cans are legal lol
They're legal in America and Northern Europe, and those are the only places that matter
You want a super quiet revolver, get something chambered in .38S&W. It's spooky how quiet it is.
You can shoot .38 Smith & Wesson out of any .38 Special or .357 Magnum gun, and like .22 Long Rifle, I would not consider it hearing safe.
The only time .22 Long Rifle would be hearing safe without a suppressor would be from a rifle in a large open field with no nearby surrounding hills, houses, or trees. I don't know why people wanna gamble with or wear away their hearing with this shit, get electronic earpro if silencers aren't legal where you live.
>You can shoot .38 Smith & Wesson out of any .38 Special or .357 Magnum gun
No you can't, you fricking tard
Not him but out of some revolvers you can, which is why the idea exists and is half wrong half right. Paul Harrel has a video on it and also .38 super which fits in some revolver but not all revolvers.
Then Paul Harrell is a fricking tard. .38S&W is a fatter bullet with a much lighter load. If you try that shit, you're gonna get a squib.
When does he do that with 38 S&W? I saw the 38 super video but I don't remember seeing anything with 38 S&W.
There's less of a dimensional difference between .38 Super and .38 Special in terms of projectile size, also that thing was a matter of stacking tolerances, different guns and different brands of ammunition, where in some cases it actually fits.
Some cursory Googling shows .38 Smith & Wesson as having a larger projectile than both, so I'm assuming that was .38 Short Colt I remembered, or perhaps it was smaller caliber projectiles in a .38 Smith & Wesson case (it was handloaded).
I really appreciate you putting in the effort to take a picture to prove my dumb ass wrong, by the way.
Then I'm thinking of .38 Short Colt
It was one of the really old and really weak .38s
Unless you're shooting out of a rifle, these are still very loud
I am pretty sure most 22lr is subsonic out of a pistol barrel
I'm really having a hard time deciding if I want a .22 revolver or pistol. Maybe if I get a .22 magnum revolver I can shoot both magnum and lr, which sounds cool. But everyone I know with a .22 pistol has an SR22 and they're pretty happy with them, they seem pretty cool.
Revolvers can shoot .22 Short, which is a fun novelty, and they're dirt cheap, plus you can get the magnum cylinders like you said
Pistols are generally nicer to shoot, but more expensive
I'm having a dilemma on this issue too, especially since good handguns don't come cheap. My solution is to go for a double action revolver because this would solve any cycling issues that 22LR present. I don't really need a handgun tho, but since I have a 22LR bolt action, I figured a semi automatic/double action handgun would be a nice complement to a bolt action in terms of rate of fire. Question is, which revolver?
The colibri shit is basically just primer only. With even a 9mm suppressor on my p17, it's so quiet it's literally not even louder than what a co2 airsoft gun would be. Hilarious quiet. Subsonic CCI is like clapping, this is like snapping your fingers under a blanket lmao.