Wow only 9 point blank shots to take down a dude that's 90 pounds soaking wet? This is the weapon I wanna trust MY life with.
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Wow only 9 point blank shots to take down a dude that's 90 pounds soaking wet? This is the weapon I wanna trust MY life with.
Fuck having 9mm, better to choose .+p 45acp or a +p 10mm. If caliber truly doesn't matter and shot placement does, then why is nearly every video where 9mm is used require half a magazine to an entire magazine to drop somebody.
The officer never explains to the suspect in great detail why the 9mm is powerful enough with modern bullets, educating the wounded on why they should be incapacitated.
So full power 10mm?
can i see yours?
on paper it really shouldnt be a big difference between the two. theres guys still fighting after 9 rounds from a 556 rifle nevermind a 45 acp
M855 performance on goatfuckers really doesn’t mean much because .223 rounds that don’t fragment or expand cause anemic damage to elastic tissues. M855 has a habit of being inconsistent about the former and it doesn’t do the latter by design. If someone kept going after taking multiple rounds of 77 gr TMK that would be another story.
There’s plenty of literature on this, dumbass
Maybe it should have been fired out of a rifle with a rifle length barrel instead of an 11.5" oversized pistol.
>14 rounds of fuddy-five
>ignores the hundreds of videos on PoliceActivity of nignogs getting dropped by 1 shot
I wonder how long it will take for retards to learn that non-meme pistol rounds are all the same.
>people are still arguing about how non-instant CNS stopping shots don’t magically blow people back 10 feet in the air
>why is nearly every video where 9mm is used require half a magazine to an entire magazine to drop somebody
The first or second bullet probably dropped him, the 5 shots after that are just insurance
The switch to 9mm was not the amazing choice gun purchase enthusiasts claim it was. Police agencies did it mostly to save money and to qualify more people (women and manlets). We as purchase enthusiasts and larpers choose 9mm because we mostly concealed carry, we don't need a duty round we need am emergency round, and 9mm fits into small guns without having too much recoil. .40 was indeed a better duty round, not by much but still better. The problem was they crammed a 10mm into a 9mm case length so they could still use the same size guns (10mm requires a bigger frame to fit). Realistically they should've just switched to 10mm, but that sucker has some beefy recoil so it's not going to happen. Lots of people are shilling 5.7 now to, but it will never be a duty round as it lacks the mass to not unpredictably deflect through light barriers such as car doors and windshields.
9mm is mostly a cope but obviously it works. You HAVE to get good shot placement and probably want to put at least 2 shots in him. You get low recoil, access to smaller guns, and extra rounds, but it's not a full fledged manstopper. It's a lowest common denominator. If you can handle the recoil get a 10mm, get what cops SHOULD carry not what they do carry because they have to appease their budget and female officers.
The only handgun rounds I bother with are:
>.380 because it's common, plenty of pocket carry mouseguns in this caliber. It's the absolute lowest you should go and still expect to kill a human with a reasonable amount of effort on your part (shot placement, follow up shots). Only works well at super close range and with specialty ammo like Xtreme Penetrators.
>9mm because it's a good all around, I said good not great. Tons of choices to choose from chambered in 9mm from concealed carry guns to duty sized guns. Ammo is cheap, great to train with, and will kill a man with reasonable skills on the shooter's part.
>10mm because fuck you nothing can stop it. This is my bear gun and so help me God elk gun if one of those suckers decides to attack me. Also pulls home defense and winter carry.
Nothing else is needed, no other fake and gay roles need to be filled. Most of you don't bother having a date gun or family gathering gun so you can skip needing a pocket carry. Some of you don't need a bear gun and don't use handguns for HD so maybe you don't need 10mm. 9mm should suffice and as stated it depends on the skills of the shooter whether his shoot is successful or not. 9mm will work, but if you're not confident go 10mm unless you can't handle the recoil or need a smaller frame, then go with one of the niche wonder rounds.
9mm was enough before meth zombies became a thing.
Meth zombies are what made 9mm service pistols happen. Before that, it was the "hometown sheriff" tan shirt and revolver vibe, and when the gangers on drugs showed up in the 70s, so many fucking cops died that they went and did the whole "muh peacetime occupying army" thing, because that was the only way to reliably take down an angry moron high out of his mind.
meth zombies are insane.
Since meth heads are the closest thing to real zombies does this mean 9mm would be shit in a zombie apocalypse?
Similarly to zombies, you gotta hit em in the dome, as exemplified in OP's video
9mm will do just fine for most cases, although I must admit I'd rather face a big bro on PCP with a .357 Magnum than a 9mm.
Paramedics when the cop turns up "Ahh finally some one who can legally kill this guy"
You type like zoomer moron. Post guns.
Just use a fucking deagle
>Waaaah, .50AE expensive!
How much is your life worth?
>B-B-But muh recoil!
You don't need a followup shot if you blew his fucking head off.
>It can jam!
It's a gun, they jam sometimes, stop using under powered/cheapass cartridges and it'll cycle correctly
>But muh capacity!
If it needs more than 7 rounds of .50AE, you weren't going to kill it to begin with.
>But muh niche/underpowered round!
Don't give a shit, it's less powerful than .50AE, if you're targets on meth, they're not going to give a shit either unless you mulch their brain or pop their heart
>But muh size!
Appendix carry, if someone asks, just say that's your dick
There you go gays, the ANSWER to the ".45 vs 9mm" argument, a fucking deagle, because picking anything less than the nuclear option is for prissy gays.
Take a seat, boy.
>You need at least a .50AE to kill someone with one shot
>Also make sure to aim for the head so it definitely works instantly, ok?
So is your position that a single 9mm hollow point to the head is not instantly fatal?
> You don't need a followup
YOU can’t aim so getting a gun with no follow up means you die while the guy with a 380 doesn’t
You might as well a sawed off shotgun since the wide spread will fuck him up even with aim as terrible as yours and it had similar follow up potential
Found your video btw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f09xmJSZ-3c
I'm literally too poor to afford one. I'd rather a g40
Go .429DE if you want stoppin powa. 210gr JHP @ 1750 fps is going to put more of that energy into the target, as opposed to .50AE which only imparts like half of its energy into a man-sized target.
literally me but with .357 magnum or .44 magnum
that shot to the head ended him instantly, I think
you ever seen that video of the zebra with it's entire rear guts torn open by a croc?
>you ever seen that video of the zebra with it's entire rear guts torn open by a croc?
Jamie pull that up
>you ever seen that video of the zebra with it's entire rear guts torn open by a croc?
No Joe but I did see the one of the horse being disemboweled by a bull. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug and meth even more so.
is.. is he alright?
His struggles are over, anon. Try not to be too jealous
Jesus Christ. None of the Vatnik drone vids I've seen have made me feel sick like this. Not even the suicide ones or the one where the drone blows his abdomen open.
>Something something vatniks less than human BASED BASED BASED
sorry, there's no shills or wartourists to give the 7 (you)s (you) were looking for
NTA but holy shit you are malding at a 10 hour old post
Nothing good on twitch right now so you're here?
Damn bro, chill. I'm not saying the life of a vatnik is worth less than a zebra's or whatever. I just feel awful for the Zebra because there isn't any way for him to end his own misery and it's not like he's gonna go to the hospital and get patched up. All that waits for him is a slow agonizing death.
It's the fact its lick its organs trying to push them back in that makes it bad.
I think it's trying to rip them off. Zebra sees something it's not familiar with latched onto its body.
In all fairness, most of the digestive system can't feel pain. The big thing with damaging the upper torso is that you have a massively improved chance of disabling nerves that control extremities.
for some reason I thought this was a cutscene from MGS
>six shots, more than enough to kill anything that moves
>except a crackhead from California
>only 9 point blank shots
And how many of those actually hit, let alone hit anything seriously vital? 2 of those shots appear to have been fired when the perp was facing away from the cop while he was falling over, but there's no blood on his back when he's rolling on the ground or when he gets back up and goes at the cop again.
The trick is that you actually have to hit with those shots. Flash and noise isn't what stops a crackhead.
Handgun rounds are technically not “ all equal” if you compare apples to apples but 9mm will generally get it done if you shoot well, and if you don’t shoot well then caliber isn’t likely to matter much. Anecdotally several officers have reported that they don’t have any failures to stop with good ammo at their departments when the cops can actually get their shit together and aim properly.
This: . Looking at the blood on the guy, it looks like only a couple of rounds hit. I wouldn't be surprised if the cop only landed 3 or 4 of those 9 shots, with maybe one finding its way to center of mass and the head shot that ended the fight.
The guy already had blood on him from cutting himself. It’s near impossible to tell how much is even from the bullets.
looks like he was just hit in the arm or shoulder so maybe 1 or 2
>can't subdue a hysteric skinny dude who has been shot several times
mfer was high on mushrooms and you have no what can it do even for a skinny fuck like him
Mushrooms don't give you adrenaline, they make you lazy like a sloth.
>t. somebody who's never experienced psychosis
his colleagues are just a few meter away. even the 'ol amoeba attack would work here
As someone thats dabbled in some things, theres maybe 2 drugs that will force multiply someones Retard Strength/Fortitude attributes and thats Meth and PCP/Sherm. Maybe, mayybe in rare cases Alchohol or Roids. Otherwise Acid, Shrooms, research chems, and even Coke and Heroin will not make someone a savage that tanks gunshots and pepper spray who isnt already that way sober. In fact alot of them make your nerves feel more sensitive, esp Shrooms.
Its not thre drugs that make people tanks, its the brains reaction to them. the actual chemicals that make people bullet sponges are already in the brain. even a completely sober person can behave like this.
As a Eurocop in the drug district, you're fucking retarded.
If your cops wouldn't have been cucked out of hand to hand combat by cases like the Rodney King beating they would still wrestle unarmed tards instead of shooting them.
I have to wrestle crackheads on the weekly to put them in cuffs and throw them into a cell until they stop masturbating infront of schoolchildren.
No, the district attorney doesn't think it's worth it to arrest a crackhead or even to press charges until his file is big enough.
And then they get a minimum sentence because drug addiction is a mental health issue.
Fuck that shit.
I hope you stomp em in the nuts so they can’t reproduce
>DONT DO THIS TO ME I AM PREGNANT
Is the absolute standard sentence any crackhead woman will throw at you when you shove her out of the supermarket for pissing next to the registers.
None of them are actually pregnant.
Heavy drug and alcohol use thankfully results in miscarriages in the large majority of pregnancies.
I support police killing drug users on sight
Imao go get fucked eurocuck. In here if those mofos come at you with a knife, they get ventilated. Simple. I am glad your piss poor country doesn't even allows it's police force to even use a nail clipper
I carry a full giggle MP5 on patrol, not every Eurocountry is Great Cuckdom
There's plenty of old Soviet and even cold war NATO or neutral country guns going all around Europe. Just cause there's less mentally ill people doesn't change that people are definitely not armed with illegally attained weapons.
doesn't change that people are armed*
Albeit, they are mostly from organized crime in that case. Usually connected to middle eastern gays in one way or another, or Italian mafia.
If he's from the best parts of Europe, he could very well be part of the actual military even.
You Americans are retarded, you think everything in the world will enhance a man to become a lethal threat except private gun owner ship, just to excuse your outnof shape cops running to their guns for every situation because they're so physically inept.
What. A complete disconnect from reality will make someone more dangerous & unpredictable. Part of getting shot is realizing that you were shot. If the pain/shock fails you're forced to destroy the the body to prevent it from working. Even destroying the heart with a fitty cawl in extreme circumstances will give precious seconds of stabbin' time before they collapse.
Did you geniuses not notice he had a knife and was trying to grab the police's gun?
I really do not care that a white trash moron is dead
Award this cop
Shut up crooksucker.
>GIMMIE YOUR GUN YOU moron !
>you a bitch-ack
It's amazing how some people have no regard for their life. I would shit myself if a cop pointed a gun at me and then I would comply
>picrel slaps your girl's ass
this has got to be staged. It's just so unreal and cringe.
people have said its her brother rather than boyfriend
Newton's third breaks his arm upon contact.
You mean newtons second law
asked for his gun but got a bullet to the dome instead
>posting a yt link that requires you to send ID to garden gnomegle
>not posting a webm
You have to go back
>use burner/alt email
>give fake names and info
>say you're 21
Webm is proper etiquette, but don't pretend you're giving your SSN to Google to watch Youtube videos.
No you have to give them an ID or credit card to confirm your age, you inbred mongoloid
>he doesn't have the bypass installed
Imma do you a solid here anon.
Download the Tampermonkey extension for your browser, and then visit Greasyfork and download the Simple YouTube Age Restriction Bypass.
Thanks and have fun!
Weird how shot placement is still king
Return home, white man. 357 Magnum and the pain goes away.
>implying that any pistol caliber short of a magnum round will kill someone outright from a centre mass shot.
There is no such thing as a 'manstopper round' the only thing you can do with a pistol (regardless of caliber) is to perforate the body so god damned much that the organs fail.
>knows the guy is hallucinating
>Sir, come sit over here please.
>he starts walking over
>BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
>wallbangs the guy that he told to get back inside his apartment and close the door only moments before as well
its hilarious that family members actually call the police to help them with their mentally ill family members then get surprised when the cops just shoot them.
when will Americans learn that calling the cops on mentally ill people is gonna end up with someone getting riddled with bullets?
This happens so much, that it makes me wonder if Americans are deliberately doing this to watch mentally ill people get killed.
>mentally ill people
half the time not even that.
A family friend got the cops called on him by a neighbor that hated him. She just lied and said that he was a heroine dealer that had a lot of stuff in his house so they would do a raid. They shot his dog, his wife, then him.
Why do you lie on the internet anon?
have a nice day.
those two are very clearly heroine dealers. look at their jowels
iirc the dipshit HPD cops actually got the wrong address in this case. But they brought drugs to the scene (you know, just in case they didn't find any in the home) and they mowed down the wife even though she was unarmed. I believe that the husband had a 357 as his only means of self defense, so he did about as well as you can when ambushed like that. Poor guy.
>Four police officers were shot during the raid, leaving one paralyzed
>“At the end of the day, we’ll see where the facts land.”
>“I have said many times that the other officers involved in the incident, including the officer indicted today, had no involvement in obtaining the warrant and responded appropriately to the deadly threat posed to them during its service"
When narcotics officers breached the front door of the home, gunfire erupted almost immediately.
One suspect retreated to the back of a room and re-emerged, returning fire, police said. The second was shot while trying to wrestle a shotgun away from an officer, they said. Both suspects were killed.
Officers found marijuana, five guns and a white powder believed to be cocaine or the painkiller fentanyl, Acevedo said after the raid
That said, NO KNOCK raids are fucking retarded and get people killed.
>One suspect retreated to the back of a room and re-emerged, returning fire, police said. The second was shot while trying to wrestle a shotgun away from an officer, they said.
I'd like to point out that later analysis determined that he likely didn't return fire and all the cops were hit by friendly fire.
...I need a gun to fight the tyranny of the government...so I can not use it...
With a .357? moron be real, not everybody is a threeper, some people just want a gun for self defense from non jack booted thugs, never considering that the ones who are will kill him because they got the wrong house.
Considering the house was full of guns and drugs, not practicing with them was an exceedingly poor choice
Oh my B, I thought this was about that case where the cops in NM killed that couple because they went to the wrong house.
Druggies gonna druggy, I don't think they had any aspirations of overthrowing the govt because drug dealers are cowards who prey on the sick and mentally ill.
His name was Dennis Tuttle!
You should contact the family and huston pd immediately with this information. They can surely subpoena phone records to prove your claim beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Anon should have posted the better source.
Jesus christ, what a freak show.
>indirectly kill 2 people on purpose
>not even 4 years in jail
this shit makes my blood boil
Put yourself in the shoes of whoever's responsible for emergency services, they've tried over the years to minimize police responses to wellness calls. For their troubles the city tends to lose an EMT who gets a machete or knife to the throat and goddamn dies. Then you get EMT's quitting en mass because they can't be kept safe. So now we send cops, and if the municipality, the state and society at large has to start doing utilitarian math on who dies during drug wellness calls, then it's a pretty easy decision that it should be the drug addict.
>killing the violent mentally ill on purpose
Are Americans actually based as fuck? We should start doing that globally?
Are you implying we *shouldn't* be doing this? Fuck the mentally ill and fuck the violently mentally ill even moreso.
>AYO POLEECE I NEEDS YA HELP MY SCHIZO BOYFRIEND IS ACTIVELY TRYNA KILL PEOPLE WITH A CHEF'S KNIFE YA GOTS TO HELP ME
>police show up
>schizo charges with a knife
>NOOOOOOO OMG WHYD YOU SHOOTS MAH BOYFRIEND HE WAS A GUD BOI HE WASNT A DANGER AT ALL HE DINDU NUFFIN ALL HE WANTED WAS SOME HELP YOU SHOULDA JUST LET HIM KEEP STABBING PEOPLE
Just because your police let child rape gangs go unpunished doesn't mean every other nation needs to follow suite. Duarte is unironically the greatest leader in the modern day and more countries should adopt his policies.
I know you're not actually using your brain here, but people in these mental states are not like that the vast majority of the time.
It's an acute chemical imbalance because they forgot to fill a prescription and tried to cope with a recreational drug or something along those lines.
Cope, schizo druggy
If the only thing preventing you from becoming a kife weidling manaic is a bottle of fucking pills you shouldnt be allowed in broader society.
Maybe the real evil people are the fully able bodied who extort these people and make it hard for them to get those pills reliably.
They murder on a statistical scale for cash.
>cant control himself with "his pills, man, juet need my pils, man"
>blames others for his own lack of self control
You're both right
Blame the ACLgarden gnome and Justice Warren Burger for deciding O'Conner v. Donaldson. That was the court case that basically made it illegal for the states to institutionalize crazies. Everyone blames Reagan for defunding the asylums but he only defunded tham after garden gnomes made them mostly illegal.
Cops are the mentally ill ones.
Does an under developed frontal cortex or drug abuse really count as a mental illness?
What else are we supposed to do now that there aren't any lunatic asylums anymore?
Cringe headline, the fact that it was a Blackid is irrelevant, this shit happens to everyone.
But yes cops are tax funded hitmen.
Kek yeah but the guy that got shot here was the one who called them. He called 911 and said: "I need a paramedic, I'm not doin too good"
>and nothing of value was lost
>no more medical bills
A win-win situation.
>stop my invincible son
>give me your knife!
>give me your gun, you a moron
famous last words
I've seen 120lb Afghans take half a dozen 556 rounds and still not die. I've personally shot someone in the torso four times and he was able to run half a block before he died.
Dude is obviously beezin', but OP ain't wrong. Not just 9mm though. All pistol calibers suck - some just suck less.
We should bomb the cartels and kill all morons.
Why do we have threads like this every day? Yes you have to hit a vital organ to completely incapacitate someone, when a crazed lunatic is flailing at you you're likelihood of having a well placed shot goes down.
Hmm, you're pretty good
the officer studied his Gunkata
Congratulations, you made the groundbreaking discovery that handgun rounds suck at rapid incapacitation.
This is thread number 4,671,934 we have had on it, to date.
Much more likely that he made the discovery that cops are terrible shots. Handgun rounds would work far better if they could actually aim.
Jesus Christ. Y'all need to make some proper mental health institutions for the terminally mentally ill, and you need to give your officers some plexiglass shields or some shit. It's one thing for Joe Shmoe to ventilate the local crack addict trying to stab him, but it's another to respond to a dude's own 911 call and splatter him over the steps of a motel. What a shitshow.
>Y'all need to make some proper mental health institutions for the terminally mentally ill
>When ~~*they*~~ would rather have an entire generation of drug-addled schizos and trannies than actually help people
Sad, many such cases
Oh don't get me wrong, old asylums and sanatoriums were cartoonishly evil, ripe with abuse, neglect, and political fuckery. But methinks the answer was third party oversight and more stringent due process, not complete and utter scrapping and release of the terminally deranged. Sad!
We used to until king boomer, Reagan shut them all down
Why people worship that antigun retard is beyond me
His foreign policy game was top notch.
>become butt buddies with communists
As much as I like to shit on Reagan, the media made public opinion turn against mental institutions due to their exposes on the lack of conditions and even abuse. The concept of being involuntarily committed and no way to convince anyone you're mentally well and need to be checked out is the kind of stuff nightmares are made of.
Yeah those places back then were simply not helping whatsoever.
I agree with this guy
Shutting them down is like if the fed shut down nursing homes because old people get pillowed on occasion. What we needed, and still need, are reform
>The concept of being involuntarily committed and no way to convince anyone you're mentally well and need to be checked out is the kind of stuff nightmares are made of.
So is being unable to do anything but watch as a relative or friend descends into madness, while being impossible to institutionalize before they actually hurt someone.
>impossible to institutionalize before they actually hurt someone
While I agree that institutionalization is needed, it's the old "dangerous freedom vs peaceful slavery". I'd err on the side of caution to let good people go free even if it comes at a cost of a few people getting hurt to get the legal justification to lock them up.
Heres the thing; we dont institutionalize ANY crazy people after the aclu et al motte and bailey’d everyone with your bullshit argument
You sound crazy anon, we'll have to confiscate you guns and lock you up, good thing we caught you insanity in time before you hut someone 😉
The real root cause of shutting down mental asylums was 1960s counter-culture making mental illness a question of relativism and a question of people just being "different" and "non-conformist", remember One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
Poasting in a /int/ thread.
He wasn't crazy, in most cases like this he was high.
You mean indian facial features?
Ok now this is a proper shitpost.
>video shows importance of shot placement
>HURR DURR IT JUST MEANS I NEED A SLIGHLY BIGGER BOOLET, LEARNING2AIM IS FOR SISSIES
Fudds, fudds never change
oh, here we go, with the brainlets screeching
>MENTAL HEALTH, MUH INSTITUTIONS
itt. Some people are NORMAL, but still profligates, addicts and cunts. The 90IQ thug wailing on some elderly man in the subway is sane, he's just an evil bitch.
In this case what you got is prob a drug user going through an episode. Not someone destitute from being too dysfunctional to live normally.
>unironically uses the word profligate
That should tell you all you need to know about this poster
That I am ESL. Which makes me stand out in the backdrop of monolingual mongoloids such as yourself
>nuuoooh, you can't use this word, we don't use that at my high school! Muh sounding local in English is super important!
Stick it in your perm.
>Which makes me stand out in the backdrop of monolingual mongoloids such as yourself
Holy cope LOL
Nah, it just tells me you played FNV and you vibed with the Legion because you're a permavirgin 4chanmoron who gets hard at the thought of policing people's lives for "degeneracy".
>t. another ESL
holosun 508t in it's glory
holochads we are so back
Thread derailed by Superga, sigh current PrepHole is miserable, where did the normal people go? Discord?
>but 9mm is effe-
>muh FBI protocol
The 9mm fanbois don't care, they only care about cost and putting holes through paper, they'll regret that decision when a junkie decides that their chest cavity is full of meth/fentanyl and they are going to use a box cutter to get it out.
45 tests more poorly than 9mm per feds
9mm hollow has bigger wound cavities and better penetration
45 is a meme
What would you do if after high on a trip and not remembering anything, you suddenly hit with a glimpse of clarity from pain and realize that you have 6 bullet holes all over your torso and a smug police officer with Mexican facial features is standing above you and speaking to you with patronizing voice?
Why do cops not carry shields?
Like if this cop had a big-ass shield, there's nothing the suicidal guy could do to him. Literally just push him over and press him to the ground with the shield.
It just seems like shooting suicidal people is counter-productive.
Ngl that would be pretty cool
Us cops are virtually inmune to murder charges so they do whatever.
All boots are wannabe and actual murderers. They'll take any excuse they can to murder anyone.
>another terrible caliber “debate” thread
ITT: Schizos demanding the mentally ill are shot on sight.
people.on PrepHole just want cops to do all the things theyre too scared to do.
As sad as this death is at least NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. So this person is literally in paradise now.
Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:
It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:
>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."
Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.
Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:
>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."
Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.
>"professor" of "psychology"
Oh, so fucking nothing, then. Anyway have a nice day and tell us how it goes. Or don't.
Why do you spam this on every board?
He was recently struck by the revelation that there's nothing after and is trying to cope with it.
I wonder if it's the same guy from like a decade ago, someone else who nearly died and had a revelation. He will get over it, millions of people do and get over
Man, I hope his neighbors were no where near that front facing wall. You know they got some fresh air vents just then.
why did the cop stop shooting ?
maybe the dude with the glasses was just pretending to be dead, I would still be shooting all my bullets in his mouth and his eyeballs and then I would use his own knife to neutralize him with tactical stabs and beheadings, you need to separate the head from the rest of the body, only way to be sure the threat is 100% neutralized
>and then I would use his own knife to neutralize him with tactical stabs and beheadings, you need to separate the head from the rest of the body, only way to be sure the threat is 100% neutralized
at least one of the posts you're applying to is agreeing with you, schizo-kun.
>shot an illegal Hispanic mugger with .357
>literally took one bullet to incapacitate him
>died before EMT arrived
Nam tunnel rat footage colorized
>DROP THE FUCKING KNIFE CHARLIE
>Unload whole mag
>NOO YOU GIVE ME GUN GIII
This guy didn't need to be killed 100%. The police could have beaten him with their batons, knocked the knife out of his hand and hauled him to jail. People like this are practically never shot here in Eastern Europe.
>This guy didn't need to be killed 100%. The police could have beaten him with their batons, knocked the knife out of his hand and hauled him to jail.
Take the meth zombie to jail and deal with the inevitable drain on resources that him being alive will ultimately cause or pop him in the head with a 9mm and call it a day? That sure is a tough one, anon....
>Don't you want to be like eastern europe?!
>aiming for center of mass at point blank range
Just shoot em in the head
>but... but you can't do that, you'll miss
Git gud gay
Why don't cops have fucking staves or something for dealing with this kind of extremely common situation (crazy guy with knife)? It is not hard to knock somebody out with a long stick. Then again
>just knock him out bro
You people are so disassociated that I am shocked you can even use the internet
>OH NO A GUY IS SLOWLY WALKING TOWARDS ME AHHHH BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM (9 shots lmao)
Go grab one of your friends, give him some hockey pads and a stick. Then go tell me how easy it is to get close. Oh yeah, then do it while hallucinating on a bunch of drugs.
This. If we had footage of a 90 pound wet rag tanking multiple point blank gunshot wounds and still attempting to wrestle a gun away, then my mind might change
That's what I'm saying though. If the cop just had a fucking stick like
the guy could never get close enough to grapple for the gun. As it stands the cop could have gotten himself killed by being (1) retarded and (2) a shit shot
Someone still has to fucking get within stab range unless you want the neighborhood to hold him there until he dies of exposure. Admittedly that would be based
Because clubbing someone unconcious has never killed anyone. Fucking how old are you?
>beating him with billyclubs might kill him so we should shoot him 18 times instead.
great logic you retard. beanbags, tasers and rubber bullets kill people too but they are still less lethal than 9mm.
>but they are still less lethal than 9mm.
... You sure about that?
Am I sure if a rubber rifle bullet is less lethal than a 9mm JHP?
well thats the whole point. They are only potentially fatal if they hit you directly in the head without ricocheting. This isn't supposed to happen but it can either accidentally or on purpose. A real bullet doesn't have that margin of safety.
The same is largely true for beating suspects. Any time you are knocked out you suffer CTE to some degree but life changing injuries are the exception not the rule even in the worse conditions like getting knocked out onto tarmac in a stripclub parking lot brawl or getting sapped in the back of the head by a nightstick.
I was mostly kidding, that said, garden gnomes in israel apparently believe that .22 is "less than lethal"
The early generation rubber bullets were almost that shady especially from 7.62 rifles since they had a full powder load and couldn't even be fire directly and had to bounce first. Obviously a lot of soldiers in the 70s/80s just ignored that and started blasting into crowds.
Lot people walking around Belfast and Beirut slurring their words like Joe Frazier because of that.
That's exactly what civilized police forces do.
Confine the suspect, wait for specialized back up, subdue the suspect.
Don't have mass media show pictures of the badly bruised suspect to the broad public resulting in absolute outrage.
US cops are cucked out of using physical violence because bleeding hearts can't handle seeing it.
It's insane how US cops just tase when they could have used a joint lock or a lever.
In other civilized countries that is not America, cops actually do utilize non-lethal solutions.
But in Freedom Flag country, anyone can easily be packing heat. So Murican cops are so paranoid that they always resort to hot lead at the drop of hat once they start sensing trouble.
And yes, Japan cops got man-catchers.
I'm sure a man catcher would have helped Shinzo not get splattered all over the walls huh?
>In other civilized countries that is not America, cops actually do utilize non-lethal solutions.
They utilize non lethal here too bugman, thing is that can get you arrested to.
>But in Freedom Flag country, anyone can easily be packing heat. So Murican cops are so paranoid that they always resort to hot lead at the drop of hat once they start sensing trouble.
Good, I'd rather dangerous freedom you commie shitbag.
>And yes, Japan cops got man-catchers.
Would that work on you since you're neither a man or woman?
About 150 years ago you nips had a warrior caste that stabbed unarmed peasants for fun whenever they felt like it.
Why bother trying to save crazy guys with knives?
>OP thinks cops hit all or even most of their shots
Unless you blow someone's brains out, the life is not like in the videogame. People dont die instantly. There is no HP system.
That was a justified shooting, but honestly 10mm would've put that tweaking gay down much faster.
It's why I constantly advocate for daily carrying 10mm or .50ActionExpress, it just makes sense. You never know when you're going to have to shoot a methed up twink.
>not carrying .45 ACP double stack.
Imagine 9 rounds of .45 and not 9mm instead.
Honestly, not sure if that would have worked here. Maybe if the nut was farther away and it was like 3 or 4 bean bag guns because then they could just dump on him but its not like you just hit them once and they get knocked down. Best case scenario he would have just ran back to the apartment at best and then cut his wrists there.
>N0o0o0o0 gimme ur guuuUUUuuUUnnnnN!!!!1!!
lol fuckin s o y b o y got lit up. good kill.
>calling US cops
There's less painful ways to have a nice day
he was trying and they wouldn't let him, all he wanted to do was cut his twiggy wrists in the bathroom of a seedy motel and they just couldn't leave him alone
The cop, being a servant of the public, helped him out.
I hope the family of that young man remembers to thank the officer for his service
As a family member of someone who has been "suicidal" for twenty years, I absolutely would.
>the family of that young man
I kind of doubt they keep in touch considering they never taught him not to start screaming at people with a knife in your hand
Kek you shitting me
>yeah i answered a suicide threat call and just blew his brains off
How you do you live with this statement
Don't run at cops with knives
So you think the cop is just gonna blame it on the kid and scream I DINDU NUFFIN
Was the cop black
Did you even watch the video? How you answer determines whether you're worth replying to anymore.
Yes, typical us cop freakout whem seeing anything that may remotely endanger his life.
Kinda you job to risk injury keeping the peace. Cant handle the heat? Resign. Us cop is the only force i know that just shoots. Not even brazil cops are that psychopathic despite favelados shooting first every time.
>bro just let people threaten your life and do nothing about it lol
As expected of a eurocuck
>Not even brazil cops are that psychopathic despite favelados shooting first every time.
That's not even fucking true you liar, like I said, you're not worth replying to when you spout outright fabrications.
Say anon, imagine you are a cop, I'm sprinting towards you with a machete in a violent manner, you already know I'm suicidal, what do you do?
Clearly he disarms the perp using awesome kung fu like in the movies 😀
Not putting myself in that retarded position without understanding thi situation or having a second officer help me subdue him
Something, I add, the rest of the world.does without problems.
Oh fuck off, I've literally seen videos of Brazilian cops executing two retards who fell off a moped. They're bloodthirsty fuckers, and I get it, but they are.
And yet they never kill someone having a breakdown.
Funny how that works.
The beret look is pretty kino I'll give them that.
Only after it got nuked twice by a real civilized nation.
>no a single innocent hit
>no mentally ill person summarily executed
Is thus meant to make brasilian cops look bad?
Pretty clear as day from multiple perspectives that the cop was acting in self-preservation by killing a crazed knife wielding maniac
Nothing of value was lost that day
The cop is innocent as a lamb here.
Don't walk towards the officer while holding a deadly weapon, fuckwit.
And especially do not reanimate from the dead as a meth zombie after being downed and go for his firearm.
>gimmmeee dat gun!!!!
genuinely chuckled when the cop mag dumped into him
>a deadly weapon
Dindu nuffin in blue detected.
Ah yes, knives, typically known as "tickle sticks".
They don't kill anybody, no siree.
Trying not to laugh every time I have to repeat the statement
And then wonder why my inlaws never visit?
>How you do you live with this statement
Evidently by shooting the crazy knife wielding fuck coming towards you. It's his suicide, not yours.
Cop earns himself the nickname "Ironman" on account of how ironic the situation was. Gets mad pussy for the next 30 years on the force and becomes a Chad Chief who equips his officers with Deagles and dragon's breath. Tasers are banned, so is mace. ASPs are traded in for Scottish Dirks.
The age of cuckpolice is over. The Iron Age has begun.
Why don't police use Beanbag guns anymore?
When a guy is coming at you it's too late to bean bag someone.
I saw one take a guy’s ear off.
Idiots repeating the "drugs make you superhuman" fuddlore in every fucking one of these threads
Read these words: shot placement
It's that simple, no drugs don't make people in invulnerable or give them special powers. Nothing does that shit besides opiates and PCP, everybody in these videos isn't on fucking PCP. If it's opiates they just aren't going to be a threat. Fuckers don't know shit about drugs. It's not drugs, it's shot placement.
If you can't cause traumatic damage to the thoracic cavity or CNS or brain, then they remain a threat. There are even historical cases of guys getting shot in the heart and walking around for another 3 minutes.
The human body is simultaneously very durable and very fragile. If you take out the lungs, heart or brain then the human body fails very quickly. But if you hit somebody anywhere else, it can keep going for a period of time. For other parts of the body it has to do with generating as much blood loss as you can to drop blood pressure to lethal levels. Stop perpetuating fuddlore no they aren't all on PCP.
The only thing that drugs could do to make people appear more resilient, is increase pain tolerance. The truth is, a lot of people are pussies and when they get shot they crumple up and give up because it fucking hurts and they are a pussy. They give up. When you have someone who isn't a pussy and has a high tolerance for pain, they will keep fighting until you kill them or they kill you.
This, always go for pic related
That influential anecdote should have a different lesson: breaking spines ends fights, so deeply penetrating rounds that can do that with a whole chest in the way instead of just a neck are favorable.
Instead, every retard tells each other that it's proof that two chest shots will magically charge up your aiming ability so you can get a head shot afterwards.
>Instead, every retard tells each other that it's proof that two chest shots will magically charge up your aiming ability so you can get a head shot afterwards.
Not a single soul on the planet earth has ever claimed that. The theory is that if the first two rounds to the torso (you know, the biggest target on a human body) don't drop them like it would most 99% of people you shoot, then the one to the dome, which is a foot or two above your current sight picture, probably will.
>probably will [drop them]
Unless you miss the head, like he did, because it's not a big target, like you said.
Missing point of aim by several inches while attempting to dome a threat, odds are you get a complete miss, but he got lucky and hit the spine. If his point of aim were upper chest, he also could have hit the spine in the same spot, but the other possibilities would be more reliable.
With realistic expectations of your aim in bad conditions, chest shots are your best bet for stopping an unarmored threat, both before and after two unlucky shots.
>Idiots repeating the "drugs make you superhuman" fuddlore in every fucking one of these threads
I've been on both sides of the op video, some drugs will make you capable of fighting through pain and bodily harm, especially if they can make you schizo like op's.
It's not even fuddlore, cops who have been in the shit will tell you the same thing, it's widely known smelling salts and amphetamines do this kinda shit.
This more or less. Drugs are often just an excuse for what is actually shit marksmanship, I have seen nothing to suggest they physically reduce the brain’s demand for oxygen. Psychological stops are basically a saving throw for people who can’t aim and when that factor gets removed then the results of your bad aim are on full display.
Cops should never be presumed to be competent gunfighters. I’ve seen a video where an officer fired 8 rounds at a dude charging at room distance in a straight line and only got 3 hits, 2 of them vital. There’s dashcam footage of 2 officers trading fire with a suspect literally standing out in the open, they hit him 19 times and land 2 vital hits. There’s plenty of autopsy reports that show a similar pattern, 4+ bullet wounds but only 1 or 2 that do anything important.
Retards on this site have this unrealistic notion that they can instantly drop a crackhead with a gutshot with a .32 ACP FMJ and then get mindbroken when shooting people all over the stomach, arms and legs with far more damaging bullets doesn’t work. The truth is that unless you’re using fragmenting rounds in something like .338 Win Mag and up that allow you to blow people’s limbs off, you should basically just train like only thoracic and CNS hits count, body armor excepting.
You talk a lot of bullshit, but I've seen as many, if not more, of cops getting direct shots, multiple times, confirmed by coroners. I doubt they'd fudge the books just to say the cop had better accuracy than he did.
Off the top of my head the nog that charged a cop with a machete and got lit up from two officers and was still swinging the thing.
Feel free to provide the evidence and descriptions of the wounds.
Not even drugs, only 3 hits vital in the context of a gunfight, can’t even tell when they were landed chronologically. 230 gr Gold Dot is not a big expander by .45 standards and auto glass/bodies compromise this further.
No drugs found, it is also well known that a few seconds of action are possible after circulatory destruction which is all he had.
On the other hand I can think of plenty of demonstrations of uninspiring effect thanks to poor shot placement (and/or crappy bullet) off the top of my head and this is likely not nearly every one I have read about.
>Platt and Mattix
>charge-across-the-room knife dude
>11/29/2006 Pennsylvania probable - limited detail available
>At least one more I cannot remember the name of, shot 4+ times, 1 lung hit, partial incapacitation, eventual fatality
>Another I am uncertain of, 2-3 hits on heart & lungs, cannot remember exact number of total hits
I have also heard anecdotal reports from a retired cop and an active duty cop in 2 separate cities that their office has never seen a case where 147 gr HST and 230 gr HST failed to incapacitate with good shot placement. One reported a 100% fatality rate with 230 gr +P HST with vital hits.
The coroner report stated he hit most of his shots.
The rest I don't have reference to because they were webms or various police cop shootings.
If they're on meth,hard core psyches, bath salts, any kind of stimulant/painkiller combo like that, they won't incap immediately unless it's a t zone shot.
>they crumple up and give up because it fucking hurts and they are a pussy
>self-preservation Instinct makes you a pussy
Thanks for the input, Joe. Now why don't you go take off your shirt so your roid swollen nipples don't chafe while you pump some kettle bells.
9mm fags remain on suicide watch. 45 acp woulda has him down within 2 shots
Wrong, just gives you a slightly larger margin of error for shit placement. The wound cavity isn't actually that much more devastating. A rifle would be better for the results your talking about.
Also it's worth mentioning hollow points, since they are more likely to fragment and spread out than a solid projectile or full metal jacket, causing more damage to more parts of the body. But to down someone in just 2 shots, we're talking about catastrophic damage caused by faster moving projectiles coming out of rifles.
>no mentally ill person summarily executed
Holy fuck you are reaching
No (You) for you
It's hilarious that people point at this video as some grand example of the UK having better policing or whatever. Imagine how many calls are being delayed because of this shitshow lmao
*cops walks in your garage*
*get magdumped because you had a screwdriver on you*
*says i dundu nuffin on live tv and gets a pstd pension*
not how it works, what shithole do you live in so we can mock you 🙂
Imagine living in countries where violent crime rate is so low that cops are soft and helpless against actually violent criminals.
You would think that, with the exponential increase in violent criminals with the migrant crisis and people just generally becoming more unhinged, their police would stop being so pathetic.
This is why euros make no sense, sending a 19 year old cop with 2 months of training and a glock would've ended this much faster
Black, only the British don't give guns to their cops, in France or Spain that zulu would have gotten blasted with a 9mm burst.
Italians may not be the best military, but they're always the best dressed military.
they look like npcs from a bethesda game
I'd love to see these bobbies dropped in Detroit or LA for a day to see how many survive and how mentally fucked up the survivors are. Need a followup to see how many kill themselves afterward and in what fashion.
They could use a day in the Little Congo to shake them up a bit anyway, a break from bullying little old women for the crime of standing around and thinking about Jesus without a loicense.
>cherry-picking: the thread
Druga and/or mental illness have a strange way of making people more resistant to long distance hole punching...no matter the size of the hole.
Yeah me too I carry a .45 since them there tupperware peashooters take NINE shots to put a man in the ground. the .45 takes olny ONE...!
How effective is chainmail against knife attacks? German police has been seen using chanimail suits a few times. Imagine two buffed police officers in a chainmail, with battons against one scrawny psycho. Wouldn't they be able to overpower him with ease and be protected from his attacks?
Most police don't hop down to ye olde armory to respond to calls. Especially because chainmail is dogshit against boolet.
It’s not only chainmail, they combine the chainmail with a breaching team and a very long wooden stick.
You have guys with guns drawn, guys with ballistic shields and the vert long stick just being used to continuously strike the knife wielder.
It’s a very effective concept that has only been worked out in the last decade.
The suspect who will get handled by the stick will end up looking worse than Rodney King though.
They carry the equipment in the back of their minivans they usse to respond to calls.
They wear boolitproof gear ontop of the chainmail.
European schizos don’t have firearms because the access is regulated.
Those are specialized teams that respond to specific situations with studied and trained tactics.
A schizo with a knife is a different thing than an active shooter. Dress for the occassion.
Do you even operate?
>European schizos don’t have firearms because the access is regulated.
wasn't there a mass shooting in germany just the other day lol
There are racers who survived crashing through barriers at 160mph and being engulfed in flames with only relatively minor injuries, and there are those who get fucked up just from falling down a little. The body is weird, anon. That said 9mm got souped up when .38spl revolvers proved to be ineffective against the new age meth hordes, which is kind of funny when you consider why .45 ACP even exists.
>also shot placement is key
Good God, stay sober if you're retarded kids.
If you watch the video it's only 7 shots and the guy was already on his way down by shot 5. I love how OP thinks this video is a dunk on 9mm - it actually proves you only need a few shots of 9mm to completely incapacitate a methed out crackhead with a knife. Thanks for the confirmation my 15rd 9mm edc will be more than sufficient.
Daddy garand thumb told me 9mm is amazing when using one of those premium defense loads