>2 and a half years of trade school electric classes
>not even a shovel job, ignored by everyone
Am I in the wrong PrepHole field? Should I frick off to plumbing?
>2 and a half years of trade school electric classes. >not even a shovel job, ignored by everyone
read about the BEAD program and wonder, just stare at the wall, until you figure it out. Learn your color code and get into telco work young man.
Thanks. Not OP but I agree: get into something that isn't generic tradie work.
>get into something that requires on the job experience you don't have
Lie. It's what everyone else does.
Pure weimar.
Not OP but in the same boat, and after doing more research it seems electrical tops out at pulling wire in some way or another. I'm now looking at union pipefitting apprentice programs so I can do crazy shit like offshore or nuclear jobs. Will that help me make it? I don't like the "ok with mediocrity" mindset electrical has. No one is saying you can get 300k as an electrician, but plenty are for fitting and welding.
does telco even come close to the same pay as a union electrician? I'm deciding between the two right now and union electrician get paid 60-70/hr plus benefits and telco work looks to be 30-40/hr and there's no union benefits involved but the telco work is easier on the body
pick up telco and then work your way to better opportunities. The high paying telecommunications work for technicians? It will be $50+, those guys have jobs which never come open though... because they are really comfortable in their jobs. Union electricians always have those really high job postings and need for work because at the top level of electrician there is a shortage of masters, the nature of the electrical industry is a lot more churn too.
which sector of telco pays $50+? commercial, residential? internet and cable companies? I'm sure there are out there but as you've said, the jobs rarely become open. I'm not sure if you are the one that mentioned BEAD but even those jobs are mid wage jobs if you get them. Right now, I'm deciding between telco or union electrician and the only con with union electrician is how dangerous and difficult it can be on the body; retire with good money but bad health. Telco is a good option but again the pay is mediocre unless you find a great opportunity. Can you persuade me a bit more on telco work and what to look for?
Sucks to hear that, what cause you to get rejected twice? I agree, telco work from what I've seen and read is easier on the body and not straining your health. Were you a independent contractor or what did you mean by business owner?
Most electricians have mediocre pay. Union is hyper competitive and selective.
Utility work primarily, sometimes maintaining switching equipment, service and sales can certainly pay that much. Just look at the kinds of jobs available at somewhere like ATT. As to the difference between commercial, residential and internet/cable companies? There is none. It is all likely the same company with different divisions, they are utility monopolies. Once you are in, you will have no problems.
Op here and I got rejected from the union twice, and telco honestly sounds better than killing myself as a wagie or begging strangers for work constantly as a "business owner"
California Telcom jobs at 40-50
Contractors make dog shit. You can't really make money and live anywhere except Bakersfield or the inland empire or maybe rent a room on Oxnard.
They generally only hire as a customer zone tech doing that shit. If you got to lineman school you can hire as lineman but then you'd go work for the power company. It's very very slightly less dangerous with the telecom companies but all the work you do is almost identical.
Splicers make like $1 more and central office techs make $1 more
You can get like $75 if you find a real streamlined business networking contractor but you probably need to know someone and work In a big city that would negate the raise.
It's feels very underpaid and the more skilled you get the more absolutely useless your skills are in any other industry which isn't that weird I guess.
https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/funding-programs/broadband-equity-access-and-deployment-bead-program
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Unironically
Go USAF in an electronics field and you'll crush it. Alternately, Civil Engineering is cake and fun with lots of interaction with contractors. Instant career, earlier retirement than any other option and you can enjoy the money cushion as you build your second career with the experience and human network from the first.
>2 years in industrial maintenance
>Can't even land an interview
>Gonna be in this dogshit pool job until the business dies when the old owner dies and the business fractures
I want to die
Hmm move to southeastern Wisconsin seems like every other block is hiring for this shit. Im both too entitled and too moronic to do this kind of work but seems chill.
Embellish your experience a bit and take a cruddy job until you can land a better one. Be willing to travel.
Have you ever hooked up an aftermarket stereo with a universal harness and just used only electrical tape?
Sounds like that was about 18 months as an electrician working on heavy equipment to me…. Are Honda covics not heavy?
Rosalinda castenado looking over your resume doesn’t know shit about the job she’s recruiting for
>over exaggerate my qualifications to hell, mention every single thing I've done personally or at work
>apply at local equipment company to apprentice making not even 50 cents more than I do now
>won't even respond to my application
>ad stays up for months
>same people were hiring someone to sweep fricking floors 2 years ago before I got this job
>wouldn't hire me to do that
>sometimes random companies an hour or more away will way over estimate even my stated qualifications and ask me do be like head of maintenance for some very large facility.
Anyone notice that, the closer the job, the less interest they have in you?
If people won't even respond to me when I'm bullshitting as some hyperborean aryan repairman, god forbid they knew I walk to work and don't actually have professional experience in half the stuff I listed.
Small businesses are often really really badly run.
One of mynfirst jobs I had to bring them my application resume 5 times in a month and finally the manager/whoever took me to lunch to offer me the job.
He apologized and said they just lost the application 5 times.
They are a regional place with like 5 or something locations, bigger than the place I work with. I wouldn't be suprised if 95% jobs on indeed are just fake listings so companies can just say they "can't find no workers" to justify more migration. When I was looking for work 2 years ago, probably 85% wouldn't even respond.
The badly run part though, don't get me STARTED. Literally everyone at my job is borderline moronic, only stayed as long as I have because I can show up after getting 2 hours of sleep and still do better work than anyone on the floor and it's close by. Really worried to change work since even though this place isn't easy on the body, if my hips and feet are fricked from this, lifting heavy iron all day is gonna be worse. Thinking of either trying for industrial maintenance or do 3/12s while trying to start a repair business if I could find a rust free truck at a good price.
Correct me if I'm wrong but being extremely overqualified for a job is frowned upon.
I'm not overqualified per se, I just list anything that I've technically had experience doing in my resume. I have experience doing auto repair so I say I've got experience working on cars. I did all the trim and crown molding when I renovated the house, so I say I've done that too, etcetera.
I don't actually pretend that I've done that stuff professionally though.
Then there is my actual job, which the actual activity I do most of the day really has no relevancy to any other industry aside from this hyper specific one. However, because everyone else there is moronic and the engineers are useless, I repair, maintain and make improvements to the machinery, make jigs, etc. Because the engineers sit in the office all day jerking off, I also have to tell them what improvements and changes they need to make to future tooling to maximize efficiency in my actual position, which applies to anyone else working in the area as well. If they get $500k PO's coming in, I'm the one they ask about the feasibility of producing it, time estimates, material needed, etcetera.
Even though all that stuff wasn't in my job description or is in my job title, I would qualify stuff like that as me having professional experience doing machinery repair, maximizing efficiency, making jigs etcetera because I actually do it at work and no one else there either is capable of it, or thinks to do it.
So at least in my head I would imagine someone might say, yeah this person isn't a professional in the field, but knows way more than someone just off the street with literally no idea that would typically be applying for an entry level apprentice position,so it'd be easier to train. I'd hope I'd at least hear back.
I think you're better off physically walking into the offices of these places you're applying to and asking to schedule a 10-minute meeting with a supervisor/manager and explaining these things, instead of going through HR morons that find every reason to screen you out of a position.
I'm not actively looking for stuff right now, I am just relating experiences. I thought it was bad having no real official, verifiable experience or proof of competency. But reading the op and the other few it seems across the board bad even with certifications or experience in a field.
A friend of mine had a letter of recommendation from General Dynamics and they'd still bullshit him over a few dollars an hour doing maintenance work.
You're a fricking frog poster. Of course no one is going to hire you.
Have you tried giving the boss a firm handshake?
Get an entry level job with an electrical contractor. You will see that your "classes" are of minimal value.
I already know they are, I live in a state that forces you to take over 500 classroom hours of instruction to be licensed
>get an entry level job
HOW???
Just join the military, OP. Simple.
I hope someone else has already said it, but I'm not reading first.
If you can't find work with your experience where you are, then expand your travel distance until you can. Trades work will usually pay enough that you can cover the cost of transportation until you can afford to live closer to the job, or find another job that's closer to where you want to live.
"If you can't find jobs close to you, then go to where the jobs are.". At one point I drove across the Country for nearly 3 days to get to a place where I could find work as an Apprentice Trades guy. Never went hungry for years. If you're an Apprentice then you have to go where they need you, or find other work.
So all that stuff you guys kept saying about "each trade can find work ANYWHERE, ANYTIME" was bullshit?
>each trade can find work ANYWHERE, ANYTIME
nah dude, that is always true. Your doing something wrong, or you smell bad.
>3 years of sparky school+1 year of automation stuff
havent done a single day of sparky stuff for living
good thing this shit was free
I'm 3.5 grand in the hole.
>Manager of small, local retail store
>Frick this shit, I hate this job and the general public
>Already old, not doing 4+ years of college
>2 years of industrial maintenance with robotics and couple thousand dollars later
>Guy from plant with profit sharing so easy 80-100k a year job comes to my robotics final presentation and likes it, invites me to plant for interview
>Super excited, my life is on track finally
>Goes fricking terrible, he wants someone with like 10+ years of experience and there's not a single robot in the plant so why did he come to a robot presentation????????????? Why did he ask a recent college grad with no experience to come to an interview when he wants someone to plug in and hit the ground running??????????
>Apply and get declined for even an interview at every large factory I apply to
>Got an interview because of a personal connection in a few days and the HR c**t that gave me a call made it sound like I had no shot and was only getting interviewed because of said personal connection
>"Yeah anon, I see you've worked retail. What shift would you be interested in? We've got a couple of weekend third shifts for operators."
>Probably gonna get a job offer as an operator for less pay than I make now sitting on my ass and dealing with morons
Thinking it's over if this goes how I think it will
I know nobody cares but
>Interview went okay
>Probably gonna offer me the most entry level job possible of picking up shavings and filling hydraulic fluids
>Probably gonna be $17 an hour which would be a $20k per year pay decrease
>Probably gonna reject the job offer
>mfw
call and say you're going to turn down the offer because you got the position desired at their biggest competitor, then show up anyway the first day, walk into the place for the desired position and if anyone calls you out on it act confused and slightly indignant and say you were brought here on reference for the higher position and if they want you to work for the competitor then sure, send your ass out the door. at least you'll have your foot in the door, literally. you will get moved to team lead within a few months then they will NOT promote without 5+ years of grinding. now or never. good luck.
>if you're gonna turn it down anyway why not just go for broke