Looks like Ukraine will colapse in Zaporizhzia as well, Weapons discussion, tactical advantages debate, cope and tears are welcome in this thread.
Looks like Ukraine will colapse in Zaporizhzia as well, Weapons discussion, tactical advantages debate, cope and tears are welcome in this thread.
>Moves everything to bakhmut
>Russia simply starts an offensive somewhere else.
>Russia please fight us only here don't open new front
Would that be your cope and tears, since Girkin says it's definitely gonna fail and he hasn't been wrong yet?
>GAYBAR
wake me up when it's legit
Zisters... Is this our greatest zictory?
>Mom, i posted it again.
Isn´t this picture from the battle of Soledar?, Who won?
The Ukrainians?
The side that still holds soledar is the winner, right?
>The side that still holds soledar
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64330808
Listen, I love the Ukies, and think this war will most likely end in Russia getting Versaille'd, but this is cope
>Picture
I mean, if anything it undersells how many Ukrainian units are in the area.
This is what a "liberated" city looks like according to russians
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME PUTIN
What happened here?
russian pr prostitute in soledar got hit in the knee by shrapnel
Russia's version of a Fox News girl getting shelled in Soledar.
What Russian stupidity. You don't put a propagandist in a unsecured hot zone.
Russian propagandist got shrapnel'd in the knee. They carried her out on a door.
cute
don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
>They carried her out on a door
Oh fug, you're right
Hahahahaha
They wanted to send that door back home.
She just happened to be laying on it
I guess because she was a public figure they couldn't just leave her to bleed out like they normally do with their wounded
Love take off her boots and socks and tenderly massage and wash her sweaty feet back to health
Wtf is wrong with you people?
the door looks like it's a solid core door damn it's probably made out an exotic timber I cant get here like baltic ash or some Siberian hardwood
it’s unironically one of the few things third worlders still get to enjoy that we never will. whenever i travel to places like thailand or latin america i see wood work that people here would pay a fortune for.
As the Spartans used to say, come back with your door, or on it.
>Russian propagandist got shrapnel'd in the knee
From the sound of video doesn't seems to be a shrapnel. No sound of explosion nearby. Seems like single shoot from rifle. Maybe stray bullet maybe aimed shot.
The propaganda war hinges on this picture
>comrade did you say six panel or sick panel?
Her designated simps had to purpose a fricking door to medevac her. b***h should know they wouldn't do that shit to anyone else.
Meh. In 10 years she'll be saying, "Slava Ukraini!" while giving birth to many Ukrainians, with a Ukrainian flag branded on her butt.
Women nature do be cruel like that.
young russian journalist got injured while following Wagner squad, she's fine now.
For some reason troons decided that her bravery and dedication is a laughing matter.
>journalist
Your picture makes her look like a combatant.
especially the manicure.
The gulag frick-meat of Wagner keep themselves pretty too, so it isn't that odd.
>You're laughing. A woman just got crippled for life, and you're laughing?
Subhumans or teens in edgy phase, which essentially is the same thing.
>he calls others edgy while defending russia waging a genocidal war
>genocidal war
Go back.
Yeah you are a shitty person for defending a state that is committing daily war crimes and openly called for the genocide of Ukraine
> committing daily war crimes and openly called for the genocide of Ukraine
It’s all ironic. Just like BLM and troony movements are ironic. Just like making fun of brown people by whites people is all irony.
It’s a joke and you’re taking it too seriously. Nobody is genociding anyone.
Nobody is waging a cultural war on anyone. Nobody really hates feminists or LGBT+.
Why can’t you all take a joke?
you again
I wonder what the chechen rape squads did to her after she was wounded
She seems to be an actual female, so they probably wished her a speedy recovery and went to find some mobik meat to pound.
Plot-twist: in a decade's time, she'll be birthing Ukrainian babies having witnessed the collapse of Russia and needing a new line of work. She'll breed so much, she'll have the Ukrainian flag tattooed on her belly.
Updated version. For reasons.
Also, webm w/ sound someone else posted:
>makes her look like a combatant
Because she was LARPing around the battlefield without any press insignia. Worth watching the selfie vid she was taking when she took incoming (webm linked https://boards.PrepHole.org/wsg/thread/4898853#p4926212). vatBlack folk tried to shoop a press tag on her photos after the fact to cover it up.
Thus, LOL edit and updated adventurer story.
>larping
she's a war journalist you dumb homosexual and It's not like a shrapnel would magically avoid her If she had a PRESS badge.
Having that badge in the field would make her work even more dangerous.
what the frick are you even trying to say here? You probably don't even know yourself, god you're fricking dumbest gorilla Black person
Your posting style is super unique.
Its not hard to follow you around.
Maybe work on that, you fricking gorilla.
why are you even replying to me if you have nothing to say on topic anyway?
Sore loser? Learn to take the L quietly.
Im not the person you were responding to. Im telling you that you stick out like a sore thumb. And yes, your argument is shit because a press badge very well may have prevented the drone operator calling in the strike. Dress like a combatant, get treated as a combatant.
You're fricking stupid, I specifically posted that pic.
It's widely known hohols are targeting journalists who report from russian side.
Not just russian journalists but international too.
If one of them dies or get injured this is a peremoga for any hohol subhuman like it is now.
Look at this thread, celebration. I've seen this spammed on other boards too.
Why are you like this?
>It's widely known hohols are targeting journalists who report from russian side.
>Not just russian journalists but international too.
Projection much? Can't wait until the first BBC journalist gets domed. You're gonna get flooded in tanks.
What are you trying to say you dumb frick? Get your shit together, I'm not your mother to patiently listen to your moronic mumbling.
Only subhuman would find this funny, as I said earlier.
You're a subhuman.
>Only subhuman would find this funny, as I said earlier.
She wasnt wearing her press tags, she went to the front dressed like a solider, within moments of her arrival at the front she got treated like a Russian soldier. Its hilarious.
oh, and the Russian army is so fricking ramshackle they had to use a door for a stretcher. Which just adds to the hilarity.
>Only subhuman would find this funny, as I said earlier.
>propagandist (not a journo) gets her knee shredded because she was larping as a soldier in a combat zone
We are now entering Stage 5 of arguing with a Russian Nationalist: Depression.
Its perfect too because its not a severe injury, she didnt lose her leg, she is completely fine. Its guilt free utter hilarity.
Exactly. If she had her face removed or bled out after shrapnel ripped open her stomach- I might feel pity. She's fine, it's funny all around and hopefully she learned a lesson.
So what you're saying is when journalist gets injured by hohols its automatically becomes a "propagandist(not a journalist)"?
That is so freaky mental gymnastics. Do you even realize you're the one who sound like an absolutely brainwashed moron here?
Subhuman.
>journalist
>in combat fatigues
>not wearing press insignia
Fair game. Funny too. Simple as.
Listen to yourself, I know it's hard for you worthless subhuman trash to stop slurping shit from the group, but bear with me.
The things I hear from you
1. She's not wearing PRESS badge.
2. PRESS badge is photoshopped (how does the badge even matter anyway still no explanation)
3. It's okay to laugh at this because she's not dead.
4. It's okay to laugh because she's propagandist(not journalist).
Are you just repeating what you heard from others because you can't think for yourself?
>(how does the badge even matter anyway still no explanation)
see
>Are you just repeating what you heard from others because you can't think for yourself?
No, thats what I genuinely think. Its a comedy of errors on her part and the entire affair has been emblematic of the Russian war-effort thus far.
This is NOT the question of press badge.
I'm asking YOU why are you making fun of a young journalist girl who got injured while traveling with the most dangerous people in most dangerous place?
Why can it be funny to anyone, unless you are a SUBHUMAN filth, which of course you are indeed.
>unless you are a SUBHUMAN filth
Good morning, sir.
That was a valiant but destined to fail effort from me to make you question the hohol narrative.
See you after bakhmut crumbles.
Good will always prevail in the end.
>Good will always prevail in the end.
Well we didn't nuke the soviets immediately after WW2, so no, not really.
>See you after bakhmut crumbles.
two more weeks?
The real subhumans are the ones invading a country to steal their land and rape their people and everyone who thinks they are right to do so.
>This is NOT the question of press badge.
It is entirely a question of a press badge.
>I'm asking YOU why are you making fun of a young journalist girl who got injured while traveling with the most dangerous people in most dangerous place?
Because she LARPed as a Russian soldier and got treated to the russian soldier experience, and then got carried out on a door. Thats hilarious.
Im sorry this upsets you.
1. telegram thot running around pretending to be soldat
2. gets wounded (not killed or seriously hurt)
3. gets carried out on a fricking door
4. poorly photoshops a fricking press tag on her after the fact
5. Only article that suggests Ukrop are targeting journos is from fricking RT
6. She's less hurt than your gaping pulsating butthole
would also be okay to laugh if she was dead
>1. She's not wearing PRESS badge.
You should clearly mark yourself as a member of the press, this alone is enough to exonerate Ukraine
> 4. It's okay to laugh because she's propagandist(not journalist).
Yes, I'm going to laugh at her. Dumb b***h made her money convincing people to slaughter a whole generation of men in Russia and Ukraine, dumb b***h eats shrapnel just like those men, sweet irony.
So satan, why did they photoshop a fricking press badge on her? All I've found is that she's a blogger and telegram.
>So what you're saying is when journalist gets injured by hohols its automatically becomes a "propagandist(not a journalist)"?
Yes, they're Russian, they are lying nearly 100% of the time, this isn't a joke, it's objective, observable truth.
Its extremely funny. Hope all russians get a taste of the war they started like she did. Then i also hope all traitors in the west supporting russia get hanged.
>Why are you like this?
Because its funny,
>It's widely known hohols are targeting journalists who report from russian side.
HUGE if true! Link?
liar
ukranians shelled the hotel in Donetsk journalists live multiple times.
With NATO-provided ammunition of course.
This is the source for the pic I posted.
>Eva Bartlett
Are you fricking serious?
This is the reaction I've been witnessing from you.
>rt
>Eva Bartlett
>known shitposter
>rt
>that video
they forgot something
Based Ukies exterminating warmongering propagandists.
Eva Bartlett
>Eva Karene Bartlett is an American Canadian activist, commentator, and blogger who has propagated conspiracy theories in connection to the Syrian civil war,[1][2][3] most notably the disproven allegation that the White Helmets stage rescues and "recycle" children in its videos.[1][4][5][6]
Bartlett describes herself as an "independent writer and rights activist."[4] She writes commentary pieces for Russian state-controlled RT's website.[note 1][8][9] Critics contend that her advocacy amounts to participation in a disinformation campaign aimed at lessening the responsibility of the Assad regime for the acts of indiscriminate killing during the war, and to promote pro-Kremlin content in relation to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[10] Her posts on social media have been tagged with the disclaimer that her writings "may be partially or wholly under the editorial control of the Russian government."[11]
Bartlett has been living in Russia since 2019. She has been making videos and posts on social media from Ukraine during the Russian invasion, sometimes with journalists from RT. She often appears as a guest on RT. She has been criticised for spreading Kremlin propaganda and misinformation.
KYS vatnik.
Good.
>Why are you like this?
The fact you have to ask that should explain why we fricking hate you and Russians in Ukraine deserve everything they get.
>Having that badge in the field would make her work even more dangerous.
No. Exactly the opposite, that's why the entire world agreed not to shoot the press. I know that vatBlack folk don't understand basic decency and international conventions, but the reason why the Red Cross wears a Red Cross, or that journalists wear identification that says "PRESS," is so that they DON'T get shot at. This idiot fricking twit was taking a fricking selfie in a war zone for her propaganda outlet, but neglected to wear her most fundamental protection, and she found the frick out. Which is instant karma and funny as all fricking Hell.
The vatnicks who had to carry her out realized how hard she fricked up by not wearing her PRESS tags and LARPing as a soldats immediately photoshopped a press tag (badly) onto her picture to try and cover it up and make an international incident out of "The PRESS is being targeted!" No. She's a fricking idiot in a war zone masquerading as a soldats. She fricked around and found out. Besides, she doesn't qualify as a "journalist." She's a propagandist who posts bullshit on a telegram channel for updoots.
But I get it that vatBlack folk think it's a giggle to use people wearing INTERNATIONALLY AGREED UPON IDENTIFICATION for target practice, because you're such fricking despicable cowards it gives (You) a hard-on to murder innocent people who can't fight back. (You) fricking piece of ape shit.
>bravery and dedication
Trying to parade around an active warzone to film state propaganda sounds more like stupidity to me.
Jumping in the middle of an interstate highway during a snowstorm to film a car crash would be considered "brave" to you while everyone else would realize what a fricking moron you are.
where is her "press" vest? All journalists in the frontline wear a vest that writes "press" on it with huge fonts so everyone can see them.
And this is the best /k/ has to cope after the fall of Soledar, the encyrcle of Bakmut, the dead of ukraine minister and the open front in Zapo?
Calm down, there is no need to be upset.
Why do these vatBlack folk always embarrass themselves on Tik Tok and then proceed to post their humiliating bumbling?
Because they stream live, and because they think this is normal and not a testament to their embarrassment.
Also, these propagandists usually stream from places they consider safe (e.g. artillery positions considered not under threat of counter-battery fire, villages 30km from the front, a park in Belgorod so maybe they bought into the hype and thought it would be business as usual.
>devil horns with a smile
Nice political theatre there.
Zapo you took a few undefended villages that are in the grey zone and move forward a few hundred metres and lost a few companies of men. its fricking pathetic actually
Russian soldiers die, I feel bittersweet. Russian journos die, I get an uncontrollable erection.
/k/ was always the true incel chud
FRICKING BANDERITE wienerSUCKERS WHY WON'T THEY LET HER INSTATHOT IN PEACE?
That's actually heckin' cute AF ngl
So hot
>Do you think love can bloom even on a battlefield?
>Yeah. I do. I think at any time, any place, people can fall in love with each other.
Had one of the shittiest day but this made me laugh, god bless anon
Hearty laugh from me, anon
Not my proudest fap, at least she cute.
Future Broodmare for Ukraine.
the funniest part about seeing this image reposted is that I can't tell if it's someone mocking vatnigs, or if they're literally too stupid to understand why it's such an embarrassment to post
That's the main issue when debating those subhuman grey-Black folk. They're so ridiculously stupid that they don't use arguments, but rely entirely on memes. They could send 100 Russians to kill one Ukrainian. The Ukrainian could kill 99 of the Russians before dying himself, and the ratBlack folk would consider that a proud victory and a sign of their superiority, despite the fact that their performance would be a result of pure incompetence and degeneracy.
They're so devoid of basic humanity and standards that it boggles the mind. I can't fathom how anyone would support those things, and in turn place themselves below the lowest creature on the planet.
It produces a negative reaction from other people, granting them the attention their single mom never gave them.
It's a perfect encapsulation of how brownoids think (using that word very loosely here), and why they're shit at everything including the act of shitting itself.
Hey, I help maintain that map. The original anyway.
I'll give you money IRL if you make a proper version that has the Ukrainian units in that picture and like one single Russian unit that happens to be a field army.
i will do nothing
The force dispositions here are fricking hilarious. Vatniks will actually pretend a few brigades of infantry defending against a corps is equivalent.
Its more we just don't have the transparency as to troop positions. There's a lot of info about ukrainian units out there just from the sheer volume of media. Russians there's frick all.
If you actually are a person who works on that map, I don't blame you for not having equivalent coverage of the Russian side. That being said, I'd like it if you could team up with another group doing the same job for the Russian side, just to get a semi-accurate disposition of units for the Russians.
Like, to anyone who knows how to read NATO symbology your map is perfectly clear, very accurate in fact. Not something you normally see in the public domain. But to morons it shows that the Ukrainians are being beaten, just on the edge of defeat, look at all of these units defending against a Russian PMC, etc.
I know it's not your fault that people are ignorant but there are propagandists who use these sorts of things as material.
That's the funniest part. An IBCT on the defensive would frick up Wagner to the point they wouldn't even know that the IBCT was there, just that any time they see Bakhmut they get vaporized.
Ah we have russoids with us, there just isnt as much social media and videos to decipher more accurate stuff. Frankly dont care how morons abuse it, its there to show things to our best knowledge and ability, nothing more.
>its there to show things to our best knowledge and ability, nothing more.
Chads.
>few brigades of mostly super-light infantry that is TDF
ftfy
Ukrainians btw
You wish sister. Those are Russian corpses
Just this morning I read an article from my state owned news organisation claiming that the pentagon has specifically advised the AFU NOT to attack, as they need more time to practice with their new vehicles
I did wonder what chance there was of the ukies actually following this advice given the enthusiasm they've displayed so far
Oh wait, this thread is about a russian "attack"
Lol, lmao
>Rybar
THEY BLEW UP A GOLF CART OH THE HUMANITY oh and some bored guy who was just standing around in Stepove.
AREN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO STEP IN STEPOVE, CAN'T HAVE SHIT IN UKRAINE.
Also
>Orikhiv
>ORK HIV
No wonder the Russians want it so bad.
>HIV butthurt post
despair cope and rage.
>2 more weeks
you can always tell it's the same pajeet from the thread titles
I wish he'd frick off, honestly. I'd say ban the entire Russian and Indian IP range, but there are a few Russians who post here who hate their country and rightfully so, and I like hearing their stories.
>Koper crying to mods to create a "comfort zone" to cope and shill for ukraine.
Pathetic
not him, but i'd be just as happy to see you frickers mobilized, droned, and eaten by dogs.
And they say reddit didn't migrate here, when you start to BTFO them in a serious discussion its an instant ban.
>russia is losing to this
ngmi
Why are you posting men's feet you fricking gay
footgays deserve death
Ar*b shitposter detected
I mean, I'd rather just skip the foreplay and get WW3 started already... Because I'd really like to kill you. This is a moderate position.
He's American anon, you'd have to go full Vietnam to kill him.
This was supposed to be a recon in force mission to test enemy defenses but they ended up flat out breaking the first line of defense and taking several settlements, the big offensive is coming in February most likely, but this showed that the losses took a high tool for the AFU, south and north are badly defended, east can barely hold itself against Wagner, February and March will be very bloody for ukraine, they'll probably ask for negotiations, which Russia will decline, NATO nations will start breaking rank, Germany already begun.
But why are you brown?
I saw some romanian flag calling people brown in pol, are you a romanian gypsi calling people brown? if so, why are you brown?
Whiter than you Pedro
i like how you can tell word for word how these slimy little weasels operate from this one post
>people occasionally tell moronic vatBlack folk that bakhmut was a temporary line of defense that everyone expected to fall months ago
>instantly flips it on it's head and says that UUUUH ACTUALLY THIS SMALL TERRITORIAL GAIN WE MADE WAS ACTUALLY ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE RECON HURR
Black person can you stop being so fricking predictable, i can smell the alcohol on your breath from two miles away.
i get that this whole war means a lot to you and you are desperate for any kind of victory but you can't just make up bullshit on the spot, it has to be real.
>hurr an assault with 30 T-72s, 40 BMPs and 40 BTRs is just a recon
It's so tiresome.
May i see the proof?
The other part of it they are quite literally recycling what was said to them earlier. In this example, it's recycling what was said during the Kharkiv counteroffensive.
It's so fricking ouvert.
>several settlements
Can I see them?
You literally just drew on a map with mspaint.
Problem?
In your head, mostly.
Yes. A brain tumor, probably. You only have two more weeks to live, vatnik-kun.
And neither Ukranian nor Russian sources are claiming any of these are presently even contested, let alone being taken, other than weird copium filled telegram channels
Why are Russian sources disagreeing with you?
>it was a sizeable offensive
>it was not conducted well
>they advanced towards settlements at the edge of the grey zone (tm)
>they lost and retreated back past the grey zone (tm)
The Ziggers are in their own reality separated from what the Russian MOD and Wagner official statements are. Intel Slava Z uses /chug as a source for example
What's the Intel Slava Z Black person again? Moldovan? Serbian?
I wanna say Serbian. Ziggers still post it but they crop out the source in the pictures now
He's Moldovan, but he got arrested for trying to run guns to the Russians across the border apparently. I'm probably wrong about the border bit, because that would mean this Black person was going to drive through Transnistria, through Ukraine and then directly into the Russian frontline with a car load of weapons which is moronic even by Pro-Russian standards.
>this Black person was going to drive through Transnistria, through Ukraine and then directly into the Russian frontline with a car load of weapons which is moronic even by Pro-Russian standards.
So, confirmed then. Exactly what he did. Rest in Piss, Incel Semen Z.
I'm not even citing the MoD here.
Even woolhead propagandist channels like Rusich are saying things like "the commander of that operation needs to be castrated".
Which one. I was just pointing out that the Ztards here are are so far off the deep end that they ignore their own sides official sources for their own bs
>when you're more insane than the people sending thousands of mobiks to die everyday over biolabs and Putin's next dacha
>recon
>hohol sources claiming the same day t they received the biggest amount of artillery strikes in one day
that's not how recon works
How much counter battery fire was there? Even just artillery fire and how they respond to it can give you an idea of your enemy's defense and material situation. It's why Zelinsky is howling nonstop for the tanks. they have bodies to hold the line, but no armor reserve left in case of breakthroughs. Or to attack for that matter.
you don't conduct a recon and instantly take several settlements and don't fire a record amount of shells, that's a suppressing fire.
There was a recon probably a day before that.
Russians didn't take several settlements though. They took an already abandoned village in no man's land
thats a lie, there are literally videos of russian troops entering hohol trenches.
Overall they moved around 7km in deep.
Okay. So how long until Bakhmut falls? Rough estimate.
Ask zelensky, he's the one refusing to withdraw troops from dire situation.
No, I'm asking you. Give an estimate for when Bakhmut falls.
>morons who know literally nothing about warfare coming onto a board focused on warfare and talking shit as if nobody will call them out
That's not even close to enemy artillery range you fricking clown. Literally any artillery system made in the last 80 years will be able to saturate your cute little captured trenches by taking maybe two charge bags away.
Come back when you've achieved a proper breakthrough and have encircled any Ukrainian unit above a company.
There was artillery fire trying to stop them but in the end RF army took the height advantage.
Come back when you actually know anything about the conflict, b***hing and whining loudly can not be considered an argument.
Okay. When do you think Bakhmut will fall?
I think the key to the humor is the subtly obvious ESL.
Green is around freed settlements, red are area of attacks.
Gulyai pole is being also attacked by marines.
>in the end RF army took the height advantage.
the single abandoned village they took is like100m lower than the surrounding area
and that was also the reason why nobody wanted it because on both sides its surrounded by hills where the enemy has superior artillery positions
And if those Russians want to continue to advance their gonna have to fight uphill lmao
You got a source for that. Because the Russian MOD disagrees with you
source for what?
lol
lmao
>this is what russian offensive looks like
kek
>"w-we totally wrecked first line of defense tho!! trust me!!!"
rofl
There is a video where they advance with few tanks and bmp under artillery fire and then jump out of BMP and spread over the field.
>they'll probably ask for negotiations, which Russia will decline, NATO nations will start breaking rank, Germany already begun.
You mean like all the negotiations putin literally videod himself begging on his arthritis ridden knees and zelensky peed on his face in response.
You are referring also to the CSTO completely dissapearing within first few months of their first ever conflict.
And CSTO is all annexed puppets of russia who are all smarter than vatniks since they are ignoring this war and are instead fighting eachother.
The west has already completed their decoupling and can simply delegitimize out of hand any Russian maneuver. They have the opportunity to break Russia to the point of forcing them to denuclearize, if not outright destroy it as a nation, you'd have to be mad to think they'd break ranks at this point, especially when all the hard times standing up to Russia caused are behind them, and recoupling would be political suicide at this point.
The outcome flowchart is already here, and it has about 4 credible outcomes:
>Early settled outcome, Ukranian Victory.
Russia trades its warcriminals, its collaborators, and agrees to hand over the LDR, DPR and Crimea without further fighting, but in return reparations are taken completely off the table and the west is to end all sanctions. This is the best outcome for Russia, and would frick over the wests plans utterly, but will come with a catastrophic loss of face for Russia. But they walk out with a chance for revival, a workable portion of their army and reserves left, and most importantly, their nuclear arsenal.
>Late settled outcome, Ukranian Victory:
Implementation of the "Peace Formula". Will most likely result in Russia entering a generation long recession and decline. Should Russia try to renegotiate it, the west will already have the demand of complete denuclearization ready.
>Total Victory, Ukranian:
Its over for Russia. What would await them is nothing short of a Versaille-style sodomy session that will go down in absolute fricking infamy. Denuclearization, denationalization of its natural resources, the end of their support of the Georgian and Moldovan seperatists, a ban on weapon exports to and from Russia, and most likely the complete implosion of its economy and national unity in the aftermath.
>Any variation of Russian victory:
The west turns Russia into the next North Korea. Nations can choose to deal with it or deal with the west, and for all but 2 of them this is an easy decision.
The sanctions are working guys, I swear!
>t. Someone who doesn't know economy, and thinks the west is just dumb for not doing all the things Russia did to "subvert the sanctions" themselves in order to boost their own economy.
Oh no my dude, back when 2014 happened, the west was still closely coupled with Russia and in the middle of a normalization effort just as they pulled that shit. Back then, going economically nuclear on Russia would've been both incredibly painful to them, unlikely to see everyone hold the line and would have widely been seen as an overreaction, given that Crimea was seen by the west as something that "just happened".
This is different. The west has almost fully decoupled and most certainly of everything that could heavily disrupt them. The west is fully aligned and there is immense political pressure on holding the line, and people want Russia to be crushed utterly.
This means they have cart blanche to sodomize Russia. They'll simply declare that all Russian assets on their own soil are forfeit and then give everyone a very, very simple ultimatum; either completely decouple yourself from Russia as well, or be decoupled from us. Essentially, they would declare Russia to have entered in a national suicide pact, and all who follow it would go with it. When choosing between nearly 60% of the world economy and a measly 1.7%, its a fairly obvious decision for anyone other than North Korea and maybe Iran. That is the sheer difference in soft power we are talking about, and what the west can leverage to frick over Russia for this.
All evidence point towards the West wanting to use this as an excuse to rid themselves of the Russian problem for good, with the full backing of their own institutions and populace, so I'm not sure why, when they have every excuse to fully bring down the boot on Russia's neck they'd suddenly call it quit because their mascot is out of commission.
Dude the sanctions have barely done any damage to Russia but the lost access to cheap commodities has cost several trillion dollars of western wealth to be wiped out.
>Dude the sanctions have barely done any damage to Russia but the lost access to cheap commodities has cost several trillion dollars of western wealth to be wiped out.
bait
What bait lmao
Go watch videos of Russian grocery stores, life moves on.
They can't make as many vehicles - okay. Meanwhile the cost of living in the west is up like 50%.
>areas such as food, agriculture, health and pharma are excluded from the imposed restrictive measures.
>For now
WAO GROCERY STORES
>Meanwhile the cost of living in the west is up like 50%.
it was going insane long before the war
According to most sources, the west has suffered a cost of living increase of about 10-12% contrasted to a global increase of 8%, while Russia has suffered an increase of 14%. So Russia definitely hasn't been trading evenly in that department. Though, this mostly refers to the "basket of essentials" and isn't a properly indexed number to be contrasted against an overall. So lets hop over to our consumer price indexes, shall we! Keep in mind, higher is worse, and we shall measure from February 2022 to December 2022.
>Netherlands: 115-> 125
>UK: 114->127
>Germany: 112->120
>Euro Area: 112 -> 120, same as germany
>US: 283 -> 296
>Russia: 211->231
Seeing a pattern here? Correct! At the absolute best (for Russia), they are trading economic blows evenly, but Russia is doing so after putting in several measures that led to the destruction of the credibility of their currency, a market rigged for a crash due to price controls and permanent investor flight. Even nations fairly closely coupled to Russia like Germany and the Netherlands weren't really disproportionately affected. The situation has also been stabilizing if not going down since June in pretty much all named nations except for the UK
Those stats are fake and not representative of cost of living, if you tracked your grocery bills, look at rent prices, car prices, etc. it's increased radically, way more than 12%
post yours
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rental-costs-canada-1.6685602
Notice how in the article, they mention inflation is only 6.9%, rents have only gone up 12.4%, but in every city rents are up 20-35%?
National statistics are thoroughly cooked books and have no relation to reality.
>if you tracked your grocery bills, look at rent prices, car prices
post yours
So we speedran to the bad faith part of the discussion huh?
no kher?
...Russia doesn't even have several trillion dollars to trade you fricking moron.
The lost inputs at the base level increase the cost at every layer above that.
An increase in base commodities like national gas, cobalt, wheat, etc. will radically push retail good prices up because each distributor in the chain increases prices to compensate for lost income.
Sounds like a violation of supply and demand.
No you are just moronic
>Commodity prices go up 50% due to futures trading
>Natural gas gets produced and sold to distributor
>Distributor raises their prices 50% due to increased input cost and then increases it further so they can maintain a 10% net profit
>Companies that buy the natural gas to make products then raise their prices to compensate for higher input costs, and then increase it further to maintain their margin
>Wholesalers who buy the products for retail distribution raise their prices to retailers to maintain their margin
>Retailers raise their prices to the end customer to maintain their margin
>Customers demand higher wages to compensate for increased prices lowering their standard of living
>Inflation gets out of control and self-feeding, massively increases the cost of living
Basic economics/business dynamics. The war has been far more economically destructive to the world economy than to Russia itself, by at least an order of magnitude.
>The war has been far more economically destructive to the world economy than to Russia itself, by at least an order of magnitude.
Again. Bait.
What's a bigger number, 10% of 100 Billion or 1% of 10 trillion?
my standard of living hasn't changed at all since the war started. i don't give a frick how this-or-that country is doing economically. sounds like you're trying to cope with russia's inability to prosecute a modern war.
t. bong
That's because you're a neet who lives with mum
Meanwhile she is sucking wieners to meet ends meet
more butthurt, please
>my standard of living hasn't changed at all since the war started. i don't give a frick how this-or-that country is doing economically. sounds like you're trying to cope with russia's inability to prosecute a modern war.
>t. bong
better ask your mommy how much the heat bill was, or how much the tendies cost at the dinner table tonite
>Basic economics/business dynamics. The war has been far more economically destructive to the world economy than to Russia itself, by at least an order of magnitude.
the failed invasion of Russia literally dismantled the entire western economic order, in less than 11 months
>Again. Bait.
lmfao, you nafo b***hes are pathetic, i cant believe you are real
>"every post that isnt a ukraine shill is rules-for-radicals bullet points!"
the absolute state of government preparation for arguing on PrepHole directly reflects the absolute and total failure of their military prosecution of this war to a "T"
You're here all day long, Indiana. There is no way you make your own living.
My energy bills doubled, my mortgage rate is up to nearly 10%, and the price of most food is up 30-40%.
I know your parents pay for everything, so it seems like nothing has changed, but people who actually support themselves are suffering.
put a jumper on
I will loot your fricking house when this country collapses, and I will feel good about it.
no you wont incel
I’m literally married, but okay.
I guess we’ll find out, but I honestly don’t think it would affect me that much. I feel bad when I slaughter one of my chickens, but I think they provide more social value than you.
i don't know why you're seething this much at me for eating delicious, low-cost polish food and wearing layers
I hope the Ukrainians accidentally bomb you next.
Remember that? Two farmers killed by friendly fire. I heard they had to bring in Poland’s top mathematician to count the bodies.
i'm just plain english you stupid mong. i don't know why you're seething at me.
God, it’s no fun shitting on you when you don’t even attempt a funny retort.
I guess this is why Polish comedy is so world renowned.
i'm an anglo
That makes it sadder.
We’re supposed to be funny.
I guess if you couldn’t make it at home it makes sense to piss off to the second world. And hey, if you can’t afford the Mail order bride, why not go to the source and pick from the reject pile?
>My energy bills doubled, my mortgage rate is up to nearly 10%, and the price of most food is up 30-40%.
>I know your parents pay for everything, so it seems like nothing has changed, but people who actually support themselves are suffering.
nafo are literal actual children, and fricking homosexual pogs on military bases
if the price of videogames or frozen pizza didnt change, they'll have no fricking clue what your even talking about.
for "adults" and anyone with more than one mouth to take care of, the failed invasion of Russia has utterly and completely collapsed the financial reality of your life.
food is something like 3x what it used to be, and thats a multiplier if you have any additional mouths to feed.
Gas, 3x'd or 4x'd depending on the time of year, and every other product is like 25% or MORE expensive than it was compared to pre-war
when the petrodollar gets dumped, the US is going to feel a shock that not even 9/11 could do.
FRICK, the failed invasion of Russia has ALREADY had a greater economic impact than 9/11, if you look at gas$, energy$ and food$ alone
>the failed invasion of Russia
Take your meds.
>food is something like 3x what it used to be
Take your meds.
Why arent you seeking refuse in russia then?
*refuge
Its about 1000 bucks a year extra for every mouth. For most people that means eating out less and cooking more. For the vast majority of the population, its very manageable. the rest pf your ramblings are pure fiction.
>Its about 1000 bucks a year extra for every mouth. For most people that means eating out less and cooking more. For the vast majority of the population, its very manageable. the rest pf your ramblings are pure fiction.
youre so fricking full of shit its unreal simple google searches of the prices of energy and fuel in europe and America directly refute what your saying with absolutely zero effort, that I will not perform for you
you're delusional, the only thing i hear from everyone around is that the higher prices suck and they might have to go on vacation less now. if this fricking apocalyptic scenario you're unfolding in your brain is actually real where is all the massive panic and starving people?
I think I should elaborate on this first point.
Everything Russia did to subvert the sanctions was Putin thinking an inevitable economic crash was vastly preferable to taking an L.
They worked, but there is a reason why no sane nation would ever use any of these measures outside of staving off an existential threat to its existence; all these measures, without exception, buy you a few years of economic stability in exchange for potentially decades of economic upheaval. Once this conflict is over, nobody will want to trade in rubles because its value will remain suspect for years, and nobody will want to invest in Russia because they are no longer a safe place for investment. In order to subvert western sanctions, they pulled a bait and switch on their investors, and they will pay the price for this for decades to come. Russia's economic growth isn't coming back once the war ends safe for the Chinese buying everything up.
The entire world economy is a trust-based system, and Russia openly broke the trust. And the cost of this won't be due for another year or two.
Or what will happen is Russia will simply hold onto what they have already taken and the fighting will die down over time, like in 2014
Don't chug ukrop cum because you refuse to chug vatBlack person cum
Wishing the best for all Russian Federation guys there. Fighting the good fight against globalism.
And these guys go on and about inorganic posters lmao
I hate Black folk so god damn much. Wish we stopped sending aid to that shithole and shot anyone who tried to go to Europe
>Rybar cope maps
Kek. The last time zigger shills got obsessed with those, the Kharkiv counteroffensive happened.
Well the russians did move a lot of units to the area recently inlcuding supporting units like trucks and tankers. This has been supported by satellite imagery. I reckon yesterday's unsuccessful attacks were mostly reconnaissance. We'll see how it goes.
vatnik i get that in Black person society claiming a few meters in battle is some grand victory but most other first world countries left this kind of fighting behind in ww1 and we're getting secondhand embarassment watching you do this.
you can keep screaming about however many square meters you got today. just know that it won't revive all the vatniks you killed for it, it also won't undo the reality that ukraine will do another counteroffensive at some point this year where it liberates more ground in 1 week than you will have in the previous 5 months.
Huh? Are Russians still celebrating their destruction? Zapo is looking to be another killing field, Russians are getting slaughtered there like Bakhmut
They think that amount of losses is sustainable.
I take it things have gone poorly then, given by the amount of "RUSSIA STRONK" and Wagner threads we've had for the last two days.
Come on then Zizterz, tell me what's gone wrong this time?
>”colapse”
i’m not sure you understand what ”collapse” means.
The Russian MOD isn't claiming to be that successful there. They only claimed to have taken Lobkove. And independent Russian bloggers are b***hing that those forces were sent in with little to no heavy support
it was an undefended village too. literally walked in. the rest was running through a hail of drone bombs and artillery shells on open fields with predictable results
Honestly embarrassing for the Zigs that they keep wheeling out Rybar. You'd think they'd learn after his Kherson meltdown and his Lyman/Izyman/Kupanisk delusions
>Little to not heavy support
Does Russia even HAVE any of that, lol?
It's a Vatnik Demoralization Thread!
This is just Russian shaping of the battlefield.
Next comes the Belarus feint.
Within 2 weeks, the main blow near Kharkiv will fall that will drive to Poltava and the Dnieper.
How many trucks for the bakhmut massacre? 100 at minimum
Wagner Group and the Russian Military take turns on who should play the "civilized one". They're both barbarians, but every now and then, they make play they're still human.
Yeah or it's another staged pic for propaganda purposes. The only thing Wagner can produce.
I like how they have to emphasize that they treat the bodies with dignity and desperately try to paint themselves as the good guys. Puccian propaganda is ALWAYS like this.
now I see why germany donated them so many trucks
20 to a truck, 20 trucks, 5 batches, sounds like 2,000. That doesn't sound light for three days. They'd lose 300,000 a year at that rate
this front is 60km long, there is no way hohols are defending it while simultaneously "holding bakhmut".
There is a lot of talk about next front opening up and the sooner that will happen the faster all other lines will collapse.
Zelensky usual idiotic stubbornness can possibly will give RF army an easy win.
Well, according to the spam on /k/ catalog Ukrainians are actually collapsing in three different fronts at the same time today.
Ahem, akshually, soon the great mighty puccian army will capture and publicly execute six million zelenskyys and the vile hato monsters will bow down to the saviors of the white race.
only on donetsk front because Zaporojie front just opened and Lugansk front is back and forth.
>"Well, according to the spam on /k/ catalog Ukrainians are actually collapsing in three different fronts at the same time today."
its because thats precisely whats happening
you absolute homosexuals failed your fricking rediculous, insane invasion of Russia so spectacularly, it simultaneously collapsed the US petro-dollar, and shattered the nato alliance
Western military hegemony is a fricking PAPER TIGER JOKE 100% confirmed.
you can write all the stupid b***h essays you want, but the territory formerly known as 'the ukraine' is historical foot note now, and Russia will write its future and there is absolutely nothing you dumb homosexuals can do about it.
nothing
Russia won, you tried to invade it, failed, and you join the long list of dipshits who have done the same thing, and got the same result
>Russia won, you tried to invade it, failed, and you join the long list of dipshits who have done the same thing, and got the same result
They will never admit that they went to war with russia lol. Best thing one can hope for is the utter destruction of Poland and the baltic shitholes so that later these defeats would be showed down their throats every time any pole or baltshit opens his filthy mouth.
>Best thing one can hope for is the utter destruction of Poland and the baltic shitholes so that later these defeats would be showed down their throats every time any pole or baltshit opens his filthy mouth.
ive never seen a group of people so worthy of a fate either.
butthurt belters deserve it, they really do
>Invasion of Russia
Aight lads, I found the schizo
So, what happened there? Did Russia flood Canada with refugees? Did they literally blow up houses? Or are many urban areas across the globe seeing rent explosions because landlords spent the last 2 years having to defer rent collection form people who would never be able to pay it back and now have to catch up.
>Muh heating bill
Soared in the summer on account of our govenrments buying up all the gas to facilitate the full decoupling, and has since come down to pre-invasion standards.
went from 50 to 55 per major trip so that tracks perfectly.
Currently suffing a bit of a belated winter bump but previous to that it was below invasion prices. Though yes, mid-decoupling shit was fairly harsh.
I know everyone with a frontal lobe understands this, but half the shit that is attributed to the invasion is still fallout from the Covid tyranny, most notably rent and house prices because those are in no way affected by this shit. It was literally the reason Russia thought they could get away with this shit; no way the west would engage in economic warfare when they were facing that particular self-crafted disaster.
>So, what happened there? Did Russia flood Canada with refugees? Did they literally blow up houses? Or are many urban areas across the globe seeing rent explosions because landlords spent the last 2 years having to defer rent collection form people who would never be able to pay it back and now have to catch up.
Inflation is causing everything to go up that much
>3 tanks destroyed and a couple of human waves that had to go back because of artillery saturation
That was the result today.
Probably probing Ukrainian defense before a major offensive soon?
Wich one?
Is the level of craziness above the baseline at this point? What is being covered up?
>What is being covered up?
380k ukrainian deaths
hohols have lost an entire demographic portion of their contested 'ethnicity'
Kiev in 2 days, Berlin in two weeks! *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~
>380k ukrainian deaths
Stupid NAFO shill, 380k deaths? Intentionally using *only* deaths to hide the actual casualty rate. There is a 3:1 ratio deaths to wounded, the actual casualty number is easily 1.6 million for the oinkrainians. And that's a lowball estimate based on numbers from when the hohols disintegrated on first contact, it's probably closer to 2 million at this point.
So you ae admitting that r*ssians already murdered 380k Ukrainians?
Actually all ukranian losses are from their own air defense that was trying to shoot down their own rockets on their way to belgorod
Their offensive probably failed miserably like the last one did at Pavlivka.
I was personally expecting an attack from the South when the weather got better and they had more troops to carry it out with, since the ones they have down there have just been continuously building trenchworks and fortifications with no real lull in activity.
ukraine;s soccer moms human waves isn't doing well against the russians meat grinder right now
and there aren't enough ukraine men left
I want to hear a prediction of when Bakhmut will fall.
1+1 weeks.
It's doing exemplarly, Soledar is a small town of no strategic importance. The actual frontline movements have been frozen for months, and throwing thousands of mobiks to die for a nothing town isn't going to help Russia endure further offensives later in the year.
You're essentially bragging about killing yourself. This is how offensively stupid you are.
Dude keep going this shit is actually pretty funny.
>it was never a important city.
Okay, when will Bakhmut fall then?
When ukraine run out of hohols, sadly.
Give an estimate, how long until Bakhmut falls? You clearly don't even trust your own sources if you can't come up with that.
>subhuman shitskin reading comprehension
I remember smugposting like this talking about Bakhmut falling by Christmas. It's almost February homie.
I'm so bored of this war.
I wanted conflict for so long and this is the dogshit we get.
There a supply route going through Zaporojie to DNR.
Taking it under control will make liberation of DNR an easier job.
That is a main goal of current offensive actions from russian army.
Its getting pretty tiring to see the russian shills calling the war won whenever the mere HINT of them gaining 3 square meters of ground drops. Half of the time its not even true and the other half it is and they lose what they gained and more the next day.
>Zaporizhzhia front Update: "military activity sharply invreased"
Sure Ziggers are trying their good old tactic of sending few dozen of mobiks with barely any support against prepared defenses.
I mean techically it is increased activity.
What's the tactical advantage of admitting to 13% of killed whose bodies were recovered?
>can't even take Soledar
>now starting human waves in the south again
when I can't believe russimians could be more moronic they immediately prove me wrong
>Orikhiv
Great, another nothing town of sub-50k population that meant absolutely nothing to anybody until puccia advanced about ten feet through it so now we get endless veiled vatBlack person threads shitting up the board with it.
Oh Goodie.
Where did all those shitskins cheering for Russia come from?
Unknown but aperantly there might be another barracks strike near bakhmut from ukies but all I found is some telegram sources and those are as reliable as a twig holding a packed table
>Only footage of this so-called offensive is 50 Russians walking across an open field under fire after all THREE of their vehicles are destroyed
Some offensive, huh?
it's offensive to call it offensive
It's not offensive at all, dead russians are pleasing to God
When they actually take something Russian Z media is flooded with their soldiers posing in various buildings. Where are they? All I saw was one Z company being btfo.
This increasingly looks like an actual feint, except the target is their own media.
>some putinist prostitute gets lightly injured because of random artillery strike
NOOOO MY QUEEN, ITS NOT FUNNY YOU SUBHUMAN HOHOLS
>Ukrainian civilians get hit by terror strikes yet again
XAXAXAXAXAX DIE HOHOLS, MMMMM ROAST PIGGIES*~~))
meds
Guys, i have a question. In the first months of the war i used to see some videos from a russian website/source, something like 'Rusnav' or something.
That's not a question, ESL.
I hope Russian morons actually launch offensive in Zapo. This is going to end to them as well as offensive against Mykolaiv from Blohodatne by Veh Deh Veh in August. Russian logistics there is shit compared to Donbass. This is probably second worst place for them to attack after the North.
How bad are Russian forces and logistics in that spot, lol?
Another cope map?
these military activities? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23f-WKF-qYg
>Rybar
The offensive is going great, huh?
Why does Ukraine hate journalists so much?
Putting them on Myrotvorets for reporting the truth, and now celebrating when they get wounded?
Genuinely subhuman behaviour.
Very true I now support russia.
The better question is - when ukranians didn't act like subhumans?
Dead russian b***hes gives me such a boner bros
Post-war, we will see the rise of the Ukrainian'ed Fetish. Russian women impregnated.
Russian women are fricking disgusting though.
dilate
They really are. There's just something both physically and mentally disgusting and abhorrent about them. I'll take Western women over Russian b***hes any day of the week.
That's what 2-D porn is for.
Ah yes, the look of someone who wants my babies for the purpose of prostituting them.
Bad taste.
Even an average Russkie bawd is better than 95% of American women.
They actually get shamed by their families if they get fat or ugly.
>They actually get shamed by their families if they get fat or ugly.
Yea, they get shamed for that because it's harder for their families to prostitute them.
Which is why Russian women are suited for broodmare roles for Ukraine.
Russia is doomed to collapse anyway.
i am sick to fricking death of internet vatniks
The vatniks are much less annoying than the NAFO Reddit nonguns war experts.
Russia shills can be easily ignored unless you’re a moron. New/k/ Reddit teenagers have made this war their entire identity shit up everything and overwhelm any interesting content that gets posted.
nice try
>The vatniks are much less annoying than the NAFO Reddit nonguns war experts.
bait
I used to like /k/, and they’ve made it fricking insufferable. I’m not “mindbroken”, I’m annoyed by literal children and dribbling morons.
Post a single good meme or funny joke from these little tumors, and I will reassess. But that is like asking an anteater to build you a minivan.
we can see your filenames mate
I know you don’t leave your gooncave, but some of us do leave the house, and I can’t imagine anything sadder than getting a laptop out in public to argue on PrepHole
Man, NAFO really mindbroke you vatniggs big time.
Russians continue to advance, today they drove the ukros from the settlement of kamenskoye, ukros have withdrawal to the heighs between kamensky and stepnogorsk to build a new defense, that's it bros, hopefully we get to zaporozhye soon.
Z
Are the offensives in the room with us right now?
Aftermath