I'm not sure what Seths obsession with tearing Brian down was about, nor why it had to come from a perverted rapist and likely pedophile. Some sort of, "if even the bad guy is calling you out, imagine how terrible you must be" thing?
In any case every time writers of "adult shows" try something deeper than a puddle, they frick up because it isn't the right medium. It's close to impossible to create heartfelt or poignant moments and only the rarest of shows manage despite themselves, and it has to be earned. Not just treated like a throwaway gag where the joke is that there is no joke, and they're being serious.
>aren't you a serial rapist?
Quagmire's "oh at least I don't pretend to be someone else" argument wouldn't work here. Brian really should have went all in, but acting like a 15 year old obsessed schoolgirl trying to win Quagmire's affection was the root cause of his loss here.
The whole point was that Quagmire was aware of how bad his actions were and he was honest about it while Brian kept acting like he's a great person that everyone should like despite how obnoxious and terrible he is.
Jesus Christ, it's hard to believe how braindead you morons are for failing to understand family guy writing.
>was aware of how bad his actions were and he was honest about it
Okay.
So that makes him better or more qualifies to tear someone else down, somehow?
Being an unapologetic rapist is better than being a douchebag?
How the frick does that work. Is this American "morality" at work?
You need to be "qualified" to point out someone's flaws now? What? So in your fricked up Black person brain so long as someone is slightly worse than you they have to pretend you're a moral paragon? What type of weird moron logic is this
yeah before the internet you needed authority to make statements like this. "appeal to authority" means you have the wrong kind of authority, e.g. "Professor Smith says smoking causes more good than harm" but then he's a professor of nuclear physics
"only an accurate argument will work" is literally a 2channel/PrepHole invention. anonymous people can't be correct.
>Be a rapist >Wanted to frick your friend's underage daughter >Trying to act like is ok because you know you are a shitty person
It only made it worse because he believe his problem will dissapear if he and other people ignored it
>Be a rapist >Wanted to frick your friend's underage daughter >Trying to act like is ok because you know you are a shitty person
It only made it worse because he believe his problem will dissapear if he and other people ignored it
>Calls out Brian for trying to sleep with Lois >When Quagmire broke up Cleveland's first marriage by sleeping with his wife and lied to Joe to sleep with his wife >And tried to frick Meg >Calls out Brian for not visiting his son when one of Quagmire's bastards shows up every few seasons. They even had a gag about this https://youtu.be/GTBrLttSgwo
I get that they needed to tear Brian down but they could've gone with Joe or Cleveland or something. If I was Alec Baldwin and John Wayne Gacy started lecturing me on why I'm a bad person for being a vapid actor who shot someone I'd just roll my eyes
>it had to come from a perverted rapist and likely pedophile
quagmire's honest about his vices and downfalls, brian is peak liar about his. brian (used to) eat up a lot of peter's time and spout his nonsense, quagmire probably sees his basically mentally moronic friend being taken advantage of by a scumbag live-in 'friend'
brian serves a purpose in the show but as a person out of context, hoo boy
>In any case every time writers of "adult shows" try something deeper than a puddle, they frick up because it isn't the right medium
a great example (also coincidentally involving Quagmire) is the episode where Quagmire's sister and her abusive husband come to visit.
I didn't think this episode was deep or pretentious at all. Just because it deals with more heavy subject matter doesn't mean they weren't constantly making jokes about domestic violence.
>I'm not sure what Seths obsession with tearing Brian down was about
there's no congruence to anything they make. as you mentioned quagmire was a sexual predator so he's literally the last person on earth to judge anyone for anything. this shit starts and ends within an episode and the writers don't care, so why do you?
Brian is Seth's self-insert, he does not put on a voice for brian and it's all his exact opinions and moral compass.
Make up your own reason why he would want a representation of himself be deconstructed.
This scene is just making fun of themselves so that they can have plausible deniability later on if they get “cancelled” for anything. “See, we make fun of everyone! Including ourselves!”
It’s a israeli tactic.
My oh my, is this handsome man supposed to be me? If you wanted to mock me, why would you pick an avatar so handsome… I must say… quite ravishing indeed
Living a 10million inhabitant city made me so cold toward homeless people.
A kid who couldn't have been older than 13 was begging for money in the street and my first thought was "you know what sucks more, he's probably forced by his parents to do this" and i walked away
>aren't you a serial rapist?
Quagmire's "oh at least I don't pretend to be someone else" argument wouldn't work here. Brian really should have went all in, but acting like a 15 year old obsessed schoolgirl trying to win Quagmire's affection was the root cause of his loss here.
He attacks Brian's Liberal agenda implying he votes Republican even though Republicans create more homeless people with their policies as well as cutting food stamps etc to create more hunger. So this moron votes to create problems but he serves soup to a few people whoop de doo.
Both of course. Just because Quagmire is honest about what an absolute monster of a human being he is doesn't make him better than Brian. Last I checked Brian never engaged in human trafficking, rape and slavery.
Quagmire should be locked up, not doing "hot takes" about the supposed hypocrisy of another character. It's like they forgot that Brian is a dog and the premise is too stupid to try this level of serious dialogue.
This is how I view the scene. Quagmire isn't assuming any moral high ground here, he's just answering Brian's question honestly and explaining exactly why he hates him. Quagmire doesn't hate Brian because Brian is a terrible person, Quagmire hates Brain because Brian is insufferable.
No you're not a bad person if you don't work at the soup kitchen. But if you pass your time preaching about what people must do to improve the situation and then expect others to do it, then yes you are a bad person. It's not difficult to understand, although i suspect you're just trolling
>But if you pass your time preaching about what people must do to improve the situation and then expect others to do it, then yes you are a bad person
There are people called life coaches and psychiatrists who do that for a living and you generally wouldn't call them bad people.
Brian's advice is unsolicited, but so is Quagmire's dumb rant.
Either one of them should have said, "neither of us is going to get anything positive out of this talk so let's call it here".
But Seth really, really wanted this for some reason.
>But Seth really, really wanted this for some reason.
didn't this rant happen like 10 years after Seth stopped being involved with family guy outside of doing voices?
Brian asks why Quagmire doesn’t like him. Quagmire lists everything he dislikes about Brian, but says none of it really matters and that he only avoids him because he is boring. If asked why he hates Peter, Quagmire could probably go on for an entire season why he dislikes Peter. But Peter is fun and that’s why Quagmire hangs out with him. Simple as
A lot of prius drivers in this thread still seething about this scene and taking it seriously because they are the holier than thou narcissists the scene was written for.
>how dare you criticize me... I mean Brian... you you you..... REPUBLICAN!
Everyone hung up on whataboutism as if the fictional characters traits invalidates the overall criticism of self righteous pompous liberals who virtue signal but don't actually do anything to help anyone but themselves. Watch them seethe all over this thread. Both the left and the right are full of their own flavors of shit but look at how they seethe when they have to look at themselves in the mirror, over a cartoon of all things.
>reading this thread
Wow guys apparently I'm not as autistic as I thought because some of you frickers are straight up mentally handicapped. Jesus Christ have mercy.
I genuinely believe none of you have a formal background in dialectics or rhetoric. The argumenta on display here are so farcical, it borders on parody.
This scene was the writers just replacing their soapbox stand in Brian for Quagmire. Notice in the more recent episodes it's always Quagmire now who has to be the voice for the writer's opinions? I can't be the only one.
holy shit a talking dog
I'm not sure what Seths obsession with tearing Brian down was about, nor why it had to come from a perverted rapist and likely pedophile. Some sort of, "if even the bad guy is calling you out, imagine how terrible you must be" thing?
In any case every time writers of "adult shows" try something deeper than a puddle, they frick up because it isn't the right medium. It's close to impossible to create heartfelt or poignant moments and only the rarest of shows manage despite themselves, and it has to be earned. Not just treated like a throwaway gag where the joke is that there is no joke, and they're being serious.
everyone likes brian because they are normal dog loving people. quagmire is a filthy cat loving pervert so he is the only one set up to hate on brian.
The whole point was that Quagmire was aware of how bad his actions were and he was honest about it while Brian kept acting like he's a great person that everyone should like despite how obnoxious and terrible he is.
Jesus Christ, it's hard to believe how braindead you morons are for failing to understand family guy writing.
>was aware of how bad his actions were and he was honest about it
Okay.
So that makes him better or more qualifies to tear someone else down, somehow?
Being an unapologetic rapist is better than being a douchebag?
How the frick does that work. Is this American "morality" at work?
its a cartoon not Dickens
Buffoon.
You need to be "qualified" to point out someone's flaws now? What? So in your fricked up Black person brain so long as someone is slightly worse than you they have to pretend you're a moral paragon? What type of weird moron logic is this
yeah before the internet you needed authority to make statements like this. "appeal to authority" means you have the wrong kind of authority, e.g. "Professor Smith says smoking causes more good than harm" but then he's a professor of nuclear physics
"only an accurate argument will work" is literally a 2channel/PrepHole invention. anonymous people can't be correct.
Dog brain tier moronic as frick honestly, thank God we don't do shit like that anymore if we ever even did
I'm not sure that being a self-aware serial rapist makes you better than being a hypocritical, bleeding heart liberal
>Be a rapist
>Wanted to frick your friend's underage daughter
>Trying to act like is ok because you know you are a shitty person
It only made it worse because he believe his problem will dissapear if he and other people ignored it
>Calls out Brian for trying to sleep with Lois
>When Quagmire broke up Cleveland's first marriage by sleeping with his wife and lied to Joe to sleep with his wife
>And tried to frick Meg
>Calls out Brian for not visiting his son when one of Quagmire's bastards shows up every few seasons. They even had a gag about this https://youtu.be/GTBrLttSgwo
I get that they needed to tear Brian down but they could've gone with Joe or Cleveland or something. If I was Alec Baldwin and John Wayne Gacy started lecturing me on why I'm a bad person for being a vapid actor who shot someone I'd just roll my eyes
>it had to come from a perverted rapist and likely pedophile
quagmire's honest about his vices and downfalls, brian is peak liar about his. brian (used to) eat up a lot of peter's time and spout his nonsense, quagmire probably sees his basically mentally moronic friend being taken advantage of by a scumbag live-in 'friend'
brian serves a purpose in the show but as a person out of context, hoo boy
>quagmire's honest about his vices and downfalls
That is NOT to his fricking credit, I hope you understand that.
Seth has nothing to do with the show. He stopped writing a long time ago. Same with American dad.
>In any case every time writers of "adult shows" try something deeper than a puddle, they frick up because it isn't the right medium
a great example (also coincidentally involving Quagmire) is the episode where Quagmire's sister and her abusive husband come to visit.
I didn't think this episode was deep or pretentious at all. Just because it deals with more heavy subject matter doesn't mean they weren't constantly making jokes about domestic violence.
>I'm not sure what Seths obsession with tearing Brian down was about
there's no congruence to anything they make. as you mentioned quagmire was a sexual predator so he's literally the last person on earth to judge anyone for anything. this shit starts and ends within an episode and the writers don't care, so why do you?
>t. self-inserts as Brian
Seething didn't write it
Brian is Seth's self-insert, he does not put on a voice for brian and it's all his exact opinions and moral compass.
Make up your own reason why he would want a representation of himself be deconstructed.
Brian is became a self parody for Seth a long time ago, this is just him self loathing
Because Brian is a piece of shit while being sanctimonious on top of that, which is the most insufferable combination you can be.
This scene is just making fun of themselves so that they can have plausible deniability later on if they get “cancelled” for anything. “See, we make fun of everyone! Including ourselves!”
It’s a israeli tactic.
family guy im peter
I don't know why she's so attractive to me, but there's something about Lois porn
MILF is a thing.
yeah, but she's a cartoon with a weird head. nevertheless, I want to see her frick.
It's not even a good takedown. And at least Brian is right about religiontards
>religiontards
>It's not even a good takedown. And at least Brian is right about religiontards
My oh my, is this handsome man supposed to be me? If you wanted to mock me, why would you pick an avatar so handsome… I must say… quite ravishing indeed
Living a 10million inhabitant city made me so cold toward homeless people.
A kid who couldn't have been older than 13 was begging for money in the street and my first thought was "you know what sucks more, he's probably forced by his parents to do this" and i walked away
>aren't you a serial rapist?
Quagmire's "oh at least I don't pretend to be someone else" argument wouldn't work here. Brian really should have went all in, but acting like a 15 year old obsessed schoolgirl trying to win Quagmire's affection was the root cause of his loss here.
He attacks Brian's Liberal agenda implying he votes Republican even though Republicans create more homeless people with their policies as well as cutting food stamps etc to create more hunger. So this moron votes to create problems but he serves soup to a few people whoop de doo.
Hey look its a 13 year old moron from 2007. How interesting
>that level of moronation
nice trolling
>the jerk store called
Serial rapists and childless full-blown degenerates also tend to not be Republicans, so yeah it is a bit a bit of a switchup
>Serial rapists and childless full-blown degenerates also tend to not be Republicans
in what universe
Both of course. Just because Quagmire is honest about what an absolute monster of a human being he is doesn't make him better than Brian. Last I checked Brian never engaged in human trafficking, rape and slavery.
He's calling him a hypocrite, not an awful person.
Quagmire should be locked up, not doing "hot takes" about the supposed hypocrisy of another character. It's like they forgot that Brian is a dog and the premise is too stupid to try this level of serious dialogue.
This is how I view the scene. Quagmire isn't assuming any moral high ground here, he's just answering Brian's question honestly and explaining exactly why he hates him. Quagmire doesn't hate Brian because Brian is a terrible person, Quagmire hates Brain because Brian is insufferable.
Both of them, with Brian for his assholish actions and Quagmire using said actions to berate him for it even though he's just as worse
No you're not a bad person if you don't work at the soup kitchen. But if you pass your time preaching about what people must do to improve the situation and then expect others to do it, then yes you are a bad person. It's not difficult to understand, although i suspect you're just trolling
>But if you pass your time preaching about what people must do to improve the situation and then expect others to do it, then yes you are a bad person
There are people called life coaches and psychiatrists who do that for a living and you generally wouldn't call them bad people.
Brian's advice is unsolicited, but so is Quagmire's dumb rant.
Either one of them should have said, "neither of us is going to get anything positive out of this talk so let's call it here".
But Seth really, really wanted this for some reason.
>But Seth really, really wanted this for some reason.
didn't this rant happen like 10 years after Seth stopped being involved with family guy outside of doing voices?
Brian asks why Quagmire doesn’t like him. Quagmire lists everything he dislikes about Brian, but says none of it really matters and that he only avoids him because he is boring. If asked why he hates Peter, Quagmire could probably go on for an entire season why he dislikes Peter. But Peter is fun and that’s why Quagmire hangs out with him. Simple as
Is Peter really that fun to hang out with?
He's a mean psychopath and when he isn't he just sits and drinks doing cutaway gags.
I don't get this site's obsession with this scene. I see it posted every week
Vinnie > Brian the liberal homosexual
A lot of prius drivers in this thread still seething about this scene and taking it seriously because they are the holier than thou narcissists the scene was written for.
So are you the rapist who delivered the blow?
Yes I delivered the blow
What do we think of the bank vault episode?
>how dare you criticize me... I mean Brian... you you you..... REPUBLICAN!
Everyone hung up on whataboutism as if the fictional characters traits invalidates the overall criticism of self righteous pompous liberals who virtue signal but don't actually do anything to help anyone but themselves. Watch them seethe all over this thread. Both the left and the right are full of their own flavors of shit but look at how they seethe when they have to look at themselves in the mirror, over a cartoon of all things.
Quagmire is guilty of literally everything he accuses brian of. They should've used joe or cleveland instead
I see what you're getting at, but at the same time it kind of makes it worse that it's quagmire of all people.
No, because it made quagmire looks worse.
If you want to use a shitty person , just use Lois's father.
>reading this thread
Wow guys apparently I'm not as autistic as I thought because some of you frickers are straight up mentally handicapped. Jesus Christ have mercy.
right before he says that he also points out how Brian constantly complains about how terrible homelessness is in the United States
seth, for using le whacky pervert character as his personal mouthpiece for this scene
Brian is a hypocritical douchebag, but Quagmire is an evil monster, so his words fall flat.
I genuinely believe none of you have a formal background in dialectics or rhetoric. The argumenta on display here are so farcical, it borders on parody.
What's your "formal background on dialetics" pretentious homosexual?
Take your formal dilator and frick off m8
Shove it up your ass, b***h.
true
The fact that you can't see the obvious satire says more about you than this board
Brian is a douchebag.
Still, I prefer a douchebag over a rapist any day of the week.
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God i miss patrice
This scene was the writers just replacing their soapbox stand in Brian for Quagmire. Notice in the more recent episodes it's always Quagmire now who has to be the voice for the writer's opinions? I can't be the only one.
>Sexual degenerate despises someone for being chill
It was ahead of it's time