1,630 Tanks lost by the Russian army

I'm curious what percentage this is of the number they had at the start of the war. How many tanks does Russia have left?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How many tanks does Russia have left?
    All the ones at the Kubinka museum to begin with.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They started restoring the MAUS just before the war I hope they don't cancelled it and we will see it around Ukraine as a mobile bunker/artillery for mobiks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maus can be defeated by cold war era atgms and heat shells.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt the Russians are that based. They'd probably just melt it down for BMPs since that seems like something they'd do.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they made some noise a while back about their soviet cargo cult military themed cathedral having a floor made of melted down german tank metal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All the ones at the Kubinka museum to begin with.
      Kubinka brigade when?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In late 1944, a unit was formed, and at a meeting in the Fuhrer's headquarters it was referred to as tank company "Kummersdorf". This unit consisted of three tank platoons (mostly still mobile), one recon platoon of armored vehicles, an infantry (Grenadier) platoon and one tank platoon, consisting of a Tiger II, a single Jagdtiger heavy tank destroyer, two American Shermans, the Carro Armato P 40 Heavy Tank and several Borgward IVs armed with machine guns.
        KINO

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine sisters..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Julian
      Why do people keep posting this retarded gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOO YOU CANT BE MEAN TO ME
      Julian is the worst kind of troll

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many of this pro-russian westoids got honeypotted by FSB CP servers?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget Michael Tracey:
        >Tracey joined The Young Turks in January 2017[5] but left the organization by mid-2018.[6]

        >In April 2017, Tracey went to an estate sale at Kurt Eichenwald's house. Tracey photographed collections of journalistic notes on terrorists and Guantanamo Bay, as well as ties, socks and hats belonging to Eichenwald, posting the photographs in a Twitter thread.[7] Two years later, Eichenwald described Tracey as a "bizarre dude" who snuck into his house and took pictures of his socks.[8]

        Or Bitter Macgregor

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh man i forgot about the socks thing, legitimately the funniest thing matt tracey has ever done

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm just asking questions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am VERY WORRIED FOR UKRAINE, at this point it looks like the WHOLE FRONT MAY COLLAPSE!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder if any of the NAFOids posted him the banzai charge as the proofs he so seeks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >banzai charge
        Looks more like a zombie invasion.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1600 is like 10% of their total stock since they dont scrap anything. also they could have thousands more somewhere since t62s showed up in ukraine and they were supposed to have been scrapped/sold years ago and officially they have 0

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >also they could have thousands more somewhere since t62s showed up in ukraine and they were supposed to have been scrapped/sold years ago and officially they have 0
      Might have raided Belarus' stockpiles

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically could have took them from museums and town memorials too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1600 tanks are ~30% of their operational tank force. It's a huge blow.

      On paper, Russia inherited around 22000 tanks from USSR. However, most of these tanks were in junk status even in the early 1990s. Half of the Russian tank fleet is just rusty metal with vegetation growing out of them... Pre-2020, the most optimistic HUMINT stated that Russia doesn't have more than 6000 operational MBTs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon no.
        Rusted wrecks are not tanks.

        >since they dont scrap anything
        Most of those tanks are sitting in fields and have been for decades. Getting rained and snowed on and frozen over and over again.

        its irrelevant if they were/are rotting in some open air dump. its very likely that large parts of russian industry are gearing to refurbish these long forgotten tanks/bmps/btrs etc. this is probably why functioning 60s mod. t62s showed up. easy/quick to refurbish and cheap. i wouldn't be shocked if we started seeing a shit ton of t72as rolling into the donbas

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i wouldn't be shocked if we started seeing a shit ton of t72as rolling into the donbas
          Two more weeks comrade

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the t72a was bad in the 70s. its dogshit now. the only way you think im a vatnik from reading what i said is if your a tourist who has basically no idea what im talking about

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >russian industry gearing

          no. Russian industry has major shortcomings due to sanctions. Russian factories can't acquire new CNC machines, robotics, and electronics due to sanctions. And there are very serious issues due to the lack of spare parts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. The Russian aerospace industry has been trying to make a domestically produced commercial airliner for the past 8 years due to the effects of the 2014 sanctions, but have faced substantial delays due to the fact they can’t produce the required composite materials or electronics. I’m sure Russia can “refurbish” as many T-62s and BMP-2s as they want, but if they don’t have modern fire control systems or sensors on them they are just going to be very heavy coffins.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And let's not forget there's plenty of places rather more susceptible to rusting. Like the engines, the suspension, the fucking roller bearings in the turret ring etc. At that point you're no longer refurbishing anything, you're effectively trying to scrap the tank and recycle the bare hull and turret.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >large parts of russian industry are gearing to refurbish these

            With what? They don't have the machine tooling and tehy don't have the industrial capacity to produce it anymore. And the Germans aren't selling now.

            can they not just buy this shit from the chinese or through india? haven't they been doing that since 2014? havent you guys seen the russian cargo planes going to china everyday? doesn't india buy like 20x more oil from russia than they did pre war? we hear a lot about western aid to ukraine but if your china here not aiding russia is a massive blunder and i cant really see a scenario where they arent helping out in all ways possible behind the scenes. i dont really think it will make a difference in the end if western aid keeps up but saying russia is running out of tanks is stupid and more disinfo like that could actually end up in public support/aid dying down. its important for normies to know that russia is still a threat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >can they not just buy this shit from the chinese or through india? haven't they been doing that since 2014? havent you guys seen the russian cargo planes going to china everyday? doesn't india buy like 20x more oil from russia than they did pre war?
              Russia is a resource rich nation, they can feed and power themselves. China and India need imports to survive and feed their population, what's more their economies are much more reliant on western markets. They each have a billion people to take care of and the economy is not that great now and they are in no way set up for self sufficiency. They don't want to gamble on the west dropping a bunch of sanctions on them by sending weapons just because Putin had a little chimp out. He gets to buy deniable shit like AliExpress drones and component parts. They don't really give a fuck about him and since he has lost access to the western markets they are making a killing buying Russian resources on the cheap.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would India or China risk sanctions and profit to sell 10s of parts to the Russians. Western and internal are going to pay and buy more. Oil discounts show this plain as day.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              China can't into top of the line industrial equipment.

              Not that they would sell it to Russia, even if they could. They're not stupid enough to give up the world's two largest trading partners for the sake of a country with an economy the size of Spain.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              China can do some, older/lower quality machine tooling. Anything beyond that? You go to the Japs, you go to the Krauts or if you're very lucky you may be able to go to the Yanks. If none of them wanna deal with you? You're shit outta luck. It's kinda ludicrous just how hard the Japanese and Germans dominate the global market for high-end machine tools.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can assume anything India or China has, Russia can acquire.

              But as far as I can tell none of those countries can buy the really advanced machinery made in Germany or Switzerland. This is not new, it's been true for many, many years.

              India is perhaps the closest to being able to since they have Western factories and defence contractors there, although I suspect it's monitored closely and would raise eyebrows if they buy more than they need.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia was never able to buy advanced machines in the first place, and there was no new sanction because that shit was already banned a long time ago.

              So the idea that Russia suddenly stopped being able to manufacture weapons is idiotic.

              They did rely on France for certain parts like optics, but that's not the end of the world if they eventually run out of stockpiled French optics, they'll just use their own domestic inferior stuff.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. Russia deindustrialised after the USSR went kaboom and what's left of its industries has now become dependent on western machine tooling and spare parts.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They can't domestically produce tractor. A fucking tractor! Their train vagons depend on the western spare parts for the bearings. Their civilian planes all depend on the western spare parts. And I'm not even talking about semiconductors that are basically produced only in Taiwan and thus banned to export to Russia.
                They became reliant on the western modern tech and all the know-how about old crude eastern tech was already lost because nobody bothered to pass that knowledge and male lifespan is really short in Russia. They are trapped. They can't get new western tech, they can't use old eastern tech and Pooh said: "Fuck you idc".
                They won't collapse to the stone age of course, but they will become second North Korea in the next ten years.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Until last year Americans had to board a Russian spacecraft to reach the ISS.

                The idea they can't build fucking tractors is quite frankly absurd. Where is this talking point even coming from? The state department?

                Russia has built tractors since the fucking end of the 19th century.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The reason for that isn't the same though, it's after they lost a bunch of astronauts and we're trying to push Russia into being a dependant and closer even with the issue of Georgia.
                >Back in 2004, President Bush announced that NASA's aging space shuttle program would be retired in 2010 and — eventually — replaced by a plan to return to the moon
                And then they just didn't. There was a small gap and American competitors filled in as they have now with the atlus and later all the various groups you see now.
                Russia was able to use that American money to then expand its own space program and sell engines to the US, which was having a NASA funding backlash. As of 2014 the purchase of engines has stopped, and as of 2022 the last engines are being phased out, since the US now manufactures two replacements that are significantly better and the war in Ukraine necessitated putting in some effort for domestic production instead.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's been exactly one tractor manufacturer of significant size in all of Russia for the last ~20 years. And they're not actually manufacturing tractors. They're importing parts kits and then assemble them domestically.

                Post-soviet Russia has de-industrialised itself into a gulf monarchy/banana republic-style resource extraction economy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like another former superpower that has red,white and blue colors in it's flag...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO. Roscosmos used to be one of the few parts of soviet industry the Russian government intervened directly to keep alive at all costs, even while most of their industrial sector withered away in the psot-soviet years. And then they fucked that up too when this war began.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stealing the OneWeb satellites was the end of the line. Before nations and business was willing to pay extra to not use SpaceX. Now everyone is going to launch on falcon 9 as a stop gap.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                plenty of other delivery rockets in development right now. of course they're all American. Russia is old and busted, even if they weren't driving off business with being spiteful and shortsighted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In development. Amazon has bought all the extra capacity from Ariane and ULA. Leaves those smaller providers, with no flying rockets or SpaceX. Northrup Grumman is a good example. Paid alot to use Atlas 5 over falcon 9 in the past. Now the only ride around SpaceX, has four launches contracted. Sure they are buying a new first stage from Firefly, but it ain't real until it's in orbit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So I think you are making a basic mistake that many people make in this conflict.
                Let me use an example.
                Every morning I go to the coffee shop in the corner, to get my coffee. Does this mean I "depend" on that coffee shop? What happens if that shop closes? Do I have to give up drinking coffee?
                Use your brain for two seconds.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a nice analogy. Only for it to make sense. you'll need to extend it a bit: In the world of your analogy there's exactly three coffee shops and one shop selling a limited selection of shitty ersatz coffee. In the entire world. And you've pissed off the first three to the point they're refusing to sell to you and are threatening to also blacklist anyone who tries to sell to you second-hand. Have fun trying to get yourself some coffee, sucker!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What if your country stopped receiving imports of coffee? Presuming you're in a temperate climate, you can't produce your own coffee beans, so you have to rely on smuggling. Sure, coffee beans would end up in your country... The prices would be jacked up and a cup of coffee would be about ten times the cost. You could decide to pay that amount, but you don't really need coffee, do you? So you decide to go without. Very rich people can easily afford coffee and they will have it, of course, but the majority of people won't...

                Maybe a few military units will get coffee on a greatly reduced scale, elite units might get some coffee but not nearly as much as they need... Since any country exporting coffee to you will have to worry about getting slapped with sanctions, most will refuse to export it officially and in order to get any coffee at all, you'll be dealing with shadowy types that expect favors in return.

                All this for a shitty cup of coffee, any kind of coffee you can get your hands on at any price they offer... Bad deal.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Belarus for all intents and purposes is a domestic tractor.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they'll just use their own domestic inferior stuff.

                You don't realise how much of a joke Russian industry is, they were already outsourcing most of their high tech stuff during the soviet era.Motherfuckers,had vacuum tube tv's in the 80's...They'll have to rely on China for that now.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In 2000, the Han Chinese population of the Russian Far East was just 20,000. Due to Chinese use of resources there and development, that number has ballooned to 800,000 by 2014. At that point the Russian government demanded China stopped publishing these figures. There are only 7.5 million Russian citizens out in that huge swath of the world, and many of them are ethnic indigenous or Mongols with more affinity for the Chinese.

              China still remarks on how the treaties that gave Russia the Far East were illegal and under duress.

              China has every incentive to see Russia lose. If Putin's chosen successor, if he ever picks one, falls with Putin, China can sponsor their own claimant for the Tsardom and have Russia as a full vassal.

              Whatever the case, as long as the war goes on China can make whatever demands it wants, and get Russian resources at fire sale prices while having more leverage to expand it's ownership and the share of Chinese there. They don't have any reason to help Russia too much, they are restarting the Tartar Yolk.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon who do you think makes China and India's CNC and advanced materials? it's NATO n' Friends (Japan, Aus, SK etc). Its why America and the EU are objectively industrial powerhouses but no one believes it, because all their walmart stuff says "MADE IN CHINA". The first world makes, by a wild margin, the world's best and majority of capital goods. You need a power transformer for an entire factory? You buy that from like France. You need a powerful high temperature drill for deep drilling? Well maybe a company in Germany makes that. Need high end air craft aluminum? You call the Americans.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >two more weeks until we have tanks that lack Andy modern fire control and can be taken out with a single RPG round

          Vatsisters… I don’t feel so good

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >large parts of russian industry are gearing to refurbish these

          With what? They don't have the machine tooling and tehy don't have the industrial capacity to produce it anymore. And the Germans aren't selling now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japs no more sell CNC control units to Russia and not providing service to Russian factories. Japanese Fanuc controls 85% of the global market

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if putin does this i think we can all agree that a tanker fucked putin's mom and now he wants revenge

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Magical thinking.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Huh?
        In 89 a bunch of T-55s were rolling about in these eastern bloc countries.
        They didn't go kaput in just a dew years

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They were deliberately scrapped because they're obsolete shitboxes to the point that they're not even worth warehousing.
          If anyone had T-55s laying around (on either side), they would be in Ukraine right now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They do if you along side not maintaining it, steal everything valuable on it to sell.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Half of the Russian tank fleet is just rusty metal with vegetation growing out of them...
        May I see it?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sure

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure what that guy was hoping to achieve by challenging you on this kek

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I mean Google Images gives you examples for days

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >posts old ass tanks from the 80s
                Wow bro amazing proof of your claims
                One upboat

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                come on man

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Really aesthetic graphics, almost stalker tier but the lighting isn't as good as the xray engine deferred renderer. Which game is this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon this is war thunder. I recognize those textures.

                Battlefield 4
                COME ON MAN

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is the gameplay any good? I haven't really played mainstream/AAA titles in over a decade.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Battlefield one is the best modern and alive entry but four has a pretty decent amount of people playing and it’s also pretty fun if you like things a little more fast paced than one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah this one and battlefield 1 (the 2016 ww1, the number system is weird, i know) are absolute gems, especially bf1
                obviously a little arcadey so dont expect a mil-sim but its fast paced and satisfying gunplay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah not anymore. You missed the train.
                It's now filled with people who think that spamming moron in chat for 5 minutes straight until the admin finally stops sucking cocks and banhammers them is peak comedy.
                You can still kinda play it fine if that's your thing but expect to see Siege of Shanghai and Metro often.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon this is war thunder. I recognize those textures.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah my bad, it's actually battlefield 4. My vidya vision is going rusty.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dunning Kruger at its finest that’s battlefield 4 lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ahaha seething

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And of that entire lot, you may get ten working tanks. None of which will be capable of fighting anything in Ukraine, except unsupported infantry who have ran out of AT munitions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon no.
      Rusted wrecks are not tanks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >since they dont scrap anything
      Most of those tanks are sitting in fields and have been for decades. Getting rained and snowed on and frozen over and over again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The hulls won't be affected by rust depending on how thick it is. Scaling thick steel takes serious chemicals to do any real damage. I've got 3/8 steel thatve been laying in our field for decades and it's still perfectly serviceable if you grind off the scaling. A tank hull? Probably fine if you can rebuild the inside and tracks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the rubber, electronics, and plastic parts.
          You can leave a car in the desert and the body will be fine indefinitely, but all your hoses will rot away.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Probably fine if you can rebuild the inside and tracks.
          This, the tanks are fine they just need a little polish and a rebuild of almost all of the important parts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These tanks are rusted shits and even IF (biggest if) they are operational, they would be such a strain on the logistics system that it would be more effective to just send the next wave of mobiks with these capabilities.
      >Russia has thousands of tanks
      is as accurate as saying my scrapyard has 400 cars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon tanks need to be maintained ,a rusty hull with no systems in it is not a tank.Refurbishing them will cost almost as much as building a new one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's that why we've seen human waves tactics not only on the eastern front but now on the southern one as well? They out of tanks my dude, it's done

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then why we see literal human flesh waves?
      why they just roll on kiev if they have so many?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they have so many tanks that they send their professionals to die in T-62's
      how does this sound plausible in anyone's head?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1600 is like 10% of their total stock

      the other 90% look like this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why the fuck do they still have t-62s?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          refurb and sell to syria and africa , if your enemy is just rebels with no tanks it's still good enough

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/DmND5uX.jpg

        Yeah I mean Google Images gives you examples for days

        https://i.imgur.com/J4tAoPB.jpg

        sure

        would an awning covering the yards where these are kept make an appreciable difference to slowing their decay?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It would until it tore from snow.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there were sheds that kept mothballed tanks like these in good shape at one point, but for some reason the russians scrapped those and went with open air under tarp storage instead. Each machine used to be hooked up to a life support system, and ran at least for an hour once a month (back in the soviet era). That was enough to keep them working fairly well. These have been utterly abandoned since then.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They may have 16.000 hulls. That is not equal to 16.000 tanks. Those hulls would need major refurbishment, including new motors, guns and electronics. That kind of work will need up to a year, given that there are factory capacities and the needed parts are available.
      While it is true that access to those hulls theoretically decreases production times substantially, there are some major issues, like no availability of non 2A46 type guns. Where are you going to get parts or complete U5TS from? Without those, T62 hulls are of little use unless you completely rebuild the turret. Also, the tank is obsolete.
      Same goes for T64 hulls. Too many parts cannot be sourced.
      The only stored hulls that are of practical use for Russia are T72, T80 and T90 (which could theoretically be subsumed under T72).
      Usable models are roughly 10k hulls in various states of disrepair. Of those, only T72B and it’s derivatives (including T90) are really useful for Russia, because there are facilities that turn those into something with real combat value. I don’t have access to military balance 2021, so I cannot give you a number on those. Maybe another anon could provide that?!
      There are about 3000 T80 of various models in storage. The vast majority of them are not really suitable for the modern battlefield and guzzle gas like Abrams. They still could be rebuilt to be operational.
      T54 or T55 hulls are of no practical value for high intensity warfare on a modern battlefield.
      Hulls don’t equal hulls don’t equal tanks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        at least when it comes to T-64s Ukraine still controls the old manufacturing lines and tooling for those vehicles, and was actively making new parts for the T-64 as recently as 2020. They were also doing the same with T-80s. Russia doesnt have those same tooling plants or the plans for the vehicles, they were buying parts from Ukraine.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That’s just the visually confirmed ones. There could be a thousand more, especially in the areas still held by Russia, or perhaps the wreckage could have been cleared before images were taken, either way the real count is far higher.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1600 is the conservative estimate.

      Russia most likely lost 60% to 70% of their MBT force - enough that they are now wary of using them.

      HOWEVER, if the war continues for some years, they may actually set up a couple dumb tank factories. meaning we'd have t-60 level modern-manufacture tanks being produced faster than they are being taken down (sounds familiar? that's how WWII measured war time vehicle production)

      >1600 is like 10% of their total stock since they dont scrap anything
      because it scraps itself.

      An abandoned fuel oil vehicle has 10 to 20 years before it's motor rusts/dustens itself into clogging and total useleness. Turret movement and firing mechanisms are (I assume) built to last but the loading mechanism has some fine parts that may just break apart.
      That's NOT EVEN TAKING PLASTIC AND ELECTRIC PARTS INTO ACCOUNT.

      Now consider these tanks have been abandoned without maintenance for 40 years, some even for 60.

      It's estimated than like 5% of the "10000 tanks" are operational, and some 10% to 20% are also being literally scavenged for spare parts. The rest are just rusted metal.

      Russia must have around 500 to 10000 fully operational tanks today, and may start producing 1 tank a week (or even more!) this year.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        500 to 1000*

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they may actually set up a couple dumb tank factories

        With what? Again, Russia does not produce any industrial machine tooling of their own, and all of the major producers of it are sanctioning them. They're stuck in a situation where they can't produce the tools to produce the tools needed for a large expansion in tank manufacturing, even for primitive ones.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Again, Russia does not produce any industrial machine tooling of their own
          you are high as fuck.

          even thirld world shit holes have the know how for machining. because they are populated by people who still do manual labor.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia makes tank barrels with Swedish factory equipment they bought during 70s, when cold war was a bit less intense.
            >HURR DURR CONGO COULD MAKE A MODERN TANK BARREL NO PROBLEM, THEY WORK WITH THEIR HANDS
            Delusional, look how few companies make them in Europe vs how much heavy and semi-heavy industry there is.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >look how few companies make them in Europe
              uh turns out there is not a crazy amount of demand in an industry that didn't built something the last 20 years

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they may actually set up a couple dumb tank factories

        With what? Again, Russia does not produce any industrial machine tooling of their own, and all of the major producers of it are sanctioning them. They're stuck in a situation where they can't produce the tools to produce the tools needed for a large expansion in tank manufacturing, even for primitive ones.

        people forget that the soviets bought massive factory tooling from the US and other nations before and after the second world war to build their industrial bases up. They copied the system of mass production from the US, and used it to build their systems, but now they dont have these same massive tooling plants anymore, its all gone to shit since the 90s.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of which 925 T-72, 350 T-80, and 44 T-90.

    It's interesting thaw we have about 75% pre war stock of T80 visualy confirmed destroyed.
    Going b official 2021 numbers, the have about 100 T-80 BVM left ant thats it from pre war active core.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The reason we might have such a high confirmation for the destruction of pre-war T-80 stock is because very good units, such as the 1st guards tank army, were outfitted with them and then subsequently lost badly in the Kyiv offensive and then in the Kharkiv counter offensive. I’d wager the reason we were seeing T-62s in Kherson, as well as T-62s being refurbished in Russia, is because the majority of Russia’s modern T-80 and T-72 stock was destroyed and they are saving their remaining ones, plus the remainder of their modern T-90s, to reconstitute their best strike forces.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Russia was able to steam roll Ukraine, it would have been easier to sustain a force of T-80s in Ukraine than anything else due, in part, to the local arms industry. T-80s being based on T-64s, which were produced in Ukraine... Who still manufactured T-80UD, etc, etc. Logistically, it would have been a smart move to push Russian T-80s into Ukraine for the occupation since there are existing maintenance facilities that can handle them, for the most part.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A tank is a tank.

    All you need is treads, an engine & a huge cannon. Russia has thousands of these.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And NATO has thousands of cheap tools to destroy Russian armor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That might have been true in 1946, but this is 2023.

      A GunBuggy that LOOKS like a tank and gets used LIKE a tank is gonna get shot at like it was a tank...and every one that tosses its turret is at least 3 dead Vatniks and wasted ammo and fuel for Mother Russia.

      Hell, the US should start rehabbing and painting our M60s and send them over.
      Unlike Russia, we keep OUR stuff in a nice dry desert that doesn't rust shit as fast.
      Plus they're good old diesels.

      Nobody over in Ukraine is maintaining shit anymore anyways. They're throwing them in until the get blown up or they break.
      They'll worry about repairing them later.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How many tanks does Russia have left?
    Depends on how many of the mothballed tanks rotting in Siberia can be returned to service.

    Anywhere from 0 (unlikely) to 7,000 (equally unlikely).

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is no problem
    20,000 more T-72 waiting in storage for spring offensive from Belarus

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only T72B derivatives can be built into something useful. Because that’s the base model for all upgrades, including T90. And I’m pretty sure that there are not that many hulls of that type in storage. Rebuilding T72A into something useful would need a design first and a factory second. That’s like a 5 year project before the first testbed hill rolls off the assembly line.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About two more weeks

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They probably made up for half of that by just the amount the Ukains abandoned at deserted depots.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i remember reading an article where they tried to count tanks based on satellite photos. it was around 3000 tanks they can pull out and spend months refurbishing

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They probably make like 17- 25 a month minimum so probably alot still. Idk I called valdy up and he told me he'd get back to me with a number for you guys.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The funniest example is probably actually the one about ball bearings.

    >Some Russian company buys ball bearings from Germany or whatever
    >The logical implication is that Russia has not mastered the ball bearing technology yet and is literally incapable of producing ball bearings

    Vladimir Putin has ordered the best research institutes in Moscow to reverse engineer ball bearings. It is expected that by 2033 Russia will be able to domestically produce ball bearings.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek, Germans could produce assloads of ball bearings while being constantly bombed in the 40s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mastering the technology

      Literally not how that works, you blithering retard.

      Knowing how to make ball bearings in theory doesn't mean jack fucking shit when you don't have the industrial machinery nor the trained workforce to do it. Oh and you also lack the ability to buy or make yourself the former, as well as the educational system to educate adn train the latter.

      Industrial production chains are a hell of a lot more complex and demanding that just having on-paper knowledge of how to do the final production process. Especially if you want that process to actually efficiently produce stuff at a high quality and consistency and in large numbers.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do russians tanks even do anything other than shooting at random buildings? i mean if they had destroyed a few ukranian target im sure they would spam optic footage of that from commander pov or some shit? yeah? no?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’re smoking crack

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have tens of thousands left. Granted the 1,000 or so they lost in Ukraine were modernised variants

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are we now pretending like corrosion and plastics-rubber degrading doesn't exist?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i effortpost
    >nobody replies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The amount of effort that goes into refuting bullshit is infinitely more than just spouting bullshit. Don't remember the quote. But you can't reason with schizo chugcels

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1,630 Tanks lost by the Russian army
    Nooooooooooooooo
    . 1630 tanks lost by the Russian army that jave been confirmed and verified via geolocation actual number lost from publicly available images and info the actual number lost is 3139 because the Ukrainians have all the unreleased drone footage to count them exactly and we know their figures are right because they predicted the arrival of the broken t62s, Oryx's figures also always rise in correlation, especially when the Ukrainians advance and more destroyed Russian material gets logged en mass from open imagery.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also predicting barrel scraping shit like t14 porotypes about now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know things are really bad when the real statistics seem like inflated propaganda numbers.
      The losses on ukie side can't be pretty either.
      Modern war is terrifying.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine what Rudel could do in a cannon Stuka in current year. he wouldn't even have to worry about AA, he could just farm tanks all day long and Putin would be tankless after a week.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok, there are still 8370 left

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1,630 Tanks lost by the Russian army
    to, anon, to...

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wow, just 10,000 tanks to go, good luck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      general rust has taken care of those

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >10,000 to go
      >3 steppe apes to a tank
      >potential footage of up to 30,000 ziggers getting yeeted and deleted at stake
      As a moderate I approve.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Attack on europe
    >europe

    "If international financial garden gnomery in and outside of Europe should succeed in throwing the peoples into another world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thus the victory of Judaism, but the annihilation of the gnomish race in Europe." Hitler 30.1.1939

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think there is conclusion about this

    3,300 active tanks at start of war
    2,000 that are stored and could be refurbished for war

    1630 / 0.7 as Oryx is usually only able to capture 70% of losses = 2300

    Russia has about 3,000 tanks left without digging up the really shit stuff, but it needs at least 2,000 to defend its borders

    I think 1,000 tanks left for ukraine which is why they are only conducting infantry attacks now, the 1000 are mobile forces to intercept ukranian combined arms attacks

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Slava rossiy-ACK!!!!

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