>writes off the Turkenelli because it had problems cycling light loads even though the real Benelli M4 is known to have issues with light loads

>writes off the Turkenelli because it had problems cycling light loads even though the real Benelli M4 is known to have issues with light loads

Does anyone take opinions from TFB seriously?

Also, he complained about reloading being difficult when he was holding it like a retard while reloading.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? Shotguns are a meme weapon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      until space shootouts, then shotguns become OP

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gravity could literally disappear tomorrow and all your guns would stop working except the trusty pump action shotty. Well they would stop working as intended and be single shots...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gravity could literally disappear tomorrow
          No, it can't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here's a quick experiment to see if your gun depends on gravity. Try shooting it upside down then try shooting it sideways. If it cycles in all orientations then it works entirely on recoil / gas pressure / springs and not gravity.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        space weapons will all be low caliber, multi shot guns
        22lr and 22 short will be the preferred size of rounds
        you dont need to penetrate in space, you just need accurate, easy to aim, multishot guns to puncture suits

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >My 10/22 dolled up to look like an m1 carbine and gsg drum mag is the future
          Based

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >t. Didn’t watch the video
    Him and his gay looking brother both had ftf with hot and pussy ammo. Are you by chance another poormoron coping about Benelli superiority

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Benelli superiority
      You can buy a Stoeger for 1/4 of the cost of a Benelli and get the exact same results. You're only buying an M4 for the bragging rights at this point.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just as good
        cope seethe

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stoeger is literally owned by Benelli. The M3000 is quite literally 90% the exact same gun.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t noguns
            You clearly know fuck all about any of these guns or brands shit the fuck up

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Google is free, gay

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah maybe you should use it to look up the operating system of the M4 you braindead fuck. After that you can use google maps to get to the nearest bridge and jump off it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Be nice anon, if you start mentioning ARGO around retards like that then they’re liable to start talking about how season 2 was underrated.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noguns here. From what I gather the patent on the benelli m4 is expired so wouldn't any company have accest to the design to replicate one?
                How do you fuck it up?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem seems to be that only turks will make affordable shit, but their quality control is fucking horrible, so you have a very good chance at getting a lemon. If a US company made a copy of the m4, it would still end up being incredibly expensive. Look at the mossberg 930 for example, you can barely even find those for under 900 dollars now. Semi auto shotguns made by reputable companies are just fucking expensive.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >only turks will make affordable shit
                Franchi, Fabarm, Fair, Browning and Mossberg all make affordable shotguns.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said in my post, you can’t get 930s for good prices anymore. 900 for a 930 is a fucking terrible price, you could spend a little more and get a beretta.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                u can get 930s on garden gnomebroker for like $550 right now

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and they're cheap dogshit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                affordable isnt a very descriptive word, he likely means sub $600 semi auto shotguns
                only ones you can find are turkshit shotguns and used shotguns on gunbroker if you get lucky

                >sub $600 semi auto
                Oh yeah, my bad.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can get a Beretta A300U for $850 or so if you want a sporting shotgun. Would not recommend for tactical use as they are 3 round capacity.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                affordable isnt a very descriptive word, he likely means sub $600 semi auto shotguns
                only ones you can find are turkshit shotguns and used shotguns on gunbroker if you get lucky

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is made by benelli but its based on the m2, inertia not gas
            Want one made in italy? Get a franchi

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I should clarify made in turkey for benelli but with benellis blessing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, Stoeger is owned by Beretta, which owns Benelli as well. However Stoeger is a 100% Turkish brand.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >jUsT aS GoOd!!

            Yeah maybe you should use it to look up the operating system of the M4 you braindead fuck. After that you can use google maps to get to the nearest bridge and jump off it

            Is right, and said it far better than I could.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/giUzqYP.jpg

                >jUsT aS GoOd!!
                [...]
                Is right, and said it far better than I could.

                That's how it is supposed to look like

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You can buy a Stoeger
          Stopped reading there

          How about buying a good old used Benelli M1 super 90 with wood furnitures instead of hoping on the tactical shit wagon? The M1 is the best semi-auto shotgun there is, still superior to the M4, because the inertia system still remains superior to piston.
          Ffs stop having a hard on for those shitty turk guns and buy used guns made by actual human beings.

          Do retards on PrepHole really think the M3000 is a bad gun? I've heard and seen literally nothing but good things about them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/uT9Mwgg.jpg

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, one picture truly destroys the dozens of reviews and videos calling it a good gun and showing it running flawlessly, absolutely.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For every good review (in which 99% of the time they shoot less than 10 rounds) you can find 10 pictures of turkshit """"""guns""""" catastrophically failing or maiming their owners

                >Too bad he didn't do it with any of them?
                Except he did, you fucking idiot. Try watching the videos in question before commenting, gay.

                Blatantly lying doesn't really work when the videos are clearly available for everyone to watch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't doubt that Turkish shotguns are often trash, what I AM calling bullshit on is the M3000 in particular being one of them. I can go onto YouTube right now and find a dozen reviews of this thing calling it great and showing it running with no problems.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fuck off, murat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/lGTB8BR.jpg

        >writes off the Turkenelli because it had problems cycling light loads even though the real Benelli M4 is known to have issues with light loads

        Does anyone take opinions from TFB seriously?

        Also, he complained about reloading being difficult when he was holding it like a retard while reloading.

        >t. unironically thinks Kimber 1911s and DD AR-15s are the best because they're expensive

        stop. being. poor.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does stoeger make a decent semi auto? I was told they were the only decent turk guns because they were owned by benelli and benelli subsidiaries have good qc. I owned a stoeger coach gun a while ago and it was really nice.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You can buy a Stoeger
        Stopped reading there

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How about buying a good old used Benelli M1 super 90 with wood furnitures instead of hoping on the tactical shit wagon? The M1 is the best semi-auto shotgun there is, still superior to the M4, because the inertia system still remains superior to piston.
        Ffs stop having a hard on for those shitty turk guns and buy used guns made by actual human beings.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The M1 was the tactical shit wagon of its time, though. The M2 is just a slightly improved M1. As far as it being better than an M4, I prefer inertia guns as well, but the M4 is every bit as reliable as an M2. Even more so if you need to have a lot of attachments on your shotgun. I think the ARGO is in a class of its own due to the fact that it's not only extremely reliable, but it's also the cleanest gas system I think of. You just pay for it all in extra weight, which some may prefer depending on their tastes.

          https://i.imgur.com/ZlApHEq.jpg

          okay. make sure to list it cheap so i can buy it cheap, fix it for less then 5 bucks and turn it around

          >"hello mr. gunshop man I would like to sell you my used mystery meat turkish shotgun"
          >"i'll give you forty bucks in store credit"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cool, 20 bucks profit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. unironically thinks Kimber 1911s and DD AR-15s are the best because they're expensive

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD is among the best though. Limber is just something you pulled out of your ass because you’re too poor to understand real quality tiers.
        >Beretta is tied with Kel Tec and PSA for best gun companies today.
        Don’t shit talk Beretta like that.

        Beretta 1301, Bennelli m2 or bite the bullet and get an m4? Which way PrepHole?

        M2

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kimber is for retards who think expensive = good.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kimber is for regular retards, they aren’t even expensive.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >$1,200+ for a 1911 isn't expensive
              okay buddy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not. Colts that aren’t base models start at $1200. The only ones you’re getting cheaper than that are Turkshit, Flipshit, or parkerized base models. Your perception is warped because you’re poor.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except Rock Island 1911s aren't shit. Your perception is warped because you think you HAVE to have the most expensive models for them to be good.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My first 1911 was a RIA back when they had the billboard on the slide. I got rid of it because I put around 1500 rounds through it with a wide variety of magazines and ammo and it would always malfunction. If you can’t spend at least $800 then you shouldn’t be buying a 1911. They’re guns that require hand fitting that a SEA monkey is incapable of doing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >my experience with X was bad, so all X things are bad

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >b-b-but they aren’t ALL gigantic pieces of shit
                Post your Rock Island so I can laugh

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've literally put 4400 rounds thru my full size citadel 1911 with out a failure .shit I can even had cycle empty cases thru the Fucking thing and it'll feed em

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based 1911.

                I have a S/W 915 I got from a pawn shop that does that too. Its unreal isn't it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's definitely a testament to it's ability to run what ever I put in it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah....i think they are made on old colt machines. sometimes things just work mane

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Except Rock Island 1911s aren't shit.
                lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not especially more shit than a "nice" 1911 because they're all trash

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. 1911 owner
                I don't have a horse in this race, just laughing at you two fags yell about 2 different flavors of shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                https://i.imgur.com/3iHDjwF.jpg

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you forget about Springfield?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t remotely give a shit about Springfield.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's fine but Springfield offers American made 1911s that are far beyond mil-spec for well below $1200

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >American made
                As of right now I don't think that's a such a selling point unless it's for economic reasons.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd rather have a gun made by Tyrone than not made at all by Chang (since he's locked in his house due to the coof) or Wilhelm (factory closed because there's no electricity to buy and they couldn't afford it even if there were)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you want to cope with a Springfield then be my guest.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >$1200 for a gun that can easily cost 10× that much if you want it to isn't expensive
                yeah, actually

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The twitchy onions male is his brother? KEK

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's just his cameraman. His brother IIRC has never been in a video and recently became mayor

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone take opinions from TFB seriously?
    absolutely not lol, for a few reasons. not that this excuses the Turknelli, but TFB is strictly entertainment. plus James admittedly skews more towards Gucci guns than budget ones.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's he isn't a poor retard like you

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beretta 1301, Bennelli m2 or bite the bullet and get an m4? Which way PrepHole?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Steoger M3000

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1301. Best bang for buck in the market. Beretta is tied with Kel Tec and PSA for best gun companies today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M2 or 1301

      I hear the 1301 is about to get a refresh so wait for that, LTT says that Beretta won't be shipping them any more 2nd Gen 1301s

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The 3rd gens are already out, I've seen them in stores for a couple of months now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          M2 or 1301

          I hear the 1301 is about to get a refresh so wait for that, LTT says that Beretta won't be shipping them any more 2nd Gen 1301s

          >3rd Gen 1301s
          What did they change? Everyone was praising the 2nd gen

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They just changed the Italian made furniture to US made for 922r purposes, it looks the same as the old gens. That allows them to give you a full mag tube from the factory so you don't have to get an aftermarket extension. Everything else is identical. Still has screw in chokes and the upgraded bolt release button.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bite the pillow and let Benelli have its way with you. Find a legit Benelli dealer and they might sell you the uncucked Law enforcement model.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've never heard a bad thing about the 1301 from the dozens that left the shop i worked, although one guy said the finish was garbage because it couldn't handle him flinging it off his ATV like a spastic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminds me of a guy at my local gun store. Dodged the vietnam draft yet always wore a vietnam veteran cap. He loved revolver and TRASHTALKED Uberti replicas to no end saying one blew up his finger. Over the years it came out the retard loaded a black powder revolver with smokeless like a fucking retard 2 times.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TFB is full of a bunch of urban fags who didn't own guns before 2012 who shit on guns based on price and how much the company is paying them. "Premium" companies (sig) get good reviews, entry level companies get bad reviews. At TFB, nobody owned a gun before 2012, so they judge guns based off of what looks good on social media instead of what is actually a functional firearm. James Reeves is the fuckin posterboy of TFB, being some Miami fag who didn't pick up a gun before his 18th birthday who has turned TFB into a side gig where he talks about how only guns that are from "premium" brand names are worth buying.

    That's the worst shit about Sandy Hook, it dragged in so many urban and suburbanite wannabees who only gave a shit about guns to satiate their politics and fears. And when they review guns, the only thing that matters is how much it costs, because that will look the best on their social media pages. They're all fake.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/Ordnance_Outsellers___Any_other_CPO_sites_/14-17749/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TFB website is great and very resourceful. TFB TV is dogshit because the host is dogshit.

      James Reeves is extremely biased to the point that even when they go to trade expos, they'll just review the same dozen or half-dozen gun brands as always. The main channel reviews is the same way. It's always the same shit.

      OP turkroach who got btfod in the original thread samefagging and getting btfod in this thread too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OP turkroach who got btfod in the original thread samefagging and getting btfod in this thread too

        I don't think I've even had a conversation in the other thread, you fucking schizo.
        I just leave the same comment about James Reeves whenever the TFB TV topic comes up because the problem persists.

        James reviews mid tier priced guns, hop is the one who reviews poverty gear. Being poor in 2022 is a choice

        >James reviews mid tier priced guns, hop is the one who reviews poverty gear. Being poor in 2022 is a choice

        Either way, it's always the same few brands. There are expensive smaller brands that they could show but they don't.
        ClassicFirearms does a far better job at covering different guns at the few shows they attend.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the malding roach is back

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Take care of your aspergers.

            either you are the same guy or everyone who seetheposts about tfbtv is a high-effort redditspacing gay, got it

            >either you are the same guy or everyone who seetheposts about tfbtv is a high-effort redditspacing gay, got it

            What did Reeves ever do for you? Or is it just some crush you have on him?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hahah you have CRUSH on him
              >that means you are GAY lol
              when english is a second language, fourth grade level burns are about the best you can do

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is your brain on Reeves' cum.

                I'm not even talking about Turkish guns. I'm talking about the fact that Reeves only covers a hand full of brands over and over. His personal brand biases prevents the TFB TV channel from having anywhere near the scope that TFB blog has.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're full of shit because other tfb hosts like the weird twink with a squared jaw just released a video about a taurus pistol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's the last 20 videos and I count at least 16 different manufacturers
                Again, turkanon, you are insane, please stop spamming the board

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ooh, Hop reviewed the Gx4 again
                brb

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          either you are the same guy or everyone who seetheposts about tfbtv is a high-effort redditspacing gay, got it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/dsOWaDK.jpg

      https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/Ordnance_Outsellers___Any_other_CPO_sites_/14-17749/

      Kek. Absolutely BTFO. James has been selling guns for longer than this screeching retard has owned them probably.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >James has been selling guns
        I thought he was a lawyer. Does he have a gun store?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Read the arfcom link.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=1659
          start at 27:39

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love comfy guntuber shitflinging threads. Reminds me of old PrepHole when we bitched about these before all the milfags and u/k/ranians settled here

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Paul harrel is best gun channel.

      Change my mind

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >old PrepHole
      you mean post-sandy hook PrepHole

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder where cold steel fag went to

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IDK if it is just me but it seems like there are less Ukraine fags on the board recently. They dont even talk about weapons but just gay politics and sucking Ukrainian dick that nobody cares about

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I keep sending that shit to them but they never listen

          https://i.imgur.com/q9SLVP3.png

          I have not seen a single pro russian thread, nice try though gay

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Vatnik

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >vatnik
              Talk about guns, gay, instead of coping about a war that doesn't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.
                It already tripled the light and gas bill of my business. Talk about guns, gay, instead of coping about threads that don't effect anything you will ever do in your entire life.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gay being sarcastic
                what tripled your bills is people crying over the war and trying to "support le ukraine" instead of ignoring it. Like how youre mad about Russia when you could simply not give a fuck

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dumb vatnik, get a job.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Greens did this to you, and are actively trying to make it worse.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah yeah. Post butter prices, ivan.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but fucking around in Ukraine is not the only reason prices are the way they are. The only people who come to this conclusion are useful idiots.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah yeah

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It had problems with *every* load.
    As usual OP is a copefag who was probably the same guy in the last thread bitching until it got bump limited

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is absolutely the same redditspacing turkmoron from the last thread

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well I went to watch the video and it's not even close to how you described it. Sounds like you're a butthurt Turk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is, this is the second thread he's started about this video

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn OP got his shitter shattered in the original thread but the author so hard that he waited to do a new thread.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is a gay, confirmed

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for bringing to my attention how shit Turkish guns are OP. No wonder Turks are getting slaughtered by sandal wearing Kurds in the mountains.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you didn't watch the video? He cycled several full power loads, slugs and federal buck. Smells like poverty posting.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He cycled several full power loads, slugs and federal buck.

      Exactly, those worked just fine, it was the lighter stuff that had issues, like the real M4.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >those worked just fine
        Lol. No they didn't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn't at all.
        Again you stink of poverty

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you may want to actually watch the video before commenting.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rather buy a $400 baikal than anything made in turkey

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a Baikal double barrel 12ga, shit is so cash.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you watched the video it showed it wasn't able to run no fucking shell. From light loads to 3 inch slugs

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're still butthurt, roach?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turkish gun is shit
    How is anyone surprised?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TFB website is great and very resourceful. TFB TV is dogshit because the host is dogshit.

    James Reeves is extremely biased to the point that even when they go to trade expos, they'll just review the same dozen or half-dozen gun brands as always. The main channel reviews is the same way. It's always the same shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      James reviews mid tier priced guns, hop is the one who reviews poverty gear. Being poor in 2022 is a choice

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What annoys me about this review is that he never tries to figure out WHY the gun is failing. In the Boss Hog review he disassembles the gun entirely and pinpoints what the issue is. Here they just gave up and didn't even try to discover the root cause, which is kind of shitty since it looks like most of the issues they had came from gas, and if it's as simple of a fix as an extractor or o-ring, that's not fair to write the gun off entirely.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem of these turk m4 clones was known even before his video and he probably knew them already. Look at

      https://i.imgur.com/WGZjB1o.jpg

      and then look at the real one. The turk simply copied the design without giving a fuck about proper tolerances and using literal chinese metal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But that's still an assumption being made, which isn't a fair review. The common theme with these guns seems to be "roll the dice" but a $20 extractor replacement is a different problem versus a bolt that beats itself to death after <100 rounds.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is it an assumption when there is documented evidences and photos? Do you expect him to review a product completely bling going in?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The assumption being "I saw that a Turkenelli failed for X reason, so I'm going to assume it's the same reason"

            >Do you expect him to review a product completely bling going in?
            No, but I do expect him to actually REVIEW it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fair enough, but after so many videos abut turkshit shotguns shitting the bed I bet he probably thought that no one of his viewers would be genuinely interested in an indepth review of another potmetal failure.
              I'll agree that it would've been interesting to see what failed on his sample, but like 99% of the time it's always the crude gas system that eats itself out.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >No, but I do expect him to actually REVIEW it.
              how do you review a broken shotgun?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He beat the SMAX to death and opened up the Boss Hog to show the mechanical failure. With this one he just sort of gave up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I did but that's because those guns ran at first and then had issues. This one failed from the get go so there wasn't going to be any acute issue like with the other guns (e.g. slipped gas ring, which I think was the Boss Hog). We also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range. In any event this is just cope. The gun was brand new and it didn't run. If it's a five dollar issue or a five hundred dollar issue, it's still the fourth consecutive turkshit shotgun failure. You can blame me for not being thorough enough with the review but that's really just projecting your anger about this gun chugging massive penis. Also OP I know this is you from the last thread because of your weird stilted redditspaced English as a second language posts.
                Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did Carl Brugger say anything about selling the BWC in Europe? Considering it's just a chassis like a roni you could sell it over the counter no license/registration needed.
                If they end up producing it I hope it's not going to be a limited 1k run only for the US.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No and I'm really bad about asking about eurofag interests even though you guys make up 40 percent of our audience. I'll do better in the future anon, I'm sorry.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No worries

                What kind of guns can you even own in europe beside shotguns?

                Depends on the country. We all have different laws. Here in Italy beside no full auto (unless granfathered) and no 50 bmg and up we can own "almost" anything. Pic related would be an hunting rifle and a "common weapon". Still really shitty laws compared to most of the US.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that a PSL?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your mom bought my BWC in Tijuana

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What kind of guns can you even own in europe beside shotguns?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NERF

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                god dam that's a burn and a half

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I know this is you from the last thread because of your weird stilted redditspaced English as a second language posts.
                lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/TkTuVIC.jpg

                Yeah I did but that's because those guns ran at first and then had issues. This one failed from the get go so there wasn't going to be any acute issue like with the other guns (e.g. slipped gas ring, which I think was the Boss Hog). We also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range. In any event this is just cope. The gun was brand new and it didn't run. If it's a five dollar issue or a five hundred dollar issue, it's still the fourth consecutive turkshit shotgun failure. You can blame me for not being thorough enough with the review but that's really just projecting your anger about this gun chugging massive penis. Also OP I know this is you from the last thread because of your weird stilted redditspaced English as a second language posts.
                Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed

                >Perfect grammar means someone speaks English as a second language
                Retard

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                based, how's your 1301 holding up?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Great. It's like the Shawshank Redemption of guns because you can rec it to anyone and they'll like it. I've had some misses in reviews before but not that one.

                https://i.imgur.com/fKM1o89.jpg

                Neither was your mom

                fug got eem

                >Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed
                how old are you motherfucker? you look like 35 max

                thanks anon. I'll be 40 in a few months
                fucking forty

                >e also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range
                Why not keep the test environment consistent? Seems like you went into this test with a healthy amount of preexisting bias.

                Yes lab conditions to review a $399 shotgun. If I wanted to do that, I'd use the same ammo, same lube, same temperature outside/inside, same rate of fire. But I don't. Because I'm not testing how fast the car goes, I'm just seeing if the car can drive 500 miles without blowing up and killing its occupants. That's it. This isn't comparative per se, I'm just asking a gun to do a reasonable thing, and that is to work out of the box when new and to work for a very limited amount of time - 500 rounds.

                >shotguns will always fail forever if they fall on the ground once
                >why didn't you test it in sterile indoor conditions? then it would have cycled perfectly
                >you didn't oil it with the exact correct amound of perfectly formulated weapons lubricant? no wonder it jammed every second shot
                Big fucking COPERS. Cope harder, your gun fucking jams and it's a piece of shit. Stop trying to shill me. I owned a cheap semi-auto and remember the experience VIVIDLY. I am convinced that budget shotgun owners truly believe a jam every 25 rounds is "normal" and "reliable" and that higher-end shotguns jam just as often. They need to stop coping and invest in a better shotgun, or just shut the fuck up. If your gun cannot cycle at least 3 dram target loads 100% reliably it is a fucking turd, and your stupid tinkering is not solving the problem.

                anon gets it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes lab conditions to review a $399 shotgun
                You did it for the other ones.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lol why would I review a $400 turkshit shotgun in lab conditions
                >idk why did you do it for the other ones?
                >uh, uh...you're a retard!
                have a nice day at the earliest opportunity

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad he didn't do it with any of them? God now I know why poor people are poor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Too bad he didn't do it with any of them?
                Except he did, you fucking idiot. Try watching the videos in question before commenting, gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are literally insane sir

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SMAX: Indoor range w/gunsmith
                Boss Hog: Indoor range w/gunsmith
                Maverick: Indoor range w/gunsmith

                >hE DiDn't Do It WiTh The OtHeRs
                fuck off

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He shot them in an indoor range with a gunsmith for three of the 7 or 8 videos and two of those failed anyways
                >yeah so what's your point here
                >nothing I'm just really reaching for a big ol chaw of cope while I stare at my TAC 12 in the corner

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My TAC 12 runs fine, actually.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can confirm. All the 6 rounds I ran thru it worked

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So light rain is enough to disable a turkish shotgun?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes but as I said that wasn't fair because he did not test the other guns in precipitation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The 940 was put under LESS ideal conditions than the Turkshit. He was feeding it fucking antique ammo to fuck with it on purpose.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                holy fuck
                my sides

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lol why would I review a $400 turkshit shotgun in lab conditions
                >idk why did you do it for the other ones?
                >uh, uh...you're a retard!
                have a nice day at the earliest opportunity

                Jesus christ guy, what are you on about
                Prior reviews:
                >sometimes random 20+ year old ammo, sometimes all new production ammo, all different loadings and grab bag of manufacturers
                >sometimes at an indoor shooting range (Citadel, Boss Hog, Maverick), sometimes outdoors (1301, Turknelli, Mossberg 940, VEPR12), sometimes both (HS104T)
                >Never lubed
                Then again I'm not going to guess what passes as lab conditions in Turkey. That said, the objective is easy - fire 500 rounds without taking a shit. Not shockingly, no Turkish guns have passed this test, no matter how it was administered, where, or with what. Also interesting, the *only* guns that have failed have been Turkish. Even the cheapest US made shotgun passed. Just give up already, please.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Beretta 1301 (Italy)
                > Pass
                Molot VEPR-12 (Russia)
                > Pass
                Mossberg 940 (US)
                > Pass
                Mossberg Maverick 88 *Pump* (US)
                > Pass
                SDS Imports TAC-12 (Turkey)
                > Fail
                Adler Arms HS104T *Pump* (Turkey)
                > Fail
                Citadel Boss Hog (Turkey)
                > Fail
                Black Aces S-Max (Turkey)
                > Fail

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also Miami sucks, I ND'd a revolver in my dad's office when I was 14, got my FFL in 2004, and I won GSSF in southeast Louisiana in 2008 so I was doing this when your dad was busting the nut your mom should have swallowed
                how old are you motherfucker? you look like 35 max

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >e also shot those at the range with a full gunsmith bench instead of at the outdoor range
                Why not keep the test environment consistent? Seems like you went into this test with a healthy amount of preexisting bias.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No amount of pre existing bias or lack thereof would have made that roach malfunction training device work.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >roach malfunction training device

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hey James miss u bb much love ty for lurkin very grateful you put up with the gays here to bring us lulz.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                can u review the baikal mp153? i want it because of tarkov but they dont import it anymore so maybe its not worth it idk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shave that shit off your face. You think it makes you look masculine but it actually makes you look more queer than you already are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll let Ryan know but he sits to pee and his wife is an 11/10 big boobie Russian so I don't think he cares what you think about his face anon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, please send pics of Ryan's wife's tits asap, thanks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WHY

      Exactly. That's what separates gun guys from gun tourists. Boomers like pic related are just old tourists going off some Gun Bible they got in the 70's

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WHY the gun is failing.
      Whats the fucking point for a 300 dollar turkshit gun?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        uh, what? if the issue is 40 minutes with some sandpaper to smooth something out, why the fuck wouldnt you want to know and do it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          See

          To be fair this turknelli would've failed even with those precautions. You can't have a firearm with such a crude copy of the original gas system function.

          and

          https://i.imgur.com/WGZjB1o.jpg

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nothing, I thought I was talking to a individual with an IQ above room temperature. My bad, carry on.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay. make sure to list it cheap so i can buy it cheap, fix it for less then 5 bucks and turn it around

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao you're a malding roach

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay. make sure to return it within its return period i can put it back on the shelves and sell it again

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >selling a defective product that can't be fixed
                Do turks really?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cant be fixed
                yep. cant be fixed, literally impossible. no one has ever replaced a part on a gun, ever. sir we also have a 30% restocking fee, we will take that out of the refund.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show me how you fix something like

                https://i.imgur.com/WGZjB1o.jpg

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                heat it up with an oxy acetylene torch and bend it back

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shoot 10 rounds
                >bend it back with torch
                >rinse repeat every 10 rounds
                The marvels of turkish engeneering

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, how do you fix shit turkish steel that deforms both the bolt head and the gas rods? in 30 rounds

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dunno. id have to do some googling, see if other people have had issues, how they fixed the issues, how it worked after the issues. check if parts are replaceable in the first place, so on, so fourth. i dont have the shotgun, so this is a little hard to do. also , cant ignore the possibility the owner caused the damage from improper disassembly.
                it might be worth it, might not be.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God damn you're retarded

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If any gun doesn't work flawlessly from the factory it isn't worth a second glance, let alone a fucking investigation.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks god I bought an sp5. The t94 is shit just like any other turkshit gun

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >do I listen to any person that is a paid shill
    No, no I don't.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hes a spoiled garden gnome. Anyone no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a cunt

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hes a spoiled garden gnome. Anyone no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a cunt

      >do I listen to any person that is a paid shill
      No, no I don't.

      >do I listen to any person that is a paid shill
      >No, no I don't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The guntoober internet defense force is here.
        So here's the thing, I'm just not gonna watch your serotonin addled zoomer videos.
        I know
        I know
        I'm just not gonna waste my time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but you'll sit here and whine about it, after having watched it.

          lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no matter what weapon junk or not that throws it into the soil is a cunt
      A gun is supposed to shoot. That roach thing he threw can't shoot. Therefore it's not a gun.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YEAH BUT HES GOING TO SELL IT TO SOME IDIOT AND LAUGH THAT HE THREW IT AND MADE MONEY

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >YEAH BUT HES GOING TO SELL IT TO SOME IDIOT AND LAUGH THAT HE THREW IT AND MADE MONEY

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought the whole purpose of the M4's gas system was to shoot basically any load?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some benelli m4 have trouble cycling light target loads when they are new.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The benneli was not designed for light loads.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Neither was your mom

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shotguns will always fail forever if they fall on the ground once
    >why didn't you test it in sterile indoor conditions? then it would have cycled perfectly
    >you didn't oil it with the exact correct amound of perfectly formulated weapons lubricant? no wonder it jammed every second shot
    Big fucking COPERS. Cope harder, your gun fucking jams and it's a piece of shit. Stop trying to shill me. I owned a cheap semi-auto and remember the experience VIVIDLY. I am convinced that budget shotgun owners truly believe a jam every 25 rounds is "normal" and "reliable" and that higher-end shotguns jam just as often. They need to stop coping and invest in a better shotgun, or just shut the fuck up. If your gun cannot cycle at least 3 dram target loads 100% reliably it is a fucking turd, and your stupid tinkering is not solving the problem.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair this turknelli would've failed even with those precautions. You can't have a firearm with such a crude copy of the original gas system function.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just remember, the reason you're poor is because you're stupid.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe this thread can help me? Years and years ago there was video going around PrepHole of some russian (?) testing what I think were turk shotguns. Mag-fed ones. They all failed, cracked receivers, mags stuck, jams up the fucking wazoo. Does this ring a bell? The guns were all dark tan and black.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's easy bro just do all the metallurgy yourself, I do it all the time

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just like fudds will shoot 20 rounds max per year and call their gun reliable, I'm sure after this thread that poorfags unironically never shoot their guns and call them reliable

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a Winchester a while back that was Turk made. Brand new. Constant hang fires right out of the box. Rusted like a new Remington within 6 months in a dehumidified safe. I think there was a recall put out on them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dehumidified safe
      How does that work?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    James can you unironically review the M3000 so we can have another one of these threads?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but t b h I think it really will be the turkshit combo breaker. Then again everyone said that about the TAC12 and it ended up being the biggest hunk of shit on the channel so far except maybe the HS104T. The S- Max and Boss Hog at least worked for a little while

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bulge

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd hope so. If even the italians can't make the turks shit out a "decent" shotgun then no one can.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same. I hope it does work. I don't have an anti-Turkish agenda per se but I do think that the influx of shitty Turkish shotguns that keep changing importers, make, and model but are the same gun or slightly different does border on actual deceitful, criminal activity. It pisses me off because I remember being a little 18 year old fuck like half of you and saving up money to buy a cool gun, being stoked to take it to the range. How disappointing to get there after blowing a couple weeks of server tipouts from bussing tables and the fucking thing doesn't work, and then you have to do the hokie pokie to get repair service.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >saving up money to buy a cool gun, being stoked to take it to the range. How disappointing to get there after blowing a couple weeks of server tipouts from bussing tables and the fucking thing doesn't work, and then you have to do the hokie pokie to get repair service.
            Happened to a friend of mine with a pump Hatsan, except the company refused to honor the warranty so the gun store just gave him his money back.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly probably the best possible outcome for him

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Which model?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hatsan escort something something. It was the one with the semi folding stock and the 14in barrel. Couldn't have been more than 300 euro.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >influx of shitty Turkish shotguns that keep changing importers, make, and model but are the same gun or slightly different does border on actual deceitful, criminal activity.
            For real. It's all just to create confusion in customers.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the M4 has issues cycling light ammo
    Yes but if TFB points that out all of the Benelli fanboys will pitch a fit and some will unsubscribe. At the end of the day TFB TV is a buisness and what is bad for profits is to be avoided. Don't blame them, blame their comsumers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      - t. guy who has no idea how tfbtv works

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon if you can't figure out basic concepts such as why a youtube channel wouldn't want to lose subscribers I can't help you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mine doesn't. It's an issue only when the gun is new and goes away after 50 rounds.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We already had the thread retard, stop making it again. You got blown out the first time. He cycled hot loads, and even hot sporting shot. It cycled none of it.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about [opinion] of [youtube celebrity]
    lmao, shoot it yourself and see if you like it.

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