Winter is coming

Which tanks fight better in snow? Leopard or Abrams?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    this ninja warrior shit is so fricking infantile, i sometimes dont know whether i'm ok /k/ or the call of duty forums

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Abrams have the power, but leopards have speed and agility. if i had to bet, I got money on the leopard swooping in and landing a big banger head on

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        And where is Challenger 2 or LeClerc in this hypothetical competition?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I always thought they had the same gun

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          ENGINE power.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same gun but in reality Tungsten can't match the penetration or after armor effect of depleted uranium.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            depends on velocity.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Eh, kinda. Tungsten only outperforms DU at extreme velocities like 2000 m/s but you could just make a longer DU penetrator which while slower will have a greater penetration than the faster tungsten projectile (penetration is mostly a matter of density, projectile length, and velocity). The US uses slow (1500ish m/s) projectiles with really long penetrators allowing them to outperform German ammunition fired from the L/55.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/fwF3qSG.png

          Same gun but in reality Tungsten can't match the penetration or after armor effect of depleted uranium.

          Don't newer Leos have the longer version? Did the Abrams ever get that upgrade?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >THIS SUMMER
      >THE WORLDS DEADLIEST TANK
      >against... THE WORLDS DEADLIEST TANK
      >in a competition full of weird ass hypotheticals, but devoid of any real informed input
      >we put TWO TONKS
      >in a POOL full of SCORPIONS
      >after FLOODING them with HOT SAUCE
      >and replaced their main guns WITH PLASTIC SWORDS
      >in an UNDERWATER
      >TANK
      >JOUSTING COMPETITION
      >in a BURNING DUCK BROTHEL
      >on THE MOON

      really it's never like "oh so basically we have no idea about either tank/soldier/gun/armor's capabilities and most of the time victory and defeat hinge on the most random shit like a soldier not paying attention or a dead rabbit getting stuck in the optics so the real answer is that nobody fricking knows", it's always this dumb ass clickbait shit full of variables that make zero sense in situations that are even dumber

      >who would in in a zombie apocalypse, 10 navy seals who have type 2 diabetes or 10 spetznatz who are allergic to cucumbers and squirrels
      like homie what the frick is this competition even, how often does this shit happen irl

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tank jousting sounds awesome

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          More fun that horse jousting for sure

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hysterical post

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dude it is fricking May

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Winter is still coming (in 6 months)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. It's not going to be a "real" winter in Ukraine until January at least. So that's almost 8 months from now.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if russkies are going to push "they're going to freeze!" this winter.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes, they will.
          ukrainians were "freezing" every winter since orange revolution (with a short break during yanukovich cadence)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Haha, stupid hohols were preparing against freezing in winter, but you know what? They'll never see coming freezing in SUMMER

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it is fricking May
      ˙ɹǝʞuɐM ǝıssn∀ ɐ s,ǝH 'uou∀ ǝɔıN ǝᙠ

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finns use Leopards, I guess they work better than Abrams

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it doesn't matter. All western Tanks outperform the russian shit.

    They will always be better at everything. The minimal differences between western tanks don't matter a little bit when they blow russian trash into the orbit, since they will always fight shoulder to shoulder against their enemys.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      do amerimutts really believe this?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do ziggers really believe otherwise?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no, its not

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Winter is coming
    So you live in the south hemisphere, kek

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Winter is coming
    Black person are you from New Zealand or something? It isn't even fricken summer yet.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know about snow leopards

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leos are better suited for winter warfare, but they're not as good as their Swedish modification (Stridsvagn)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just curious, what are the differences?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        None that are relevant for arctic warfare.
        Compared to A5
        >Add-on Armor
        >Upgraded C2 system
        >Upgraded FCS
        >Improved suspension for the added weight
        >+ some minor things
        Most Leopard platforms are rather old and are upgraded as time goes on, the upgrade packages are modular and are either exchangable or build on top of each other so to speak, the Stridsvagn is an upgrade to the A5.
        The A6 has the improved L/55 cannon, the Stridsvagn doesn't afaik but they are "upgrade-ready" to accept the longer gun.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing can beat T-90 in this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the t90 is totally unstoppable, luckily ukraine captured a whole bunch of them so the counteroffensive will certianly succeed

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will Abrams even be in Ukraine by winter?

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    abrams does well on snow but it needs almost twice as much gas as the leopard 2.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leopards, but not to a degree that you'd have to worry about using an Abrams in any meaningful way if your country has the logistics to use them in the first place.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams is probably better, but it really depends. If its the Sep V3 with the AMP and M829A4, then yeah no contest, the Abrams wins 9 outta 10 times.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Scratching that itch under the turret

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/gKGlFpB.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/i3Qgcsn.jpg

      Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark and Canada all use Leopard 2's.

      So I would say the Leopard 2.

      Doesn't it snow in USA too? Why would M1 work in snow?

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a better question: Summer is coming so which tank has the best A/C? Do russian tanks even have good enough ventilation to keep from cooking the crew on a hot day?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russian tanks can cook crews in any weather.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What was that tank who's heater was so anemic the driver would get frostbite?

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      t80bvm

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever the scandies are using.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    abrams is inferior to other tanks because it has absurd logistical demands compared to the leo while having very similar capabilities

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark and Canada all use Leopard 2's.

    So I would say the Leopard 2.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      is it just me or is the turret abnormally long on this leopard?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit that's a good looking Leopard

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        something about tanks in snow is very comfy

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yeh, the snowy forest/tundra is kino. Anything military related looks cool up there. Maybe it needs a thread for kino snow warfare.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >LAST ACTION HERO

      finally, some good tank names

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      jesus that's fricking hot, hnnnggg

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best pic of a snow leopard pack
      https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2015/12/norwegian-leopard-2a4no-main-battle.html
      That last phot is LIT! I love the tracer effect.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both the Leopard and Abrams tanks are designed to operate in a variety of environments and weather conditions, including snow. However, each tank has different features and capabilities that may make them more or less effective in a snow-covered battlefield.

    The Leopard 2 tank is known for its agility, maneuverability, and excellent cross-country performance. It has a low ground pressure and advanced suspension system that can help it navigate through difficult terrain, including snow. The Leopard 2 also has a powerful engine and good power-to-weight ratio, which gives it good mobility and acceleration in snowy conditions. Additionally, its advanced thermal imaging and targeting systems allow it to operate effectively in low-visibility environments, such as snowstorms or blizzards.

    On the other hand, the M1 Abrams tank is known for its heavy armor, firepower, and durability. While it may not be as agile or maneuverable as the Leopard 2, it can still navigate through snow-covered terrain using its tracks and powerful engine. The Abrams also has advanced targeting systems, including a thermal imaging system that can help it detect targets in snowy conditions.

    In general, both tanks are capable of operating in snowy environments, and their effectiveness may depend on the specific conditions of the battlefield. However, the Leopard 2's superior mobility and agility may give it an advantage in navigating through deep snow or difficult terrain, while the Abrams' heavy armor and firepower may be more useful in a defensive role. Ultimately, the success of either tank in a snowy battlefield will depend on a variety of factors, including the skill and training of the crew, the terrain and weather conditions, and the tactics and strategy employed by the military.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      leo 2 has better firepower on the move and superior protection in the frontal arc but its not that much faster than the abrams

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    K2 for South Korean winters

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A new challenger has arrived.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better pic posted here

      https://i.imgur.com/wUf5APi.jpg

      Shit that's a good looking Leopard

      1/10 low effort

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams. Gas turbine engines don't give a frick about cold weather, its why russia prefers to keep T-80s in their arctic regions.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Leos will, but this is because it is what the crews have trained on all the time. It doesn't really matter what an Abrams can do better if the crew goes crosseyed at the sight of snow.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Abrams
    is'nt the abrams optimized for the desert, or is it just the merkava?

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