>You're sheltering pistol braces are you not?

>You're sheltering pistol braces are you not? You're sheltering them beneath your floorboards aren't you?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pistol braces have always been cringes and now they are mega cringe. lmao at anyone who decides their life is worth less than a piece of plastic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ableism
      >in current year
      No. YOURE cringe, shitlord.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ableism
        what the fuck does this word even mean? go outside, get a hobby.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its using libshit language agaisnt them. How about you grow up and learn how the world works.
          Also, supressors protect animal hearing as well as human so anti supressor is ableist AND animal abuse. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >supressors
            I think you're lost, this thread is about pistol braces.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just braces? Not any weapon realated item kept rrom us by garden gnome laws? This smells like divide and conquer bullshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I no longer think you are lost, I just think you're retarded now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eat shit kid

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe more my ~~*~~*~~*man*~~*~~*~~)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn you fucking destroyed him

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >JOO JOO JOO

                You know leaving your room on occasion is better for your health.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, people don't understand that this already runs afoul of the ADA and will likely get struck down in a lawsuit. Although I wouldn't put it past them to say "oh we'll just issue exemption licenses to people with disabilities, they just have to wait 6+ months for them :DDDDDDDD"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It already says that if you have a legit disability the ban doesn’t apply to you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How do they enforce that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, people don't understand that this already runs afoul of the ADA and will likely get struck down in a lawsuit. Although I wouldn't put it past them to say "oh we'll just issue exemption licenses to people with disabilities, they just have to wait 6+ months for them :DDDDDDDD"

                no it doesn't.

                see: page 91, "FACTORING CRITERIA FOR
                FIREARMS WITH
                ATTACHED “STABILIZING
                BRACES”

                it effectively states that any rifled weapon with a barrel shorter than 16" with a surface attached to the rear of the weapon (not critical to operation of the gun) which is capable of being shouldered is an SBR.
                the exact definitions of how much surface area, what defines "able to be shouldered", and other caveats like having a weight similar to other rifles, and having a LOP similar to other rifles, and having a scope with eye relief "requiring the weapon to be shouldered", and the marketing of the weapon either from the manufacturer or by anyone else, and how anyone demonstrates the use of the weapon.

                those factors are involved in whether or not the weapon is an SBR, and evidently is entirely up to the discretion of the ATF to determine to what extent each one matters.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. I was looking at this part of the document, but looking at it again it just seems like a contradiction

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe you shouldn't have abused them as a loophole then 🙂

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >abuse them as a loophole
              But then I would I attach it to my non disabled arm?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Neat. TIL

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$30 brace
      >$200 off my tax stamp
      Who's the retard now?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who tf is dumb enough to pay 200 for that stamp?? The stock i threw on my pistol was free BUT if I had to buy it it would have been like $30 max. I have an 8.5in SBR and it was essentially free to do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guns have always been cringes and now they are mega cringe. lmao at anyone who decides their life is worth less than a bunch of metal parts.
      Shouldn't you be dying for Nancy Pelosi's new money laundering whore, Slava Kyiv, you plebbit tourist?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vatmorons are hiding in gun threads now because they can’t avoid getting felted in the habbening threads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone's life is. 🙂

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao at the federal agent deciding their life is worth less than someone's piece of plastic

        you wont do shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Juust keep pushing m'kay? 🙂

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          King George must've thought so as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao at the federal agent deciding their life is worth less than someone's piece of plastic

  4. 2 weeks ago
    /news/=/plebbit/

    You motherfucker. I laughed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You motherfucker. I laughed.
      +1 upvote OMG!!!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's just a tripfag trying to insert his gay worthless ass into every thread, no matter what. just filter him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered.
      Bye bye

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, just unregistered sbrs, move along.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they pushed it back a month wtf is going on I've been off for 2 weeks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And the time is now, they tossed the point system all braces are stocks

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This isn't even going to reach enforcement

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will be enforced by every range fudd across america who will call the feds if they see a single pistol brace on their sacred range

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You've had a nice long run, Hickok. Alas, your now in the hands of the ATF. My hands to be exact. And they've been waiting along time, to touch you.
    >Tell me Hickok, if I were sitting where you're sitting, would you show me mercy?
    >Nope.
    >So you're Hickok the 45...
    >So you're Pistol Brace Hunter...
    >I'm ATF Special Agent Hans Landa, detective. A damn good detective. Finding illegally modified firearms is my specialty, so naturally I worked for the Feds finding illegally modified firearms and yes, some of them were pistol braces, BUT Pistol Brace Hunter?! It's just a name that stuck.
    >Well you do have to admit, it is catchy.
    > Do you control the nicknames, your enemies bestow on you? Hickok the 45 and Gun Jesus?
    >What do you mean Gun Jesus?
    >The FBI's nickname for you.
    >The FBI's nickname for me is Gun Jesus?
    >And as if to make my point, I'm a little surprised how godless you were in real life. I mean, you're an agnostic fellow. But not fedora tipper-tier, as your reputation would suggest.
    >Where's my men? Where's Remington Arms?
    >Well, let's just say she got what she deserved, and when you purchase companies like Remington Arms, you get what you pay for.
    >Now as far as your Pisanos, Sgt. Flandre and Pvt. Mugi...
    >How do you know our names?
    >Hickok, if you don't think I wouldn't interrogate every single one of your PrepHole-marked survivors... We simply aren't operating on the level of mutual respect I assumed.
    >No, I guess not.
    >Now, back to the whereabouts of your two PrepHoleomando saboteurs. At this moment, both Flandre, and Mugi, should be sitting in the very seats we left them in. Seats, 0023 and 0024, if my memory serves. Explosives, still around there ankle, still ready to explode. And your mission, some would call a terrorist plot, as of this moment, is still a go.
    >That's a pretty exciting story. What's next, Putin on ice?

    Continue?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, please.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just put a tennis ball on your buffertube to 'protect it'. it aint that hard.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone becomes a felon overnight if they don't report their items to daddy government
    What happened to no ex post facto laws?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happened to shall not be infringed?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you aren't punished for what you did before, but you are punished if you keep doing it now, and in the future.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get specifically told by authority that item is ok to own
        >own it for years with no issue
        >suddenly authority says item is bad now and you're a badguy if you continue to own it
        Seems logical to me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe they'll stop of their own volition eventually

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know shit about firearms; Why is a pistol brace such a big deal?
    In a county where people can buy fully automatic combat rifles, what matter if a pistol has a brace or a stock or whatever? Is this some tax or legal definition thing? I just don't get what it's all about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some people have convinced themselves that they need a really short AR. I don't really get it either. You get these types in all hobbies, ones who are more obsessed about what they can do rather than what they should do, and it consumes them to the point where they turn their entire hobby into a series of "what-if" scenarios.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Obsessed with what they can do instead of what they should do

        It's the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs you fucking gay. The entire point of this new rule is to see if people comply, which they should not.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I know shit about firearms; Why is a pistol brace such a big deal?
      Its a big deal now because back in 2012 the ATF said yea these are fine and today in 2022 if you even have one with a weapon you can attach it to that constitutes constructive possession and worth a felony, 10 years in jail, etc.
      So the congressional research committee acknowledges that there are like 7 million of these things in circulation and at the same time the ATF has said that they wouldn't invest any significant amount of time or effort into collecting them or processing SBR applications or anything about enforcing the law.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tldr its more of the fact that the government said it was ok and suddenly its not ok making millions of people felons.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But why would the ATF even care about braces in the first place? Surely the gun mechanism itself is more important? Like, does the ATF regulate what color you paint the gun as well?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're trying to apply a more logical approach to this issue than they want.
          The ATF cared because of various political meddling over the years.
          The ATF doesn't care about the gun mechanism in any real capacity. The only thing the ATF really cares about is enforcing what is effectively a very draconian law in some obtuse way. This is regardless of any context, intent, or ideas before that.
          The ATF and the government as a whole is known for reneging on so many tings but this is arguably the worst because its the most black and white example of them going back on previous statements.
          At one time they said it was absolutely OK to have and use these things regardless of how you used them
          And all of a sudden, granted after years of hints that they were going to do this, they say that they aren't legal at all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How does the ATF get to decide what's legal and what's not. Aren't there laws? Isn't this legislatures' job? Or is this something they have pawned off to institutions?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This was pawned off onto them.
              Congress doesn't want to touch gun law directly. Its politically fraught and does few people any favors in terms of staying bland enough to stay in power.
              So instead the ATF was given next to free rein to dictate much of American gun law. They can't simply ban certain firearms or attachments, but they can recategorize them to require registration and then claiming ownership is criminal without it. As well as set up unclear and vague guidelines for this.

              >Given the widespread of the use of those braces, this is certainly illegal
              Ftfy

              True, wasn't there recently a USSC case about this?
              That banning 'high capacity' mags was not legal because they were common place.
              Seems similar, however it depends on whether a 'ban' is interpreted as different to a 'recategorization'.
              Braces aren't 'banned' technically. Just most guns with them are now categorized as being NFA non-compliant.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They dug themselves in a hole by saying ar15s under 16 inches are classified as "pistols" without a stock which is also fucking retarded. All my normie no gunz friends just scratch their heads when they learn this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So basically, shitlibs want to ban every gun that isn't a bolt action hunting rifle or full sized pump action shot gun. To put it another way, they want to ban any sort of self-loading fire arm. They obviously can't do this for a multitude of reasons, which is why they come up with retarded bans like this.

          It's like how in public schools they can't segregate schools to keep the morons out so they put them in special education classes to remove them from the general education pool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US Gun Law requires you to get a forum to register your rifle and pay a tax to own a rifle with a barrel that is under 16".
      However, it does not have such rules about owning pistols that have barrels under 16".
      Now, AR-15 and other semi-automatic weapons without stocks have long been categorized as pistols. So you could own a stockless AR15 with a barrel below 16" without registration or a tax.

      Pistol braces were developed as a means initially of allowing people with disabilities to one-handedly shoot rifles by bracing it against their arm.
      Putting one on your gun still let it be categorized as a pistol.
      People started buying these pistol braces that were ultimately 'good enough' as stock replacements and fitting them onto pistol configured intermediate rifles as a means of getting below that limit. As having a short carbine is useful for home defense, for example.

      The ATF for some time allowed that to stand. Almost a decade.
      But now has decided to start cracking down on the practice heavily.
      Given the widespread of the use of those braces, this is certainly problematic for a lot of people on both sides.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Given the widespread of the use of those braces, this is certainly illegal
        Ftfy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not about the pistol brace. it's about a regulatory body saying "it's fine. this is fine, you can make and sell these and shoulder them and it's fine" for 10 years. and now, after (by their estimates) 3-7 million are in circulation, they say "actually no, all of those are short barreled rifles, and you can either send in your fingerprints and register the gun, or you can destroy it, or you can become a felon. you have two months to comply."

      note: "register" means that you can no longer freely sell the weapon to anyone, it has to be "transferred" which costs 200$ every time it is sold to anyone. no one is allowed to use it without you being physically present. you have to obtain permission from the ATF by submitting a request if you ever want to bring the firearm over state lines, for any reason.

      congress declared that rifles shorter than 16" are dangerous and unusual, and in order to own one you must register it and pay a 200$ tax, or you face a 10,000$ fine and 10 years in prison.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never liked my pistol brace in the first place, shit was annoying and uncomfortable to shoulder. I just took the extra stock laying around in my closet and threw it on my "8.5in pistol". Don't care about the atf, or the tax stamps. It's all fake and gay.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Always seemed like a range gimmick, can’t imagine a real life scenario where having one realistically helps unless you’re tryina LARP as robocop.

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