16 Gauge

What niche does it fill that 20 or 12 gauge doesn't?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's French, you see.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    None anymore. That's why it was gradually phased out and you can have hot 20 or low 12 now.
    It came in the time that paper or even brass cartridges were a thing, but you can have anywhere from 2+3/4 (or shorter) 12 gauges at he low end with less shot but more propellant. Kind of like how 3 or 3+1/2 inch filled the gap where 10 gauge used to exist.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There were never all that popular in the Anglosphere. Picrel is from a book written by one of the most famous English shotgun makers. They were common in German and Austrian guns, perhaps because if you are building a Drilling double 12ga barrels plus a rifle barrel is a bit heavy but with 16ga it is a lot handier.
    Personally I don't care for 16ga. I get the appeal of a wanting a lighter gun for hunting upland game but I'd much rather take a 20 or 28. And that's especially true with modern cartridges. As far as I'm concerned the 16ga carries like a 12ga but hits like a 20.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They were pretty common in America, dumbass.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we aren't Anglo, you baked bean eating limey bastard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Originally yes, and predominantly until the 1890s. Even during the revolution, most people in the colonies considered themselves “englishmen”.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never ever. Even the fricking .410 was always more popular than the 16ga.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It was 1/4 the market after WWII for like two decades. That's not nothing when you have at least 4 other big boys in 10, 12, 20, and 410.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They're unprofitable and sitting in Granddad's closet. Doesn't mean they don't exist.

            >Doesn't mean they don't exist.
            Nobody is trying to tell you the 16ga doesn't exist or that' it's shitty. We're saying it was never dominant in the market and it's always been less popular than other gauges, unless you want to talk about Continental Europe 150 years ago.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              homie I just old you it was a quarter of the market for 20 years.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A quarter of the market sounds "less popular than other gauges" to me. And that's assuming I believe your unsourced data point. Where is that 25% figure from?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                if your car was a quarter of all cars sold you would absolutely consider it to be the most popular car in the world, it all depends on the market and the competition was stiff

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Counting sales of shells not guns? Then yeah, probably, a lot of 16ga came back as trophies in WW2. My grandfather brought back a single shot 16ga and a Sauer drilling with a 16ga barrel, along with a bunch of other random shit (Zeiss medium-format camera, Sauer 38H, etc)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >after WWII
            There's your key. Lots of vets using their free liberated shotguns to pop raccoons and ducks. Doesn't make the 16ga popular, just means the guns were free.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            10ga was very popular in the black powder era but not so much after smokeless became a thing. In fact it was essentially dead until lead shot bans started popping up and the modernized magnum 3.5" 10ga was invented. Since steel shot was the economical replacement for lead but steel is less dense than lead, a larger volume is required for the same effective load. Thus 10ga became a niche cartridge for duck and goose hunters. It wasn't dead, but it was still very much a specialist gun.

            The 12ga was by far the biggest driver of the market. The other gauges existed but it wasn't like the pie was divided up evenly. The vast majority of American cartridge shottys were, and still are, 12ga.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They were a thing, sure, but they were never as popular as 20 or 12ga even back during the days of the Auto 5 "Sweet Sixteen". A 16ga is even less common than a 28ga these days.
        Looking at Gunbroker there are 2020 28gas for sale right now and 1500 16gas. Looking at GunsInternational (it's an American site despite the name) there are 646 28gas and 375 16s.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're unprofitable and sitting in Granddad's closet. Doesn't mean they don't exist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Present? Yes. Popular? Not by a longshot. Used to work at a gunstore and I'd say ~maybe~ 5% of our shotguns were 16g. And of those, basically all of them were used/antique

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lighter more compact weapon than 12 while still getting the same coverage at practical bird shot distances.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What niche does it fill that 20 or 12 gauge doesn't?
    It's a compromise load. I think it's a very good compromise and I wished it were more popular so the price of the ammo would be the same as 12g or 20g. But that's not gonna happen.

    I think 12g is more popular simply because it's harder to miss with it using birdshot. But 12g is often overkill.
    I find 20g a bit too anemic.
    16g would be perfect.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Regular 12 and 16 ga loads have the same amount of lead, anon. The two differ in pressure and magnum availability for 12ga.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OK frick it, here's the article.
    >https://projectupland.com/shotguns-and-shooting/shotguns/16-gauge-shotguns/

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Being good. Same concept as .41 Magnum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >41 Magnum.
      So decent performance but an entirely niche round essentially relegated to handloading

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Coolness.
    Shotgun: 16ga
    Pistol: .41 Magnum
    Rifle: .300 Savage
    Rimfire: .22 Long

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Luv shooting clays with me 16, simple nuff

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