Putin is expected to address the nation again on the 30th of September, allegedly to annouce the annexation of East Ukraine to Russia. There are also rumors that say he'll declare war to Ukraine as well and I honeslty expect that to happen, not then necessarily but soon anyway. After that, NATO won't have any choice but to get involved. Those billions sent in aid packages are not a gift, they will have to be paid back one way or another and the "we have to defend muh democracy" is the pretext on which we'll get drafted. What gives:
> History shows us that partial mobilizations have always been the precursors to full mobilizations, no exeptions
> The most recent Lavrov's speech about muh russophobia and the EU not being capable of talks, followed by "we won't be the first to open up"
> It just doesn't make any sense to declare martial law and recruit 1.000.000 people just to defend a patch of land, when it took only 150.000 to just conquer it
> What is the best time to invade your enemy if not in the winter, when they are freezing because of the high energy costs and the morale is low as hell?
> You can send as many weapons and war machines as you want, if Ukraine has no more men left to handle them, what's the point?
What do you think, /misc/? Are there pther point I missed or are the ones I listed above bullshit?
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Based. Although if WW3 breaks out I think it will be a nuclear exchange, rather than an old school WW2 style combat.
Wrong, my Turkish fren.
It'll be conventional first because no one wants to be nuked. If Putin used a tactical nuke in Ukraine, NATO would begin airstrikes on the annexed regions and Russian troops in Ukraine.
Conventional bombing campaign could precede a WMD one. I don't think we will ever see US troops fighting Russian troops.
You mean ever again?
It already happened in Vietnam and WW2
Nah Black person, it didn't happen in vietnam or korea. Soviets barely sent any troops to vietnam. In korea it was only air combat between us and russia.
I'm talking about a Germany vs USA style war as in ww1 or ww2. Not talking about a bunch of rednecks from the deep south volunteering to fight in Ukraine.
They sent thousands of specialists to vietnam not just pilots but tank crews, missile crew and AA gunners
Friendly fire incident in Yugoslavia that turned into a battle
oh right
soviets had like a less than hundred soldiers killed in vietnam, us had like 60 thousand
at what point did the US face the Russians during WW2?
It already happened in Africa, although it wasn’t the official Russian army but Vagner. The vatniks got absolutely BTFOed
I don't think we'll go nuclear but moabs and foabs will be dropped.
This is a point that I often see people miss because of how the nedia twists the word to generate panic. Nuclear warhead that bring the end of the world will never be used, you don't have to worry. Whenever "nuclear arsenal" is mentioned, it really just refers to tactical nukes which are not a gatekeep to the world to go at war
Zelensky should stop calling the referendums shams and just let the eastern oblasts leave in peace.
He is hellbent on prolonging this war, not Putin
>He is hellbent on prolonging this war
That's the point
He's just playing the script he was given
>Partial mobilisations have always been the precursor to full mobilisations
Is this true? There are no examples of just partial mobilisation?
None. Especially in WW2. Which is why I am concerned.
There is also no such thing as "partial mobilization" in any nation. No such thing was mentioned in the new law Russia passed on 20 September, it is only what Putin called it in his speech (probably not to panic the general public).
>It just doesn't make any sense to declare martial law and recruit 1.000.000 people just to defend a patch of land, when it took only 150.000 to just conquer it
its almost as if there wasn't only 150k used
just go and join russia already... your life has literally less worth than 2 liters of cooking oil, just stop being so damn difficult, just go and become a russian slave, k thanks.
stop making my money lose value!
Never, i'd rather die than allow russians to walk freely on my land.
I do agree anon, it does feel like ww3 is brewing. check my d i g i t s frens because it's happening
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Crisis evaded
WW3 won't start, neither side wants it and both are terrified of the results. It would turn nuclear and there's no winners in that situation.
>neither side wants it
yet neither side is backing down.
Russia will probably use tactical nukes if they stalemate or loose ground again; if the situation become desperate. If Russia uses tactical nukes, NATO will likely at minimum respond with some sort of "limited" response to "send a message" such as sinking some ships, air strikes on where ever the nukes were shot from, no fly zone, or something along those lines. This will likely lead to a chain reaction of "sending messages" back and forth within a very short time leading to full nuclear exchange. Russia cannot loose the war because it will likely lead to the break up of Russia. NATO will not back down because of it's hubris, the money that Ukraine now owes NATO for weapons, and unwillingness to negotiate. If one side backs down or Russia steamrolls Ukraine because of this mobilization (which is what I hope happens) we can avert war, but if neither side backs down and the war continues to drag on, we will see a full nuclear exchange because neither side will back down causing more escalation until we destroy each other. No one wins in a nuclear war, but whoever shoots first (and I mean full commitment, launching everything) will likely have the least casualties and both sides know this. Europe will likely be a pile of ash and Russia and US will be devastated.
Because tensions are so high, there is also a chance of someone making a big oopsie, and an all out war starts with a simple mistake or misunderstanding. The longer this goes on, the more probable a mistake will happen.
I fully expect to see a full nuclear exchange between NATO and Russia in less than a year, maybe even less than 6 months. Let's hope one side backs down or Russia steamrolls Ukraine and puts an end to this nonsense.
Do you even know what a tactical nuke is you fricking moron, you keep spamming that group of words daily like you're getting off to it. What the frick is the difference between a regular nuke and a tactical one? Nobody is gonna use shit, just shut the frick up already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_nuclear_weapon
meds, take them
do YOU know what a tactical nuke is? their yield isn't that high. most won't even match that "fertilizer" explosion of yesteryear.
actually, do you know what a nuke is? there isn't anything scary about using one. it won't lead to an all out nuclear war if used on a literal who patch of land, whatever you got fed in school and media was only concerning strikes between nuclear powers that can quickly escalate. ukraine has nothing to respond with and if you think nato is going in a full war with russia over it you're delusional.
>The W54 (also known as the Mark 54 or B54) was a tactical nuclear warhead developed by the United States in the late 1950s.
>The weapon is notable for being the smallest nuclear weapon in both size and yield to have entered US service.
>In its various versions and mods it had a yield of 10 to 1,000 tons of TNT
I dunno, 10 tons TNT absolute minimum is still a pretty big bang by conventional standards.
whats the deal with tactically nukes? I mean whats so tactical about blowing your foe up with a giant bomb! Me getting my house fumigated to avoid the parents coming over is more tactical then these bombs.
It's the same principal. You irradiate a combat sector to avoid the enemy coming over.
Wrong
or you can just send Black folk instead
Tactical nukes are meme-sizes nukes like you get in Fallout 3 or TF2. They're pretty kino
My whole point is for you homosexuals to shut the frick up about ww3 and nukes and whatever the frick, it's been 7 fricking months, give it a fricking rest, it's not happening. Frick's sake.
Hiding your head in the sand won't make it go away. You'd be a fool to think WW2 has been the last global conflict to ever take place again. 100 years ago they used to call WW1 the war to end all wars. The only reason nations go to war is to profit and considering the current state if the economy, it's not that hard of a decision. Untimately, if we ever go to war, the only ones responsible will be all the black death masktards from 2020 that had to virtue signal, the economy is in imthe state it is because they welcomed the lockdowns instead of opposing them.
Yeah bro, 2 more weeks, we're gonna spam the board every time either Putin or Biden farts. Just frick off and stay in your containment threads already, we have enough problems with glowBlack folk making bait threads, we don't need 5+ non serious schizo threads at a time too.
OY VEY
conflict doesn't make sense when it ramps up to beyond what can be sustained for life thereafter and that's the point it's at now, if you go to war and the land you live on and can move to would no longer be habitable in not just the worst case scenario, but as a result of most damage weapons can cause there is no longer a reason to go to war
I had 3 strokes reading this, Pedro. Learn English next time you cross the border.
>WW3 won't start, neither side wants it
If you can think of a better way for the Great Reset to get Resat, I'd like to hear it
>What is the best time to invade your enemy if not in the winter
Yes, and historically the Soviets launched a lot of their offensives in the dead of winter.
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As much as the politicians and MIC want a war they simply don't have the support of the people. Not even blacks or Hispanics support sending all our money to Ukraine, they're all b***hing that THEY should be getting that money in the form of more stimulus checks.
In the least edgy way possible, I don't give a shit. Im sitting here, imagining it, the loud ass alerts on my phone, the cute girl I hooked up with the other day that might turn into something, the devastation, the agony. everyone Ive ever known, my dog, me, all dead or dying. I don't care, do it. Just hit israel first.
If Russia couldn't even take on Ukraine without having massive difficulties, what makes them think they could take on NATO? Conventionally? no way. Why even bother conscripting people if its just gonna be a nuke fight anyways
>Hur dur it won't start get a grip
>Says while world markets are collapsing and Putin is literarily a national school shooter
I'm going to frick all the young girls after you little shits get drafted.
>WW3 will start by
Two more weeks lad you should know this by now.
>Winter is the best time to invade Ukraine!
Bros... Should we tell him?
Can someone tell me what's really going to happen???
Where will the world be 5-10 years from now???
After referendums next step will be US give Ukraine the 300km range himars with thousands of rounds of ammo and blessing to hit targets in Russia.
This will cause Russia to try and use tactical nukes. CIA need to quickly confirm if Russian tactical nukes work, I suspect not.
Russian Mobilisation is a psyop distraction and will not generate any combat power for months, if ever.
Yeah shit's going down.
THEY CAN'T EVEN DEFEAT A THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE IN A PROXY WAR AND HAVE TO ROUND UP THE REMAINING YOUNG MEN IN THE COUNTRY TO RETAKE LAND THEY LOST IN 3 DAYS HOW THE FRICK DO YOU THINK THEY WILL FARE AGAINST FRICKING NATO WITH THEIR IMMENSE POWER PROJECTION THAT PUTIN WOULD SUCK OVER 9000 wienerS TO ATTAIN
THEY WILL BE FLATTENED IN A SINGLE DAY HOLY SHIT AHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
IT'S NOT GONNA BE WW3, IT'S GONNA BE THE MUTTARMY b***hSLAPPING DRUNK moronic SLAVMUTTS
I HAVE LOST MY SIDES AS I TYPE THIS