Winter Camping

What's the best way to get started? I'm trying to think of the best ways to stay warm overnight without having to break the bank.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Best way without spending a lot of money? Stay home.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Whats the minimum gear?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A 0 degree bag, a high R-value pad, a decent tent that can withstand wind and snow, and a proper clothes system will get you more than halfway to winter camping. The rest is just stuff you'd bring camping with you in the summer.

        The best way to start is to go car camping in fall or spring when it's still cold at night, but isn't likely to bring snowstorms or freezing rain. Car camping gear is usually cheaper but heavier than backpacking gear. After you get some confidence that you won't die then you can spring for the backpacking

        All that fancy shit like saws and axes and stoves aren't necessary, but can be fun if you're into it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >without having to break the bank
        winter backpacking is expensive.
        if you don't have a few thousand dollars for gear then stay home in the winter or stick to day hiking. that's not gatekeeping its just honesty.

        decent 4 season tents start around $700
        decent insulated sleeping pads start at $200
        etc

        A 0 degree bag, a high R-value pad, a decent tent that can withstand wind and snow, and a proper clothes system will get you more than halfway to winter camping. The rest is just stuff you'd bring camping with you in the summer.

        The best way to start is to go car camping in fall or spring when it's still cold at night, but isn't likely to bring snowstorms or freezing rain. Car camping gear is usually cheaper but heavier than backpacking gear. After you get some confidence that you won't die then you can spring for the backpacking

        All that fancy shit like saws and axes and stoves aren't necessary, but can be fun if you're into it.

        yeah this especially if you don't have the money to drop on proper gear just car camp in the winter and do end of fall camping and get used to it.
        winter camping is the one time where if your gear is inadequate you don't just have to tough it through a bad night, you die.

        >Car camping
        >PrepHole

        realistically if anon is a budget, backpacking is not an option in the winter.

        https://i.imgur.com/JslP9w0.jpg

        best piece of gear I've gotten for winter camping is a pair of down socks including overboots. I hate cold feet, even if the rest of my body feels warm.

        I only have a 3 season sleeping bag, but I can add a warm liner and sleep in merino underwear and it's sufficient.

        these things are great i don't know why i went so long without buying a pair. "luxury" and "glamping" my ass. i like to wake up knowing i still have my toes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Slipping into those instead of a cold pair of boots in the morning is the best

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            being able to have something on your feet that isn't a dirty boot inside your tarp/tent/etc is under rated

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the info.

          What about the idea of using a tarp, a fire close by,, a winter sleeping bag and proper clothes?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            As well as a raised bed with padding.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >winter camping is expensive
          >ignores thousands of years of human history

          gosh how did people survive without 2000$ worth of sweat shop garbage

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >gosh how did people survive without 2000$ worth of sweat shop garbage
            NTA. Are you moronic? All of premodern existence in the northern half of Europe (and many other places, I'm sure) revolved around surviving winter. Entire religions centered around this, to the point that the Christians had to hybridize with pagan tradition to gain a foothold. Yule is a celebration of being halfway through. Baldr dies and is reborn, the sun is eternally victorious.
            To answer your question, I guess by working dozens of hours per week for half a dozen months, and then doing it all over again next year, while living in a society dedicated to this, with cultic worship that reinforced it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            A lot of people didn't survive

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            lol survival rates for early explorers were not so good.
            >muh sweat shop garbage
            yes, you do indeed need a tent that can handle snow pack that won't kill you with condensation in the winter. $700 is the low low low end might even have to go used.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >The various clothes and accoutrements found with him are truly remarkable, since they formed the gear of a Neolithic traveler. The Iceman’s basic piece of clothing was an unlined fur robe stitched together from pieces of ibex, chamois, and deer skin. A woven grass cape and a furry cap provided additional protection from the cold, and he wore shoes made of leather and stuffed with grass. The Iceman was equipped with a small copper-bladed ax and a flint dagger, both with wooden handles; 14 arrows made of viburnum and dogwood, two of which had flint points and feathers; a fur arrow quiver and a bow made of yew; a grass net that may have served as a sack; a leather pouch; and a U-shaped wooden frame that apparently served as a backpack to carry this gear. His scant food supply consisted of a sloeberry, mushrooms, and a few gnawed ibex bones.

            yeah even back in the day you needed a bunch of gear, even 5000 years ago they were using what was effectively techwear and cutting edge technology (the axe especially) for the time. some of the materials they had access to are better than what we use now, like types of furs we don't use for ethical reasons.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They didn't backpack in the same sense that we do.
            People absolutely made hunting camps and similar during the winter, but they had animals to carry their stuff for them. Dogsled, mules, horses, etc. Lacking these, it would be impossible to carry the quantity of stuff you'd need to set up a low-tech winter camp. Lacking animals, you probably wouldn't aim to "backpack" in the winter unless you absolutely had to.

            https://i.imgur.com/BRey2OV.jpg

            What's the best way to get started? I'm trying to think of the best ways to stay warm overnight without having to break the bank.

            I once slept through a light snowstorm at like 20 degrees. Used a tarp draped over a lean-to frame. Had to use my 20-degree bag, a down coat, and long johns. I caught maybe 5 hours of sleep. Not fun.
            I think you could extend the range of a 3-season bag with a liner and warm clothes. Some gear recommendations:
            >Balaclava
            One of the big thick fleece ones. You can minimize the heat lost from your face.
            >Gaiters
            Keeping the snow outta your ankles is nice (or so I'm told)
            >Tarp instead of tent
            hear me out. Pitched over a triangular stick frame and staked in well, it can keep the wet walls off of you. It also allows marginally better ventilation. If you're fine with cutting some dead wood for the shelter, a tarp is good.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the amount of furs and pelts they were wearing and sleeping in would probably cost you 5,000 dollars today

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >if you don't have a few thousand dollars for gear then stay home in the winter or stick to day hiking. that's not gatekeeping its just honesty.
          This is so wrong. If you want to be comfortable it may be true, but you can still winter backpack on a budget. Just need a strong back.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a 0 degree bag. Mine was from Amazon for like $70.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >0 degree bag
    >floorless shelter with stove jack and stove
    you're not going to burn the wood all night but it will help take off the cold at night and in the mornings

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Keeping some coals going makes a huge difference.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In my experience it gets the coldest around 2 or 3 in the morning. whats the point of hot tenting, when my stove will have burned out by then?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Small, lightweight cold weather gear is expensive. Bulky cold weather gear is cheap and just fine for car camping.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Car camping
      >PrepHole

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't have to be a developed campsite. But I would definitely recommend car camping for beginner winter camping, even if budget weren't an issue.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    best piece of gear I've gotten for winter camping is a pair of down socks including overboots. I hate cold feet, even if the rest of my body feels warm.

    I only have a 3 season sleeping bag, but I can add a warm liner and sleep in merino underwear and it's sufficient.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >but people backpacked before modern gear and
    yeah but they also died all the time.
    and you ancestors spent the entire year planning their survival of the winter if you're from a nordic climate. you didn't.
    winter backpacking costs like $3-5 grand not counting your existing 3 season gear. maybe a bit cheaper if you really penny pinch and stay home when it isn't 'good' winter weather. there's no way to do it safely cheaply.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >but there's like $300 winter tents
    those are meant for like, expeditions where you have a base camp with a real shelter and hike out to places from it for a day or two.
    you don't want that to be your only tent. they don't handle much snow pack.
    oh but speaking of winter tents random pro tip:
    poke the ceiling of your tent with a trekking pole periodically to knock snow pack off it. if it ever sags, stick your pole in the ground extend it and use it to prop your tent up from the inside. sort of how like trekking pole tents work, but with a freestander.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just do colder and colder stuff. One night of being a little unprepared is something you won't easily forget and will surely cause you to be more prepared the next time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I agree, I'm gonna start with fall camping soon, get a feel for the weather changes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      best suggestion itt. effective and to the point

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I camp with a little buddy heater in a 3 season tent. You'll get about 4-6 hours or of one can. I might put mylar between the rainfly and the mesh.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I just press in the shrader and huff the gas, keeps me.warm for days in the dead of winter. No one wants to bother the guy shitting in the middle of the trail with a gun huffing that sweet, sweet propane. Get good, you faker.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have never in my life seen snow.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What's the best way to get started?
    By watching yuru camp

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What's the best way to get started?
    By watching yuru camp.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Did the asiatics copy the LARPer or is it the other way around?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you can take your backpacking tent with a winter liner and an extra sleeping pad with a warmer bag and twice the gear and do fine for a night or two with a good weather forecast going in but to backpack through the winter whenever you want you need a pretty expensive tent. and bag. and pad. and clothes. and you'll need a new backpack because all this shit is big and heavy and will be 20L more than your normal gear no matter what size it was to begin with. etc. it adds up.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to be comfy in winter, there's all sorts of gear these days, but one thing I will recommend that changed my life back when I did it more often was a legit down filled sleeping pad. I would spend the most on the DAM because once that is good you other gear doesn't have to be as nice. I have a Stephenson, but those are expensive as frick now, so I recommend checking out other brands. You really need something to insulate you from the ground at night to get good sleep.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pad or bed?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        mine looks like this, I never got the full system because I never needed it, I have a four season tent and it's about 40 fahrenheit in there when it's single digits outside

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Put on a lot of body fat

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    buy a fricking camper, lmao
    i used to do the boy scout winter camp thing, got my "polar bear badge" or whatever, overnight temp below zero. Frick ever doing that shit again.
    If I get cold, I reach over and bump the thermostat up a little.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have any experience with those Russian milsup tents with the stoves built in? Not sure if there's an official name/category for them, but they look comfy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Any link?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Couldn't find exactly what I was thinking about, but this is pretty close

        https://canadianpreparedness.com/products/russian-bear-sputnik-woodstove-tent-3-person

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    down

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    do any of you wear sherpa jackets? I have a few and they are very warm and pretty affordable

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can I get a good winter set up for 2k or am I fricked?

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