Saw in an old thread regarding nukes that 2 anons got into a bitch fight about technical shit (I did not care too much about as I was looking at the old ICBM launch photos being posted). One of them called the other a newfag and not knowing shit about the "Zapper", alongside a photo of a red streak in a night sky. He did not really elaborate on it much and instead just bringing it up as a supposed slam dunk to the other guys lack of knowledge. Can anyone give me a summary of what this thing is supposedly about?
probably a test rig for hardening electrical equipment against nuclear EMP like Kirkland AFB that started a whole UFO movement influenced by the USAF to keep the actual purpose
the USAF in the 80s riled up a schizo so badly he never mentally recovered just to misdirect people about the EMP test rig. It's pretty grim
Shit I think I know about that story regarding the guy. If I recall correctly he was made to think there was some ayys/deepstate alliance with a secret military installation in one of the local mountains in the area. Fucked up stuff. But you have gave me another topic to research now with EMP testing electronic equipment.
Paul Bennewitz
Thats the guy!
>He doesn't know about the Zapper
>O-Oh yeah! Why don't you prove that you know about that zap-sappy thingy mejiggy? 🙁
A name for a hypothetical classified weapon system capable of delivering bursts of positrons to targets at ranges of 10,000km or greater, using a phase conjugate array and supercooled metal gases and exploiting arcane physical effects first worked on by Zel'dovich in the 80s. If you dig into academic works dealing with phase conjugation or that name you'll start to see a lot of references to research funded or conducted by the DoD. There was also a somewhat related set of Fark posts in the early 00s by a dude named Erewhon/Bedlam/Tom Bedlam about a similar topic that (supposedly) got him in hot water with the DIA, pic related.
Is any of it real? Idk prolly not but it's more fun to believe it is.
>phase conjugation
This seems like extreme fringe shit, up my alley though
i had to hit up encyclopedia britannica bro
Ngl, soundsl ike a Golden era sci fi stuff, like the main armament for the Empires Dreadnaught and all that.
There is far too much real scientific evidence that the polariton laser driven laser portion of it. Whether you can get it into the gamma regimen and above the critical field limit is the real "idk". If you actually read the papers by Dutton, Hau, Ketterle, and LiJun Wang though, pulse compression and "matter wave amplification" is mentioned off-handedly several times.
*Polariton driven laser
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaser
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton_laser
>A name for a hypothetical classified weapon system capable of delivering bursts of positrons
Correct to that point, later not so much.
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Schizobabble
I took five ibuprofen and now I'm filling chill man. Like zero pain or tension in my body, and like a nice smooth high mixed with a light buzz. Why don't I do this all the time man.
>five ibuprofen
You are going to suffocate my man
Well then I wouldn't have to take anymore because all my pain would be done for good. I'm not that lucky. Whatever horrible God made this shitty earth probably wants to kick me around some more.
Dude I think you need help 🙁
at least he isn't on heroin yet
That's really bad for your gut lining.
Using Kerr black holes to achieve time travel, to relay times dates and locations of nuclear launches and operators. Part of CERNS domination of the world during the Third World War of the Alpha Attractor Field.
Fuck off chuuni, take your delusions somewhere else.
I see our friends from PrepHole have questions. It's a polariton driven gamma ray laser.
It's still up, and I have a new name to add to the list.
Zachary Dutton with Raytheon.
What’s crazy I that I know someone whom works w lazers at redacted and I’m kinda an autodidact and this thread plus the thread on k plus my own knowlage of how light and photons work this just blew my mind and understand if the world at a fundamental level and now I have trouble looking at my girlfriend the same way like she will never know what I know wtf op fuck u
Why did you double post this on PrepHole?
Because you stupid glownaggers just changed my entire perception of reality down to how israelites describe souls as shards of light. Jfc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Dutton
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=W4pOb5cAAAAJ&hl=en
He's the one of the co-authors on most of Lene Hau's papers, which were funded at Harvard by the AFRL, NRL, ARL, and DARPA.
https://sys.PrepHole.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F0GeIImbZpCo%3Fsi%3Di69Bwp-Clz67IP4X
>Maaaan that's some weird shit
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This is an interview with Dave anda new photo from 2015 that is much more "dramatic"
And here's the schizo's website from the YouTube video. Yes, he is definitely a UFO schizo, but he definitely experienced something. The effects on their film, health, and the description of what they saw is telling. Also, other people saw it. There are reports in the local paper from 2002-2004, and the local Fox Affiliate even interviewed him. They actually called UTTR, which in turn confirmed there was a test, but just not of what.
http://www.aliendave.com/Photos_Skywatch_UTTR_72204.html
Ok so to clarify and summarise this entire thread to a layman such as myself, a weird beam of light occoured in the early 2000s which was caught on photo. No one knew what it was but the few that saw it in person say they felt weird. A guy went schizo and went around spouting ufo stuff which got more eyes on the incident. People then found out that there was research on high-powered lasers which trace back to some ruskie in the soviet union. They then find out that the research has DOD backing which gets them to put two and two together that the beam of light could have been a test for one of these theoretical laser designs. There is no evidence but it is a compelling theory. On the other hand people believe its just an electro magnetic pulse rig for stress testing which historically has been done and would explain why people felt weird seeing it due to the way electromagnetic waves interact with the human body. Fast forward to now and a schizo poster is going around with the laser idea and shitting up threads with his babble which then gets op to ask about this entire thing.
Did I miss something sir?
Boy oh boy, do I have a lot to tell about this thing.
Don’t have time to right now though. I’ll just assure that it is real, it’s a new type of WMD vastly superior to nukes, a total game breaker when it comes to warfare, a nearly perfect weapon.
Imagine being able to deliver pure gamma radiation to any place in the world.
>Gamma radiation anywhere in the world
What, like a fucking ICBM already does?
ICBM with a nuclear warhead also comes with other types of radiation, leaving radioactive residue.
This does not.
Another crucial feature is the ability to tune the power. As such, you can use it at low power levels so that it just kills any live targets, with little to no damage to the infrastructure. Coupled with the previous thing, you can sterilize the area then march in immediately afterwards.
As a particle beam, it also is basically impossible to intercept. Hiding deep underground is the only option though as the beam velocity gets higher that would become worthless eventually.
On more important thing: with the delivery being practically instant, it breaks the mutual assured destruction doctrine.
Part of deal is the delivery system. It's basically a supposed to be a neutral particle beam that is propagated along geomagnetic conjugate lines using ionspheric ducting. They® already utilize the ionosphere for comms and I believe over the horizon radar. I know it sounds completely retarded, but there are bunch of SDI projects that come to mind about doing this very thing. One would be BEAR. The other would be Starfish Prime, but instead it was induced by a nuclear weapons. There is talk to it in the LANL report about the test series, but the propagation distance and intensity of gamma reported at the conjugate points is redacted. As a weapons system, there would be no airborne radioisotopes to detect, there would be no ICBM launch to detect, and the byproduct is only gamma radiation. Should I start posting links for everyone? I'll start with the best two. And as far as the phase conjugation portion, it's not so much as actual phase conjugation as using 4 wave mixing to "dress" your dilute metallic gas so that it has similar optical properties as what you would find in a phase conjugate medium (i.e. anomalous dispersion). I know all this sounds retarded, but it does not appear to be bullshit. If anyone is old enough remember, all this occurred right around the time when the NIAC presentation by Kenneth Edwards was found and the SF Chronicle wrote a series of article about the USAF antimatter weapons programs ran partially out of Penn State. The LiJun Wang mentioned is the guy who broke the speed of light in 1999 at Princeton. I recognized who he meant because I am into this stuff and followed it in the news while in high school.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637964/pg2
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
so the system itself would basically be a ground based (or ship based?) installation with some sort of antenna array that induces a particle beam to curve along geomagnetic lines to the target?
I'm picturing something like DEW artillery rather than an ion cannon
Yes. It's the only thing that remotely makes sense. The ionspheric ducts could be created via satellite or maybe something like the X-37B
You can Google the names to find on the DTIC
I don’t see how trying to make such thing work would be better than just launching an accelerated positron beam from orbit.
Seems like it would need a shitload of power and team of people to make something like this functional. I mean it could be on a craft, but I doubt it.
That is true but I still don’t think that trying to channel it through ionosphere would be any easier and giving better results.
I’ll elaborate in a minute.
So...
I've done some theoretical work on this topic, in private.
Long story short, I kind of came up with the idea of using positron beam as a WMD a few months back. Mind you, I'm an aerospace engineer. I do have some knowledge of particle physics (some university courses and additionally studying on my own) but my main field of expertise still is aerospace engineering, fixed-wing aircraft specifically.
Generally the main issues regard beam dispersion and interaction with atmosphere (as in, electrons in air's atoms). As such, you don't want a long path, you also don't want a path that goes through dense layers of the atmosphere twice. You also practically need your system to be in vacuum.
You technically could use a neutral beam instead (e.g. positronium) but that leads to problems of its own - probabilistic decay timing, much harder to accelerate the beam (with lower speeds achieved), either problematic storage or additional steps in forming the beam... in my opinion, totally not worth it.
(To be continued.)
Without many details as I have some other things to do tonight (though I will check in for a while), based on my considerations, the best choice would be just sticking with simple positron beam.
The whole idea behind this system is that, despite it consisting of antimatter, positrons are relatively easy to make and store, to the point of such systems (at least low power ones, that is delivering amounts of gamma radiation that are enough to kill living beings but not enough to cause much thermal effects) are feasible with current technology. As a charged particle, accelerating them is quite simple and relativistic beam is very much achievable.
isn't all that where the phase conjugation comes into play? per my layman understanding, they're able to "pre-distort" the beam from the emitter so it isn't distorted or dispersed by atmosphere at the target. combined with the cesium medium light slowing thing they're able to store fuckhuge amounts of energy in the apparatus and dump it all at once
Now we would be talking about photons / gamma ray laser.
That’s not how phase conjugation works.
The wave gets distorted, what happens is it gets ‘undistorted’ on its way back instead of getting distorted more. Not applicable here (in case of a gamma laser) as return is not the intention.
Light slowing is a thing, nothing to say really.
To further add, this happens all the time naturally. I invite you to Google Terrestrial Gamma Ray Flashes. The gamma double flash signature from a positron annihilation has been found to occur naturally during lightning strikes.
I wouldn’t think about it too much if I were you.
Probably just some idiots chasing another stupid conspiracy theory.