>writes off the Turkenelli because it had problems cycling light loads even though the real Benelli M4 is known to have issues with light loads
Does anyone take opinions from TFB seriously?
Also, he complained about reloading being difficult when he was holding it like a moron while reloading.
Who cares? Shotguns are a meme weapon.
until space shootouts, then shotguns become OP
Gravity could literally disappear tomorrow and all your guns would stop working except the trusty pump action shotty. Well they would stop working as intended and be single shots...
Wat
>gravity could literally disappear tomorrow
No, it can't.
Here's a quick experiment to see if your gun depends on gravity. Try shooting it upside down then try shooting it sideways. If it cycles in all orientations then it works entirely on recoil / gas pressure / springs and not gravity.
space weapons will all be low caliber, multi shot guns
22lr and 22 short will be the preferred size of rounds
you dont need to penetrate in space, you just need accurate, easy to aim, multishot guns to puncture suits
>My 10/22 dolled up to look like an m1 carbine and gsg drum mag is the future
Based
>t. Didn’t watch the video
Him and his homosexual looking brother both had ftf with hot and pussy ammo. Are you by chance another poorBlack person coping about Benelli superiority
>Benelli superiority
You can buy a Stoeger for 1/4 of the cost of a Benelli and get the exact same results. You're only buying an M4 for the bragging rights at this point.
>just as good
cope seethe
Stoeger is literally owned by Benelli. The M3000 is quite literally 90% the exact same gun.
>t noguns
You clearly know frick all about any of these guns or brands shit the frick up
Google is free, homosexual
Yeah maybe you should use it to look up the operating system of the M4 you braindead frick. After that you can use google maps to get to the nearest bridge and jump off it
Be nice anon, if you start mentioning ARGO around morons like that then they’re liable to start talking about how season 2 was underrated.
Noguns here. From what I gather the patent on the benelli m4 is expired so wouldn't any company have accest to the design to replicate one?
How do you frick it up?
The problem seems to be that only turks will make affordable shit, but their quality control is fricking horrible, so you have a very good chance at getting a lemon. If a US company made a copy of the m4, it would still end up being incredibly expensive. Look at the mossberg 930 for example, you can barely even find those for under 900 dollars now. Semi auto shotguns made by reputable companies are just fricking expensive.
>only turks will make affordable shit
Franchi, Fabarm, Fair, Browning and Mossberg all make affordable shotguns.
Like I said in my post, you can’t get 930s for good prices anymore. 900 for a 930 is a fricking terrible price, you could spend a little more and get a beretta.
u can get 930s on israelitebroker for like $550 right now
Yeah and they're cheap dogshit
>sub $600 semi auto
Oh yeah, my bad.
You can get a Beretta A300U for $850 or so if you want a sporting shotgun. Would not recommend for tactical use as they are 3 round capacity.
affordable isnt a very descriptive word, he likely means sub $600 semi auto shotguns
only ones you can find are turkshit shotguns and used shotguns on gunbroker if you get lucky
It is made by benelli but its based on the m2, inertia not gas
Want one made in italy? Get a franchi
I should clarify made in turkey for benelli but with benellis blessing
No, Stoeger is owned by Beretta, which owns Benelli as well. However Stoeger is a 100% Turkish brand.
>jUsT aS GoOd!!
Is right, and said it far better than I could.
That's how it is supposed to look like
Do morons on /k/ really think the M3000 is a bad gun? I've heard and seen literally nothing but good things about them.
Yes, one picture truly destroys the dozens of reviews and videos calling it a good gun and showing it running flawlessly, absolutely.
For every good review (in which 99% of the time they shoot less than 10 rounds) you can find 10 pictures of turkshit """"""guns""""" catastrophically failing or maiming their owners
Blatantly lying doesn't really work when the videos are clearly available for everyone to watch.
I don't doubt that Turkish shotguns are often trash, what I AM calling bullshit on is the M3000 in particular being one of them. I can go onto YouTube right now and find a dozen reviews of this thing calling it great and showing it running with no problems.
frick off, murat.
stop. being. poor.
Does stoeger make a decent semi auto? I was told they were the only decent turk guns because they were owned by benelli and benelli subsidiaries have good qc. I owned a stoeger coach gun a while ago and it was really nice.
>You can buy a Stoeger
Stopped reading there
How about buying a good old used Benelli M1 super 90 with wood furnitures instead of hoping on the tactical shit wagon? The M1 is the best semi-auto shotgun there is, still superior to the M4, because the inertia system still remains superior to piston.
Ffs stop having a hard on for those shitty turk guns and buy used guns made by actual human beings.
The M1 was the tactical shit wagon of its time, though. The M2 is just a slightly improved M1. As far as it being better than an M4, I prefer inertia guns as well, but the M4 is every bit as reliable as an M2. Even more so if you need to have a lot of attachments on your shotgun. I think the ARGO is in a class of its own due to the fact that it's not only extremely reliable, but it's also the cleanest gas system I think of. You just pay for it all in extra weight, which some may prefer depending on their tastes.
>"hello mr. gunshop man I would like to sell you my used mystery meat turkish shotgun"
>"i'll give you forty bucks in store credit"
cool, 20 bucks profit
>t. unironically thinks Kimber 1911s and DD AR-15s are the best because they're expensive
DD is among the best though. Limber is just something you pulled out of your ass because you’re too poor to understand real quality tiers.
>Beretta is tied with Kel Tec and PSA for best gun companies today.
Don’t shit talk Beretta like that.
M2
Kimber is for morons who think expensive = good.
Kimber is for regular morons, they aren’t even expensive.
>$1,200+ for a 1911 isn't expensive
okay buddy
It’s not. Colts that aren’t base models start at $1200. The only ones you’re getting cheaper than that are Turkshit, Flipshit, or parkerized base models. Your perception is warped because you’re poor.
Except Rock Island 1911s aren't shit. Your perception is warped because you think you HAVE to have the most expensive models for them to be good.
My first 1911 was a RIA back when they had the billboard on the slide. I got rid of it because I put around 1500 rounds through it with a wide variety of magazines and ammo and it would always malfunction. If you can’t spend at least $800 then you shouldn’t be buying a 1911. They’re guns that require hand fitting that a SEA monkey is incapable of doing.
>my experience with X was bad, so all X things are bad
>b-b-but they aren’t ALL gigantic pieces of shit
Post your Rock Island so I can laugh
I've literally put 4400 rounds thru my full size citadel 1911 with out a failure .shit I can even had cycle empty cases thru the Fricking thing and it'll feed em
Based 1911.
I have a S/W 915 I got from a pawn shop that does that too. Its unreal isn't it?
It's definitely a testament to it's ability to run what ever I put in it
yeah....i think they are made on old colt machines. sometimes things just work mane
>Except Rock Island 1911s aren't shit.
lmao
Not especially more shit than a "nice" 1911 because they're all trash
>t. 1911 owner
I don't have a horse in this race, just laughing at you two gays yell about 2 different flavors of shit
See
Did you forget about Springfield?
I don’t remotely give a shit about Springfield.
That's fine but Springfield offers American made 1911s that are far beyond mil-spec for well below $1200
>American made
As of right now I don't think that's a such a selling point unless it's for economic reasons.
I'd rather have a gun made by Tyrone than not made at all by Chang (since he's locked in his house due to the coof) or Wilhelm (factory closed because there's no electricity to buy and they couldn't afford it even if there were)
If you want to cope with a Springfield then be my guest.
>$1200 for a gun that can easily cost 10× that much if you want it to isn't expensive
yeah, actually
The twitchy onions male is his brother? KEK
No, it's just his cameraman. His brother IIRC has never been in a video and recently became mayor
>Does anyone take opinions from TFB seriously?
absolutely not lol, for a few reasons. not that this excuses the Turknelli, but TFB is strictly entertainment. plus James admittedly skews more towards Gucci guns than budget ones.
That's he isn't a poor moron like you
Beretta 1301, Bennelli m2 or bite the bullet and get an m4? Which way /k/?
Steoger M3000
1301. Best bang for buck in the market. Beretta is tied with Kel Tec and PSA for best gun companies today.
M2 or 1301
I hear the 1301 is about to get a refresh so wait for that, LTT says that Beretta won't be shipping them any more 2nd Gen 1301s
The 3rd gens are already out, I've seen them in stores for a couple of months now.
>3rd Gen 1301s
What did they change? Everyone was praising the 2nd gen
They just changed the Italian made furniture to US made for 922r purposes, it looks the same as the old gens. That allows them to give you a full mag tube from the factory so you don't have to get an aftermarket extension. Everything else is identical. Still has screw in chokes and the upgraded bolt release button.
Bite the pillow and let Benelli have its way with you. Find a legit Benelli dealer and they might sell you the uncucked Law enforcement model.
I've never heard a bad thing about the 1301 from the dozens that left the shop i worked, although one guy said the finish was garbage because it couldn't handle him flinging it off his ATV like a spastic.
Reminds me of a guy at my local gun store. Dodged the vietnam draft yet always wore a vietnam veteran cap. He loved revolver and TRASHTALKED Uberti replicas to no end saying one blew up his finger. Over the years it came out the moron loaded a black powder revolver with smokeless like a fricking moron 2 times.
TFB is full of a bunch of urban gays who didn't own guns before 2012 who shit on guns based on price and how much the company is paying them. "Premium" companies (sig) get good reviews, entry level companies get bad reviews. At TFB, nobody owned a gun before 2012, so they judge guns based off of what looks good on social media instead of what is actually a functional firearm. James Reeves is the frickin posterboy of TFB, being some Miami gay who didn't pick up a gun before his 18th birthday who has turned TFB into a side gig where he talks about how only guns that are from "premium" brand names are worth buying.
That's the worst shit about Sandy Hook, it dragged in so many urban and suburbanite wannabees who only gave a shit about guns to satiate their politics and fears. And when they review guns, the only thing that matters is how much it costs, because that will look the best on their social media pages. They're all fake.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/Ordnance_Outsellers___Any_other_CPO_sites_/14-17749/
OP turkroach who got btfod in the original thread samegayging and getting btfod in this thread too
>OP turkroach who got btfod in the original thread samegayging and getting btfod in this thread too
I don't think I've even had a conversation in the other thread, you fricking schizo.
I just leave the same comment about James Reeves whenever the TFB TV topic comes up because the problem persists.
>James reviews mid tier priced guns, hop is the one who reviews poverty gear. Being poor in 2022 is a choice
Either way, it's always the same few brands. There are expensive smaller brands that they could show but they don't.
ClassicFirearms does a far better job at covering different guns at the few shows they attend.
>the malding roach is back
Take care of your aspergers.
>either you are the same guy or everyone who seetheposts about tfbtv is a high-effort redditspacing homosexual, got it
What did Reeves ever do for you? Or is it just some crush you have on him?
>hahah you have CRUSH on him
>that means you are GAY lol
when english is a second language, fourth grade level burns are about the best you can do
This is your brain on Reeves' cum.
I'm not even talking about Turkish guns. I'm talking about the fact that Reeves only covers a hand full of brands over and over. His personal brand biases prevents the TFB TV channel from having anywhere near the scope that TFB blog has.
You're full of shit because other tfb hosts like the weird twink with a squared jaw just released a video about a taurus pistol.
that's the last 20 videos and I count at least 16 different manufacturers
Again, turkanon, you are insane, please stop spamming the board
ooh, Hop reviewed the Gx4 again
brb
either you are the same guy or everyone who seetheposts about tfbtv is a high-effort redditspacing homosexual, got it
Kek. Absolutely BTFO. James has been selling guns for longer than this screeching moron has owned them probably.
>James has been selling guns
I thought he was a lawyer. Does he have a gun store?
Read the arfcom link.
?t=1659
start at 27:39
I love comfy guntuber shitflinging threads. Reminds me of old /k/ when we b***hed about these before all the milgays and u/k/ranians settled here
Paul harrel is best gun channel.
Change my mind
>old /k/
you mean post-sandy hook /k/
I wonder where cold steel gay went to
IDK if it is just me but it seems like there are less Ukraine gays on the board recently. They dont even talk about weapons but just homosexual politics and sucking Ukrainian dick that nobody cares about
I keep sending that shit to them but they never listen
I have not seen a single pro russian thread, nice try though homosexual
Vatnik
>vatnik
Talk about guns, homosexual, instead of coping about a war that doesn't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.
>doesn't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.
It already tripled the light and gas bill of my business. Talk about guns, homosexual, instead of coping about threads that don't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.
>homosexual being sarcastic
what tripled your bills is people crying over the war and trying to "support le ukraine" instead of ignoring it. Like how youre mad about Russia when you could simply not give a frick
Dumb vatnik, get a job.
The Greens did this to you, and are actively trying to make it worse.
Yeah yeah. Post butter prices, ivan.
NTA but fricking around in Ukraine is not the only reason prices are the way they are. The only people who come to this conclusion are useful idiots.
Yeah yeah
It had problems with *every* load.
As usual OP is a copegay who was probably the same guy in the last thread b***hing until it got bump limited
OP is absolutely the same redditspacing turkBlack person from the last thread
Well I went to watch the video and it's not even close to how you described it. Sounds like you're a butthurt Turk.
He is, this is the second thread he's started about this video
Damn OP got his shitter shattered in the original thread but the author so hard that he waited to do a new thread.
OP is a homosexual, confirmed
Thanks for bringing to my attention how shit Turkish guns are OP. No wonder Turks are getting slaughtered by sandal wearing Kurds in the mountains.
So you didn't watch the video? He cycled several full power loads, slugs and federal buck. Smells like poverty posting.
>He cycled several full power loads, slugs and federal buck.
Exactly, those worked just fine, it was the lighter stuff that had issues, like the real M4.
>those worked just fine
Lol. No they didn't.
No they didn't at all.
Again you stink of poverty
you may want to actually watch the video before commenting.
rather buy a $400 baikal than anything made in turkey
I have a Baikal double barrel 12ga, shit is so cash.
If you watched the video it showed it wasn't able to run no fricking shell. From light loads to 3 inch slugs
You're still butthurt, roach?
>turkish gun is shit
How is anyone surprised?
TFB website is great and very resourceful. TFB TV is dogshit because the host is dogshit.
James Reeves is extremely biased to the point that even when they go to trade expos, they'll just review the same dozen or half-dozen gun brands as always. The main channel reviews is the same way. It's always the same shit.
James reviews mid tier priced guns, hop is the one who reviews poverty gear. Being poor in 2022 is a choice
What annoys me about this review is that he never tries to figure out WHY the gun is failing. In the Boss Hog review he disassembles the gun entirely and pinpoints what the issue is. Here they just gave up and didn't even try to discover the root cause, which is kind of shitty since it looks like most of the issues they had came from gas, and if it's as simple of a fix as an extractor or o-ring, that's not fair to write the gun off entirely.
The problem of these turk m4 clones was known even before his video and he probably knew them already. Look at
and then look at the real one. The turk simply copied the design without giving a frick about proper tolerances and using literal chinese metal.
But that's still an assumption being made, which isn't a fair review. The common theme with these guns seems to be "roll the dice" but a $20 extractor replacement is a different problem versus a bolt that beats itself to death after <100 rounds.
How is it an assumption when there is documented evidences and photos? Do you expect him to review a product completely bling going in?
The assumption being "I saw that a Turkenelli failed for X reason, so I'm going to assume it's the same reason"
>Do you expect him to review a product completely bling going in?
No, but I do expect him to actually REVIEW it.
Fair enough, but after so many videos abut turkshit shotguns shitting the bed I bet he probably thought that no one of his viewers would be genuinely interested in an indepth review of another potmetal failure.
I'll agree that it would've been interesting to see what failed on his sample, but like 99% of the time it's always the crude gas system that eats itself out.
>No, but I do expect him to actually REVIEW it.
how do you review a broken shotgun?
He beat the SMAX to death and opened up the Boss Hog to show the mechanical failure. With this one he just sort of gave up.
Yeah I did but that's because those guns ran at first and then had issues. This one failed from the get go so there wasn't going to be any acute issue like with the other guns (e.g. slipped gas ring, which I think was the Boss Hog). We also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range. In any event this is just cope. The gun was brand new and it didn't run. If it's a five dollar issue or a five hundred dollar issue, it's still the fourth consecutive turkshit shotgun failure. You can blame me for not being thorough enough with the review but that's really just projecting your anger about this gun chugging massive penis. Also OP I know this is you from the last thread because of your weird stilted redditspaced English as a second language posts.
Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed
Did Carl Brugger say anything about selling the BWC in Europe? Considering it's just a chassis like a roni you could sell it over the counter no license/registration needed.
If they end up producing it I hope it's not going to be a limited 1k run only for the US.
No and I'm really bad about asking about eurogay interests even though you guys make up 40 percent of our audience. I'll do better in the future anon, I'm sorry.
No worries
Depends on the country. We all have different laws. Here in Italy beside no full auto (unless granfathered) and no 50 bmg and up we can own "almost" anything. Pic related would be an hunting rifle and a "common weapon". Still really shitty laws compared to most of the US.
Is that a PSL?
Your mom bought my BWC in Tijuana
What kind of guns can you even own in europe beside shotguns?
NERF
god dam that's a burn and a half
>I know this is you from the last thread because of your weird stilted redditspaced English as a second language posts.
lmao
>Perfect grammar means someone speaks English as a second language
moron
based, how's your 1301 holding up?
Great. It's like the Shawshank Redemption of guns because you can rec it to anyone and they'll like it. I've had some misses in reviews before but not that one.
fug got eem
thanks anon. I'll be 40 in a few months
fricking forty
Yes lab conditions to review a $399 shotgun. If I wanted to do that, I'd use the same ammo, same lube, same temperature outside/inside, same rate of fire. But I don't. Because I'm not testing how fast the car goes, I'm just seeing if the car can drive 500 miles without blowing up and killing its occupants. That's it. This isn't comparative per se, I'm just asking a gun to do a reasonable thing, and that is to work out of the box when new and to work for a very limited amount of time - 500 rounds.
anon gets it
>Yes lab conditions to review a $399 shotgun
You did it for the other ones.
moron
>lol why would I review a $400 turkshit shotgun in lab conditions
>idk why did you do it for the other ones?
>uh, uh...you're a moron!
have a nice day at the earliest opportunity
Too bad he didn't do it with any of them? God now I know why poor people are poor.
>Too bad he didn't do it with any of them?
Except he did, you fricking idiot. Try watching the videos in question before commenting, homosexual.
you are literally insane sir
SMAX: Indoor range w/gunsmith
Boss Hog: Indoor range w/gunsmith
Maverick: Indoor range w/gunsmith
>hE DiDn't Do It WiTh The OtHeRs
frick off
>He shot them in an indoor range with a gunsmith for three of the 7 or 8 videos and two of those failed anyways
>yeah so what's your point here
>nothing I'm just really reaching for a big ol chaw of cope while I stare at my TAC 12 in the corner
My TAC 12 runs fine, actually.
Can confirm. All the 6 rounds I ran thru it worked
So light rain is enough to disable a turkish shotgun?
yes but as I said that wasn't fair because he did not test the other guns in precipitation.
The 940 was put under LESS ideal conditions than the Turkshit. He was feeding it fricking antique ammo to frick with it on purpose.
holy frick
my sides
Jesus christ guy, what are you on about
Prior reviews:
>sometimes random 20+ year old ammo, sometimes all new production ammo, all different loadings and grab bag of manufacturers
>sometimes at an indoor shooting range (Citadel, Boss Hog, Maverick), sometimes outdoors (1301, Turknelli, Mossberg 940, VEPR12), sometimes both (HS104T)
>Never lubed
Then again I'm not going to guess what passes as lab conditions in Turkey. That said, the objective is easy - fire 500 rounds without taking a shit. Not shockingly, no Turkish guns have passed this test, no matter how it was administered, where, or with what. Also interesting, the *only* guns that have failed have been Turkish. Even the cheapest US made shotgun passed. Just give up already, please.
Beretta 1301 (Italy)
> Pass
Molot VEPR-12 (Russia)
> Pass
Mossberg 940 (US)
> Pass
Mossberg Maverick 88 *Pump* (US)
> Pass
SDS Imports TAC-12 (Turkey)
> Fail
Adler Arms HS104T *Pump* (Turkey)
> Fail
Citadel Boss Hog (Turkey)
> Fail
Black Aces S-Max (Turkey)
> Fail
>Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed
how old are you motherfricker? you look like 35 max
>e also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range
Why not keep the test environment consistent? Seems like you went into this test with a healthy amount of preexisting bias.
No amount of pre existing bias or lack thereof would have made that roach malfunction training device work.
>roach malfunction training device
Hey James miss u bb much love ty for lurkin very grateful you put up with the homosexuals here to bring us lulz.
can u review the baikal mp153? i want it because of tarkov but they dont import it anymore so maybe its not worth it idk
Shave that shit off your face. You think it makes you look masculine but it actually makes you look more queer than you already are.
I'll let Ryan know but he sits to pee and his wife is an 11/10 big boobie Russian so I don't think he cares what you think about his face anon
Nice, please send pics of Ryan's wife's breasts asap, thanks
>WHY
Exactly. That's what separates gun guys from gun tourists. Boomers like pic related are just old tourists going off some Gun Bible they got in the 70's
>WHY the gun is failing.
Whats the fricking point for a 300 dollar turkshit gun?
uh, what? if the issue is 40 minutes with some sandpaper to smooth something out, why the frick wouldnt you want to know and do it
See
and
and?
Nothing, I thought I was talking to a individual with an IQ above room temperature. My bad, carry on.
okay. make sure to list it cheap so i can buy it cheap, fix it for less then 5 bucks and turn it around
Lmao you're a malding roach
okay. make sure to return it within its return period i can put it back on the shelves and sell it again
>selling a defective product that can't be fixed
Do turks really?
>cant be fixed
yep. cant be fixed, literally impossible. no one has ever replaced a part on a gun, ever. sir we also have a 30% restocking fee, we will take that out of the refund.
Show me how you fix something like
heat it up with an oxy acetylene torch and bend it back
>shoot 10 rounds
>bend it back with torch
>rinse repeat every 10 rounds
The marvels of turkish engeneering
Also, how do you fix shit turkish steel that deforms both the bolt head and the gas rods? in 30 rounds
dunno. id have to do some googling, see if other people have had issues, how they fixed the issues, how it worked after the issues. check if parts are replaceable in the first place, so on, so fourth. i dont have the shotgun, so this is a little hard to do. also , cant ignore the possibility the owner caused the damage from improper disassembly.
it might be worth it, might not be.
God damn you're moronic
If any gun doesn't work flawlessly from the factory it isn't worth a second glance, let alone a fricking investigation.
Thanks god I bought an sp5. The t94 is shit just like any other turkshit gun
>do I listen to any person that is a paid shill
No, no I don't.
hes a spoiled israelite. Anyone no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a c**t
>hes a spoiled israelite. Anyone no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a c**t
>do I listen to any person that is a paid shill
>No, no I don't.
>The guntoober internet defense force is here.
So here's the thing, I'm just not gonna watch your serotonin addled zoomer videos.
I know
I know
I'm just not gonna waste my time
but you'll sit here and whine about it, after having watched it.
lmao
>no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a c**t
A gun is supposed to shoot. That roach thing he threw can't shoot. Therefore it's not a gun.
YEAH BUT HES GOING TO SELL IT TO SOME IDIOT AND LAUGH THAT HE THREW IT AND MADE MONEY
>YEAH BUT HES GOING TO SELL IT TO SOME IDIOT AND LAUGH THAT HE THREW IT AND MADE MONEY
I thought the whole purpose of the M4's gas system was to shoot basically any load?
Some benelli m4 have trouble cycling light target loads when they are new.
The benneli was not designed for light loads.
Neither was your mom
>shotguns will always fail forever if they fall on the ground once
>why didn't you test it in sterile indoor conditions? then it would have cycled perfectly
>you didn't oil it with the exact correct amound of perfectly formulated weapons lubricant? no wonder it jammed every second shot
Big fricking COPERS. Cope harder, your gun fricking jams and it's a piece of shit. Stop trying to shill me. I owned a cheap semi-auto and remember the experience VIVIDLY. I am convinced that budget shotgun owners truly believe a jam every 25 rounds is "normal" and "reliable" and that higher-end shotguns jam just as often. They need to stop coping and invest in a better shotgun, or just shut the frick up. If your gun cannot cycle at least 3 dram target loads 100% reliably it is a fricking turd, and your stupid tinkering is not solving the problem.
To be fair this turknelli would've failed even with those precautions. You can't have a firearm with such a crude copy of the original gas system function.
Just remember, the reason you're poor is because you're stupid.
Maybe this thread can help me? Years and years ago there was video going around /k/ of some russian (?) testing what I think were turk shotguns. Mag-fed ones. They all failed, cracked receivers, mags stuck, jams up the fricking wazoo. Does this ring a bell? The guns were all dark tan and black.
It's easy bro just do all the metallurgy yourself, I do it all the time
Just like fudds will shoot 20 rounds max per year and call their gun reliable, I'm sure after this thread that poorgays unironically never shoot their guns and call them reliable
I bought a Winchester a while back that was Turk made. Brand new. Constant hang fires right out of the box. Rusted like a new Remington within 6 months in a dehumidified safe. I think there was a recall put out on them.
>dehumidified safe
How does that work?
James can you unironically review the M3000 so we can have another one of these threads?
yeah but t b h I think it really will be the turkshit combo breaker. Then again everyone said that about the TAC12 and it ended up being the biggest hunk of shit on the channel so far except maybe the HS104T. The S- Max and Boss Hog at least worked for a little while
>bulge
I'd hope so. If even the italians can't make the turks shit out a "decent" shotgun then no one can.
Same. I hope it does work. I don't have an anti-Turkish agenda per se but I do think that the influx of shitty Turkish shotguns that keep changing importers, make, and model but are the same gun or slightly different does border on actual deceitful, criminal activity. It pisses me off because I remember being a little 18 year old frick like half of you and saving up money to buy a cool gun, being stoked to take it to the range. How disappointing to get there after blowing a couple weeks of server tipouts from bussing tables and the fricking thing doesn't work, and then you have to do the hokie pokie to get repair service.
>saving up money to buy a cool gun, being stoked to take it to the range. How disappointing to get there after blowing a couple weeks of server tipouts from bussing tables and the fricking thing doesn't work, and then you have to do the hokie pokie to get repair service.
Happened to a friend of mine with a pump Hatsan, except the company refused to honor the warranty so the gun store just gave him his money back.
Honestly probably the best possible outcome for him
Which model?
Hatsan escort something something. It was the one with the semi folding stock and the 14in barrel. Couldn't have been more than 300 euro.
>influx of shitty Turkish shotguns that keep changing importers, make, and model but are the same gun or slightly different does border on actual deceitful, criminal activity.
For real. It's all just to create confusion in customers.
>the M4 has issues cycling light ammo
Yes but if TFB points that out all of the Benelli fanboys will pitch a fit and some will unsubscribe. At the end of the day TFB TV is a buisness and what is bad for profits is to be avoided. Don't blame them, blame their comsumers.
- t. guy who has no idea how tfbtv works
Anon if you can't figure out basic concepts such as why a youtube channel wouldn't want to lose subscribers I can't help you.
Mine doesn't. It's an issue only when the gun is new and goes away after 50 rounds.
We already had the thread moron, stop making it again. You got blown out the first time. He cycled hot loads, and even hot sporting shot. It cycled none of it.
>caring about [opinion] of [youtube celebrity]
lmao, shoot it yourself and see if you like it.