Depends on what ammo you use, some hits as hard as 357 magnum and others is as smooth as 9mm.
Buy the Glock 40 so you won't have to get the slide milled when you get a red dot later on.
>MOS plate raises height of the optic
NTA but this has never been an issue for me. The MOS plate can be finicky though and you should get an aftermarket one.
No.
.40 has had much more optimization to the point that there are dozens of 40 hollow point loads that outperform the best 10mm hollow points.
10mm is honestly the biggest reddit cope ever
Yes, but depending on which ammo you use it can be significant recoil which slows follow up shots. If you need to shoot fast followup shots and fast shots at multiple targets you will be faster with a 9mm, or other light recoil guns/cartridges. Missing the target with full power 10mm is a miss while hitting with 9mm is a hit. You may also suffer from flinching if you are recoil intolerant. You really should shoot a variety of pistols with various ammo for each to see which combo fits your hand, ability, and which one you shoot the best. If you are just buying it for fun then sure go ahead. The 10mm ammo is also more expensive. If you buy say a 9mm the ammo is cheaper, they still make +p for it, and you can practice a lot more and being a good shooter is more important than 'muh stopp'n powuh.'
The only hot loads posted were XTPs and FMjs...the rest are loaded to .40 shit and weak specs lol. Im not doing your homework for you, limpwrist. Ill stick with nearly 800lbs of foot energy going at near rifle velocities
>You have a vegana
I've had a G20 for 14 years, and a G22, G17, HK45, CZsp-01, and a compact CZ, and a tight vegana. You are a no gunz turd and I can smell you stench all the way in my mom's basement.
In reality .40 in a single stack in the most balanced pistol for total weight, size, and firepower. Take any single stack pistol and compare the .40 version to the 9mm of the same and it has better ergonomics, and just as good control
10mm has higher case capacity than .40. If you want to talk about the optimal meme load then 10mm will win every time because it can hold more gunpowder.
While that's true, hollow points are designed to expand within a certain threshold of velocity, too slow or too fast and it won't expand properly if at all. Now if it's a discussion of monolithic projectiles like the meme screwdrivers or hardcasts, afaik those only get better the faster you send them
Yes, but depending on which ammo you use it can be significant recoil which slows follow up shots. If you need to shoot fast followup shots and fast shots at multiple targets you will be faster with a 9mm, or other light recoil guns/cartridges. Missing the target with full power 10mm is a miss while hitting with 9mm is a hit. You may also suffer from flinching if you are recoil intolerant. You really should shoot a variety of pistols with various ammo for each to see which combo fits your hand, ability, and which one you shoot the best. If you are just buying it for fun then sure go ahead. The 10mm ammo is also more expensive. If you buy say a 9mm the ammo is cheaper, they still make +p for it, and you can practice a lot more and being a good shooter is more important than 'muh stopp'n powuh.'
Its solid and hits hard. Lots of the commercial ammo is garbage, but luckily its easy to reload and there are some good semi-boutique manufacturers who make use of the full case.
I don't actually need defensive ammo, nothing ever happens here (and no bears),
.40S&W random ~400-500 ft-lb out of 4"
10mm S&B 180gr ~550 ft-lb out of 5" (kek)
Magtech 180gr ~600 ft-lb, 44 cpr
[??]
Underwood 200gr ~700 ft-lb, $1.2+/rd
10mm auto, loaded correctly, is the best semi-auto, general purpose handgun caliber we have. The whole reason it was designed is because 9mm was shown to suck at killing people.
>10mm auto, loaded correctly, is the best semi-auto, general purpose handgun caliber we have
No, that would be this one. Much faster than 10mm, 50k PSI instead of 37k, and no b***h loads.
Depends on what ammo you use, some hits as hard as 357 magnum and others is as smooth as 9mm.
Buy the Glock 40 so you won't have to get the slide milled when you get a red dot later on.
G20 has an mos version now, thank god
But its gen 5 and MOS sucks
why
MOS plate raises height of the optic, just send it to Glockstore and have it milled for RMR
Wager Machine Works is cheap and fast
>MOS plate raises height of the optic
NTA but this has never been an issue for me. The MOS plate can be finicky though and you should get an aftermarket one.
Yep. That’s a definite manstopper. One shot will knock ‘em backwards
But 9mm will blow their lungs clean out of their body, 10mm just seems like overkill.
Depends on self defense for what?
A sketchy gas station accoster? Probably over penetration unless you live kinda rural.
A bear? Perfect gun.
overpenetration has never been an issue for a civilian DGU, it's the equivalent of lightning striking twice. just stop fricking thinking about it
Chambering doesn't matter for self defense.
10mm auto is a chambering for hunting medium game at woodland ranges with autopistols.
No.
.40 has had much more optimization to the point that there are dozens of 40 hollow point loads that outperform the best 10mm hollow points.
10mm is honestly the biggest reddit cope ever
No guns confirmed.
>10mm
Oh no no no no
Now post the results of good SD 10mm you 9manlet
You have a vegana
I did. Curious how you don't have any test data to refute it
>Top performing 10mm load is equivalent to mild 40 load
Oh no no no no
The only hot loads posted were XTPs and FMjs...the rest are loaded to .40 shit and weak specs lol. Im not doing your homework for you, limpwrist. Ill stick with nearly 800lbs of foot energy going at near rifle velocities
>You have a vegana
I've had a G20 for 14 years, and a G22, G17, HK45, CZsp-01, and a compact CZ, and a tight vegana. You are a no gunz turd and I can smell you stench all the way in my mom's basement.
>cz
Reddit homo
>Reddit homo
now that was uncalled for
40 Shit and Waste is literally a baby version of 10mm because 10mm was too spicy for the vegan wrists of the FBI.
>40
Gay meme take
In reality .40 in a single stack in the most balanced pistol for total weight, size, and firepower. Take any single stack pistol and compare the .40 version to the 9mm of the same and it has better ergonomics, and just as good control
Why limit yourself to a singlestack dumbass
Size, moron
>but I EDC a mk23 every day
Sure thing bud, and my daily driver is a Ferrari
10mm has higher case capacity than .40. If you want to talk about the optimal meme load then 10mm will win every time because it can hold more gunpowder.
While that's true, hollow points are designed to expand within a certain threshold of velocity, too slow or too fast and it won't expand properly if at all. Now if it's a discussion of monolithic projectiles like the meme screwdrivers or hardcasts, afaik those only get better the faster you send them
Ugh. I have a hangover and I just can't.
no it's terrible
Yes, but depending on which ammo you use it can be significant recoil which slows follow up shots. If you need to shoot fast followup shots and fast shots at multiple targets you will be faster with a 9mm, or other light recoil guns/cartridges. Missing the target with full power 10mm is a miss while hitting with 9mm is a hit. You may also suffer from flinching if you are recoil intolerant. You really should shoot a variety of pistols with various ammo for each to see which combo fits your hand, ability, and which one you shoot the best. If you are just buying it for fun then sure go ahead. The 10mm ammo is also more expensive. If you buy say a 9mm the ammo is cheaper, they still make +p for it, and you can practice a lot more and being a good shooter is more important than 'muh stopp'n powuh.'
Yeah, if you're dealing with NSF terrorists and MJ12 troops
I very much enjoy my 10mm.
Its solid and hits hard. Lots of the commercial ammo is garbage, but luckily its easy to reload and there are some good semi-boutique manufacturers who make use of the full case.
Yes, especially shooting. 40
You can't be serious.
Yes, but I won't lie, it's the only caliber that made my finger bleed after a few defense rounds through it
thoughts on Magtech JHP as poor/lazy man's defense ammo? basically same price as FMJ, could use jhp as range ammo?
Its loaded to .40 smith and welfare specs. Dont use it
I don't actually need defensive ammo, nothing ever happens here (and no bears),
.40S&W random ~400-500 ft-lb out of 4"
10mm S&B 180gr ~550 ft-lb out of 5" (kek)
Magtech 180gr ~600 ft-lb, 44 cpr
[??]
Underwood 200gr ~700 ft-lb, $1.2+/rd
What's the middle ground ammo then?
>is this a good self defense pistol?
It's more then is needed and the ammo is expensive and if you've got a girl living with you, she won't be able to handle the recoil.
All handguns should be 9mm.
All handguns should be Glocks.
All Glocks should be 19s.
Never forget
>worse penetration than a .375 mag with comparable ammo
Just why bother?
10mm auto, loaded correctly, is the best semi-auto, general purpose handgun caliber we have. The whole reason it was designed is because 9mm was shown to suck at killing people.
>10mm auto, loaded correctly, is the best semi-auto, general purpose handgun caliber we have
No, that would be this one. Much faster than 10mm, 50k PSI instead of 37k, and no b***h loads.
Good dick shooting pistol too
What was his end game bros?
Express vasectomy
Went on a woods walk with my brother and he dropped a 200lb hog like a sack of potatoes at 30yds with one of those bad boys
Can anyone recommend a mag extension for Glock 10mm mags that works?