WTF is up with the chinese

>The Chinese government says it plans to build a "modern military" by 2035 and a "world class miltary" by 2049

They have 40% of the US' military budget (Which gives them a roughly equivalent procurement capability. When you take into account the extreme costs of US global presence and power projection, the fact that China can manufacture quicker for cheaper and that the Chinese average salary is 4 times lower).

So why the fuck is it taking them so long PrepHole?
I heard that they are spending the majority of their budget on missiles and asymetric capabilities but that should still leave them more than enough to fund a "modern and world class" conventional military in a lot less time.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    their real budget with internal police is easily 90% of US military budget and they only have

    69 "stealth" jets
    less heavy ships than the USA
    limited logistics still

    wonder where all the money went

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Murican police budget is also around 300 billion combined taking it into account is quite meaningless

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your armed police is not the same as US police and you know it. There is yet another budget for the normal police in china

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The PAP is just the equivalent of a gendarmerie in europe or the federal authorities in America, most of their budget goes to salaries of the personel and light vehicles and weapons, it's not an actual military.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xi has stacked the CCP with "Loyalists" as opposed to appointments based on merit.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Going slow is the smart move.
    As we see in Ukraine, shit like the HIMARS is incredibly effective and requires that any would be modern military replicate them and then find a way to beat them afterwards. If the Chinese try and rush to claiming modernity without replicating equipment like that, they're fucking themselves over like the Russians have.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good luck with that, all the money's already gone to corruption

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone likes to point out how awful Russia is at anything military even while it tries to pretend it's on par with the US. What people forget is that China is in the same boat. China's military history is hilariously awful, with their only significant victories occurring when westerners were advising them or outright fully taking command of their armies. Couple that with the inevitable nepotism and corruption that a dictatorship fosters, and you pretty much have a slightly more wealthy Russia copycat with the same low-quality soldiers that make any edge in equipment worthless in the field.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the fact that China can manufacture quicker for cheaper and that the Chinese average salary is 4 times lower).
    The cost of military equipment for China isn't any lower. The is more or less as expensive as an F-22 without their definitive engines.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > The is more or less
      The J-20 is more or less

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>The Chinese government says it plans to build a "modern military" by 2035 and a "world class miltary" by 2049
    Two more decades trust the pran

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Average Chinese salary is lower, but average US production is more efficient and far more advanced. Building pig iron pans is more economical in china, modern fighter jets not so much. Further, a large part of the Chinese budget goes to their 2 million active service personell and other quasi military institutions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the fact that China can manufacture quicker for cheaper and that the Chinese average salary is 4 times lower).
      The cost of military equipment for China isn't any lower. The is more or less as expensive as an F-22 without their definitive engines.

      If there is one thing I know about China is that they are simply the best at building things once they gain the necessary experience.

      While J20 procurement was rough at the beginning it is currently much quicker to produce and cheaper than an f35, the same is happening for their WS15 engine.

      While the J20 is worse than the f35 in every regard, not so sure that will be the case for the next gen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cheaper than an f35
        Lmao, the marginal cost of the J-20 is fairly higher, nowadays the F-35 is a cheap bastard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its a separate budget

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CCP always creates these big goals and sets dates for them.
    They never reach the goal and just declare it a succes anyway.
    Same with how the "fixed" hunger and poverty in china, they just lowered the requirments for what defines being poor in china to such low levels that statisticly there were no more poor people in china.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >statisticly
      statistically*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >statisticly
      statistically*

      They didn't reduce their standards for poverty, said standars were very low in the firts place

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >note
      Hahaha what a bunch of fags

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're no better than Russia when it comes to the corruption and bureaucracy department. They build things for the sake of fulfilling quotas, meeting demands from higher up. Things are made for this reason- not out of a deep understanding or desire for the strategic need. It's top down party politics at it's finest, and nobody actually cares about whether shit works or if it's what they need, it's about meeting the goals from up top while lining their own pockets.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2049

    Cool, we'll all be dying from the effects of global warming by then. Hope they have fun squabbling over the final remaining remnants of the human race before we're all gone lol, lmao even

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >effects of global warming

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go back to PrepHole and kys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1950s "we're going to be frozen by the 70s!!"
      >1970s "we're going to run out of oil by the 90s!!"
      >1990s "we're going to be underwater by the 20s!!"
      >2020s "we're going to be in a global breakdown from climate change by the 40s!!"
      >2040s "we're going to be [insert nonsense here] by the 60s!!"

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    China's military budget is far larger than it leads on. They count it differently than the US does.
    China doesn't count the military's healthcare costs or their coast guard among other things as part of the defense budget.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the US, we take a $1 component and contract it out for $10, but the component gets built and delivered.
    In China, they take a $1 component, cost-cut until it's a 50¢ component, order 3000 of them, waste $1000 of the order on bribes, and end up with 3000 lookalikes that don't do anything they were designed to because phenphen isn't actually an engineer just a sewer-oil-eating drone.

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