You do not need anything other than an MP5K for self defense

Change my mind.

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

LifeStraw Water Filter for Hiking and Preparedness

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer the full size.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp
      pcc's are suppose to have carbine barrels

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have an AP5 with a binary trigger and it's pretty cool bananas.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you give me one then

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you'll never be arrested and interrogated by a big busty British undercover operative.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Important question: Does the big busty British broad have a Brobdingnagian bush?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It was the 1970s. Of course.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whats the story on this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You see anon.. BOOBA!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://reaperfeed.com/deadly-women-dirty-laundry-and-a-shootout-with-the-ira/

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you don't own that mp5 you don't even have a gun way too poor for that money noguns

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have an mp5k with just a single point and a couple mags
      still all anyone ever needs

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    im starting a security job and im debating on asking the owner if i can carry my fullsize

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, the SBR craze is due to operator LARP. Those guys use SBRs because they are familiar with the weapon using a longer barrel and because they need to hit targets at ranges far greater than your normal home defense scenario.

    SMGs offer less risk of over pen, are quieter, smaller, and have significantly less recoil. Obviously, it's ideal to have FA as an option, but the recoil, size, 30+ round capacity, are all ideal for defense.

    There is a reason law enforcement and hostage rescue still use these

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      *sigh*
      5.56 penetrates far less than 9mm

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but

        No it doesnt lmao

        9mm fmj is not going to be stopped by the thin walls of an American suburban home.

        He didnt say anything about fmj

        If your argument is "muh overpen through drywall," literally anything that will kill a human being reliably is going to go through more drywall than you have in your house.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >He didnt say anything about fmj
          JHP isn't going to expand in drywall so it doesn't really matter, also many JHPs have a mechanically or chemically bonded bullet, some also have tough higher antimony cores. Most will penetrate as much or more through housing materials than FMJ.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Good the 9mm posted in that video is a 124gr gold dot so I guess either way my point stands lol.

            The 5.56 is m193 from a 16" barrel and the buck is 00, just so we're clear.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking noguns.

          9mm hollowpoints do not expand in drywall whereas 55gr 5.56 will fragment. It works even better with the carmines tipped shit. PCCshitters are so fricking stupid. Learn something you thick fricks

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            b***h literally watch the video I posted. The top projectile is m193 out of a 16" barrel blowing straight through 7.5 interior walls, aka 15 sheets of drywall, before it stops. Compared to a 124gr gold dot jhp and 00 buck penning 7 and stopping.
            "5.56 is less likely to penetrate the walls of your house than 9mm" is nū-fuddlore, I'm sorry to break it to you

            My point here, for the record, is not that 5.56 is worse than 9mm for home defense or house-clearing, simply that how many walls a given projectile will punch through should not factor into your decision-making because any round that's going to kill a human reliably will go through more drywall than you have in your house, so don't fricking miss.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >a single load did X
              >therefore all loads in the same caliber will do X
              is this nigguh serious?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Well name loads and provide evidence then motherfricker
                M193 out of a 16" barrel is the most common 5.56 loading out of the most common barrel length in North America by such a wide margin that acting any other way is laughable. The test is literally "how many interior walls will the most common self-defense loads penetrate?" And then an apples-to-apples comparison.
                >well I carry peepeepoopoo xm192847493 HE-tipped BTHPs
                Lmao odds are 90:1 you dont even own a single gun, much less an AR, and if you do, it's a shit AR loaded with frickin winchester white box

                You've got arguments to the contrary, let's see some frickin evidence then, not just anecdotes you read on this website that were repeated ad nauseam by other people who also didnt know what the frick they were talking about.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon blows a motherfricker out so hard it kills the thread

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Hang on a minute

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Afc south champions

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You're a dumbfrick.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking noguns.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      9mm fmj is not going to be stopped by the thin walls of an American suburban home.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, the main benefit of the SBR is putting bigger holes in things meaning you have to connect fewer times to get good effect on target. The gulf between a fragmenting 5.56 round and an expanding 9mm JHP for instance is pretty massive in terms of wound size. That's a nice thing to have on your side if the bad guy is planning on putting up a fight. As far as the recoil thing goes I only really notice a meaningful difference between MP5 style delayed blowbacks and SBRs, direct blowbacks(even the meme ones) are pretty much the same recoil wise. IME even with the MP5s I'm not throwing out doubletaps appreciably faster, the two projectiles are just landing closer together, which is of dubious merit when both are still in the vitals and the 5.56 is making bigger holes. I like PCCs/SMGs and think they're plenty adequate for HD but SBRs have meaningful benefits.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >law enforcement and hostage rescue
      Have by and large switched to SBRs

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    there is no point in buying these things in america until the nfa is repealed

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They're fun

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly, this. SMGs are super cool, but semi auto PCCs (fricking hate that that word exists) are the gayest thing ever.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They're nice for suppressing.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I never needed a gun for self-defense, only for hunting, but I used to live in a really rough neighborhood and once scared off some home invaders with a machete which was weird, no one got hurt thankfully

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >...and once scared off some home invaders with a machete...
      Me too! I was alone when some racist white people came in after they trashed the place. my ma left me all alone and I was terrified. after I screeched at them to leave the police came in and did nothing.

      That's when i decided to buy a gun and not give the curtesy of buying clean hollowpoints for when they eventually come for me again.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >You do not need anything other than an MP5K for self defense
    >You do not need anything for self defense
    FTFY, learn to act confidently.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Newbie question, but why would you make an SMG that has the same barrel length as a pistol? With a bigger barrel, okay you get better accuracy and projectile speed, but this is just 2-3x the size of a pistol with same mentioned above stats. Looks like 4-5 inches barrel.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You'll still be more accurate due to the stable platform and originally it has automatic fire obviously.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You don'tget significantly better accuracy, in short guns like these that's mostly determined by A. having a stock and B. optics, if presents and C. sight radius, which the MP5 still has plenty of. So, practical accuracy is a lot better than a pistol.
      You also don't get a lot more speed from a9 inch barrel, over a 4-5 inch, for example, because most of the pistol caliber's powder has already burned at that point. For a home defense gun I'd rather have a 4-5 inch barrel with a suppressor than a 9 inch barrel only: I like my hearing, thank you very much. In that case, you wouldn't even want more velocity because you're shooting subsonic ammo.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        All good points. IMO the main pro for the longer length barrels(let's say 8-10) is that if you're a bigger guy they're already pretty cramped and can get kind of uncomfortable to use for prolonged range time with lurch arms. The really short ones are even worse without a vfg, you're twisting your wrist at a pretty awkward angle at that point for instance. There's also the question of mounting a light/switch in a fashion that's easy to use without overcrowding the foregrip area. If I'm willing to run a 2 stamp gun for HD then the super shorties are overall better given the OAL increase of a can and ability to mount a VFG but if I'm not then a no stamp regular size works better for me. Velocity increase with them if anything is a down side, pretty much everything on the market is optimized for pistol length barrels and some loads may perform less than ideally with that extra velocity.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      4-5 inches is all you need though. Anything more than that is just unneccesary. Why do you make it sound like that's small, wtf...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You don't get batter accuracy with a longer barrel. You get a flatter trajectory, which means less bullet drop to compensate for over long distances and with some firearms you get a long sight radius which may make it easier for the user to aim accurately. Neither of these equate to the gun actually being more consistent or accurate from a bench. That's a common misconception. In fact, short barrels are arguably more accurate because they will have less resonances and tuning, being inherently stiffer.
      The question is what do you want from the gun and the ammo? When do you reach the diminishing return on velocity vs barrel length and how much do you value concealment?

      The answer to your question is that heavy 9mm burns it's powder up in a pretty short length of barrel and if you want to suppress, that's going to add more length. Plus 147gr 9mm is considered naturally subsonic but some hotter loadings are right on the line. So, to make sure you avoid the sonic boom, it may behoove you to make a short barrel and pair it with a good suppressor.

      I actually agree with you though. That gun is stupid, particularly if you aren't suppressing and even if you do suppress you have to replace the roller block to match the delay to the back pressure. Otherwise you could damage your gun. That's just annoying.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >even if you do suppress you have to replace the roller block to match the delay to the back pressure

        80 degree locking block is like $50 and it's fine with the original if you use a suppressor with low back pressure. You watched a YouTube video but don't own one. Ask me how I know.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PCC's are a weird thing, where there is this tiny window of "you cant make an SBR this small" and "better than a pistol." Like its actually kinda hard to find a package that is both comfortable to use and more compact than an SBR

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't agree more, now where can I get one?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ok but 10mm

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don't those things beat themselves to death?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        dunno. i doubt i'll shoot it enough for that to happen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Cucked semi auto vector
      Like driving a lamborghini stuck in valet mode

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah at least its le 1 centimeter. i wonder if there are any bubba ways of making it auto

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are you defending yourself from?

    Because for the last century the number one thing you need to defend yourself from is your own government. Even with world wars, government violence against its own citizens remains #1. Therefore, you would need to know what armor your law enforcement and military use in order to answer this question.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I need an MP5SD though

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I also have an "MP5". A little big tbh...

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I want an mp5k so bad bros

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Repeal NFA

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Die Hard combo.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What about self offense?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What chestrig?

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    well if the brace ban goes through good luck buying a cheap mp5k clone

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      shut up cuck

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You will get arrested if you take away all the limiters to make it a practical weapon.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    can mp5 into 10mm pls?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's been a thing since 1992 and it has an AR15 bold hold open and release

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's the canonical weapon of Rainbow Six too.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you're the poor frick with the M60 that doesn't get any action. At least he got to punch a guy to death at euro Disney

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I use my wiener as a SAP

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If we didn't have the NFA, cheap full giggle PDW's would be amazing to keep in the car. Too big to carry around, small enough to stash in the car, powerful enough to fend off most threats.

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *