>20-round drum mag for M82
>$1,600 price tag
>10-round M82 box mags are less than $200
I know it's a meme, but are these guys high?
>20-round drum mag for M82
>$1,600 price tag
>10-round M82 box mags are less than $200
I know it's a meme, but are these guys high?
$1600 is ridiculous. But they did say it’s a limited run product, so there’s the exclusivity of it that Barrett owners will probabaly find appealing. They own $10k rifles so money is no object.
Even still, a metal drum is moronic. Why not polymer? And a capacity of 20 is underwhelming. Why not 2 or more layers of cartridges? It’s a Low effort product and fostech is banking on people with more money than sense thinking their product is cool/superlative to buy it.
Why metal?
Doing the CAD and tasking one of their CNC mills to make parts for a limited run is way waaaaaaaay cheaper than getting dies and tooling set up for molding plastic.
Why do it at all?
This is marketing basically. Showing up to the trade show with something that's going to generate headlines is a game as old as time.
They explained in the interview that 50bmg is the same size as 12 gauge. Therefore, any drum designed for 12 guage will feed 50bmg with minimal tweaking.
>why 20
Probably weight. 40 or 50 rounds of 50 cal is heavy as frick
>why not polymer
way more expensive to do a small run of polymer than machined aluminum, you have to set up millions of dollars in tooling for injection molding.
Not sure if polymer would hold up to rapid fire .50 cal either, but someone else can chime in on this.
>weight on a 50 cal is a consideration
it's 20 because it's easier to design it that way and the market that can shoot 50 rounds all at once without hurting their shoulder or wallet is small
that thing is like 4 cnc cuts put together, shit should not be more than like $200 at most
t. Ran a cnc mill for a long while
It's economy of scale. They went to shot with a product that'll optimistically sell a couple thousand units (how many people own a compatible rifle, and how many still have equity in their home to buy more shit). Developing high quality injection molds can be a 6 figure endeavor, so it's often cheaper just having a CNC machine shit out a few of them each day unless you're going to be moving hundreds of thousands of parts.
the type of person that purchases a 15k rifle to run a large number of 4 dollar a round ammo though is also highly likely to be willing to purchase exorbitantly expensive accessories
>custom machined aluminum is expensive, more at 11
it's expensive but not $1,600 expensive. it's obviously an "if you can afford an M82, you can afford this" price tag.
I could make one of these myself how the frick can you overbuild something so badly it ends up being $1600?
takes time and engineering talent to get the geometry dialed in so it will feed at some minimally acceptable level and a small production run means you don't get to spread that cost out over thousands of units.
CNC time and tooling has costs too.
If you're not just sperging, I'm curious what machinery do you have that will do what looks like half inch aluminum plate? It's not beyond home shop level certainly but it's 100% beyond my CNC router's capability.
>not having a HAAS in his garage
ISHYGDDT
"Hello send cut send, I'd like for you to make this for me."
>total quote, $3,500
Even if you somehow happened upon the engineering drawing for free a machine shop could maybe make one for you under $1000 with the right tolerances MAYBE, now factor in how much engineering hours cost to the design and testing of a rotary 50 bmg magazine
moron, that's for one offs with with the additional moron tax that machine shops charge
>the frick can you overbuild something so badly it ends up being $1600?
It costs $150 to make, then you mark it up. Simple.
>item xx doesn't cost xx
I would like both of you to use you combined 4 brain cells to give me a complete accounting for all of the costs associated with the development and manufacture of this product, including but not limited to: salary of engineer who developed the product x2 or more, software license fees for engineers, computer and design equipment costs, office space rental, prototype machinery, office supplies and prototype material (assume dozens of failed attempts), manufacturing employee salaries (pick a number), CNC machinery, utility costs for running said equipment, manufacturing building rental, raw material costs, packaging equipment, training costs, maintenance staff, benefits for all employees (equal or greater than salary), administrative and managerial staff, marketing, benefits for them, costs for travel associated with things like Shot Sgow, taxes at every conceivable level and more.
> I can charge whatever it costs me to make!
Never had Econ 1?
Well, unless it's heavily subsidized, it wouldn't be affordable to NEETs who aren't going to buy it anyway
Perfect infantry rifle for when power armor is made possible
Make it full auto then
Imagine an 18 inch m107 mounted on the back of a Tundra. FRICK that will be some civil war 2 kino
I have a 20” with a pintle mount in the back of my tacoma.
Its peak kino.
Post pics?
>skeletonized mags
didn't anyone learn anything from the chauchat?
>memegun
>meme accessory
>worrying about muh battlefield conditionerooonies
Look buddy the only person in the world who will worry about that is going to be some cartel beaner in the back of an uparmored tacoma
>meme mag
>sticks out under the rifle that shoots prone
>close to the ground
>same rifle that kicks up lots of dust and shit
it's meme status doesn't change the fact that there is a problem with just normal usage
just glue some leather or someshit to it, you ARE Black personrigging your guns?
All I'm saying is that for $1,600 they could have machined a clear plexiglass tube to fit over the middle section and two lexan faceplates that get bolted to the faces.
In the interview, they say the reason it's open is because that lets mud and dirt fall out easily. It's a self cleaning system.
yeah I'm calling bullshit on that. It's as "Self cleaning" as the M16 was in vietnam.
I'm started to see a theme here on who thinks this thing is unironically cool
Wouldn't a RPD-style magazine work better?
Yeah a belt holder would work really well for a magazine fed weapon dumbass
The people who can afford to drop 15000$ on an M82 probably have the money to drop 1600$ on a 20 round magazine. The real question is how reliable is it actually?
>skeletonized
>that construction
yeah it's a joke, are you moronic?
>People with absolutely no use for a .50bmg are spending $5k to $10k for a .50bmg.
You need to understand their target demographic. It isn't you.
It's definitely a novelty, but neat concept nonetheless.
Would be cool but I kinda would rather they just magazine extensions instead
How much is a fiddy call bullet?
.t no BMG
$8pr for plinking ammo at my Walmart (no joke)
they should make a belt-fed conversion
make it feed from standard disintegrating links and add a bracket to hook a box of 50 on the side
homies be like “I want an NSV but worse in every way”
>these guys high
Yes, they know ppl will pay for it.
how many rounds can you fire through it before heat becomes a serious issue and shits starts coming apart or melting
I am pretty sure the barrel would melt before a skeletonized aluminum mag would malfunction because of heat buildup.
Are you moronic?
I was talking about the gun itself not the magazine
Awww -- PrepHole stopped the booth to say hello.
it's neat, but couldn't they have at least given it a finish? A dark oxide finish could make this not look like a project a high school made
I never understood why burgers buy M82s when the GM6 is a much, much cooler .50
it sucks
>GM6 SUCKS!
>Said the Reddit transplant living in his grandmother's basement, too poor to afford it or any other rifle, much less a .50
>Nooo you can't just throw away money on your ten thousand dollar meme gun
Who gives a frick. It would be funny if magpul rips this off in a year though.
i get the inbreed morons jumping around this shit but what is this actually for?
People with expandable money to magdump their Barretts
Frick the M82 drum mag, Pindad FNCs are going to be a thing.
one of the coolest things there but yet no one is really talking about this
>>10-round M82 box mags are less than $200
isn't that pretty much the same ratio as one of those 60 round AR drum mags?
Magpul drum is the only one I've seen compact enough not to be stupid on a rifle and even that one adds enough bulk such that it isn't really worth it.
I get that this is a flashy gimmick like putting a big chrome push bar on your bro-dozer but it's huge and only holds 20 rounds. Look at all that empty space. They could have fit another 5 to 10 rounds in their but they did a bad job.