You may not like it but this is the superior catrridge.

It's all you need.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm faping to you in your dreams!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im fapping you in my dreams

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm fuck(in) ya mudda!

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you shoot the head of a 22 the bounces in the bullet in the head mafia uses it

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what if someone is more than 50 yards away

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can consistently ring an A zone silhouette up to 250 yards with my 10/22. You just fucking suck at shooting. If you catch a few rounds of anything you’ll have a hard time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wind hella affects it, doesnt matter how good you are.

        22 sucks, it's only cool full auto suppressed subsonic filling someones lungs with it at 30 yards.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you live in a wind tunnel?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >do you live in the midwest
            yes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So? Git good. I shoot springer air guns past 100y. You have to shoot high and into the wind. You get to practice long range shots at a shorter range and lower price. Why are you not doing it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because it's hot garbage and id rather dedicate my time and energy to something that can actually kill man sized creatures instead of just wound them

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kills more people every year in the us than every other caliber put together

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? I have a hard time believing this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's just more .22LR guns in circulation than other calibers. Even people who aren't gun people often end up with .22 rifles.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You really think there are significantly more .22's made and in people's homes than something like 9mm, 45, and 12ga or deer rifle calibers? According to that incapacitation chart, sure looks like .22 incaps as many people as any other caliber with only minor variations less than 10% per caliber.

                https://i.imgur.com/pdIpgxA.jpg

                Yea it’s .22 shit is dirt cheap. Poke 90 tiny holes in the guy

                What you're trying to debate is "stopping power" versus high volume of .22 in use which isn't how percentages work.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No actually my statement and picture were completely unrelated to eachother

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But not as much as cigarettes. Don’t be a smoker.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's just more .22LR guns in circulation than other calibers. Even people who aren't gun people often end up with .22 rifles.

                ive alwaus heard this but never heard a single source. I'm a diehard 22 fanboy but this is bullshit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I tried looking for a source, the first thing I found was this. Doesn't answer the question, but it's interesting reading nonetheless.

                https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I tried looking for a source, the first thing I found was this. Doesn't answer the question, but it's interesting reading nonetheless.

                https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

                Here's the real answer. Just found it.
                https://gunstuff-jd.blogspot.com/2013/03/but-22-has-killed.html

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kinda wild how much that changed in 5 years

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >22 sucks
          Ok.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        x treme cope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not being able to compensate for wind
          Get a load of this guy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What do you plan to do with 22 LR against someone standing 250 yrds away? Break their knee bones like the Israelis do?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          aim for the eye socket like when legolas killed the minotaur

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At 250 how much engery does 22lr carry? Is it enough to punch through a hoodie?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I can consistently ring an A zone silhouette up to 250 yards with my 10/22
        I doubt this. But if you do, it's from a fixed firing location off a bench with a known distance. It's not in the field. You have around 76" of drop at 250 yards. If you are off by only 25 yards in your range estimate and it's 225 that's 57" of drop, or if it's 275 it's 97" of drop. A small difference in your range estimate and you are 20" over or under. No, you aren't that good at estimating ranges.

        Post your 10/22.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a CZ scout, sights are accurate up to 500 yards with the built in ramp. Standard velocity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unless you're 22Plinkster, you're not shooting .22lr at 500 yards.
        Even with wind of only 1mph you're looking at 10 inches of drift. Ignoring that, you're looking at a drop of over 500 inches in elevation (almost 100 MOA). 1.9 seconds to target. a little more than 600 fps of velocity left. 33 ft/lbs of force.
        Assuming a 40 grain projectile at 1130fps and a gun zero'd for 100 yards.
        I'm not going to say _nobody_ shoots 22 at 500 yards, but 22 Plinkster is the only one I've seen do it, and well, he's 22Plinkster. I seriously seriously doubt you're shooting 22lr at 500 yards Anon. Srsly. Doubt.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. You have 20ft of drop at that point. Even the most mild of wind pushes you completely off target.

        Dedicated .22 rigs with scopes don't consistently hit at 500 yards. At least make your lies believable.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He never said what size target, lol. It could be true if he's shooting at a barn, or he's talking about taking tons of shots with a spotter to eventually walk him onto the target. That's almost 50 feet of drop vs a 50 yard zero, and adjusting your sights for 475 yards will put you about 4 feet low at 500 yards. MOA/mil adjustment at that range with .22lr would be comparable to shooting .308 at 1800 yards. 20 feet of drop vs a 50 yard zero would be at the much more reasonable 350 yards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My box of 22LR has "Dangerous to 1 1/2 miles" written on the flap. (you) must be using that Mexican stuff? Also, as other anon's have pointed out, the bullet bounces around inside the skull scrambling the brains.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was the favorite cartridge of an American serial killer hooker. Used a pistol too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >.22lr
    >he needs more than this
    Can’t even shoot 22lr in the city cause it’s too much, but with shorts you can hunt homeless all night and not spook the locals, while still being mighty powerful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The hell kind of magnum round is that? The recoil must be tremendous

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need any more than 6mm Flobert you freaking gun nuts

      With .22 short you can't even hunt, you'd make the deer's head explode.
      Stop compensating for your tiny dicks

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For what? Committing suicide? I have absurdly thick skull bones, I wouldn't even trust 22LR to off myself with.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if the home invader is larger than a squirrel?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shoot him in the head

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or alternatively, shoot him a bunch

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea it’s .22 shit is dirt cheap. Poke 90 tiny holes in the guy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >9mm has less than 50% incapacitation rate for a headshot
            sure

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It says torso/head buddy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >headshots kill instantly like in muh videogames!

              You need to go back

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >kill is the same thing as "incapacitate"
                You can stop trying to fit in so hard anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what video game is liveleak running on? because I'm pretty sure you're just a dipshit contrarian

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine getting mag dumped with a 25 round thing of minimags. Not a fun time.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a challenger appears

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >exposed lead
    enjoy your lead poisoning.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do love 22, and I will violently defend muh plinker

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How much better is .22 wmr?
    I know rounds are 5-10x the price of LR

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know i'm allowed to shoot bigger birds with it, but what about accuracy, range, etc

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    22lr is a lot of fun to shoot. I do like bigger rounds, but honestly I shoot about 400-500 rounds of 22 a week. Couldn’t afford to do that in a bigger caliber that regularly unfortunately. Been working on accuracy, I’ve been trying to get the basics down and I feel like I’ve had good results, the main way I’m gonna get more consistent is to keep shooting frequently till the muscle memory gets well entrenched…

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I might've just gotten a bad box, but I had one box of that automatic give me 3 different squibs in 2 different heritage 22s. the other 3 boxes I bought of it were all fine, if inconsistent velocity. picrel was the least worst squib in a 3", the other 2 were about halfway down a 6" barrel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That Fed Automatch has brittle primers. If you can find the little 50ct boxes, it's fine stuff, just cheap standard velocity 22. In the bulk boxes and buckets though, it never fails to fail. Box will prove less reliable with every range trip if you don't finish it off on the first one. I think the primers fall apart, which is often the reason cited for bulk-pack 22 being shitty. I have better luck with Thunderbolts and Golden Bullets than with bulk pack Champion/Automatch.

        >Successfully shot 40 out of 50 rounds of Federal Champion Automatch just a few hours ago.
        >Half of the successful shots took 2 or 3 strikes to fire.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That Fed Automatch has brittle primers. If you can find the little 50ct boxes, it's fine stuff, just cheap standard velocity 22. In the bulk boxes and buckets though, it never fails to fail. Box will prove less reliable with every range trip if you don't finish it off on the first one. I think the primers fall apart, which is often the reason cited for bulk-pack 22 being shitty. I have better luck with Thunderbolts and Golden Bullets than with bulk pack Champion/Automatch.

        >Successfully shot 40 out of 50 rounds of Federal Champion Automatch just a few hours ago.
        >Half of the successful shots took 2 or 3 strikes to fire.

        I left out the part where I've still only ever had it squib once in a 20" barrel, your case is pretty exceptional and a little scary.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which 22 ammo should I buy a case of?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever’s cheapest unless your buying it for some super specific purpose..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      been liking CCI standards if you're ok with getting your hands dirty
      cycle well in my 10/22 and got 1500 for 10cpr about

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. >rimfire
    Sorry OP but rimfire is simply inherently not as reliable. Even if you get really nice quality ammo, if you shoot 1000 rounds you'll have more misfires. Usually resolved by simply shooting the same thing again because it's just a void in one part of the rim, fine for vermin/plinking/range, but not ok for pdw or certain hunting. It's not the power or size but rim fire isn't dependable enough there.

    2. >law
    A lot of states have a minimum legal caliber for hunting medium or larger game and 22 doesn't meet the bar. Enforcement of course varies but it's harder thing to dodge then other hunting restrictions. Like if a state has legal suppressors but doesn't allow hunting with them, it's impossible if you took it off after for a warden or whomever to show you shot that deer with the can on. Whereas it's damning if you're only carrying a 22 and the examine the wound.

    22lr does get unfairly shat on by certain classes of zoomer but no it's not all you need.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ngl ive not had any duds with nicer cci high velocity 22lr and 0 duds with any of the 22wmr ive used

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't had DUDS but I have had FTFs even with quality CCI. I don't blame 'em for it at all, and like I said they fire fine if you just reload and try again since it'll end up at a different angle. And admittedly we're talking small odds. Even if the failure rate was like a few percent, and it's more like fractions of a percent, how likely is that to be what does you in? This is all low prob stuff. So if you're comfortable depend on 22lr not going to call you dumb, but rim fire isn't what I want myself at any caliber personally I guess.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In my experience damn near nothing running 22lr in a semi auto platform short of an older Ruger Mark IVs is going to be even 90% reliable with any ammo. Guns that Ive found to be picky about ammo almost always run flawless with CCI Stinger but at that point youre no longer enjoying all the cheapness of 22lr.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but at that point youre no longer enjoying all the cheapness of 22lr.
            Considering those anons are talking about self defense use, why does this matter?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm

              I haven't had DUDS but I have had FTFs even with quality CCI. I don't blame 'em for it at all, and like I said they fire fine if you just reload and try again since it'll end up at a different angle. And admittedly we're talking small odds. Even if the failure rate was like a few percent, and it's more like fractions of a percent, how likely is that to be what does you in? This is all low prob stuff. So if you're comfortable depend on 22lr not going to call you dumb, but rim fire isn't what I want myself at any caliber personally I guess.

              and agree, even with 9mm or 308 or whatever I'm using different ammo for hunting and EDC vs what I train with (though of course I try to make sure they feel similar and mix in a few mags of the EDC ammo from time to time). Cost doesn't really matter in those scenarios because you should be using so little. Also, even "nice, fancy" 22lr is still dirt fucking cheap compared to nice fancy anything-else-at-all.

              But still

              In my experience damn near nothing running 22lr in a semi auto platform short of an older Ruger Mark IVs is going to be even 90% reliable with any ammo. Guns that Ive found to be picky about ammo almost always run flawless with CCI Stinger but at that point youre no longer enjoying all the cheapness of 22lr.

              is my experience too although more extreme, I don't have a 10% FTF remotely, but it's not 1/1000 either. And even nice CCI, "almost always" is still not as reliable as I've found good center fire to be. 22lr is still something that should be part of everyone's gun collection though. It's what I learned on as a kid when my father taught me like so many, forgiving, cheap, hell even failures to fire are good lessons as a newguns.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get a tx22

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My TX22 has been that reliable and more. Even shooting it with a suppressor with all the extra crud that ends up in the gun.

              Do you have a tx22? What is happening with its barrel, do they have a threaded version, or an adapter?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i think it comes with an adapter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I do have one. The one I have is threaded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, is it just 1/2x28 threads cut in the same piece of steel as the bore and chamber?

                i think it comes with an adapter

                is confusing me already. I'm looking for a host where I can't accidentally unthread an adapter when removing the suppressor, and ideally where I could disassemble the gun without removing any adapters.
                My only pistol host right now is PPQ 22 with adapter and it has both of those issues, trying to use it with a suppressor sucks wet farts from dead pidgeons.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. It has a little adapter piece you have to use. It is somewhat annoying. I think if I used Teflon tape or a crush washer it might help.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My TX22 has been that reliable and more. Even shooting it with a suppressor with all the extra crud that ends up in the gun.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any problems unique to .22 revolvers? I've been thinking about getting a .22, and revolvers seem tempting.
    I would guess that they take any length of cartridge, they are fun to operate, should be reliable, but I get this nagging feeling that there might be some unkown problem with .22 in a revolver platform.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only problem is the market for cheap shit 22 revolvers, just like the market for cheap shit 22 pocket pistols.

      A Ruger Wrangler is a good inexpensive 22 revolver, nothing bad to say about it. A Heritage Rough Rider is a toy, a fabulous toy, but it doesn't compare in quality.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody says anything bad about the heritage revolvers other than the finish can sometimes flake off. Other than that there aren't quality or reliability issues. Rugers are $50 more and when you're looking at poverty tier weapons, $50 is substantial.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diamondback is 100$ more but the cylinder flips out so you don’t have to eject the casings one at a time… which is probably worth the 100$

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Depends just how much you're into the cowboy roleplay. SAA Colts don't have cylinder flip out. I don't do tactical speed run reloads with mine, but its fun to sit there and pop them out one at a time then load new ones in too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is a double action, too with a magnum cylinder

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair the heritage revolvers can get the magnum cylinder, but yeah the double action is nice.

              Depends just how much you're into the cowboy roleplay. SAA Colts don't have cylinder flip out. I don't do tactical speed run reloads with mine, but its fun to sit there and pop them out one at a time then load new ones in too.

              Was just looking for fun. So not super worried about it being Wild West period appropriate…. Mostly just think popping 9 casings out one at a time like that looks tedious as hell, plus being able to leave the cylinder flipped out when not shooting is kinda nice as a visual safety since there’s a good chance I’ll teach my kids and some family members to shoot with it…

              [...]
              The Diamondback is also made of zinc, so it won't rust if the finish wears off.

              Didn’t know that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diamondback is 100$ more but the cylinder flips out so you don’t have to eject the casings one at a time… which is probably worth the 100$

          The Diamondback is also made of zinc, so it won't rust if the finish wears off.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough gun for a deer, not enough gun for a man either unless you hit the brain basket

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    generic lrn 22lr out of a 4 inch barrel at 15yards will easily punch through 5mm of Aluminium plate.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *for practice
    completed that for you, you can thank me now.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How reliable are guns like the PPK and its clones when chambered in .22lr, or the Beretta Bobcat (I already know Taurus's clone is shit)? I'm kind of interested in a smaller metal frame .22 pistol.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The definitive match seems to be Taurus TX22 vs Ruger Mark IV serie.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anon asks for advice on a small metal frame .22 pistol
        >both suggestions are full size
        >one doesn't even have a metal frame

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    peaking of AMMO
    VISA. et al are making a separate category for guns etc. Easier to keep track of what you buy.
    If use pre paid , how to fill out form that asks NAME ON CARD

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    32 acp is the smallest gun cartridge. Anything less is a toy cartridge.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't .17HMR a better compromise? how much more expensive is it compared to .22LR

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Walk to your playground kiddies:

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  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For civvies? Yep.

    For how little power it has. simple fact is a bullet hole of any size requires medical attention, and since nobody but LARPers wear body armor casually, you just need something to put a hole in someone.

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