2022. >"we'll be delivering HIMARS to Ukraine any day now :)"

2022
>"we'll be delivering HIMARS to Ukraine any day now :)"
>suddenly ammo depots and similar strategic targets get lit the frick up all over the front
>"actually we delivered them a month ago :)"
2023-2024
>"we'll be delivering f16s to Ukraine any day now :)"
>suddenly "advanced" russian planes are going down left and right, russian air defense is absolutely shitting itself and even shooting their own side, the entire russian air force is in panic and disarray for seemingly no reason
I'm not falling for that one twice, f16s are definitely in Ukraine already

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the hell can you still underestimate Russian incompetence after hundreds of frick ups?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we fail to have the capacity for enough suspension of disbelief to recognize that Russia is even yet more pathetic than we could have possibly imagined.
      I'll try harder in the future.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's never good to underestimate your enemy but rusBlack folk are making it really hard not to

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I cannot stress this enough but for any North Americans if you want to know who bad modern day Russia is, they're literally lower than Mexico.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia still has 20% higher GDP per capita than the beaners

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who are the beaners?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          GDP is not the best metric to mesure the succes of a country

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's what we have

            https://i.imgur.com/YvxLlJO.jpg

            >Russia still has 20% higher GDP per capita than the beaners

            Wow 20% higher than $24,000. Very impressive (and costs of living 35% higher than Mexico). Mexico is also set to pass the Russian economy in 2025. Follow Intel Salsa Si for more info that RT wants to cover up!

            >$24,000
            ease up on the mescal there Jose
            >costs of living 35% higher
            according to the same source I presume

            https://i.imgur.com/5tSCxBN.jpg

            Braziu has bigger economy than russia with half of the population size of literal monkey-men.

            you too Alfonso

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Using prewar numbers
              As expected from slower chimps

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I know what postwar numbers really are like
                Elvira, stay away from windows

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia still has 20% higher GDP per capita than the beaners

          Wow 20% higher than $24,000. Very impressive (and costs of living 35% higher than Mexico). Mexico is also set to pass the Russian economy in 2025. Follow Intel Salsa Si for more info that RT wants to cover up!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Follow Intel Salsa Si
            Mucho Obrigado anon

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Follow Intel Salsa Si for more info that RT wants to cover up
            kek, gracias señor

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            mucho obligado señor

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Braziu has bigger economy than russia with half of the population size of literal monkey-men.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brazil has a bigger population thougheverbeit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick, I thought its 88 mil.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both countries are run by drug cartels, Maxico just spends less on heating.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wrong.
    BBC POC CNN destroyed all hohol f-16 with kinzal gipersonic missile 10km from poland border

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CONFIRMED OF DESTROYED ALREADY !!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oops, sorry my bad, it is a photo of a burned down F16 from 2019. not that anyone here thinks I’m a Vatnik perpetuing lies or anything

      https://www.rtbf.be/article/f-16-detruit-a-florennes-un-accident-comme-ca-c-est-presque-impossible-10043888

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-il-76-military-transport-plane-crashes-near-ukrainian-border-russian-2024-01-24/
    >shoot down russian plane
    >russians start claiming it carried ukrianian pows
    >into ukraine
    Why are they like this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-il-76-military-transport-plane-crashes-near-ukrainian-border-russian-2024-01-24/
      yeah i ve been thinking , it obv didn t carry ukrainian pow's but are they going to shoot 76 ukrainian pow's just because ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have probably already killed shitloads of Ukrainian POWs through mistreatment and neglect. The Russian treatment of POWs is brutal. They'll take the opportunity to hide the deaths as this most likely.

        https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1745438182429089917

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Considerably less. Somewhere around 13%. All for over 400,000 dead and many more to come. Wild.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how Ukrainian MOD asked its citizens not to "speculate" or distribute "rumors" about F-16, about a month ago? I do.
    Spoiler: it's not F-16, it's actually Mirage 2000. The French began a year earlier than the dutchies, Danes and belgians. F16 still take another 8 months.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I saw something today that the first Ukrainian pilot finished his F-16 training in the last week

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the training is only complete after a certain number of live fire exercises?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep in mind that a plane needs more than a pilot. The ground crews for servicing and preparing the machine need training, too. The logistics chain must be set up properly. These are very complex machines.
        Like, the dutchies started building F-16 parts (through Fokker) in 1977, still their first F-16 (US-built) was only delivered in 1979. The entire procurement and preparation for F-16's went on for years before the first went into service.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems harder to hide.
    There are only a limited number of known strips of concrete aircraft can live in, even if kept under a hanger most of the time, Russia and half of OSINT twitter is watching by satellite.
    It's a much more anticipated project with a lot more media attention, a lot more Ukrainians and Americans have to be involved over a longer period of time, a lot more civilians recognize an F-16 on sight. It would be hard to make sure not a single overexcited person leaks something.
    I was surprised they managed to do HIMARs without some anonymous source rushing to blab to CNN.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so thats how babby plane is made

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How plane get pregnet

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holding hands before marriage

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OSINT twitter can't do shit with anything not squawking on ADS-B, which is 99.9% of fighter aircraft

      https://i.imgur.com/p9N9Oqw.png

      2022
      >"we'll be delivering HIMARS to Ukraine any day now :)"
      >suddenly ammo depots and similar strategic targets get lit the frick up all over the front
      >"actually we delivered them a month ago :)"
      2023-2024
      >"we'll be delivering f16s to Ukraine any day now :)"
      >suddenly "advanced" russian planes are going down left and right, russian air defense is absolutely shitting itself and even shooting their own side, the entire russian air force is in panic and disarray for seemingly no reason
      I'm not falling for that one twice, f16s are definitely in Ukraine already

      man has a point

      but I thought Russia should be screaming blue murder about HATO jets by now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like all previous wunderwaffen, the Russians will deny its presence until they can't anymore, and then start saying it's ineffective. The screeching about nooks only comes before they're delivered, because its only purpose is to stop the deliveries.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OSINT twitter can't do shit with anything not squawking on ADS-B
        I meant they literally buy satellite time to look at sites of interest like airfields.
        When you see satellite photos of fortifications, damage to Russian ships in port, etc, a lot or even most of that comes from spergs paying for commercial images.
        And even standard internet autism like trawling telegram for loose lipped rumors and geolocatable photos can reveal a major delivery.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they literally buy satellite time to look at sites of interest
          I know, I'm a long time subscriber of Covertcabal and he actually started the trend

          but it's just about impossible even to find the active airbases the UAF is operating from

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that pic
      >yo dawg, we heard you like planes
      and digits

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are taking off from NATO countries

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's true, an F-16 just flew over my house

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A bunch flew by my house, too. I mean, I live by Nellis AFB and they were doing Red Flag, so I should be used to it by now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can't believe they're sending F-16s all the way from Nevada to fight in Ukraine. Classic American wastefulness.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They have a thousand. Most of which have been completely replaced by newer aircraft and the rest reserved to training aircraft or sitting in some hangar forever

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >When all you have is a massive tanker fleet, everything starts to look like an aerial refueling excercise

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they had F-16s for real the ziggers would be screeching about it already.

    I don't think they have them yet, even in small quantities.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just like all previous wunderwaffen, the Russians will deny its presence until they can't anymore, and then start saying it's ineffective. The screeching about nooks only comes before they're delivered, because its only purpose is to stop the deliveries.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If F16s were operating in Ukraine we'd have definitely seen videos and photos by now. I can't wait until they actually are though especially if they are used to decimate Russian air defences. The zigger seethe will be hilarious.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think Ukie pilots and groundcrew could resist making pictures and videos of their new toy.

      But be careful hyping it up too much. As sexy and good as the F-16 is, it's just another weapon. Some will be lost to Russian fire.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine needs a production plant for them in its western half, as well as a bunch of other production plants for other hardware.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine will never get the license or factories to make them. It won't happen for at least another decade (and they will probably choose the Gripen anyway)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nobody chooses the gripen anon
        it just hasn't scaled as well. economics is the most vital component of militaries.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but the F-16 is too expensive for Ukraine to operate and maintain and it does not suit their airfields as well as the Gripen. They would need to import Americans from overseas who know the 50-year-old aircraft well enough to di everything for them

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighters aren't that easy to hide. I reckon it's a particularly adventurous Patriot battery running around the border and bushwhacking Ivans in what is supposed to be secure airspace.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hohols need 2 years to learn F16

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree completely, its the logical thing to do
    You maximise the initial impact of the system by delivering it early and then keeping its presence a secret as long as possible in order to retain the element of surprise even if the enemy knows its coming

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They (meaning the European states that said theyre supplying them) said they were going to have them delivered them months ago OP, the US ones just haven't been.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will Ukraine finally get Gripens once Sweden joins NATO? They’ve wanting them for years.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://i.imgur.com/p9N9Oqw.png

    2022
    >"we'll be delivering HIMARS to Ukraine any day now :)"
    >suddenly ammo depots and similar strategic targets get lit the frick up all over the front
    >"actually we delivered them a month ago :)"
    2023-2024
    >"we'll be delivering f16s to Ukraine any day now :)"
    >suddenly "advanced" russian planes are going down left and right, russian air defense is absolutely shitting itself and even shooting their own side, the entire russian air force is in panic and disarray for seemingly no reason
    I'm not falling for that one twice, f16s are definitely in Ukraine already

    Why are you using the same file in both your threads, OP?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      check filename and don't be an idiot again

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm not falling for that one twice, f16s are definitely in Ukraine already
    dutch ones might be, but the Danish F-16s that were supposed to be delivered around new years definitely ended up delayed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the Danish F-16s that were supposed to be delivered around new years definitely ended up delayed.
      Allegedly, anyways. Not saying I agree 100% with the OP, but the Danes announcing a "delay" might just be part of the maskirovka.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad US aid deal is completely dead. HIMARS will be out of missiles soon and that is that. Pretty sure the F-16 deal also relied on US aid to keep them operational. Whole situation is FUBAR.

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