>2023 bizarro world
>coffin draped in American flag carried home by Ukrainian BMP-2s after exchange with Russians
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>2023 bizarro world. >coffin draped in American flag carried home by Ukrainian BMP-2s after exchange with Russians
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Forgot link. The whole exchange was interesting. Never seen one in nearly full length before.
Talk about weapons and gear in the vid, I guess, if you want.
i can't even tell what was going on during the exchange, were Ukrainians wearing white armbands? it looked like there were about a dozen ukie soldiers with no ruskie one present.
get your eyes checked
are they just super bright yellow or something? buddy had a white armband with a ukrainian flag on the back of his helmet
Well, their BMPs also carried white flags, so I'm guessing the white arm bands do not mean Russians, but just the "neutral" flag.
Can someone translate this from slavic into human?
One of the rare cool videos posted in this shithole.
We don't deserve you anon.
>No subtitles
Lame, especially when 90% of the video is people talking.
It was kind of cute and bizarro seeing Prigozhin going all the way to get an US flag in the middle of Bakhmut to use it on the coffin. (He also found a Turkish one for the other coffin). He was pretty chill and didn't go full mad about muh NATO mercenaries. He knew that one single thing out of place with that corpse and he would be droned anywhere in the world.
you missed the part where when wagner found the corpse he made a video ridiculing the corpse. Prigozhin is very good at politicking
Did they ridicule it? The video i saw they just filmed his body and showed his ID documents to prove his identity. They didnt do anything to the corpse
>Prigozhin going all the way to get an US flag in the middle of Bakhmut to use it on the coffin
It was $5.99 off Aliexpress. Free delivery.
if AliExpress actually offers free one day delivery to the middle of Bakhmut I'm not even mad, just impressed
AliExpress is more like
Product: $2.83
Shipping: $6.45
Delivery Timing: 2 weeks - 6 months
Prigozhin is defiantly laying the ground work for himself to have some future after the conflict. Wouldn't be terribly surprised if he has a box full of flags for just these occasions.
>he's a caterer
>in the world of caterer, your word means everything
>if he says dinner will be served at 5PM, it will be
>if he says he'll return the body with an American flag, it will be
The Caterer, starring Prigozhin, coming next summer to theaters near you.
Would pirate and watch.
He has all his ISIS buddies and CAR gold mines.
And he has all the bots now hyping him up as the only honest, strong man left in Russia.
Somehow I doubt he'll make it though.
>He was pretty chill and didn't go full mad about muh NATO mercenaries
You mean competition?
Prigozhin's a good guy, just misunderstood.
one struggle.
He just knew which way the wind's blowing and wanting to get on our good side.
That was the whole point, so you alike would feel better abiot mafioso, whos personal army murdered thousands of civilians.
>so you alike would feel better abiot mafioso
he does that shit because he wants to position himself as the next leader of russia.
He tried to gain favor with the unwashed russian hoards, the US glowBlack folk and the chink diplomats
Truth is, he is just a lying, corrupt, degenerate butthole like any other russian subhuman.
Black person tried to get a deal with the ukis where he would get bhakmut (for more publicity) and ukrainians would get the coordinates of russian army positions
tldr. never believe a russian.
>one single thing out of place with that corpse and he would be droned anywhere in the world
lol
lmao
>white flag
Look, the holhols are surrendering to the brave Musicians with their tanks and by killing an American as an offering of peace *~~*~~
>exchanging bodies and prisoners under a flag of truce is a foreign concept to the vatnik
>TARS, reset humor and intelligence to 80% from 0%.
>Starves your grandparents
>They wished for shit down there throats
Lol
Lmao
Poor Russians
Stalinism died with Stalin for everyone except the most autistically moronic tankies. Enjoy your irrelevance.
Same vibe?
cool it with the anti semitism you fascist zigger c**t.
F.
Holy frick THIS is the actual seating position inside a BMP??? What the FRICK where they thinking when they designed this piece of shit???
designed by russians, pls understand
The meat ERA protects the central fuel tanks.
>The meat ERA
Expendable, Replaceable, Ablative?
ExpenDAble Russian Armor.
>What the FRICK where they thinking when they designed this piece of shit???
"How can we cram a squad of mobiks into an NBC sealed box so we can drive them to the Rhine while nukes rain down around them, also put an SPG-9 on top to kill M48 Pattons"
They thought how to make it amphibious (they just wrote that it is).
>where is muh counteroffensive?!
>nothing but giant puddles (nearly small ponds) and mud everywhere
Why do you think they tend to ride on top of these things, anon? The only russian IFV with a halfway good crew arrangement and exit scheme is the BMP-3M.
It's to enable use of the firing ports on either side of the BMP. It was a meme at the time because theorists on either side believed that they could opt to have their infantry fight from inside their vehicles, particularly during NBC operations so that the crews wouldn't be exposed to outside air. The Bradley has them too, but unlike the BMP it actually has room inside. However they found out that was moronic because those same infantry couldn't aim for shit in a moving vehicle, so APC/IFV designs ended up dropping them completely.
In fact I think the only instance I've ever seen of them being used was DPR fighters firing from inside a (still) BTR back in 2014.
Thanks anon. I guess that somewhat rationalizes the weird (by todays standards) layout. I still think that someone at the design bureau must have been thinking "this layout prevents the troops inside from seeing and talking to each other and prevents them from exchanging gear or applying first aid". It's weird that they still went with it, and didn't redesign it later to fix the pretty major problem
Soviet military science regards the common soldier as an expendable fighting robot to be exploited, they weren't big on human considerations.
There was a whole bunch of Russian videos from the start of the war involving mostly BTRs that demonstrated that the first instinct of professional Russian troops (this was before calling up the reservists and the mass mobilization) is to cram inside the BTR and wildly fire out of the ports. Or in one case, panic and wildly fire out of the rear door because it refused to close.
"We need fire ports to shoot at the other infantry who are also using firing port!s"
I heard they were designed with an obsession with being low to the ground for low profile. Plus treads because tanks are neat? I think the BMP's are just badly designed - shitty APC, shitty IFV, shitty tankette. Very vulnerable to mines.
i think ifvs in general are metal coffins for soldiers. but even more so for soviet ifvs. you'r back seat is literally gasoline
>i think ifvs in general are metal coffins for soldiers. but even more so for soviet ifvs. you'r back seat is literally gasoline
IFV fill that role between infantry and light tanks. Obviously MBT are big and cool but they also cost a lot and you'd bankrupt yourself if you put MBT everywehre. So you make light tanks. But then you need something intermediate to that too. Enter IFV. They support infantry with their big guns and can deploy troops. A light tank, IFV's, and infantry can storm a position.
They give the speed that Ukrainians need.
IFV aren't meant to fight tanks, but meant to fight infantry with infantry support. They show up, drop off some infantry, and provide cover and support fire.
Then why do so many of them get ATGMs?
Because 10lbs of munitions + wiring is a pretty cheap trade off to not have to instantly bail the moment there is a tank in the area, plus an ATGM is pretty good at fricking up heavy infantry emplacements.
Oh, on a vehicle-to-vehicle basis they are awful. But these were purely made for mass (and wartime) production, like everything else the Soviets made. To them, having technological inferiority to western IFVs wasn't that much of an issue if they could shit out 3 for every Bradley. And around the 70's-mid 80's the tech gap wasn't THAT large - BMP-2 on paper could go toe to toe with the early Bradley and defeat the Marder - even then its typical opponent was expected to be the humble M113. The firepower on the 2's and 3's is still nothing to laugh at (until it explodes of course) - Ukrainians early in the war reported just how punishing a hail of 30mm from a company's worth of BMPs is.
IMO the thin skin on the BMPs is what really kills them more than anything else - they fight by the company and then die by the company upon receiving any IDF. In our wargames it was pretty much mandatory to make sure that every MRC got hit with at least one fire mission; the first one (if 155mm, but mortars were also punishing) reduced them by 50% or more each time, allowong them to be defeated by platoons of even M113 riding infantry. Failure to do so meant getting overrun with that 30mm hailstorm - if it got within close range a Soviet MRC was probably the deadliest small formation on account of all that firepower... but so many things had to go right for them to actually get within said range intact.
>mid 80s
Let me scale that back to probably ~1982. The tech gap (with respect to ground forces) was pretty pronounced from there on.
computers and electronics made the tech gap.
>Muh numbers
>BMP-2 on paper could go toe to toe with the early Bradley and defeat the Marder
This is cope. Here's what happens in your scenario
>3 BMPs roll up within range of a Bradley
>Bradley sees bright pink silhouettes appear from behind a hill
>Bradley lases, FCS gives accurate range
>1st and 2nd BMPs brew up immediately before they have any idea what's going on
>by the time the 3rd sees the Bradley's vague position it only has a stadia reticle so it's still trying to get range when it also dies
>Even if it did somehow get a firing solution in time, the 30mm either misses completely or bounces at the range the Bradley engaged
>Bradley disengages and relocates to do it all over again
>early 80s bradley
>laser rangefinder
lol, lmao.
It does indeed have thermals though, so unless the BMP-2s already know where you are from recon units, you would likely get the drop on them.
There has been some specultaion that their tank-like appearance has given their operators a false sense of security. It really is their poor armor that makes them very weak. Total glass cannons. A lot of Soviet designs are perfectly fine, but BMP's are just a mess.
have the Ukies tried to outfit more armor on the ones they've captured?
Either side has been using improvised armor but no concrete up-armoring has been done. Main survival strategy for the Ukie BMP is simply "don't get hit in the first place". It's worth noting that Ukraine has lost over 100% of it's starting BMP-1s (and that over 100% is due to the large amount of Russian captures) but only 50% of their starting BMP-2s, it's the other way around for the Russians having lost a fraction of their 1's and a majority of their 2's.
>have the Ukies tried to outfit more armor on the ones they've captured?
this has been done consistently since bmp-1 in pretty much all operators. Even ziggers. Thing is, like german tanks of WW2, there is a limit how much the frame and engine can handle the exra weight
all of this and dont forge they were made in the era where crossing rivers with amphibs were all the rage. thus the thin skin as it was meant to be able swim across the rhine and other badzillion rivers running across euro
imagine drowning in one as it inevitably leaked due to shitty vatnig seals and the doors would not bulge half submerged since they are filled to the brim with either sand or fuel
there are escape hatches on the top tho
blocked by improvised cope cage
how low we talking?
Is the thing on the right a PT?
most likely yeah
The mine is in the ass.
This is what happens when you focus too much on a low and small profile
It made sense 60 years ago, when the trusty old Eyeball Mk.1 was the main sensor.
Wait until you find out that the doors are made of gasoline.
>Be American
>Get an XXL coffin
S
These are very shit coffins.
Fricking holes my god.
>coping about commies and israelites being the same
No, anon.
This war is so fricking based it’s unbelievable. Not only do we have total Slav death on both sides, we even get some total Redditor death aswell. Truly a 2 for one. I hope this war continues indefinitely and it claims over a trillion Ukrainian, Russian, and Redditor lives.
That does sound like a nice wholesome movie.
F for being a warrior
S for being a useless homosexual. What did he do to defend our own border?
I'm Johnny Cowboy from Texas Oblast, and I endorse this message.
Frank Hotdog here I agree
>What did he do to defend our own border?
Defending the US border is highly illegal, and if you try the US federal government will no-knock murder you.
And despite the fact that the US public have voted against policies producing this state of affairs for 80 years, every single person in the MSM and public bureaucracy miraculously are all of the minority opinion. How about them odds eh?
So when they no-knock murder you, they'll find themselves not guilty, and your name will be unspeakable in public, forever.
>What did he do to defend our own border?
Unironically, fighting Russia. What do you think causes these migrant hordes to wash upon the civilized world? Russian frickery in the Middle East and South America, that's what.
Wrong picture
man it really is a self-report of "who has Putin's fingies up their ass"
>all the turdie shitholes are absent
figures
China changed their stance in favour but still abstained on the resolution to condem Russia
Has there ever been a more unanimous vote at the UN?
>The right to food : resolution / adopted by the General Assembly in 2005
Reaffirms that hunger constitutes an outrage and a violation of human dignity; also reaffirms the right of everyone to have access to safe and nutritious food;
Why are burgers like this
We're unique in having seen what a constant, unending supply of food does to a nation.
Something that someone else is required to provide can't be a right.
positive rights don't exist
Do you really think that is real? Or that we don't know it's fake? You need to stop projecting your own thoughts onto others. You are subhuman. Try to remember that.
I still think about how the Russians spray painted "FOR BAKHMUT" on the side of the burned-out Humvee and thought that they they could fool people that the attackers had orignially painted it on, prior to the raid.
Ah yes, the indestructible humvees. Does this mean russians are moronic in their propaganda or are the russians accidentally making advertisements that will prop up the US military even more? Also reddit larp? By that logic, are the donbabweans and lugandans reddit larps too?
Literally every photo on the right is fake/staged lmao. Esp the AI generated one with "dead soldiers".
This pic is a self-own, considering that freedom of russia legion are still going on raids in Belgorod for shits and giggles
Is that the Golden Horde (TM)?
Who's that in the smaller coffin?
he’s trying to seem like the only honorable russian commander and stay off the west’s shitlist and GUR/SBU kill lists post war. like it’s been months since i’ve heard anything about egregious warcrimes from wagnerites, for instance.
he sees where the wind is blowing, but i suspect it won’t save him
He's already on the FBI's shitlist.
Wow, they sure are gonna make life hard for him if he ever emigrates to America
>muh homosex... blyACK-
>Code 200
Pity. She could've provided some much-needed... comfort to the lads.
Idk, I'm not saying I wouldn't but she's not all that attractive
Russians prefer men
imagine dying in a war and the only thing people remember you for is that you used to sell your nudes on the internet. that would be your sole legacy on this earth. what a bleak thought.
>and the only thing people remember you for is that you used to sell your nudes on the internet
Welcome to the majority of women younger than 30
>katsap
Wheres that
It's an anti-Russian slur. Less popular than pidor.
Surprised the Rusnigs have any women willing to fight for them, especially considering the Russian army is famous for turning female auxiliaries into forced prostitutes and comfort women for higher-ranking officers. They aren't subject to conscription or mobilization, so they have to volunteer.
I couldve saved her..
But Sir she got all the help she needed and is now a better person than before
dead Russians > breathing Russians
American coffin has 2.5x the volume as the Turkish one. Wtf
Also caring French flag
Devil worshipers USA and their western dogs getting what they deserve.