With Europe rearing in the face of Russia's military being unveiled as a laughing stock outside nuclear capability, will we see another massive Euro was in the next 20 years? I predict we will
With Europe rearing in the face of Russia's military being unveiled as a laughing stock outside nuclear capability, will we see another massive Euro was in the next 20 years? I predict we will
Germans are cucks. Kill em all I say.
Russias military is still the strongest, it took all of nato plus ukraine to do something about it.
you moron, the only thing HATO and the burgers gave Ukraine were their spare change and dusty surplus gear. If HATO actually fought this war, this pathetic paper army would have been evaporated in not even a week.
Bruh are you a time traveler from January 2022? The Russian military is a joke, and would absolutely get fricked sideways. Why are the mobilization troops told to bring their own camo lol. Russia is a wet paper tiger, I can believe they were seriously considered the 2nd best army in the world before February.
>I can believe they were seriously considered the 2nd best army in the world before February.
Everyone fell for the 50+ years of constant hype. Even the russians themselves.
>unquestioningly believing Russian propaganda
The amount of gear they got was hardly anything. The bulk of what they got was the ex-Soviet 152mm shells. They just managed to combine it with accurate firing and good intel.
This continues to be the dumbest fricking thing vatniks believe.
it took less than 10% of america's annual military budget in equipment to bring down the last decade of russian military buildup
A generation of Russian men are dead and gone forever because the US gave Ukraine some old technology it had lying around.
When the grain grows higher next year, I hope you thank all the fertilizer for their service.
>Mein Putin, why are we attacking Ukraine? What reason or justification could we have?
>Genocide of Russians.
>Mein Putin, we've been occupying parts of Ukraine for 7 months now, but we still cannot find conclusive evidence of Ukraine's genocide!
>Ukraine's?
Underrated
>and NATO has yet to arrive
Pretty sure that Kyiv front collapse was early on in the invasion, that was before a lot of hardware were being delivered. Unless you’re admitting all it took for russia to frick off were MANPAD’s and ATGM’s.
>it took all of nato plus ukraine to do something about it.
Classic russian shill line you'll see all over the internet.
>it took all of nato plus ukraine to do something about it.
You literally lost the war to 8 (EIGHT) HIMARS, ancient javelins that were given to afgans back in the 80s and some free satellite TV.
>You literally lost the war to 8 (EIGHT) HIMARS,
Germany and Britain delivered their HIMARS alternative with twice the weight and firepower shortly after the first HIMARS delivery.
I guess the name wasn't catchy enough for memes.
The Ukies kicked your "strongest military" out of Kyiv before "HATO" even acknowledged your existence. Then "HATO" sifted the lint in its pockets, gave the Ukies 4 HIMARs and it so utterly fricked up your "strongest military's" logistics so hardcore they were paralyzed for four months. Lend Lease started a week ago, but the Ukies have been spanking your "strongest military" like a naughty cantaloupe for more than a month and a half.
You have to burn lean calories into the wee hours making up absurd excuses for why your "strongest military" is underperforming. We just pop some popcorn, post drone footage of your exhausted, demoralized mooks blowing each other while pointing at you and laughing.
In the words of Patton Oswalt: "You are going to miss everything cool and die angry."
Schizo post
Ukraine kicked your ass using NATO and Soviet equipment from the 80s, accept the facts, the russian army is a joke
OK.
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Just wait until the super weapons show up if you think getting Cold War hand me downs is a game changer
>all of NATO
yeah yeah, call me when the Pacific Fleet arrives in Vladivostok
what will Euros fight over?
>what will Euros fight over?
Over who gets to bomb Serbia first
Energy obviously.
we won't see another war at all. If we're lucky we'll see serbia trying dollar store desert storm too and watch them get pounded to dust by HATO planes again. But that's it p much for geopolitical tensions between neighbors.
You dumb c**t. If we don't have strong armies we will definitely get wars. Turkey will go apeshit, and you never know when you might need to smack the brownies.
>we won't see another war at all
You haven't learned anything do you
Scholz says a lot of things, wake me up when he actually does shit
100 billion special rearmament fund and 2% of the GDP as annual military investments come to mind.
Which is just enough to restore the Bundeswehr to basic functionality by replacing older systems that have become prohibitively expensive to maintain. As far as I can tell filling up munitions stockpiles to NATO standards (which should be a priority) isn't even included. Without a permanent and significant increase in the regular defence budget we'll just have the same discussions in five or ten years again, and that's what Scholz has been skirting around so far.
>Ynr Merkel gutting the Bundeswehr was met with constant applause and praise from the German left
Frick off. 85 billion USD is a good budget. Germany would be come the 3rd. largest spender.
Theyve committed it but given how much the Germany army has been gutted it will take a while to build it up. In addition Ive heard its already bogged down in bureaucracy which is draining funds.
>100 billion special rearmament fund and 2% of the GDP as annual military investments come to mind.
>Without a permanent and significant increase in the regular defence budget we'll just have the same discussions in five or ten years again, and that's what Scholz has been skirting around so far.
>and 2% of the GDP as annual military investments come to mind.
Powerful homierdry going on here.
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Christian Lindner's mid-term financial planning.
The big problem is that as of rn the regular defence budget is being held constant for the next few years with expenditures from the "special fund" being counted towards the 2% target. That ultimately means when this government ends in 2025 the next one (however it's made up) will be left with a hole of about 30 billion Euros towards reaching it.
Without a doubt there will be many ad-hoc raises of the defence budget above that line but, if anything, that just exacerbates the issue: short term political manoeuvring instead of long-term planning, which is of the main reasons German procurement is so fricked
>they gotta hit the 2%
>so I wonder what they'll do to hit the 2%
Spend money, anon.
This is just a way to steal market share from the Italians, French and Swedes. Typical German shit.
Explain.
Why do they all have that line seperating their cheeks from the area above the mouth? Also why are they only hot when young but don't stay hot as they age?
The Germans have committed 100billion to the Bundeswehr to expand and rebuild. Its not that impressive since the defence budget has been cut by ever successive German government since unification.
>Scholz says
>Germany says
okay so nothing is going to happen, cool thread OP
>Russia's military being unveiled as a laughing stock
not as big as Belarus
Wouldn't a non-euro like you want to know?
Hahahahahaha yeah, ok germany.
Until they actually divert funding into their military, they ain’t doing shit. Would they even have the energy to support that uptick in industry?
Already happened months ago, you ape.
best equipped means nothing. you can have the ten best equipped soldiers in the world and still he wouldnt be lying
Germany should strive to match the US at ~3.5% of GDP which I think would put Germany around $130-145B/year up from their current ~$50B/year
And what would Germany do with that army then?
Well the US would like to see additional European allies participate in operations in the Pacific. Germany should invest in a strong navy and air force with a focus on missile defense and anti-air capabilities.
Hell with that kind of money germany could actually complete their 6th generation fighter project by ~2035 instead of 2040+, and they could even afford to look at a naval carrier launched version and build the first german aircraft carrier to enter service.
>Well the US would like to see additional European allies participate in operations in the Pacific. Germany should invest in a strong navy and air force with a focus on missile defense and anti-air capabilities.
>Hell with that kind of money germany could actually complete their 6th generation fighter project by ~2035 instead of 2040+, and they could even afford to look at a naval carrier launched version and build the first german aircraft carrier to enter service.
None of that has any value to Germany.
Germany has no interest in the Pacific and no need for the force projection carrier nets you.
>germany has no interest in maintaining world peace and global access to markets.
lol okay
Raise their eyebrow and Poland will understand everything!
Could've easily conquered Poland in the 90s, I doubt the thought has become more appealing since then.
>world peace
Doesn't exist and wouldn't be maintained by Germany either.
>global access to markets
Germany is pretty connected, there is no significant market on this planet that wants to be cut off from the EU.
Yes, and to prove that point, we need to see EU naval forces acting to dissuade Chinese aggression in the pacific.
If China see the US, SK, Japan, Australia, and the EU/UK all standing against them in the pacific expansion/aggression that goes a long way to maintaining peace and trade.
>Yes, and to prove that point, we need to see EU naval forces acting to dissuade Chinese aggression in the pacific.
Sounds like something Germany shouldn't get involved in for no reason.
You wanna be the global hegemon? Do your own dirty work.
>If China see the US, SK, Japan, Australia, and the EU/UK all standing against them in the pacific expansion/aggression that goes a long way to maintaining peace and trade
Who the frick cares if China invades korea or Taiwan?
>muh aggression
whatever mutt, I know your masters want to remove all competition, I have the minimum sanity not to mistake theirs interests for my own
hard sell for a golem, I imagine
>rants about "muh israelites"
>simping for china
Ironic considering chinks
>the eternal Germ back to it's old tricks again
>euros will all have armies to prep for non existent enemy
>well I guess we better use them
>euro land war 2041
leclercs fighting leopards fighting altays fighting k2pls? i mean it would be horrible but imagine the kino
NOT IF THE VLADIVOSTOK PARTY BUS HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT