>You have been time warped back to the wild west with your guns and some ammo

>You have been time warped back to the wild west with your guns and some ammo
>A sheriff's posse and a gang of outlaws are coming for you for whatever reason

Do you think you can outgun them with your AR15 and Glock?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd outgun them with muh dick.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I own neither of those weapons.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My shitty lvpo snipes them before they can dismount then I walk a county over and introduce better scopes to the world and sit back on my ass while I reap the profits.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most profit you would be reaping would be from selling it to an oddities buyer, otherwise it's fucking useless because the industry and techniques needed to manufacture those scopes simply doesn't exist in that time period.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stfu u fucking nerd

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if.. if i get there and i have no guns
    can i have one of theirs?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >find suitable farmhouse
    >set up sandbags at every window and door
    >put guns and ammo at each door so I dont have to carry anything around
    >give those suckers the Don Alejo treatment and become a local legend
    >disappear back to modern times

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They will just smoke you out unless its a mud brick house

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They kinda have to reach him. A modern Ar with even budget optics vastly outranges basically everything imaginable. Anon can argue people shot .45-70 single shots at a mile or whatever else, that meme shit doesn't mean anything in a gun fight. Being able to drop the bandits at 400m when they can't even see you in the window does actually make a difference.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >do you think you can outgun a gang of people with semi-auto weapons with your modern semi-auto weapons?
          I know that 9mm and 5.56 literally hit harder than older, black powder ammo; and that newer weapons are generally more reliable, have higher capacities, and faster rates of fire; but I don't think I'm magically outshooting multiple armed assailants who all want me dead, unless there's only 2 of them, they've got muzzle loaders, and I am particularly lucky.
          Unless I've got tons of prep time to trench myself into some shit I can rely on to block their shitty black powder balls, I think I'm fucked.

          >implying anyone on PrepHole can consistently hit a moving target at 400m
          Sure, bud, we're all bubba fudd super snipers and competitive marksmen here, not just larpers that rarely get off the 20m pistol line or hunt things that exclusively stand still for us.

          inb4 PROJECTING REEEE!!!!!!!! For every one person on here who shoots regularly, there's 40 noguns.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can your long gun with 3x the effective range that can fire 2x as fast as their guns, and hold 4x the ammunition before reloading outgunned some retards
    Probably, as long as you set up the ambush and not the other way around.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You are heavily outnumbered
      >They actually shoot their guns for a living

      I don't think its as lopsided as you think it is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like I said, as long as you set the ambush it's fine, take them out at range, the shooting will start when they aren't ready and in open ground.
        In close that many would kill you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They likely didn't practice nearly as often as modern hobbyists as marksmanship was famously shit back them. They carried guns for a living but were unlikely to have studied tactics.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They likely didn't practice nearly as often
          Most people just collect accessories and posture with their guns.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keep moving that goalpost bud

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They carried guns for a living but were unlikely to have studied tactics.
          A tiny fraction of posters here have studied tactics, and a virtually zero number of them have ever actually applied what they studied besides tac-walking their own house.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel bad for the cowboy action shooters.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you own NOD's you might have a chance if you evade them until night fall. Otherwise you really have to rely on staying outside of their effective range of blackpowder guns while engaging them at distance with optics and hope for the best.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Only attack at night
      >Kills from unnaturally far away in the middle of the night
      What if they mistake you for a vampire and send church bounty hunters after you?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sheriffs posse
    >gang of outlaws
    I don't need to outgun them. I simply need to make them run into each other and let them kill each other. I suppose I could finish off whoever survives but honestly I think they'll forget about me. After that I'll just head out to California and open a hardware store or something.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sheriffs posse are just outlaws with badges

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        outlaws are criminals with guns. they hate law enforcement. they will fight and I will flee. Easy as pie. I wonder if I could find a master gunsmith that could reverse engineer the guns and sell them with me. We'd be the richest gunslingers in America!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >outlaws are criminals with guns. they hate law enforcement
          and in the time period many were also law enforcement

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on who ambushes who. If they ambush you, you lose. If you ambush them, you win.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >for whatever reason
    I’m a really likable person, I can’t get past this part of your made up scenario. For that reason, I can’t immerse myself in the hypothetical and can’t answer your question. This seems like the same kind of post where a group of gun designers gets isekaied back to Rome or whatever, with really lazy writing and expecting the posters of the thread to do all the heavy lifting.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You have been time warped back to the wild west with your guns and some ammo
    >Do you think you can outgun them
    Hmm, my AR-10 with a 32x optic vs some guys with at best a bolt action rifle, but much more likely single shot rifles or maybe black powder lever actions all with no optics.

    I'm gonna go chill on top of a mesa and wipe the floor with these chumps from 800m away, they literally won't even be able to see me before dying.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thirty fucking two ecks optic
      Wanna know how I know you're a larperator?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's because I made a post on PrepHole that triggered your mentally stunted brain, I don't need to ask.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No its because an 800m shot only takes 4x magnification and only complete nowarz gays would use anything greater in combat. Hell you should be able to make that shot just using aperture irons if you could zero them in that well.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hell you should be able to make that shot just using aperture irons if you could zero them in that well.
            Yeah if you're shooting strongly contrasting targets that don't move and not people. So much for
            >nowarz
            nonsense.
            >No its because an 800m shot only takes 4x magnification
            You've never shot at 800m and it shows.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You'll have a say on the matter when you go to Ukraine and try to shoot someone across a field, which is exactly 800m.

              Well I mean having greater magnification doesn't makes your aim worse. But you'll learn that less magnification is better for variety of other reasons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You'll have a say on the matter when you go to Ukraine
                You first retard, I already shot dunecoons and frankly I think they're more competent than Russians.
                >Well I mean having greater magnification doesn't makes your aim worse.
                Yeah
                >But you'll learn that less magnification is better for variety of other reasons.
                And you'll learn that pretty much every optic has variable magnification. What century do you live in? But you brought up Ukraine. Are you posting at me from the fall of the Soviet Union? Hey asshole invest in apple, you'll thank me later. Also in like three decades Nightforce is gonna make some really sick optics that will blow your fucking mind and make you realize you lost this message board argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just came back, got a bunch of retarded medals like this one.
                >inb4 post em
                Believe me I would but I can't. Sorry m8, in my unit opsec is not optional.

                Also, sandmorons ain't shit. Being deployed to fight them is basically a vacation with a live targets firing range. Also no, hohols aren't more competent than Russians. They're basically the same fucking people who got the same training and gear. NATO countries mercs are, but so are Russian mercs. Basically, a merc to a soldier is like a soldier to an airshitter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >haha I would but I can't xD
                yeah sure bud

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have to believe me. I would offer you to verbally test me to see if I'm for real, but since you weren't there you don't actually know any insider shit that only people who were there will know is true. You know like if you asked why that one time when 1st brigade commander spoke over the radio with entrenched but nearly annihilated hohol conscript unit commander, why didn't hohols accept the offer to bomb the barrier troops behind their lines so they could desert, is because hohol nkvd had their families hostage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go dilate already. Your gash is closing up as we speak.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he is so far detached from what actually happens there he couldn't even begin to believe it when anyone speaks the truth about it
                That's part of the reason I'd offer you to test me: the real answers to those questions are so outlandish to everyone else that they would not even believe it's real, let alone make such a guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How developmentally challenged are you? You couldnt hold your point on 4x optics, you made a strawman argument about something completely unrelated tonthe topic of the thread and you are now larping as some mercenary specop retard. You lost your ass from top to bottom in this thread. Go dilate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See, my point exactly. Now I'll test you if you're for real: who were these 300 Russians who one day all mysteriously died and the Russian government refused to acknowledge any that, and how did they die? That's not secret information, just only people who were there know that's up. If you fail or dodge this question, we know you're larping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is just no sense in continuing this strawman with you. You are the only dickhead in this thread talking about ukraine or russia. This thread is about taking an AR back to the wild west and how overpowered you would be due to it. You made an asinine claim that optics essentially dont matter at 800m. You lost your ass and Im finished with you. I dont give a shit about anything you have to say past this. A note to add, im not the anon that you started arguing with either. Thanks for shitting up what could have been a fun thread, go dilate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >claim to be a sandmoron war veteran
                >get asked a simple question to verify that claim
                >"I-I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT! YOU'RE A chud! GO DILATE!!!"
                Stolen valor on anonymous fucking imageboard. I didn't think it's was possible to be more pathetic than veh deh veh, but then I remembered that larpetator civvies exist.

                https://i.imgur.com/QwpCNXh.jpg

                >Sorry m8, in my unit opsec is not optional.
                Bud you're retarded as hell, even if anyone wanted to believe your larp you've already proven you're not Artyom Rubchenko who by the way works for a museum (i.e. is not an active-duty Russian soldier). Secondly, you're attempt to sound ESL is unconvincing.

                >like this one
                >implying this one isn't mine
                bro your dum.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Reading comprehension - something you clearly lack. I am an entirely different anon from the one you started arguing with. You should be able to tell. Go dilate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well it's not that I didn't understand what I read, I just didn't read it. It can be hard to tell people apart just by their manner of writing alone when you skip most of it. Also the strawman argument here is yours - I never said optics didn't matter, I said you don't realistically need more than 4x and it's doable, if poorly, without an optic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dont try to redact your ignorance now. You made retarded claims and you can at least be a man and stand by them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you expect anyone to believe you're a 50 year old Russian museum director posting on k, again you're fucking retarded. Post gun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sorry m8, in my unit opsec is not optional.
                Bud you're retarded as hell, even if anyone wanted to believe your larp you've already proven you're not Artyom Rubchenko who by the way works for a museum (i.e. is not an active-duty Russian soldier). Secondly, you're attempt to sound ESL is unconvincing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You fought for luhansk ppls republic, anon..?
                Post used up cammies or be forever silent

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                S'all I got left. Tossed into the bin everything else. This goes into the trash soon, too.

                So you expect anyone to believe you're a 50 year old Russian museum director posting on k, again you're fucking retarded. Post gun.

                What gun, moron? You don't get to take them home. Also i'm 30 thank you very much.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >medal certificate literally says Artyom Rubchenko
                >retarded NEET doesn't realize reverse image search exists
                have a nice day gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/iB5QahZ.jpg

                >medal certificate literally says Artyom Rubchenko
                >retarded NEET doesn't realize reverse image search exists
                have a nice day gay.

                Ya fucking gorilla retard moron, let me spell that out for you: the picture I posted wasn't my medal which I mentioned, I indeed just looked up on the internet the same one and posted the first pic I found. Congrats, Sherlock, you figured out something I didn't even attempt to hide .

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                post it then gay, if you really could read cyrillic then you'd know the lpr medal for military merit has no personal names on it and there'd be no opsec risk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There were just over twenty guys who got one recently. It wont be hard for glowmorons to figure out who it belongs to. The risk here isn't even getting blacklisted, it's getting your balls pincered by foreign organizations so they make you do shit that basically amounts to treason.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                jesus you really are a mongoloid, if you admit to having one and they can somehow identify you from it by posting pics then they just as easily identify you without a pic. keep larping

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know. But as you pointed out, right now it's basically just larp as far as anyone is concerned. It's in my best interests to keep it that way. That usually involves being completely silent, but I figure I can toss some bullshit sounding tidbits into an anonymous Vietnamese sneakers factory workers forum.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > anon makes shit up on PrepHole and hopes people believe him
                > nobody does

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think this will go like you think it would, yes your rifle has further range and higher rate of fire but them boys got some serious time on their guns and you'll probably get popped after dropping a few

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, I can hit a man-size target out to 1000 yards with my AR 10. They won't know what hit them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Folks were competing with 45-70 trap doors beyond 2000 yards. That's not everyone of course but, 1000 yards is not some insurmountable challenge.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Folks were competing with 45-70 trap doors beyond 2000 yards
          You can't see a man sized target at 2000 yards.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can clearly see my dick from 2000 yards

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not even the Hubble could manage that I'm afraid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're also far more used to combat and shitty situations than you, they're harder men. You might pop off a few before the rest ride up close enough to pop you.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can outgun them just using my stabby stick and the loot I pick off of them. With the AK that I own I put bullets into man sized targets from 500m range. I also happen to know how to camouflage, pick good positions, and build fortifications. Which is to say, they're all completely fucked.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >suppressed AR
    Yeah I think on foot I have an advantage, but they probably have horses so I'm still fucked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoot their horses

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I get the drop on them and they don't have high end long range rifles or something and just have henrys and SAAs, then a 16" barreled AR with a 1-6 ought to be able to outrange them pretty easily.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use an MDR and HK P30 you fucking poorfag.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely. Even a "sharp shooter" with some shitty lever action is not realistically going to be able to achieve precision hits beyond 150 yards or so. Meanwhile, quick chest shots at 300 yards are a fucking joke for me. Not to mention the capacity and rate of fire advantage.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to parley with the sheriff and begin the 0.1st Reich in America as my knowledge of financial investment, judaism, and history allows me to patent and innovate in weapons industries that are already growing rapidly.

    I'll have every garden gnome gassed with my braps and in mass gravys before 1880.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >magnifier behind a pistol optic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a red dot. It doesn't work any different from any other red dot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just get an aimpoint for as much as they cost

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the principle of it though

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid thread derailed by a gay larper. Here's a much more interesting question: If you were sent back in time to the mid 1800s with an AR and Glock do you think gun makers of the time would be able to reverse engineer them?

    I'm guessing it would be relatively easy for them to make an all steel Glock. The AR would probably be much more of a challenge, but they might be able to make some facsimile of it with wood and iron. I'm guessing some of the tiny springs will be hard to source as things small and fine might only exist in watches and clocks in the time period. The hardest part would be manufacturing ammo that can reliable function in the guns.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think you can outgun them with your AR15 and Glock?

    Do I have NVG or thermals?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but I would not use my AR or my Glock

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