>You are given $10 billion to modernise the Irish Defence Forces

>You are given $10 billion to modernise the Irish Defence Forces
What do you buy?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bombs

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick I'm a moron I meant $10 billion per year

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Embezzle 25% at least and build myself a fat retirement fund, get another 15% from a military contractor to an order in exchange of making them the primer seller of equipment for the army. And of course, don't forget to make that order 2x more expensive than it needs to fill the pockets of the contractor and any other official getting to nosy on my scheming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ireland doesn't really seem to do much more than peacekeeping operations so it'd still be focused more around that than anything else but with much greater capabilities.
      >5 F-16Ds
      >5 AH-64Ds
      >10 Super Tucanos unless the OV-10X is actually produced and offered at a better price
      >2 C-17 Globemasters
      >two complete IRIS-T batteries
      >10 complete Scan Eagle systems
      >about $250m worth of CV-90s with 30mm cannons
      >about $250m worth of CV-90s with 105mm cannons
      >about $50m on CV-90s with 120mm cannons
      >fund a program to make a new series of camo uniforms that are not just multicam variant #42069
      >replace AUGs with Bren 2s
      >dump the FAL for Bren 2 BRs
      >replace majority of FN MAGs with M-60E6
      >issue full giggle PCCs similar to the Flux Raider to armored vehicle crews
      >issue basic red dots and LPVOs for pretty much everything
      >order a bunch of the latest Stingers and Javelins we could actually use (no need for fancy super expensive datalinks)
      >about 2.3 metric fricktons of ammo
      >a pile of consumer drones for spotting and dropping mortars/frags with money set aside for additional upgrades
      >convert all outdated small arms to semi-auto and sell them to Americans for additional funds, and I do mean all of them

      This could be over budget as I'm not actually doing the math but it'd be the goal. Assume necessary training is included for each product if necessary.

      >per year
      What I've laid out but more of most of it over a 5 year period and better support of the things we don't buy more of. I think the aircraft will be fine at those numbers but supporting them is important. The only major change would be the F-16Ds being F-16Es. I'd add at least four heavy lift helicopters and a large cargo vessel or suitably large landing ship. Truly excess funds would be invested including into companies we're buying this stuff from. I'd also give myself a one time payment of 25,000,000 after the first year's worth of products arrives and take no further payments.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    new camo pattern because ewwwwwwwwwwwww

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are apparently buying some basic-b***h multicam to replace the famous Paddyflage. Tbf to Irish DPM, it does look suitable for a country filled with bogs and rolling green hills.

      https://i.imgur.com/lDSzuSA.jpg

      >You are given $10 billion to modernise the Irish Defence Forces
      What do you buy?

      Best to first fix conditions and recruitment before buying any big ticket items like Frigates, Jets, Tanks etc. The defence forces are well below their budgeted levels of personnel due to poor retention and recruiting policies.
      >https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/defence-forces-erosion-revealed-discharges-running-at-double-the-rate-of-recruitment/42260907.html
      Realistically, a small nation is never going to be able to recruit and maintain a large professional force. The only way Ireland could maintain a larger or more capable military appropriate for a $10 billion budget would be conscription or national service. They could then reasonably create a military force similar to Finland, Switzerland or Norway - a decent Air Force with 50-70 or so 4th or 5th gen jets, a navy with a small number of frigates and SSKs like Norway.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They are apparently buying some basic-b***h multicam to replace the famous Paddyflage.
        the new pattern is called ITMP, it is being introduced as DPM is not suitable for the locations Irish peacekeepers deploy to, the desert DPM was abandoned a while ago so current peacekeepers in Lebenon wear woodland DPM
        >Paddyflage
        No one in Ireland calls it that they just call it DPM, that started as an internet meme

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Basically this. The Irish should focus on a reserve style land force and focus their budget on professional Naval/Air assets.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >new camo pattern because ewwwwwwwwwwwww
      hating on DPM should be a bannable offense

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you have to be 18

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Irish DPM
      I bought an Irish DPM smock off of a EU surplus site. It's pretty comfy.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some balls. Imagine telling an Irishman from 20 years ago that the country would be run by foreigners and brown rape gangs would be roaming the streets.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That disgusting Palestine support too

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Irish hate the British. The British created Israel. Simple as.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i don't hate the British that's been over a long tome, I fricking hate muslims and their lefty pro Palestinian bullshit and I'd be first in line to kill the IRSP and all of moscows quislings in PBP etc if it became legal in a civil conflict.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Based paddy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              We don't kill enough people acting as agents for foreign hostile powers in Ireland. If it was up to me I'd kill all their kids as the product of traitors as I'm not inkind and gentle like the provos but I'm not in charge

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hating Britain = palestine support
          Whoah, that explains why all the london mutts have been protesting non stop since the great Frick Around/Find Out of October '23

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10 million tons of ANFO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      underrated

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. Amalgamate the Republic of Ireland into the United Kingdom
    2. Make Catholicism illegal and punishable by death
    3. Execute every single person who has ever been affiliated with the IRA or Sinn Fein
    4. Irish Army becomes part of the British Army

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Cromwell reincarnate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a litteral
      prottie
      spotted

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We tried this and it didn't work. Now we have to deal with immigrant invaders.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of people from the Republic of Ireland joining the British Military is at record high levels.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The amount of people from the Republic of Ireland joining the British Military is at record high levels.
          So what, every military on the planet from the US to Ukraine to the FFL has Irish.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty ironic isnt it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Pretty ironic isnt it
              Never heard of the wild geese? Ireland avoids national military entanglement because Ireland gave the blood for every major battle and conflict from the Napoleonic wars to WW1 and it's men will never be involuntarily under the command of foreigners again because of that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fuun fact Seán Mac Stíofáin ( 17 February 1928 – 18 May 2001) was an English-born chief of staff of the Provisional IRA, a position he held between 1969 and 1972. He was before being conscripted into the Royal Air Force in 1945. He attained the rank of corporal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >1. Amalgamate the Republic of Ireland into the United Kingdom
      >2. Make Catholicism illegal and punishable by death
      >3. Execute every single person who has ever been affiliated with the IRA or Sinn Fein
      >4. Irish Army becomes part of the British Army
      Well then I go to war with you and kill your countrymen, maybe your family, no shits given, you're a muslim/hindu brit trying to do your evil

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy your million bombers seeking Republican martyrdom where your family live. You'd get them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ireland will outlast the UK btw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ireland will outlast the UK btw
        And the EU, USA and China, island nation and a millennia old nation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A country that relies on the UK for an airforce will manage in a hot war
        It's just not going to happen since both sides have nothing to gain, the only reason Ireland isn't taken over at this point is the UK doesn't actually want or need it to be taken, they're generally happy with the current arrangements and they don't need a war for basically frick all reason that would kill so many of their people, for what? Paddy land that they all have holiday homes in anyway? Nah, shits fine as it is.

        OP is an American c**t.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It's just not going to happen since both sides have nothing to gain, the only reason Ireland isn't taken over at this point is the UK doesn't actually want or need it to be taken
          Have of the UK would cease to exist within a year if the UK attacked Ireland, you have absolutely no idea just how bad that would get for the UK. That kind of delusion is common with Brexit types though? How are all your global trade agreements going? All cozy with your frick huge recession caused by Brexit you can't say is caused by Brexit? Are you very brown and stupid?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ireland is an ant to the UK, it could squish it if it wants.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your attitude is adorably naive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keep coping. The UK already defends the ROI, invading it would be a piece of cake.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NAYRT, but Brexit didn't do anything to the UK.
            > frick huge recession caused by Brexit
            the one starting in 2020, that totally couldn't have been caused by anything whatsoever that happened around that time, and totally didn't affect France, Germany, and the rest of Europe (not to mention the world) to about the same degree as well

            idiot

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It's just not going to happen since both sides have nothing to gain, the only reason Ireland isn't taken over at this point is the UK doesn't actually want or need it to be taken
              Have of the UK would cease to exist within a year if the UK attacked Ireland, you have absolutely no idea just how bad that would get for the UK. That kind of delusion is common with Brexit types though? How are all your global trade agreements going? All cozy with your frick huge recession caused by Brexit you can't say is caused by Brexit? Are you very brown and stupid?

              >All cozy with your frick huge recession caused by Brexit you can't say is caused by Brexit? Are you very brown and stupid?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >France's recession was caused by Brexit
                awesome

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dirty peaceloving moderate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I say this with the absolute most respect for you and your protestant ancestors, but I think I would have made a really good soldier in the Irish Republican Army. I would probably say that your ancestors probably don't even disapprove of the IRA and what they did as much as I do. My point is that I probably would have been some sort of elite shock troop, special forces, Sinn Fein's special forces. I think I would have been McGuinness's top guy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        t.Bostonite

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't even know what the frick you mean by the IRA which have been nothing but a cancer here for a century, the army became the states under Collins

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Charles would be dead within the same week if you tried this. London would be flattened

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Bro Moscow will be flattened if they invade Ukraine
        No, London wouldn't flattened moron.
        >Charles would be dead within the same week if you tried this.
        As would whatever world leader ordered the hit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          *be

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ● Keep the SOF reforms*

    ● Go sicko-mode on ships, USVs, and MARINT

    ● Obtain enough airframes to be self-reliant in basic needs. Fighters etc. are neva gonna happen, obviously, but even asw + mpa + transport fleets require some mass.

    ● Embrace the demography of >native pop: smol, diaspora: xbox hueg. Create a legion. Plagiarize extensively from the baltic and nordic models. On the analytical and miltech end of the spectrum, look to the dutch and the danes.

    ● Establish permanent patrol routes in and around the irish EEZ. Use nuclear powered uncrewed vessels for the legwork, or sodium if nuke=too icky for the domestic politics. Invest in means of constantly, but deniably, fricking with hostile russian and chinese fleets in the vicinity until they can't bear to deploy to the northeast atlantic anymore.

    ● Send SOF everywhere b***hmade peacekeepers are currently pulling out. Good example as of this month is the chinese withdrawing from the DRC.

    ● Deal with the 'european super-cartel' problems in part via spending decisions that force latam and the UAE to unfrick their attitudes.

    ● Establish a frogman corps but it's bogmen, because eco-soldiers who kill in the name of preserving peatlands is funny.

    * https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60562843

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're focusing too much on trying to integrate Ireland with NATO when they'd be better as a true neutral (not switzerland being defacto NATO but still "neutral" and being a mediator between eastern and western countries, they already have the politics for it being anti-Israel, and could softer touch handle peacekeeping issues with an actual competent force in Africa, the middle east, etc. They also have an advantage of having permanent good relations with the UK, because neither side can afford to cut the other off (especially if they had a competent military, they can't be threatened with being left defenceless), which means they can cut deals, and talk to countries like Iraq, possibly giving them a chance to deploy and help with COIN duties, which would also fill in a gap left by the Americans in very particular situations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Superbly thoughtful take, anon. What's this business about sodium-powered ships, tho?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        New nuclear vessels, especially small ones, should be aiming for MSR rather than PWR.

        Failing that, your best energy density is going to come either from lithium or sodium based battery & hydrogen approaches.

        Probably the only non-moronic post in the thread [...] was close until he got to the bogmen Eco soldiers

        ecofascist peat warriors issa joke

        You're focusing too much on trying to integrate Ireland with NATO when they'd be better as a true neutral (not switzerland being defacto NATO but still "neutral" and being a mediator between eastern and western countries, they already have the politics for it being anti-Israel, and could softer touch handle peacekeeping issues with an actual competent force in Africa, the middle east, etc. They also have an advantage of having permanent good relations with the UK, because neither side can afford to cut the other off (especially if they had a competent military, they can't be threatened with being left defenceless), which means they can cut deals, and talk to countries like Iraq, possibly giving them a chance to deploy and help with COIN duties, which would also fill in a gap left by the Americans in very particular situations.

        Their geography alone dictates that they cannot be true neutral. Integration with NATO and the UK more specifically was always inevitable. The fact that nobody ever talks about is a testament to how well the information has been suppressed over time.

        Choosing to take a combative stance toward russian and chinese belligerence at sea is, of course, completely optional. But they should have the capability to do so, on some level.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    -airshit lbe, not even joking, it will probably be fine
    -adidas trainers and tracksuits made with NIR MULTICAM™ fabric
    -dual tube nods
    -lvl 4 plates
    -ballistic helmets with ear coverage, no fast cuts
    -308 rifles of some kind, with lvpos and thermal clip ons
    -casio f91 watches
    -ultralight 3day packs that are made from a higher denier nylon that can resist wear and tear better
    -keep the tried and tested mil sleeping systems
    -throw out the mess kit and go full civ
    -modern ifaks that are segregated/sorted for usage
    -baofeng radios, i want the enemy to hear us as we taunt them and overtake their positions

    who wants to prompt ai?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Brand new boots and they are already falling apart lmao

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A leprechaun mascot per regiment, seven hundred púca to act as gremlins, and a banshee per brigade to scare the enemy shitless. Oh, and 750 mL of whiskey per soldier per week.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10 fertile red heads with fat breasts and bumble gum pink pussies, the Guiness recipe, and a crate of AR-18s. Having procured everything the otherwise worthless rock is good for, I nuke it.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you buy?
    I just dump the whole thing into a local arms company that I found at the same time. Waste a bunch of money on a domestic copy of the HK416 and claim it's necessary so that we're not reliant on a foreign nation for our defense. Put the rest of the money into developing drones.

    Rest safe in the knowledge that our military is literally entirely useless, if the British want to invade, for real, nothing will stop them short of American intervention. Nobody else can invade without first subjugating the UK, which is entirely impossible. Unless it's the US for whatever reason, in which case yet again resistance is futile so planning for it is pointless.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nukes. Then I pretend that I don't have them (even though everyone knows and they know I know they know) and let it quietly be known that if NATO doesn't protect my borders, those nukes are aimed at all of their capitals.

    After that I'd probably start genociding the gingers, and demand that the US send troops and ammo to help me murder civilian aid workers, and call them antihibernian bigots if they refuse.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    drone controlled carbombs
    fpv carbombs
    fpv commercial plane bombs

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    After watching what happened to Ukraine, definitely not buying anything American or German.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who would you be buying from?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The french of course, only reliable ally

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's into cheap chink knockoffs.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >make service rifle 5.56x45 AK or 12.5 inch ar 18 or 15

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      5.56x45 AK and 7.62x54r AR10.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I steal all the money and frick off to Turkmenistan

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a ticket out of ireland

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Taking a look at it, 10 billion isn't enough to save the Irish military I'm afraid. Their not even on the level of a SEA country or Moldova, WTF Ireland.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > buy all the Taurus Wunderwaffen from Germany
    > glass Belfast, London and Balmoral
    > lean back and enjoy

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd make it compulsory everyone with 20 acres or more born in Ireland owns a scoped 270 and 100 rounds and in the military
    radars
    anti ship drones and missiles
    drones
    highly mobile 155mm artillery and ammunition carriers
    a mountain of javelins in dispersed storage
    s mountain of stingers in dispersed storage
    6 f35s anti ship and AA as well as cluster munitions
    6 search and rescue helicopters than can also drop anti sub bouys and munitions
    A government grant and IDA like support for making sea drones here and exporting them
    two factories making 270, 556, 50 bmg ammunition

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd make it compulsory everyone with 20 acres or more born in Ireland owns a scoped 270 and 100 rounds and in the military
      bring back the pre ww1 Irish volunteers basically

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    half the money on planes and the other half on the relevant infrastructure, fuel and ammo

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >spend the first billion on whiskey
    >hand it out free
    >everyone in Ireland too drunk to notice I run off with the other 9

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Merge Irish Defence with UK Defence
    >Give UK 5bn a year to put up with Irish turbo bants and diesel theft

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you buy
    crude oil
    turn the entire island into an oil reserve

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >plates for everyone (seriously how are plates not standard issue)
    >Chinkmaxx everything else because their stuff is cheap (vt4/jf17/APCS/IADS/etc)
    >USVs
    >Stockpile basic munitions, ATGMs, manpads, etc
    >Do this over years because it's expensive
    >Deploy to even more UN missions to justify the increase in spending
    >Use build up to separate foreign policy more from NATO, try to build as a mediation between 1st/3rd world states.
    >Realise it's a waste of money and be fired in a scandal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the only non-moronic post in the thread

      ● Keep the SOF reforms*

      ● Go sicko-mode on ships, USVs, and MARINT

      ● Obtain enough airframes to be self-reliant in basic needs. Fighters etc. are neva gonna happen, obviously, but even asw + mpa + transport fleets require some mass.

      ● Embrace the demography of >native pop: smol, diaspora: xbox hueg. Create a legion. Plagiarize extensively from the baltic and nordic models. On the analytical and miltech end of the spectrum, look to the dutch and the danes.

      ● Establish permanent patrol routes in and around the irish EEZ. Use nuclear powered uncrewed vessels for the legwork, or sodium if nuke=too icky for the domestic politics. Invest in means of constantly, but deniably, fricking with hostile russian and chinese fleets in the vicinity until they can't bear to deploy to the northeast atlantic anymore.

      ● Send SOF everywhere b***hmade peacekeepers are currently pulling out. Good example as of this month is the chinese withdrawing from the DRC.

      ● Deal with the 'european super-cartel' problems in part via spending decisions that force latam and the UAE to unfrick their attitudes.

      ● Establish a frogman corps but it's bogmen, because eco-soldiers who kill in the name of preserving peatlands is funny.

      * https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60562843

      was close until he got to the bogmen Eco soldiers

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shot the Irish use AUGs? Why? Why wouldn't you just use m4s?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why wouldn't you just use AUGs?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Personally I would issue SMLEs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Holy shot the Irish use AUGs? Why?
      Neutral country and EU supplier Austria.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Use the money to import enough Israelis and israelites that America will foot the bill for a trillion dollar per year refit

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd liquidate, you don't need a modern army to defend a tax shelter

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I spend it all on yachts, prostitutes and helicopter rides over Belfast during which I pee out the helicopter because we exist 100% under the British and NATO umbrella of protection and there's zero possibility of that ever changing.
    What Nigel gonna do, let Russia overrun us? Hahahaha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What Nigel gonna do
      Not matter a frick when it comes to defending anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >RT image
        >Not matter a frick
        Lol
        Lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You mentioned nigel and there he was. Like magic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's not me. I meant Nigel as in a generic term for sassas, not the washed up treasonous c**t licking Putin's arsehole for scraps.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    5 Billion worth of Honda Civics
    5 Billion worth of explosives

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >3x P8A poseideon $500m
    >5x T26 ASW frigates $5bn
    >2x A330 mrtt $700m
    >10x AW101 asw $400m
    >2x E7 wedgetail $1bn
    >3x A400M $500m
    >10x Fast Jets $1bn
    >Spend the rest on Infastructure to support the above and recruitment

    The best way to defend Ireland is to free up the British forces already in that role.

    The biggest threat to Ireland are Russian submarines, they sit around the cables/outside ports or in the Irish sea hoping to follow the RN subs leaving/entering UK naval bases. A strong ASW package would fit that well.
    Second the Bear bombers that frequent the Airspace. Its time the Irish got some fast jets with tankers and a decent EW/ISR plane.
    To further save money you could buy the Tranche 1 EFs the UK are getting rid of, im sure they would even let you base them from RAF air fields in the meantime.

    Ireland would be in a decent position to buy most of that stuff at good rates from the British and the US too, maybe some diesel subs in the future if it all goes well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >To further save money you could buy the Tranche 1 EFs the UK are getting rid of, im sure they would even let you base them from RAF air fields in the meantime.
      >buying outdated Eurofighters
      >when you could buy JF-17s or J-10CE for a similar price or cheaper

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Chinkshit is pretty much closed off to every euro country that isnt Serbia, Albania, or Belarus.
        Ireland historically got supplied by other neutrals like Austria and Sweden, then by NATO countries like US, Belgium, France, UK, Germany.
        They would not be able to procure Russian or Chinese gear unless it was surplus from an eastern euro NATO member - but all that shit has gone to ukraine anyway.
        They also missed out BIG time in the great cold war equipment sell off due to a pitiful budget.

        Irish anon here, Ireland has some towed 1970s Brit 105mm arty; could we donate what we have to Ukraine and replace them with 155mm self-propelled arty? Ireland has good road networks and any foreign UN adventure will likely be involved working with France in the flat arid Sahel; so maybe Caesars or Israeli stuff?

        The L118's and L119 light guns aren't going anywhere, they fit alarmingly well with their doctrine of a light reaction force that sometimes goes overseas to do peacekeeping well.

        If they go for a 155mm gun, it should be wheeled self propelled - they are too fricking strapped for tracks and their maintenance. The French/Polish/Swedish wheeled SP guns are right up their alley.

        https://i.imgur.com/nSPeZQj.jpg

        >3x P8A poseideon $500m
        >5x T26 ASW frigates $5bn
        >2x A330 mrtt $700m
        >10x AW101 asw $400m
        >2x E7 wedgetail $1bn
        >3x A400M $500m
        >10x Fast Jets $1bn
        >Spend the rest on Infastructure to support the above and recruitment

        The best way to defend Ireland is to free up the British forces already in that role.

        The biggest threat to Ireland are Russian submarines, they sit around the cables/outside ports or in the Irish sea hoping to follow the RN subs leaving/entering UK naval bases. A strong ASW package would fit that well.
        Second the Bear bombers that frequent the Airspace. Its time the Irish got some fast jets with tankers and a decent EW/ISR plane.
        To further save money you could buy the Tranche 1 EFs the UK are getting rid of, im sure they would even let you base them from RAF air fields in the meantime.

        Ireland would be in a decent position to buy most of that stuff at good rates from the British and the US too, maybe some diesel subs in the future if it all goes well.

        Honestly it's fricking dogshit they haven't at least adopted an armed advanced jet trainer for light CAP/CAS - capable of AIM-9 & AMRAAM as well as hurling rockets and some lighter PGM's.
        They used to have some Fouga Magisters up until the 90's

        You're focusing too much on trying to integrate Ireland with NATO when they'd be better as a true neutral (not switzerland being defacto NATO but still "neutral" and being a mediator between eastern and western countries, they already have the politics for it being anti-Israel, and could softer touch handle peacekeeping issues with an actual competent force in Africa, the middle east, etc. They also have an advantage of having permanent good relations with the UK, because neither side can afford to cut the other off (especially if they had a competent military, they can't be threatened with being left defenceless), which means they can cut deals, and talk to countries like Iraq, possibly giving them a chance to deploy and help with COIN duties, which would also fill in a gap left by the Americans in very particular situations.

        Ireland would have been better off going the NATO only route and bucking the EU trend.
        As it stands they voted against EU integration twice, but they kept ramming it down their throats until it passed

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >armed advanced jet trainer for light CAP/CAS - capable of AIM-9 & AMRAAM as well as hurling rockets and some lighter PGM's.
          what, like the FA-50?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Ireland would have been better off going the NATO only route and bucking the EU trend.
          being in nato has no benefit to them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Buys chinkshit, gets barred from all UK airfields
        >Cant use UK spares
        >0 commonality with UK airframes/tankers etc
        Fricking moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This ia the best option, help supliment the Brits while still having a neutral stance and a pretty huge capability boost.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke Israel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      would you lefty ragheads ever frick off with your bullshit you're not wanted here and I don't give a frick if the Israelis drop bombs on gaza for the next century as long as no ragheads come here

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Barbed wire to build concentration camps so nignog invaders can be housed before deportation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >concentration camps
      A bit dramatic, I prefer 'detainment zones', 'processing locations', 'transit hubs' , 'resource dispatch waypoints', 'embarkation slipstreaming parks' etc etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I will vote for you anon you're better at this than I'll ever be.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was going to type an in-depth response. Buy T31s, P-8's, F35A's, Boxers etc but honestly it doesn't matter. Even if the ROI got this money the Irish public would be outraged if it actually went on defending themselves. They are happy to outsource their defence to the UK.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For this thread to work I probably need to be Irish, so:
    $2b per year to the west as tithe to the EU to keep being their b***h and hope they protect me if there's a war.
    $8b per year to the east as illegal tax breaks to Apple and other US companies and rich people to keep being their b***h and hope they protect me if there's a war.

    There: I solved Ireland's defence problem, and it only cost $10b per year and every shred of national pride (ie it only cost $10b a year).

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Patria AMVs. I struggle to conceive of the Irish needing much in the way of heavy mechanized forces. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but my minds' eye doesn't picture the Emerald Isle as conducive to armored warfare.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Irish anon here, Ireland has some towed 1970s Brit 105mm arty; could we donate what we have to Ukraine and replace them with 155mm self-propelled arty? Ireland has good road networks and any foreign UN adventure will likely be involved working with France in the flat arid Sahel; so maybe Caesars or Israeli stuff?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hasn't Dublin been trying hard to paint itself as a Brussels / Zurich-like neutral haven?
      totally unrealistic of course but that's what they've been going for

  39. 1 month ago
    Sieg

    Buy the lads some rum and hookers show them what modern day military corruption is like

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    jameson

    The frick are the Irish DF needed for?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Expelling the British

      hasn't Dublin been trying hard to paint itself as a Brussels / Zurich-like neutral haven?
      totally unrealistic of course but that's what they've been going for

      Somewhat, they have been neutral through most major conflicts but that’s mostly out of hope that Britain gets fricked but an inability to do it themselves

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    potato guns and pocket the change

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spend all that money to deport all illegals and pajeets.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Come on guys, it was too obvious
    Every new piston rifle is just an ar18 anyway

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Training and equipment to bust down every synagogue in Britain.
    Ireland will be free at that point

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I spend $7 billion making sure that every single person in the country owns a concealable firearm and a long(ish) range firearm. Judging by what Sig is charging the US Army, I'm guessing I could get a P365 and .308 Cross together for $1000. The other $3 billion goes to training the populace in insurgency and guerilla tactics, and organizing systems and strategies to resist foreign invasion. With a 7 million-strong militia trained to make life hell for any invader and no capacity for power projection, no one will ever bother attacking the island.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What does it matter when they're ethnically cleansing themselves faster than Canada is?

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how many years is my horizon? I want 20 before the next engagement.

    1. use the current military to deport everyone who isn't ethnically Irish. allow a small number of experts and high value individuals to stay with extreme taxation and restrictions.

    2. ban birth control and immigration. incentivise having Irish children.

    3. offer loyal soldiers with potential to be mercenaries to gain combat experience on the side of nato without committing

    4. establish youth corps to create a base of fanatical and physically fit recruits

    5. tax tech companies and other multinationals who are currently exploiting Ireland

    6. create a false flag incident blaming Islamic terrorists from London to gain international support for closing the borders with the United Kingdom

    7. engage in a terrorism campaign focused on souring relations between Scotland and England. target churches, media facilities and schools.

    8. bomb military sites, bridges and ports in Northern Ireland.

    9. have a "civilian militia" formed of your grown fanatical youth occupy Northern Ireland under the auspices of protecting the population. Arm them with technicals, drones, manpads and ieds.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A purpose.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One of the bigger commitments that Ireland actually has in practice, besides UN peacekeeping and where it might be lacking is managing it's maritime zone.
    There was big drama recently with the Russians snooping around the undersea Atlantic internet cables inside Irish waters.

    Having the ability to deter that without necessarily relying on NATO or specifically the British, would be useful for maintaining sovereignty and preventing attempts at coercion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Article 3 of NATO is that you can defend yourself. Which is to say it's just good advice for everyone.

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