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>You need 6 guns
Was he right?
Didn’t read. Use what you have on hand. Ideally, a shotgun, a pistol, and a rifle would cover your bases quite nicely. Any one of those is sufficient by itself for home defense. I am a fan of shotguns. You will want more, but don’t go following some shitty shopping list. Do your own research. Buy whatever gun fits you, your budget, and allows you to shoot well.
ahead of you boss.
Looks like you did read
Not really. You should start out with something that has cheap and easy to find ammo. Depending on the year that's impossible. That all started with 22lr being hoarded by gays, once in a while you'll see them post pallet loads of it on reddit sitting in their basement, they wanted to resell it and garden gnome everyone else. Cheap milsurp is all drying up too. If you have no guns 1 gun is probably better than zero.
>no toilet/shower gun
Also you need 2 concealed carry pistols or more because in case you actually use it'll be confiscated by the pigs and then you're left without a pistol until you buy a new one. Just have at least one spare.
Can we substitute with a Kitchen Gun and a Toilet Grenade?
Yes you do need 6 revolvers
>bedroom shotgun: taurus judge
>cc: model 10
>car gun: fullsize 357 or 44
>chimpout gun: BFR
>plinking: rough rider
>wife gun: another model 10
Ruger lcr for all of them. People were using single action armies to hunt deer during the great depression and had success doing so.
This is all you need
During the 2020 chimpout, me, my mom, and my dad all decided to buy guns. My mom knows this boomer on Facebook that laughed at the suggestion of getting an AR, and recommended the circuit judge. I just lold and thought of the fudd meme. She ended up getting a Glock 19. (Unrelated. Dad bought 6 guns and a Dillon progressive press)
Haha, what a story Mark
How is your sex life?
based il dulce
Pretty sure those were 6 1911s
He had a hodgepodge of shit, 2 revolvers 1 1911 Taurus 92, Smith auto.
No one even needs one revolver.
>no shower gun
>no hot weather handgun
>no cold weather handgun
>no revolver so you can larp as a cowboy
>no "I bought this because it's funny" gun like a hipoint or a taurus
>no deer rifle
>no designated family heirloom gun
Shit list, he's gonna be the first to die when shtf
Arisaka with bayonet
>Hot weather handgun
>Cold weather handgun
>Revolver so you can larp as a cowboy
357 colt trooper; modern enough but still quaint
> "I bought this because it's funny" gun like a hipoint or a taurus
Kel Tec p50
>Designated family heirloom gun
There; I saved your money and your life
I agree with it all except the list of guns
1. Compact Handgun for CC
2. Full Size Handgun
3. Versatile shotgun, capable of being used for hunting but can be "tactical" too
4. Intermediate Range AR15
5. Rifle for longer range (maybe a 308)
6. Handgun for wifey
Thats literally all you need
I live in FL and concealed carry a full size USP with no issue. you don't need a compact gun to effectively conceal. literally don't be fat and you can have a full size duty gun on you at all times
About the same. I'm in a city, have a 9mm pcc instead of 308.
>"if you dont have a job, get one making $100k"
LMFAO, i cant even
nu PrepHole is hilarious and I dont want the old one back.
$100k today isn't really shooting for the stars, that's like making $57k in 1999. Not achievable if you're digging ditches, but for an office job or trade it is. You can be making good money in 5-10 years if you play it smart or just get the right degree or qualifications.
Pic related is comparing real life to zoomer expectations of mid career salaries. $100k is not that much, especially depending on where you live.
>You need 6 guns
Was he right?
6 guns is a bit much. Never understood the car gun thing if you have a CC already. CC is also good for bedroom defense. I have a 8 guns but only 3 are essential. CC, AR for riots, and a deer rifle. My girl refuses to carry.
I own 40 guns and 39 are essential (the Wesco is for lulz)
>Never understood the car gun thing if you have a CC already
CC has to be smaller, and thus compromise on things like barrel length and capacity
Car gun can be a full size handgun with whatever accessories you might want to add to it, and you won’t have to worry about it not being comfortable to carry
>you NEED a shotgun
They're irreplaceable for very specific things the average person will never do. Don't need one.
>you NEED a concealed carry pistol
>you NEED a car gun
Pick something that isn't a .380 for your carry gun and suddenly there's no justification for a car gun.
>you NEED an AR-15 and a plinker
>you NEED a gun for the missus
You need to get the missus into gun ownership, this is a her problem.
>engineers and comp sci win yet again
Incredibly humble AND successful? It doesn't get any better.
Dude if you are willing to do hard labor and pass the tests employers give out you'll easily make that and more.
>100k jobs are just lying around
Where do you delusional fucks come from?
Major cities like LA/SF will have a decent amount of jobs paying sux figures if youre a collefe grad but 100k gets you a shoebox unless you're willing to commute three hours to work both ways
This is "mid-career" though, not something you just start at
Love to see how they are defining midcareer. I work with tons of payroll data and these are laughable medians. Most people in finance are spreadsheet analysts/clerks in non-finance focused companies or government and they make nowhere near $92,000 even if you just look at middle age workers. Maybe $72,000.
Most political science majors don't work in anything related to their major so I don't know how they determine that.
Computer science also seems ludicrous, there are a ton of lower paid IT bitch jobs filled by college grads.
A cs degree with 10 years experience is 100k easy
Outside engineering, you might be looking at 20 years experience for a degree in a technical or business field
Feminist studies and literature can go suck a dick
the only nu PrepHole here is you. It's obvious because only literal newgays trying way too hard to fit in use that word.
>t. 2007 oldfag
>the only nu PrepHole here is you. It's obvious because only literal newgays trying way too hard to fit in use that word.
>>t. 2007 oldfag
lmfao, imagine giving a single fuck about the "culture" of an anonymous qatari-trap-shooting-board?
2007, 2016, 2023, what do you give a fuck?
its an 'expiring', anonymous, ID-less, flagless board, why do you observe any 'qualities' of the venue itself?
go ahead, Im from Indiana, tell me why you care what some gay fag thread#608640045 cares?
>just ignore the declining quality anon, who cares it's just a bunch of buzzwords!
PrepHole was always shit, you're just an old man now
>says the guy absolutely seething while trying to pretend he's anything other than the newest of newmorons.
pro-tip: you're the gay making this place worse, and if you can't recognize that then you should quite literally have a nice day.
It's really not that hard. Any retard that's not a druggie can be a deconner.
34k average is a long ways from 100k
>dude just get a six figure job and buy land
>grow a beard like a gay
>you only need six guns
>one is a fucking car gun
No, fuck this retard.
No he wasn't. If you are a poor fag, you only need 3 guns.
1) Conceal Carry Handgun (get the biggest gun you can conceal. Depending on how big your local game is get the appropriate caliber. I.E. don't get a 9mm if you live in Alaska, don't get a 50ae Deagle if you live in Los Angeles.)
2) High velocity Semi-Auto rifle (5.56, 5.45, 300blk, 7.62 Nato/Rimmed/x39 etc.)
3) Pump Shotgun
These three guns can cover everything you will ever need. Practice with them learn them, be proficient with them. The shotgun can be loaded with birdshot or slugs for hunting and buckshot for home defense. The high velocity can be used for hunting smaller game (Yote, deer, hogs, etc.) The handgun can be used for EDC or a secondary firearm for hunting/larping. Get a good light and matching OWB and IWB for this gun/light combo.
Congrats, you are now well equipped for any possible scenario. If you want a 4th gun, I would recommend a 22lr. Your choice on Pistol or Rifle. This will be good for small game hunting (Squirrel, Ground Hog) and will allow you to have a cheap ammo fun plinking gun. The other 3 are more important though IMO.
>you only NEED 3 or 4 or 6 guns!
What the fuck is this commie shit, and what the fuck is it doing on my PrepHole?
You know what the word NEED means right? If you can count how many guns you have, you don't have enough.
You're only one person what's the point?
I have 8x that many guns.
everything he said is correct though.
>You need 6 guns
How many gunfights have you gotten into in your life?
I'm not reading this shit retard
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion, gay
seethe and reply again
didn't even read your post but nice numbers
>One dedicated car gun
Even aside from the fact that former car/truck guns are what atleast half of criminals use, I've never understood needing to keep one in your vehicle when you already (hopefully) have your carry pistol on you
>One for your missus of whatever she wants, probably a small revolver
If she's been tricked into the airweight .38 meme, then actually take her out shooting with one along with a semi-auto subcompact for comparison. They're easy as hell to carry, but they've got a lot of felt recoil and aren't all that accurate if you don't train a considerable amount. I've shot subcompact .40's that shoot smoother than an airweight .38, it's just the trade off for getting something so fuckin light.
Other than that he's got it just about right, although more is always better
what if someone breaks into your car?
>Thinks a shot gun is a good HD weapon
>Thinks you needed a dedicated car gun when you're already CCing
>Thinks a good gun for a girl is a tiny revolver
Ask me how I know he doesn't know shit about guns.
For 150 years, a shotgun was the best home defense weapon. An AR with a shorter barrel btfos it.
This is a blue board, please don't post your penis
Seriously though, if you're using 12 gauge slugs for home defense, you're literally fucking retarded.
How? I dont give a shite about going through walls btw.
Significantly harsher recoil than buckshot, doesn't have the spread that buckshot has, is less accurate than a rifle because your shotgun probably just has a bead sight, shotguns are generally longer than rifles which gimps your maneuverability, and you have the ammo capacity of a shotgun instead of a rifle or even a handgun. Other than a black powder musket, a shotgun loaded with slugs is the absolute worst gun for home defense.
I guess a milsurp bolt action would be worse. Shotgun with slugs is third worst.
Although I don't disagree with you, slugs having less spread than buckshot is pretty negligible as the buckshot pattern will be tight af at home defence distances. On the optics argument, I'd argue a bead sight is better than basic rifle BUIS that you'd get stock on an AR because of faster target acquisition and easier sight picture. If the implication was red dots, you can put a dot in most 'tactical' shotguns.
>slugs having less spread than buckshot is pretty negligible as the buckshot pattern will be tight af at home defence distances
It will be tight, but it will still be wider than a slug.
>bead sight is better than basic rifle BUIS
If you're shooting shot, not if you're shooting a bullet. You need rear sights for accurate shooting. You'll probably hit a man sized target at close range, but why risk it?
Whatever you use, a red dot will make your HD gun a thousand times better.
>be you shooting an AR in your home at a violent intruder
>massively overpenetrates through the intruder into your cardboard-tier walls
>kills your wife
>kills your kid
>kills your dog
>kills the neighbor's dog
There's a reason the shotgun is king, it doesn't expand an encounter into a fight with the entire neighborhood.
was this fucking birdshot?
fucking zoomers don't know about the box o truth
They make HESH rounds for shotguns. Your argument is invalid.
Car gun is just an excuse to buy a bigger and more fun gun than your CCW.
Car gun is an excuse to give your neighborhood heroin addict a free gun
Not if you shoot him with your car gun first.
I mean, he's not really wrong for most parts if you consider that the advice was given to someone poor
>shotgun for home defense
SBR would be better but shotgun is fine, and price difference is huge
>car gun and concealed carry pistol
That would be usefull if you have a huge land of your own or go into the wild with your car a lot, and you consider threats like bears or mountain lions, not only other people. Also
>Expensive cars are about impressing men, not women
The only thing he got 100% wrong is not the guns part. If i buy myself a car then it's a car for me, not other men or women. If I feel better cruising in the summer, blasting "Sweet dreams" with my miata rather than some accord, then i'm going to buy one. If you feel the need to buy anything to impress somebody, you either have some shitty social circle that you would be better off without, or you try too hard to gain approval from strangers
>small pistol for summer CC
>full size for winter/vehicle
>backup pistol for when daily carry pistol is in an evidence locker
>practical 1-200yd fighting rifle
>practical/precision 2-800yd fighting rifle
>practical hunting gun(s) of your choosing
>historically significant guns
And that's really about it. Unless they're well-versed in shotgun loads, they're not more useful tools for your average shooter than a rifle or pistol is.
No because if you start thinking about guns in terms of strictly what you "need," then the inevitable conclusion is that the most basic bitch 9mm block is good enough for just about everything. People who buy guns strictly because they feel like they need them don't actually like guns. You should buy guns because you want to buy guns.
You only need two guns to do everything that needs to be done
>not an iver johnson
>one to kill Evangelicals
>one to kill Catholics
imagining the physiognomy
>find a wife you trust
>implying you can trust anyone
No. That poster is a tween that thinks he knows everything.
Anyone who tells me what guns I “need” is as unqualified as the gays who tell me I don’t need [insert scary gun].
If you want to be a sperg and cover all your bases, it goes as follows:
>.22 LR for varmints and plinking.
>12 ga for anything.
>5.56 or 7.62x39 “fighting carbine” for hogs and SHTF/boog LARPing.
>full size rifle for big game and precision shooting (.308 for easy access of ammo.)
>handgun for all practical defensive encounters (9mm for easy access of ammo and gun variety)
If you don’t min-max your hobby, and just think guns are cool, buy whatever you enjoy and can shoot well.
The average American won't even need a gun at all, and if they do, a doublestack 9mm handgun of any kind will be more than enough. I own way more than 6 guns myself but most people in the states aren't immediately at risk of being in a warzone and if they are they should be focused more on getting out of the warzone instead of getting guns.
>but most people in the states aren't immediately at risk of being in a warzone
you should watch some world star
I'm not mentally ill and obsessed with morons like you
>Simply make 100k/yr
>And don't settle for less
Lol, can't wait to see all the neurosurgeons dog pile on this
>Nuh uh bro, I make 100k/yr doing HVAC
>train with it regularly
>start with the shotgun (easy)
This entire time I have been avoiding shotguns because I have nowhere to shoot them.
>You need 6 guns
>Was he right?
>128mm anti-tank gun
>21cm Mörser 18
I guess he was right
“Need” as in on the 1 in a trillion chance that in one lifetime you find yourself in all of these exceedingly unlikely scenarios, AND they are the extreme outlier exceptions to said scenarios where having a specific type of gun is appreciably better than having just any gun. It’s never gonna happen. If we are talking about need, the average person will be well-served with ONE firearm, of any kind. Having a gun is infinitely better than having no gun, and the difference between guns for X scenario is trivial compared to the difference between no gun and one gun.
Guns are fun, they are cool and interesting, and the autism over specs (I’m a spec sheet whore too) is nothing more than building a physical manifestation of a thought experiment.
In OPs pic, is there any reason your CC can’t also serve as the gun in your car? Does a home intruder give a shit that he’s being shot from a 9mm from a p365 or a 12 gauge from a shotgun? This makes literally no difference in 99.999999% of scenarios. And for the scenarios in which it does matter, there is extra ammunition in the magazine.
A man who types like you is not worth listening to. Fix yourself.
The fuck? How do I type?
Either a self-indulgent narcissistic windbag, or an unmedicated schizophrenic.
You typed out three paragraphs and said basically nothing. Also, fag spacing.
Reading comprehension, you retarded moron.
I don't need some other man telling me how to be one.
>No designated hot air balloon gun
You plebs will never make it
>he doesn't have a Type 99 loaded with tracers in case of biplanes
Why even bother
I have one of these and part of me wants to use the aircraft sights whenever some dumbass boomer flies his cessna too low over my house
Do it. You're not gonna hit shit anyway since you're meant to shoot at planes in volleys.
I mean some of these retards fly 50 feet over my house. I could hit them.
Is there any recorded instance of Arisakas actually shooting down a plane?
the Nipponese burned records and they don't snitch on themselves
I guess you set.
The only universal guns everybody "needs" are a concealable handgun and a centerfire intermediate carbine. Beyond that everybody's requirements are different and trying to come up with a definitive list is stupid.
Shotguns are terrible for building clearing, long guns in general are. I'd take my handgun even over my SBR for home defense. I'd argue you really only need 2 guns since we have 1.5 stack handguns now. Just a handgun and a rifle, and it really doesn't matter what you get. When you become more of an enthusiast you can expand to more specific role guns, but understand they're just toys you're never going to use for your LARP fantasies.
guaranteed whoever posted that is /noguns/ and lives with their parents
No, this type of “you need such and such guns” posting does nothing but mislead people who are new to guns into running out and spending all their money on crap rather than buying one or two nice guns they actually want and practicing with them. What I suggest to newfags is to limit yourself to buying two guns per year: One for your birthday and one for Christmas. That was you have enough time to save up money and do thorough research so you can make informed purchases and determine what you actually need for your own situation rather than listening to frogposters on a Chinese cartoon forum. After doing that for a few years, you will have a nice little collection built up without feeling burnt out or like you neglected a gun because you never shot it enough before buying another one.
Are you that fag from /hgg/ who works ten hours a week as a towel monkey amd exclusively reads 40K books and spams "post physique" whenever someone calls you out for being a loser?
>he thinks only one fag from the Beretta general owns an LTT
I think that's pretty bad advice right now. If you want something and wait six months it might be off the table forever in the current climate.
Well sure but most people are just starting out don’t have a ton of money to buy all the guns they want. I’m talking about how it’s a bad idea to rush out and buy shit like a cheap 22 or pump shotgun just because some anon said you “need” to have them. Ten years later you’ll wonder why you bought so much poverty-tier turkshit instead of one or two good guns. It’s why Glocks are the number one gun sold back to gun stores. People read online that the Glock 19 is THE obligatory CCW gun, so they rush out and buy them, but then realize that they hate them or didn’t actually need them as much as they thought they did. It’s always better to buy the guns you actually want rather than feeling like you should buy a gun out of obligation just to fill a hole in your collection.
>putting a flash light on a pistol
Who even does this, it’s not like you’re going on a camping trip
lowest IQ post in the whole thread.
Why do I have to wait three months before working out?
>dedicated car gun
Wrong and gay. You can fit all your firearms needs in 4 guns with authority and cover the whole spectrum of what you would ever realistically need to use them for in any given situation, whether it be hunting, operational duty, CC or home defense.
>.223 (AR-15 platform or AUG) for GP/SHTF/operating/combat
>9mm (striker-fired polymer frame design) for CC/SD/sidearm
>12ga for HD/breaching/hunting fowl/rabbits
>.300 WM for big game/long range/target shooting/punching through lvl IV plates with tungsten slugs in minecraft/load development (literally the most versatile .30 cal option as you can load anything from (sub) .308 levels of powes to full powered magnum loads)
That would have been way funnier if he used a different tank each time
No, You don't need guns.
You only need trust on your government official.
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