>woodland in the desert
Why was the invasion of Iraq so kino
>woodland in the desert
>woodland in the desert
Preparedness & self-sufficiency community
>woodland in the desert
Why was the invasion of Iraq so kino
idk but war sure is cool and awesome I wish there would be another one so I could have some fun
Why didn't you go when Ukraine was taking volunteers?
post a timestamped picture of you in a trench in ukraine right now
the guy you're replying to isn't the absolute retard who thinks war is cool and fun
war is cool and fun, gay
war is apart of the human condition. Everyone thinks war is cool and fun deep down inside. Moralgays should stop lying to themselves
Seek Christ, demonic garden gnome gay.
Just saying, it's not the experience of the vast majority of people who have been to war. It's the difference between going to Epcot and actually traveling the world. Sure, you can get schnitzel at Epcot, but you're not really in Germany.
It doesn’t matter if other people suck at war. If you’re good then it’s still war. Do you think the Taliban who died by the tens of thousands thought they weren’t at war
>Most well funded military on the planet with unlimited air support and CASEVAC vs a bunch of retarded inbred goatfuckers.
Does that describe the Taliban? No? Then obviously their experience was different lmao. Brain damaged ZOGbot retard.
>War is defined by me!
>if you’re not a heckin underdog it doesn’t count
Sorry that you're literally a drooling brain damaged mongoloid who can't understand simple concepts; I'll try to break it down more simply.
A 300 pound bodybuilding man punching a 90 pound woman is technically a fight, but their experiences are going to be vastly different from one another.
>y…you’re too strong
Literally yes. If you're a grown man who has only ever fought women and children, you have not had the same experiences as a grown man who fights other grown men of similar strength.
It’s not the Big guys fault no one else can match him
no thanks christcuck. If you knew anything about human nature you would know why War is great and why your God probably likes me more than you
The vast majority of people I meet on a daily basis are kind and compassionate and just want to enjoy life with the people they love in peace. That's the human nature that's a lot more common; what you're describing is sociopathic nature, and it's not universal.
we are kind and compassionate but we are also a war species. Going against your nature is why we have Civil wars. Thats why conflicts are needed. I could also go off on all the advancements war has brought us and also prevented our extinction but that should be obvious
If we're a war species, why is there no evidence of conflict between groups of humans before a few thousand years ago despite humans being behaviorally modern for 50,000 years?
thats pretty preposterous since Homosapiens fought and killed the other hominids making us the apex
source: a bunch of dubious shit you learned in elementary school
Anyone who claims to know for certain what happened 150,000 years ago is a bullshit artist.
No, but regardless, it doesnt really matter what you believe on that specific subject since if you assume humans have only been fighting for 10,000 years thats still enough time to have it ingrained in our psyche
Reality is what we make of it. We can choose to be violent moron apes, or we can choose to evolve and be human beings. You've obviously chosen the moronpill.
Thats a pipe dream, and just plain moralgayry. You do in fact enjoy violence, this is evident in the popularity of video games, movies, entertainment since the dawn of time
There were atleast 5 other humanoid species walking around when Sapiens left Africa. There is now only 1. Have you ever seen a fight to the death between apes? It puts our modern conventions of war to shame, your thumbs are your greatest weapon
Like I said, we can make a choice to keep evolving, or we can be moron apes. You want to be a moron.
>he doesnt know that highly evolved upper dimensional extraterrestrials also have wars
>retarded child resorts to fantasy when faced with the fact that he's spiritually a moron
Sure anon, only morons have war. Theres no other possible reasons for why people go to war
The difference between morons and humans is that humans bred with Neanderthals. The original humans were just violent apes (aka black people), and only through evolution did modern humans (white people) emerge. You used to shit yourself and cry when you were a baby, but you cast aside that behavior as you matured. The same must be done with moronish violence, on a species level.
You can try all you want to to hide your nature. At the end of the day, you will still be engaging in entertainment that revolves around violence because you enjoy it. Movies, shows, weapons whatever
I own and train with guns to protect myself and my family from the violent sociopaths like you. I never, ever want to be in that kind of situation, but I will prepare for it because it's my responsibility as a man.
so you are saying... you have a reason to go to 'war' against those you believe can harm your family. Almost like thats in your very nature 🙂
Being in a self defense situation is not the same as traveling to the other side of the planet to kill people who did nothing to me.
Do sociopaths really not know the difference between attacking people and defending yourself? Very strange way of looking at the world.
Actually its baffling you dont see the similarity. Regular people go to war because they believe it protects their family and property, and it does.
Only a complete fucking rube would believe that we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to protect anything but private profits. It sucks that our rulers are so good at manufacturing consent, but they don't actually rewrite reality. Thinking you're fighting for something is not the same as actually fighting for something, and anyone with half a brain could see through the blatant deep state lies.
>It sucks that our rulers are so good at manufacturing consent
they arent. the american people are just that docile, no better than domesticated cattle at this point
Bullshit. They pump billions into propaganda to make sure we go along with the program. Edward Bernays and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Youre comparing the governments reason for war versus regular people. Even if the people were lied to, it doesnt really matter since any outcome will be a net benefit to society financially and morally. There is still valid reasons for warmongering and lying to the populace to create war. This is what separates brainless peons from the Elites. That is knowing why war is important and leads to golden ages
No war in the past century has been a net benefit to any society involved in it in any way. America benefited from WW2 because everywhere else either collapsed or needed American goods. Actually going out and invading places has only made things worse. This is obvious to everyone
Ok, then look at something like 9/11 as an example. This created unity amongst americans which is very rare. This also allowed our soldiers to get actual experience fighting and advance our weaponry and technology while other countries in peacetime stagnated. This puts us in a great position for if/when a war amongst major powers begins and will prevent our demise
It "unified" us briefly, for a specific fake narrative that wasn't true and was used to pillage our country. The Patriot act was not passed for our benefit. We are not safer because we went to war. The entire narrative behind 9/11 is fake. We wasted trillions and look at us now, we are more divided than any other time in American history with the possible exception of the civil war. If we had another 9/11 or afghan war, it would probably fracture out society even more.
Also we are a very wealthy country with two oceans on either side of us and our only bordering nations are Mexico and fucking canda. America is under no threat by anyone else, we don't need to have the absolute best cutting edge tech (we would still have the best technology because of how rich we were anyways but that's besides the point). This is like saying our support for Ukraine is beneficial now, it's literally the same thing. Throwing billions of shit at some pointless conflict we won't benefit from. If you suggested we invade Mexico the cleanse the cartel, I could understand and possibly agree but the Afghanistan war was just a disaster.
Thing is your power comes from your economic output, and your diplomacy, but your diplomacy works really well because of the big stick you carry. Being a massive arms exporter with a massive military gives the USA incredible power.
If you lose all that stuff, you're still in a good position but you're no longer a point of reference for the reality of life on Earth the way you are now
America doesn't need to invade countries to project military power. And we are limited with what we can actually do when countries like Russia call out bluff. As tough as we pretend to be, we will not be engaging in nuclear exchanges for random places in Europe or Asia. I'm not saying we should disband the military, I just don't appreciate fighting in gay wars for no benefit to me. This is all just a function of empire, it's not for the benefit of the peasents trapped within the system
well, as a person in a country sinking through it's post colonial decline, your other metrics will sink with your power projection. It's inevitable anyway, the baton is always passed
yeah for like the first year after 9/11, long term it was more devastating to the american identity than nam. Osama won
Not him but after one 11 month and one 14 month tour as an 11b I can honestly say war is fun. Afghanistan was kinda pretty but it's the smell, the early as fuck blasting of prayers, goats in the distance, and in terms of actual war, the feeling of pure adrenaline mixed with sounds and laying down at night with a constant ringing in my ear was peaceful. I miss it. So yeah, for some, war is cool and fun as fuck. Maybe I'm just a psycho? Idk but tried to re-enlist but no-go since TBI and when Ukraine broke out I've already been discharged for 8 years and had a 2 year old.
Afghanistan was more similar to a study abroad program than a real war. Most well funded military on the planet with unlimited air support and CASEVAC vs a bunch of retarded inbred goatfuckers.
That’s called war just being good at it
>oh no but you’re killing them too easily
The guy you replied to.
My experience was pretty intense. My last tour I took a 7.62 to the shoulder and back with my unit in less than a month sense it just skimmed my bone. I spent 90% of my time at a COP where we were shot at damn near everyday and some were full blown attacks where we were fighting for an hour, sometimes more until air support arrived.
I've taken a life and I've seen friends die. So either you never served or you were never attached to a unit that saw fighting.
And while yes, shit was awful I stick by what u said. War was cool and fun as fuck. I can sometimes still smell the dirt kicking up in my face and the dust and the goats and the gun powder. Something I miss very much.
Those goat fuckers now run that shithole of a country.
Because it was an inherently unwinnable situation, and it only ever could have ended that way.
Grow up, buddy. It's not 2008 anymore. It's fun to be an amoral sociopath when you're 13, but at a certain point you have to join the real world where people have empathy.
youre ignoring my points. Points which young teens have no real concept of, but ok. You dont realize youre doing more harm than good by making peacetime last longer than it should
How we view humanity is just a reflection of our own inner psyche. If you view humanity as inherently violent, all that means is that you're a violent person.
Then tell me, why does everyone play violent video games and watch violent movies, and these are the most popular franchises? Does that not imply a latent fantasy amongst the general population for war?
I'm fascinated by outer space, but that doesn't mean I want to die from being exposed to a vacuum.
So what's your experience then? Or did you just watch everything on CNN and movies? You realize some people were mentally and biologically wires for fighting, right? I count myself into that category, especially since I miss the fuck out of it. Even being shot or diagnosed with TBI, I'd do it all over again.
We should just put all you guys on an island and have you fight to the death for our entertainment. It would remove all the retarded moronbrained thugs who enjoy violence from society and you would get to do what you like to do. Win/win.
I don't like violence at home. Because I love war doesn't mean I walk out of my house wanting something bad to happen lol yeah I carry a pistol daily but why wouldn't I? You sound like a huge gay that was to scared to serve or did the gayest thing ever, join the Navy.
>too scared to serve
No, I never once considered becoming a ZOGbot, because I have a moral compass that prevents me from joining institutions that are bad for society. It's the same reason I'm not a prison guard, an ~~*investment banker*~~, or a porn director.
>It's the same reason I'm not a prison guard, an ~~*investment banker*~~, or a porn director.
But you're on a weapons board which means you like guns? Or you're just here trolling. It honestly just sounds like you're a coward and was too afraid to do anything. I didn't serve because I wanted to suck uncle Sam's dick. I did it because I wanted the fighting, which I got plenty of and don't regret it one bit. It eventually became a brotherhood after my "needs" were met. But I'll tell you a story.
>doing hut to hut type shit
>Intel was legit and the area was housing taliban fighters
>this one house we were taking incoming fire from
>couldn't use gunship or a10 because it's a literal town/village
>got to one entry way behind breacher
>breaches and I toss in a frag
>enter immediately after blast.
>found a girl about 12 years of age dead
>cleared by all military "courts" after doing an After Battle Damage Assessment
It hurt but that's the only thing that bothered me. Seeing eyes eaten out of bodies that had been there for a day or two, the smell of rotting corpses that wasn't removed because it's a war zone, etc. None of that bothered me. Still doesn't and again, I'd do it all over again because some people are just built for it. You're not one of those people.
>Kills little girl
>Is slightly "bothered" by it
Idk if this is a troll or you lack self awareness but I and other sane people don't want or need marauders like you getting into silly pointless gun fights on the other side of the planet for no reason. It may surprise you but I actually don't want trillions of tax dollars vanishing for no actual benefit, if anything the Taliban are probably in a stronger position now than before the war even started
I think about it everyday. You downplay it by using certain words against me and that's fine, do what you need to fit your narrative/agenda.
It was one of the few things that effected me mentally, especially since I have a 3 year old girl. (Didn't at the time but reflected everyday since she was born)
And I don't give a fuck what happens there or why we were there. Again, I did it because I enjoy war. I liked it a lot. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said previously, some people are meant for it, you're not one that is and that's fine as long as you stop painting me as some war mongering mentally ill retard when it's something I was purely meant for.
People with the genetic disposition towards fearlessness and detachment who get abused in childhood become serial killers and rapists, and those who don't become extreme sports enthusiasts, soldiers, law enforcement, racing drivers, etc.
People with the ability to handle that kind of thing float to the top in these kinds of roles. There's no sense being bothered by it. For the military to work you need people that can do this kind of thing.
Psychos / criminals are not at the top, they are put in certain positions by the actual elite. These fucked up / retarded people are unleashed when the real powers need you to wreck shit for their (not your) benefit. I'm not bothered by evil people existing, I get annoyed when they try to make excuses for their behavior. If some guy wants to kill stone age goat herders for fun I can meet him on that level. His lying about his utility to me while doing it is unacceptable.
You almost are certainly a mentally ill war mongering retard and I could and would fight if I needed to, for the right reasons. You think you're hot shit because you were a soldier in a massive super advanced empire that killed a few dune coons. It's not impressive, you're not a warrior, you're just some fool zogbot. If you had fought in a real war with a real point I could respect you even if I disagreed but as I see it you're not better than some swat team raiding a random house and accidentally killing a baby by throwing a flash bang in it's crib. What you did is sad and I don't need you to fight for me so stop pretending that's what you did.
You didnt read my post. People with the genetic predisposition towards becoming psychopaths or developing antisocial personality disorders (about 3% of the male population) that don't have abusive upbringings represent the bulk of people in certain professions where fearlessness or a lack of empathy is useful. They aren't evil, or psychopaths. The Ted Bundy's go on to eat people's livers or whatever but the rest of them go on to do the harsh jobs we need. You cant have a military without people with the ability to do this shit, nor can you have a population without those people. They might become firemen, hell those people are even over representative as CEOs. This is just a fact of the demographics of a population, it's never going away.
Some people have the ability to sustain and even enjoy shit you can't, and in some situations they hold a huge advantage over those who can't
SOMEONE has to guard prisoners anon.
But you would never know until I told you lol I walk out with my family and would give my shirt off my back for someone in need.....
Hell my wife and I volunteer every year at the homeless shelter. So how in God's name am I some psychopath or whatever else name you have for me? I did what I did OVER THERE. Doesn't mean I'm the same human here
I'm talking to you too and is more meant for you regardless. I didn't fight for you. Not even close. I fought for me because I like it. But here at home there is a switch you must flip and I did. Similar to when I go to work. I tap the door frame on my way out to leave my home problems at home and tap it coming in to leave my work problems at work.
>volunteer once a year at a shelter to make yourself feel better
Fun fact: all the people who work at the shelter hate you because they have to take time out of their day to babysit you. Your presence is actually more of a detriment than anything.
Source: I work at a homeless shelter
Well oops. Sorry I try and help my community and fuck up your life threatening job lol no matter what I say you will still try and paint me as a monster, a killer, and whatever else you have pictured.
That's fine. Just know there are men who fought and those who didn't. You didn't and in my eyes, you, sir, are a coward who doesn't have what
This guy said. As sick and fucked up as is seems you need people like me. You may not realize it but people like me are why this country thrives. Wether you want to admit it or not, you can't deny that people "like me" is why you don't speak German. Sure, those boys didn't have a choice and I did. BUT it's the warriors of the group. The ones who don't falter but prevail.
>why you don't speak German
America has not faced an existential threat in over a century, aside from soviet nukes which are outside the scope of this discussion
Also, my great-grandparents spoke German, and they were forced to abandon their cultural heritage because of war propaganda. The number one ethnicity in America is German; everything good about this country is German and everything faggy and evil about it is English. We backed the wrong side in WWII.
I wasn't gonna bring that up but I agree. My ancestor 🙂 crossed the pond from Germany in 1861 after killing his friend in a duel. Supposedly.
>you need people like me
this is literally the definition of coping lmao. Just accept that you're a vestigial part of human society; the wisdom tooth of people. And like wisdom teeth, you should be removed because you're ultimately just going to cause harm without providing any utility.
How will I cause harm by going to work everyday, coming home to my wife and child and caring for people I don't even know? Why would you want to remove someone who in an instant would happily pick up a ruck and head to foreign soil again? Why does my military history make me someone you want removed when it's people like me who keep shit together. Again, if you ever met me you would have no idea what I've done or who I was ij Afghanistan. Yet you keep saying you don't need me?
There is no need for you to invade another country. Stop acting like you were doing anyone a fucking favor by getting your rocks off blowing up little girls, you freak.
I didn't invade a country, I just did what was asked when I signed up lmao and you keep bringing in that girl like it was my fault or like I'm somehow proud of it. I'm not. I stressed that enough while talking to you.
But who are you going to rely on when ww3 starts? A blue haired liberal? Or someone like me? Having someone like myself on standby should pretty damn reassuring consindering there are hundreds of thousands more.
I try to get fucked but I always end up fucking my wife. Not sure where I went wrong there.
NTA but why would you want to fight for a country that is actively hostile towards you and hates your kind?
Go back and read my post. I didn't fight for my country. I fought because I always thought I was built for war, and I was. I was good at it. I enjoyed 99% of it. But that's a legitimate question and hopefully I answered enough to satisfy you.
Unless you signed up directly after 9/11 you signed up for the cool factor. Although, a lot of guys I served with did it for country, there is a lot more that just enjoyed it, like myself.
Also wife just sent me a nice ass shit while at work lol God I love thicc women!
Nice ass pic*** I need to proof read more, jesus.
lmao, you really had me going, but you're taking the whole "delusional narcissist" thing too far when you post that ass and think it's a brag
Where's your wife? Where is the woman who gave you a child? Where is your conservative wife that has dinner ready everyday? I'll brag about what I see sexually attractive.
I don't have a wife; we're getting married in June. Nobody is impressed by you, loser.
Then post something so we can laugh. Post a picture of you two. Do something outside saying I'm a lover or baby killer lmao. I at least posted my wife and I. What do you have to share?
I honestly don't know if this guy is genuinely delusional or an elaborate troll. Either way, this is some of the most fun I've had on this gay website I can never leave that I've had in years.
Pretty real person lol and what would I get out of trolling a board full of trannies and memes? I made a post, someone commented, I countered and it went from there. Just posting pics because I can
You're a cartoon character, buddy.
Lmao I should not and wont post my wife because she is recognizable and brands exist.
You shouldn't post yours either, or your fucking biometrics, because both are recognizable but not for good reasons.
If WWIII starts, it will be because of the people you fought on behalf of, and your kind will be the bad guys.
>If WWIII starts, it will be because of the people you fought on behalf of, and your kind will be the bad guys.
Well that sucks dick. Honestly sounds like you have a hatred to men with balls? Idk mane. I'm a pretty normal dude outside or a warzone lol
Were you just playing a retarded ZOGbot character so you could facedox your enemy and his fat wife?
America doesn't need to go to foreign soil for self defense and no one wants you killing randos on our tax dollar while proclaiming how special you are for doing it. Get fucked you degenerate zogbot shit bag.
war is based and the feeling that it isn't because little girls get exploded is cope
I'm saying that you aren't some special guy that could do it because of your ability to deal with war or whatever. You fought for your own reasons and that's it. I can fight for myself I don't need you to do anything for me, I do not consider you a warrior. I don't need to be a sociopath or whatever you think you are to fight in a war. I can't even really call you a bad person, our system encourages people like you and our society does not care either.
I see two possibilities, either god exists or he does not. In one world everything you did was meaningless and in the other you committed terrible sins for no good reason. I wonder if you still would believe all this if you had your skin burned off and your face removed by a ied. Your idea of war is fake
The Navy doesn’t need ‘YoU’rE a ZoGbOt!!’ People like him. Every person on my boat we’re praying for a day we could hear the order ‘unrestricted submarine warfare’. Praying for any amount of TONNAGE and to prove to literally every other aspect of the navy that we’re better and more effective than all of them.
based servant of the synagogue of satan sacrificing lives to saturn
>I pray for war
>uh oh our sub got hit by some chinese sub thats been stalking us the whole time
>violence is amoral
>people who like violence should fight to the death for our entertainment
wot in tardnation
Modern war is cool and awesome
"Peacekeeping operations" and literally WW1 trench warfare blow ass
>Modern war is cool and awesome
go tell that to the guys in Bakhmut right now
Modern war against peer adversary is fucking horrific
>modern war is cool and awesome as long as the other side doesn't have any modern weapons
US troops will be on the ground in Ukraine by the end of of the summer. Screencap this.
big if true
I'm not dying for this demonic country, the us better send all the jobless pajeets to fight
>t. us army recruiters
man i love thos desert goggles
goggles are underrated
Now he's burning in hell
I;m thinking about thos Goggles
I miss it so much bros. I want to go back.
>Battle for Khasham, aftermath, 2018
Why was Poland so willing to jump headfirst into Iraq?
Because "Polish" is a synonym for "retarded"
Some Polish oil company was cut in. I'm dead serious but I don't remember the details
While following the money and seeing the profit motive behind world events is one of my favorite hobbies, being racist towards polacks is more fun.
>being racist towards polacks is more fun.
Is it really racist if you're also white?
slavs aren't white
Only to the Hatians
If you're not Germanic, then you're not white.
seethe and cope
to get US troop presence in Poland in return - when you live next to a neighbour that goes berserk every few decades for last 500 years you tend to prepare for the storm you know is coming sooner or later.
Because it saw the dawn of the PGM. Plus the Bradleys killing so many tanks upped the PrepHoleino by a lot
If the Russians invaded a desert country with woodland you'd all go
>HUR DUR, VATmoronS SUCK
They invaded with mat colors and green helmets during the Soviet afghan war and it was kino as hell
fuck off Ivan
Afghanistan in in soviet flavour was very aesthetic tbh.
Soviets, not Russians, bit of a difference their friend the soviets were somewhat competent. The Russians we are seeing now are a pale shadow of their former selves.
They look worse equipped than the DPR. What is this shit?
>Dying for garden gnome wars is cool
Yup. War isn't inherently good; it depends on why it's being fought.
Who would think war is fun? I understand some people have fallen to their lower nature's but if you objectively look at the situation it was a massive waste of resources, time, and human life. It wasn't even a cool war where soldiers got to rape and loot like vikings or Romans, no you were just a zogbot working for the equivalent of like $2 an hour killing and risking life ruining mental / physical mutilation for literally no reason. Most guys here couldn't understand a philosophical argument so I won't bother, but all you did was kill some stone age goat herders that probably didn't even really care what they were fighting or dying for, they probably just did it because there was nothing better to do. Just all around a lame as FUCK "war", not even a real war it was just spinning your wheels to make retarded profits for the military industrial complex. It lacks all heroism, it's just sad.
>woodland in the desert
chad just wants to guarantee contact
Iraq was pushed by zionist garden gnomes.
ZOG dragged us into Iraq, they dragged us into Afghanistan, they dragged us into Ukraine and they are plotting to drag us into Taiwan.
>Afghanistan is Le Good War
>Ends up failing horribly
>Iraq was Le unjustified
>US backed government is still standing and still getting into slapfights with Iran.
The real lesson is that you can't cause a regime change in a country that doesn't have a strong central government
Iraq is objectively a worse place now than it was 25 years ago.
I could take any of those chumps easily.
>Moralfagging on PrepHole
kek, back to where? the hlcomic.net forums? or the jimmy neutron board on imdb? because those were the only other internet communities I was a part of before I started coming here in 2006
Shit bro, I use gaiaonline till this fucking place ended up being the only message board I'd frequent for the last 15 years. Christ alive time has passed.
Iraq, unlike what mainstream thought tells us, is not a desert. It is surrounded by deserts sure especially to it's west but it is in fact very lush, why do you think Mesopotamia is called the "Fertile Crescent"?
>Iraq, unlike what mainstream thought tells us, is not a desert
Except half of it literally is retard
That is inaccurate. The "semi-arid and steppes" zones actually look like this and if the Iraqis actually decided to fight America would have had a disaster worse than Russia had in the first month of their invasion
Gulf was better
Generation Kill was so kino
People dying and people casually talking about it on the internet. Isn't that enough proof that something is wrong with the world and things need to change ? I don't know how or what but it isn't ok and it need to.
But everybody pretends it's all right. Iraq, libya, syria, ukraine now. countries with millions of people population suffers but yeah, fuck it. It's enough of a proof that the whole world status quo is evil but nobody(internet forum trolls doesn't count) challenges it.
It's detachment from empathy, but it's always been in our nature. We've (and this is a subjective interpretation of mankind as a whole and I'm drunk on moscow mules at 11:30 in the morning. Too fucking good man I can't stop drinking them) been killing each other for all sorts of insane reasons. People have been casually been talking about death for generations now. Lessons that we learn about the harshness of war are almost always first-hand accounts or through the lens of first-hand accounts. Nobody looks at statistics and feels bad because it's just a number and we don't quantify that number as a person. I think I might be getting lost in my own argument here, so to summarize, something has always been wrong in the world but it's not going to ever change because we're cavemen who can write poetry and order ballistic missile attacks from a phone.