WINNERS OF THE WAR, SO FAR

ITT: We post winners of the war. Weapons and actors (e.g. economic)
Weapons that have attained legend status. They are not necessarily the best but they were there at the right moment

>HIMARS: only weapon that deserves the gamechanger title. Destroyed the whole Russian logistics system of 2022, on its own
>Javelin: played a major role in fending off the Russian offensive against Keef. Parents name their daughters Javelina
>NLAW: same as above. Defender of Keef
>Bayraktar TB2: Same as above. Has a song dedicated to it.
>Bradley: Soldiers are giving raving reviews and praise its crew protection. Brings the squads through endless minefields. And potentially saved a triple digit number of soldiers' lives.

Other actors
>Krauss Maffei Wegmann with their PZH 2000. Ukraine have ordered 100 more pieces.
>Rheinmetall: They are already staking their claims in Ukraine.
>BAE systems. Also making big moves.They want to build a factory that constructs L119. Furthermore, Ukraine ordered up 1000 CV 90.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Not a single british weapon
    why?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah what about Storm Shadow

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ShitShadow has been useless

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The pile of dead Russian leadership and ammo depots says otherwise. Ukraine has no agility for deep BDA in Russian territory so we're lacking impact footage other what civilians upload but Russia clamped down heavily on that after a few weeks of regular Storm Shadow and other strikes causing embarrassing questions at home.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a Warriortard thread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NLAW ist British

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Joint development, made in the UK, supplied by the UK.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The F35 was a joint development

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think the J in JSF stood for? F-35 wouldn't exist without the UK. We rolled our 5th gen program and our supersonic harrier replacement program into F-35 and it's predecessor projects. There's a reason it was first flown by a British pilot.

            • 2 weeks ago
              äää

              >There's a reason it was first flown by a British pilot.
              Jon Beesley is not british. He is from Idaho. you may has misremembered a local news story from the Londonstani Times or whatever about the first UK flight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No its a swedish weapon developed by saab dynamics (formerly bofors) which was partially funded by the brits and is now used and manufactured in britain & sweden. Its basically a shorter range, man portable version of the BILL 2 atgm from the early 90's. Does not stop brits from taking all the credit though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >which was partially funded by

          Almost entirely funded by, SAAB themselves say it's a joint development. Manufacture is in Northern Ireland by Thales UK. Brits take credit because we flew 10,000 of them into Ukraine on C17's in the weeks before the war.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            based britbongs dabbing on the vatniks

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >1853 - dab on vatniks in Ukraine
              >2023 - dab on vatniks in Ukraine
              history repeats itself

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When will Boris Johnson (pbuh) storm the walls of Sevastopol?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                when Nato finally gets the balls to appoint him leader. Boris Johnson (pbuh) will be the first to raise the Nato flag over the kremlin

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. The Brits actual contribution is logistics and politics. Without them warning about the war in advance and shipping a ton of weapons to Ukraine before the invasion, well before even the US did, Ukraine wouldn’t have stood a chance. There’s a reason Boris Johnson is extremely popular on Ukraine and no amount of autistic screeching about who made what will change that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ist
        Bernd detektiert

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The L118 light gun is a 105 mm towed howitzer. It was originally designed and produced in the United Kingdom for the British Army in the 1970s. It has since been widely exported. The L119 and the United States Army's M119 are variants that use a different type of ammunition.
      >The L119 variant has a different barrel (a slightly shorter L20 ordnance with a percussion firing mechanism) for firing the ubiquitous US M1 type ammunition (UK 105 mm How), giving the gun a max range of 11,400 metres (12,500 yd)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because this a warriortard thread, he got btfo in the Falkland war thread and now made a new one, but you already knew that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is warriortard in the room with you?
        NLAW is British no?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          It's interesting to see which posts in this thread got deleted at the same time:
          https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/59518197/
          To no ones surprise the 'I'm not warriortard' post was one of his.

          You don't see warriortard in this thread, because his posts got deleted or at least the ones from one of his devices.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was seething about the Falklands again? That's always a fun one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NLAW?? What other British weapon has been as massive as any of the things listed? Storm Shadow is a maybe, but otherwise nothing is particularly standout. Starstreak is cool but it’s not like it’s the best of the AA systems sent to Ukraine, and none of those (IRIS-T, Gepard, Patriot) got shout outs… seriously, what British weapons (aside from the NLAW, which is already mentioned in the post that you claim has no British weapons) are worth noting???

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The british contribution to the NLAW is a fibre glass tube.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NLAW is party British and BAE (British Aerospace Engineering) are a British company whose Swedish division make the CV90.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They weren't up to the challenge

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Meh

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1000 CV-90
    Gosh golly those poor russians

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How has the CV90 been doing anyway?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They had some issues with dust filters clogging and there being too few replacements, but a shipment later that was solved I think. Also the ukies are using them without dismounts like light tanks which isnt tactically ideal, but they appear to be content with their protection, mobility etc.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Also the ukies are using them without dismounts

          Here's some recent training footage from 93rd Mechanized Brigade. Interesting times ahead for the CV90.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice. Hope we get to see some combat footage like that. You kinda need to have enough real tanks around for an IFV to do its thing though, and getting everything needed in one place at one time seems hard to do.

            Also, it just occured to me, why is it so rare to see footage of tanks/ifvs using their machineguns in this conflict? There's a lot of situations where a decent amount of suppressive MG fire would have seemed useful.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That stealthy French missile

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bradley, the liberator of robotyne

    ?si=WXWYQNpUjmDT2rev

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the western gear seems to be performing well tbh.

    The only thing I've seen complaints about is the French AMX-10 since it's a bit of a tin can and heavily armed recon is less useful in minefields.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >light tanks is not suitable for breakthrough attempts
      Shocking.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ukies mostly actually complained about it not having sufficient shrapnel protection from artillery and drone grenade drops

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bayraktar TB2
    Dropped off hard as soon as the Russians made some attempt at AA. Now it's just another recond drone.
    Which makes it interesting when you think the Turks have a carrier for these things. It will be able to beat rag-tag insurgents at least.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      keep in mind that unlike the Ukrainians, the turks have a huge air force of over 200 modernized F16s, more than Israel has. And the garden gnomes have no problem ripping apart 3rd work air defense networks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the turks have a huge air force of over 200 modernized F16s, more than Israel has
        only missing the 50 F15 strike eagles and 75 F35

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Drones are cheap to sell off and upgrade vs. the horrors of replacing manned aircraft. Those doubting this are not aircraft maintainers.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd add Poseidon, flyeye and globalhawk

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Gepard I guess, the old Cold war era junk nobody though it still had any purpose pretty much surged back from the scrapeyard with little Angel wings

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Ahh I just came from that thread and it looked like warriortard won
    Kek, yeah. He won so hard he stopped posting while everyone was laughing at his dumb ass.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Quit deflecting from your disgusting fetish, warriortard.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    He "won" as hard as when he doxxed his own twitter account and had to lock it down.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >All the other guys were off topic posting about farts for some reason

    Because warriortard (you) doxxed yourself and we found your fart fetish twitter account. Now all that effort you've put into brit hate threads has been undone and you'll never post here again without being reminded that you should have a nice day.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    But i thought it wasn't warriortard and only a copycat? You already stopped with that nonsense?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There's at least 5 of us here, because these were't me.

    [...]
    >Ahh I just came from that thread and it looked like warriortard won
    Kek, yeah. He won so hard he stopped posting while everyone was laughing at his dumb ass.

    [...]
    Quit deflecting from your disgusting fetish, warriortard.

    [...]
    He "won" as hard as when he doxxed his own twitter account and had to lock it down.

    [...]
    >All the other guys were off topic posting about farts for some reason

    Because warriortard (you) doxxed yourself and we found your fart fetish twitter account. Now all that effort you've put into brit hate threads has been undone and you'll never post here again without being reminded that you should have a nice day.

    and i also think you're reaping what you sowed. You want to become a board personality, and now we know more about you, you've become one. sorry if you were hoping to control the narrative warriorfart.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DJI: their drones are used on both sides
    Stugna-p: has given us many hours of Russian astronaut footage
    Lancet: only piece of Russian equipment that comes close to working as advertised
    South Korea: this was has gotten their MIC a lot of new sales

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DJI
      Probably the most prominent and important winner of the war. They use a lot of homemade / other drones now but DJI drones are THE drones.
      Changed not only how this war is fought but will change future wars conflicts and weapon designs as well

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even after moving over to custom drones, they still use a lot of dji controllers and headsets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian equipment is known for being cheap, barely survivable and terrible for the crew
      >Most effective thing Russia ever made was an unmanned suicide drone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stugna-p
      How many russian helicopter kills does it have by now? I recall at least two.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only piece of Russian equipment
      design: stolen from Israel
      camera and electronics: stolen from West
      the only thing Russian: warhead, absolutely underpowered piece of shit that 50% has power of confetti

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >design: stolen from Israel
        lol, they out garden gnomeed the garden gnomes.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You are a fart fetish simp who spends your day whining about an irrelevant island

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bushmasters. The Sympaq cardboard drone.
    Australian anti-drone tech, and of course the EOS RWS that are being strapped to everything, including the autocannon version which is being used to fuck up Russian drones, which is strapped to the backs of mtlbs

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Wait, warriortard, were you also glowie screecher? This kind of posts is pretty recognisable.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Its truly fucking strange. Everyone knows bong MIC is trash, even the bong MIC do or else they wouldn't constantly lie and deflect about their products, but for some reason; pale spectacled military nerds from Swindon are the only ones who refuse to accept it. Who are they trying to convince? I tell yah, in 20 years time people will write sociology papers about online bong cope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can do what they want in 20 years, but right now we're talking about your tweets

      sensible man
      @Burp00589615
      May 26
      Replying to @Hambubger3 @DocStrangelove2
      It’s garbage. The British suck at weapons design

      sensible man
      @Burp00589615
      May 15
      Replying to @sweetbaby2354 @upby500
      Can you really fart on command? Do you have an OF

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Javelin: played a major role in fending off the Russian offensive against Kyiv.
    It was mainly two artillery battallions doing the bulk of the heavy lifting according to the ukranian command. try again

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to rag on brits but then i realised i was on the same side as this fart weirdo so now i don't want to be associated with him. I'm sorry Britain.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This post reeks of farts and i'm glad i'm not associated with it. We are going to bully the shit out of you like you deserve.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'm not warriortard,

    Not convincing, no one would rush to the defence to a hated deviant like warriotard.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >well, you see i'm not warriortard, who is a complete lunatic, who spends days rambling over the same things like a schizo, who is a digusting unlikeable hated character, but we need to see all past that for whatever fabricated stupid reason so him shitting up the board actually works!
    How about no?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HIMARS
    How come people always ignore the German MARS2 and British version whose name nobody remembers which are all pretty similar but with different names?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      himars is more sexy name, also high speed low drag fast wheeled boi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably because vatniks kept seething about it and constantly claimed they killed another one while they never actually did.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The high mobility part is important.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >German MARS2
      Because it has proven to be useless anywhere but on polygons.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No Krab but pzh 2000
    Sure Helmut

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > PZH 2000 is mentioned even though it gained a reputation of unreliable.
    > AHS Krab is not mentioned even though it gained a reputation of the most dependable western SpGH
    > Bren 2 is not mentioned even though it gained a reputation of NATO's AK
    > Piorun is not mentioned even though it is gained reputation of a good MANPAD which led to international orders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why haven't the Ukrainians ordered 100 Craps then?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine ordered about 60 more. Poland can't produce more quickly, it has to replace it's own stocks:
        https://mezha.media/en/2022/06/08/poland-sells-to-ukraine-more-than-50-new-155-mm-ahs-krab/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Manufacturing limits, at the time being the most you could make including fully committing all of your resources for the production of a single artillery system HSW could produce only 28 pieces in a year, it's the reason why Poland ordered a lot of K9s from south Korea meanwhile expanding production lines for Krab, which now are slowly but surely getting to having higher production capabilities to satisfy both polish and Ukrainian needs simultaneously,
        Also don't understand why people believe that Krab has bad accuracy despite it still has perfect capability at removing your toilet from existence from 40km away with an unguided shell

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Also don't understand why people believe that Krab has bad accuracy...
          Unironically becuse Polish "cheerleders" won't stop making inflated claims to beat the "german" gear, even in this thread. If you've constantly got people trying to make the good sound incredible then people will think it's compensating for something.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The accuracy is comparable, the only difference is that first, Krab is semi automatic, second has newer computer installed inside, targeting software is the same, Krab is better by being far more reliable, people don't compensate about anything, the thing was done by principle take the best qualities from best examples of said qualities, and you got AHS Krab being made out licensed technologies yet a literal amalgamation of best decision combined in a single vehicle, it was just built to include every best idea that was on the market at the time, not every claim is correct, because both are NATO made artillery with similar tech included, but what is correct Krab as the creature it was named from is a sort of form of best ideas combined in one being

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PZH 2000 is mentioned even though it gained a reputation of unreliable.
      this never happened
      Supply of parts was the issue and getting a repair station going in Poland

      Ukraine ordered about 60 more. Poland can't produce more quickly, it has to replace it's own stocks:
      https://mezha.media/en/2022/06/08/poland-sells-to-ukraine-more-than-50-new-155-mm-ahs-krab/

      Ukies liked the Pzh2000 so much that they already placed orders for its successor the RCH 155

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this never happened
        It did. Taras Chmut in his interview literally said that PzH2000 is good but unreliable like many other products of German engineering XDD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, of course it would be unreliable after firing 20.000 of the estimated 4.500 rounds it was rated for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Piorun got a reputation if not just a good manpad, but the best manpad Ukraine ever used, with ease ignoring any protection of an aircraft and gaining many kills

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >glorified Igla
        >bestest manpad
        Huh?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Meanwhile a single piorun missile statistically having leagues higher intellect than people who compare it to igla

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AHS Krab is not mentioned even though it gained a reputation of the most dependable western SpGH
      Didn't they all get destroyed or was that a different SPG? I genuinely can't remember.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AHS Krab is not mentioned even though it gained a reputation of the most dependable western SpGH
      *least
      They lost several to reliability issues. That's not the case for others, including the PzH2k.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say the panzerfaust 3 and that smol polish rpg, for proving that cheaper stuff than javelins/nlaw are mighty useful for a multitude of targets

      kek, hi grotard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >smol polish rpg
        Komar got remanufactured into warheads for suicide drones, right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i think there were even reusable drones with them strapped underneath
          regardless, with pzf3 costing 200-300$ per shot and the komar's probably even cheaper, it gives infantry a way to blow shit up without thinking twice about wasting expensive hardware.
          I can see Poland starting production of an updated komar and Germany additional warhead types because why would you deprive your soldiers of their capabilities at that pricepoint?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I can see Poland starting production of an updated komar
            I think they are. Some Polish anon posted an article but it was in Polish so I can't confirm how accurate it is

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          komar still uses regular RPG rounds.

          I still maintain that the RPG7 drones are fake. The "red" drone image has drones that are too weak to lift charge, and the original video was doctored to include the RPG round in the center of the video. That vid made a coupl eof rounds around here WITHOUT that charge in the center before it became popular with the warhead in it.

          Don't get me wrong, I'm a moderate that wishes for all Russians to hang and for TZD, but that drone-RPG7 combo is so much nonsense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >> PZH 2000 is mentioned even though it gained a reputation of unreliable.
      >> AHS Krab is not mentioned even though it gained a reputation of the most dependable western SpGH
      Those are the delusions of Polish twatter tards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shoot six thousand shells
        >gun finally gives up
        >somehow that means its shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          according to PiStards it means something when pzh 2000s need maintenance....

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol warrior farts thread got deleted. Even the mods are repulsed by him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's interesting to see which posts in this thread got deleted at the same time:
      https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/59518197/
      To no ones surprise the 'I'm not warriortard' post was one of his.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also kek'd at how the 'warriortard won' post also got deleted, he's such a self absorbed insecure gay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao that's great seeing how pathetic he is. I'll need to bookmark that archive.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Parents name their daughters Javelina
    That's a type of wild pig.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peccary

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was very surprised when I moved away from Arizona and found out nobody else calls it a javelina

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some Texans do. Had no idea wtf they were talking about for the longest time.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most decisive weapon of this war has been #ganglosphere glowies penetrating the Russian government and military so thoroughly that the bitch has already given birth to one bastard baby and there’s another one due any day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >literally read Russian generals' emails and publicly announce the date of invasion, forcing you to delay

      lol lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seriously. We haven’t seen glowops on this scale since the good old days of the SIS and OSS.
        How many army corps, division and brigade commanders have the Ukies wacked by now? I think they even bagged an army group commander after the Kharkiv rout didn’t they? It’s ridiculous.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bradley: Soldiers are giving raving reviews and praise its crew protection. Brings the squads through endless minefields. And potentially saved a triple digit number of soldiers' lives.
    I wonder how Burton cope with it

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Challenger kino is around the corner

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot

    > Lancet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He said winners. Not losers shilled by thirdies.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Biggest winners
    These two right here, prove me wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only relative to russia; it isnt so much that theyve been uplifted, but big bro russia has been kicked down to their level

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest winners are everyone who isn't Russia, ally or enemy alike. Russia's enemies get to deal it a crippling blow that it won't recover from for the rest of the century, Russia's "allies" get to bend it over the table and make unfair one-sided deals.

      Except for Potatoman, playing a constant battle of distancing himself from joining the war. God help Luka if he ever runs out of potatoes to peel so that Putin calls his bluff and tells him to come out to play.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        reminder that Russia is selling gas and oil to India and China for half the price. Sometimes really questioning what Putin was thinking

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oil to India effectively free since Russia isn't doing anything with the rupees it's being paid.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Oil to India effectively free
            since it is used as a export to EU because it isn't considered Russian anymore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about Armenia?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Armenia is going to flip over to NATO. Russia ignoring the entire Nagorno-Karabakh situation has been the death nail in the alliance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, Iran could have played it off and thrown Russia under the bus.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The biggest heel turn would have been if Trump was still around and he convinced Kim to sell to NATO, enough money and i'm sure they would.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it would have gone the same way as every other NK negotiations in the last 50 years.
          >"hey NK, do this thing"
          >"not unless you lift all sanctions and guarantee our security"
          >"not unless you commit to full denuclearization and fix your human rights issues"
          >"no"
          >"no"
          the end

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Iran could have played it off and thrown Russia under the bus
        They did. Biden agreed to lift sanctions on their oil industry and Iran will pushthe vatniks out of the chinese market.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The panzer 2000 is probably near himars in the amount of effectiveness it brought to the table. With the vulcano ammo was firing at up to 70Km targets firing a precise round every 5 seconds till he barrels gave out.

    The amount of work those things put in early on was insane. Some of of those SPG have gone through tens of of thousands of rounds individually by now.

    If Ukraine had some more of those (not many still working at this point) the counter battery fire would have been much better during this offensive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The panzer 2000 is probably near himars in the amount of effectiveness it brought to the table
      Only in Germoid dreams. Look up countless feedback about it being a malfunctioning, overengineered piece of shit from actual soldiers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Show 7 different sources accounting for what you claim.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will be interesting to see what version of gun they get, probably bushmaster 35mm.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SOON

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Forget about weapons or actors, the real winners here are maggots and crows.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guys war is so bad nobody is winning
      Bet you wish you had gotten into aerospace engineering right about now huh

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and how exactly are they going to afford 1000 of these when they are fucking broke and their country is ruined?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With the next bag of Biden Bux we send them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We spared no expense at TZD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are going to be fast tracked into the EU and then you will pay for them with your taxes 🙂

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doesnt mention people have been actively donating money to Ukraine juat to see more TZD

        India could have pulled the same trick by attacking the Himalayas but I guess they prefer to get pay Monopoly monke money to come here spam shit, they are like Russia, no, worse, can't even dare to take over Pakistan. At least Puccia tried to reconquer Ukraine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You make it sound so dirty.
        I call this money well spent.
        Between gypsy integration money that will sink into the abyss and a vatnik remover, guess which one we would choose.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds great, if only I could declare all of my taxes went to that instead of the other bs like unemployed people

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and then you will pay for them with your taxes 🙂

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>and then you will pay for them with your taxes 🙂
        >the reward is 300k dead Russians at least
        Based

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you say that like its a bad thing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Thinking this is a bad thing
        Why do third world countries think making friends is bad and spend all their time threatening their neighbors?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your taxes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because using other people to punish Commies for creating and promoting the entire global Left is a bargain.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're getting in on credit and Russia will pay for them as part of their massive war indemnity

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Moreover, why? If they won, Russia is shattered. Won't be a threat for at least 50 years, if ever.

      Y'all don't understand just how fucked Russia is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LMAO you think Sweden is broke? They have a shitload of money. Retard.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Krab should be placed among game-changers, and that joke that PzH-2000 be completely removed from the list.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >jury rigged drones dropping frags
    >Regular cheap drones used for spotting

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The OFFICIAL objective non pozzed list:

    Winners:
    >HIMARS
    >Iskander
    >Shadow Storm
    >FPV drones
    >Ukie naval suicide drones
    >Land mines

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh and also Lancet ofc

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lanshit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd add Patriot to the list. The amount of consistent intercepts including "muh hypersonic" Kinzhals the Patriots have had shhould make it one of the best air defence systems out there.
      And it's done all this with minimal return losses too. I think the Russians hit 1 launcher and that was repaired? Meanwhile Russian S-400s are getting blown up weekly.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am so fucking mad I didn't invest in BAE and Rhinemetal in November 2021.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BAE stock multiplied by 2 since the war began
      >same for Thales
      >Rheinmetall went from 100€ to 250€ after the war began
      I wish I weren't such a poorfag

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the real unsung hero of this war
    so many vids from last year of these beauties with the barrels red hot

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can the two Switchblade models be considered a bust?

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TB2: Same as above. Has a song dedicated to it.

    You've got to be fucking kidding me...
    The biggest dissapointment of the war.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Western gear does what it promises to be
    Frankly, very little of it was surprising. The surprising bits were always how shit russia was at dealing with it.
    Btw. its failures were hardly surprising either. We knew tanks cannot stand up to anti tank mines or modern ATGMs - we just hoped the russians would be too dumb to use them. Sadly it appears their stupidity has limits.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This thing will never stop being amusing to me. An absolute Frankenstein spg. What is it, a Korean chassis, a British turret and a French gun, produced in Poland? Did I miss anyone?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're right to be proud. Remember they took three iterations to make an ACR copy that doesn't have the build quality of a hi-point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blessed by a priest in Bulgaria.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guess the Gepard is a winner. Nobody thought it is valid and Germany got laughed at sending them!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats because France and Germany had to be pressured into sending equipment and have consistently remained defeatist about Ukraine. Meanwhile US, UK, Scandinavia and Poland/Baltics all refuse to engage with peace that isnt Russia fucking off and giving back Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesnt minimize the success of the Gepard. I just meant that nobody, even Ukraine or USA thought the Gepard is a good choice.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gepard really has stood the test of time far more than any other equipment used in Ukraine

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say that honor goes to trenches or tube artillery.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd also say the Maxim gun since even though there are other guns that replaced it for the most part it still is useful enough that it isn't going anywhere and still be serving in wars in years to come.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought about that too, but it's not like it's been used frequently. It only seemed viable in a defensive (or maybe mounted) role

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesnt minimize the success of the Gepard. I just meant that nobody, even Ukraine or USA thought the Gepard is a good choice.

      Ironically if Russia didn't go full retard and started to throw iranian lawn mower drones and anti ship missiles against cities to terrorbomb them, the redemtion arc would have been a lot smaller.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fair point. But considering the rise of drones, i wonder if drones would still be used just not the lawmower Shaheds!

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Played second fiddle to the Su-27 for 40 years
    >Abandoned and forgotten as Sukhoi bribed MoD
    >Gets up from its deathbed for one last sortie against impossible odds
    >Become a national symbol and cause vatniks to seethe for a year straight.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot: Destroyed all meme claims about hypersonics and is undefeated vs the Russian Air Force

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An actual realistic (for war needs, not sure if they can get the line going) number of IFVs.
    I thought I'd never see the day.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say NATO also won quite a bit
    >reaffirmed its raison d'être when more and more people were questioning whether or not the alliance is even needed anymore
    >renewed commitment by most efforts
    >bonus members
    >number one threat in Europe is currently being made harmless for at least a couple decades by a country that isn't even in NATO with only limited NATO support
    Did I miss anything?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If we're going geopolitical, the watermelon seller in Ankara has gained heavily from this war. He's got concessions from both sides by not siding too heavily with either but has been able to get away with shenanigans like the AZOV prisoner release without repercussions from Russia.
      The grain deal and his control of entry to the black sea has also been markedly important and probably won him some admiration on the world stage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shit's crazy. I can't imagine this shit will go well for him forever. But I definitely respect his hustle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In fairness its largely a distraction from the total mess that is the current Turkish economy and to try and get leverage so they can try and annex parts of Northern Syria. Erdogan also got a ton of shit in the last election and is desperate for wins to try and solidify his rule amid what was a lot closer run than hed have hoped for.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not as well versed in Turkish politics as I'd like. Are there any opposition politicians who look to side more heavily with either Ukraine or Russia? For instance, trying to open up international trade with Russia to try and boost the Turkish economy, or leaning harder into Ukraine support to gain more backing from Western powers (and a faster path into the EU)?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The opposition are the Republican Peoples Party who are very much like your typical western political party. Theyre Pro EU, Pro Nato and the usual policies that follow. They were founded by Kemal Ataturk (the literal father of modern Turkey and the Turkish Language). Their big stick is theyre secularist (kemalism in Turkey) which says they should be a secular nation while Erdogan is full mudslime tier delusions. They also differ on the Kurds and think the continuous bombing of kurdistan probably wont end the war. They are also anti putin/russia and supported Turkey helping NATO in their interventions.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds they cannot unseat Erdogan soon enough. His fiscal clownery might have made the Lira unsalvageable. It's not as if Erdogan isn't EU. But ironically the way he's trying to get in, it by forcing concessions, is exactly why Turkey or any other country can be let into the EU as things stand. One wildcard is already enough for them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His lunacy extends far beyond that. He genuinely believes he should be another Ottoman Sultan and wants to restablish the old empire. On the plus side its unclear if he will even make it to the next election now the lira is monopoly money and hes allowed a lot of the arms industry to be sold to qataris.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds they cannot unseat Erdogan soon enough. His fiscal clownery might have made the Lira unsalvageable. It's not as if Erdogan isn't EU. But ironically the way he's trying to get in, it by forcing concessions, is exactly why Turkey or any other country can be let into the EU as things stand. One wildcard is already enough for them.

              His lunacy extends far beyond that. He genuinely believes he should be another Ottoman Sultan and wants to restablish the old empire. On the plus side its unclear if he will even make it to the next election now the lira is monopoly money and hes allowed a lot of the arms industry to be sold to qataris.

              Thanks for the breakdown. Sounds like Turkey is unlikely to move in a Pro-Russia direction even if Erdogan loses the next election. On the other hand it'll be interesting if he loses and Russia tries to contend with losing one of the few somewhat neutral powers nearby, especially with the ongoing Syrian conflicts which both Russia and Turkey are involved in

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interestingly the opposition made some vague stuff about how unfair the election was around media bias but I also wouldnt be suprised if Putin lent a hand on ensuring Erdogan won. His party have been caught in the past selling shit to Iran to avoid sanctions. Id be suprised if the turks weren't up to the same shit again.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno. Turkey only played both sides because they assumed Russia was still Russia and not cold Nigeria. It's now obvious that NATO is the side to be on.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Javelin: played a major role in fending off the Russian offensive against Keef. Parents name their daughters Javelina

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    javelin and nlaw completely decimated Russia's uncoordinated ez-mode AI rush towards Kyiv.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BTW the Russians have reported the Chally2 was taken out by a Kornet.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: We post winners of the war
    sanctions
    Here’s what we know about the fuel crunch in Russia might be an oil producer but that hasn’t prevented it from suffering a major fuel shortage according to market sources familiar with the situation.
    Reuters spoke with market traders who noted that Russia was suffering from shortages of crucial fuels that are needed to harvest parts of the country’s southern breadbasket.
    The shortages were a result of maintenance issues at refineries, infrastructure problems on railways, and a weaker ruble incentivizing exports of fuel according to some traders.
    Exports over the domestic market
    Freedom Finance Global analyst Vladimir Chernov told Russian newspaper Izvestia that the ruble’s lowered value made fuel exports more profitable than their domestic market.
    "The fall in the value of the Russian rouble makes exports of oil products even more profitable than their sales to the domestic market,” Chernov explained according to a translation from Ukrainska Pravda.
    Chernov added that oil companies were trying to increase their export supplies which in turn was creating a major deficit in the country’s domestic market of gasoline and diesel.
    The Kremlin has worked to tackle the growing fuel problems in the country ahead of its presidential elections in March according to Reuters, which added that those solutions likely made Moscow’s issues worse.
    “A government decision to cut subsidies for refineries is likely [to] worsen the availability of fuel in the world's biggest grain exporter,” Reuters reported. Oil producers in Russia’s southern regions have had to cut their production or cut their fuel sales entirely, and filling stations have had limits placed on how much they can sell.
    One Russian trader noted that AI-92 gasoline wasn’t available in the regions of Adygea, Astrakhan, and Krasnador. “There is hardly any AI-95 gasoline and diesel," they added.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Iris-T and Gepard

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about Archer, Caesar, Bayraktar, SCALP, Piorun, Mv-4, Mig-25, MRAPs, BTR-4, Marauder and other stuff?

    It feels to me like you know 2 or 3 systems of the head and have confirmation bias towards them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Marauder
      Let's add Rapist to this. Also had a legendary status at some point of this war.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First of all, Bayraktar is mentioned, you mong.
      >What about
      Well, what about them? Does any of these systems have a song dedicated to it? Do Ukrainian parents name their kids after these weaopn systems? No.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's true though. I didn't say the Swedes weren't just as retarded..

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >stopped
    You mean slowed down. Also two can apparently play this game. Remeber Vuhledar during winter? There were minefields stopping Russian push.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >it's the year 2023
    >the 2-day special military operation has been going on for over 500 days
    >vatniks still don't know the difference between stopped and slowed down, ran out and running out, ...
    Feel free to add stuff to that list, guys.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Do tell, why do you hate ukranian citizens for fighting against being controlled by russia? what do you have against ukranian independence from russia? shouldn't ukraine becoming "globohomo" or "nato" be the choice of the people living there, not russian mafia/politicians in moscow? if poland, or spain, or zimbabwe want to become globohomo or or not, nato or not, isn't it their choice, not the choice of their neighbors?

    do explain why you hate ukrainians, becuase as a polish person i still understand ukrainian actions more than russian actions, even despite ukrainians murdering poles 70 years ago.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      careful the vatnik will spout shit about NATOs endless aggression towards Russia.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ok I don’t get it are they nazis or garden gnomes today? And are the ukrainians being opressed and in need of liberation from their brothers, or is filling their countryside with UXO and blowing off their legs the plan now? You guys are really hard to keep track of

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    An election under the guns of a foreign pwoer, with a severely limited set of options on the ballot, with lots of the actual inhabitants having fled.
    You also need to check up the laws of Ukraine to investigate what the actual rules for a secession is.
    Also, since you knew all of this already. Are you retarded?

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You mean Russia started a conflict in Ukraine with years of glowie intervention and now presses on something for legitamtion that would be illegal in Russia? Even only promoting seperatism in Russia will get you up to five years in jail, btw the law for it was made a few months before Russia went "litte green men" in Crimea", i think everyone can interpret that action.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only promoting seperatism in Russia will get you up to five years in jail
      Quoting this for truth.
      If separatism is illegal in Russia how can a VaaaahTnik claim that separatism can be legal in Dumbass and Luganda and Cry-me-a?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Once had a talk with a vatnik about it and he unironically said that all seperatism movements in Russia are fake and only fueled by the US and muh jooz, but then he was almost insulted when i said that the seperatism movement in east Ukraine was entire fueled by Russia and years of russian propaganda. They can think, they can figure out what is wrong, but then their vatnik brainrot kicks in and twists it into the opposite of reality, it's so mind boggling to watch.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    iirc in 2014 Girkin said he can't find a hundred volunteers for his little army in a city full of a million people while he was crying for Russia to send troops and equipment, you can extrapolate from that how real and important the seperatism was for the east. It was more of a "we are not satisfied how things are currently going so we will vote for it out of spite and to have levearge for future negations and compromises" thing than anything else.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    🙂
    I mean its just a truck but apparently the Ukrainians really like it for its survivability, usefulness and crew comfort ( was designed for long distances in the outback so it has AC )

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >survivability, usefulness and crew comfort

      You forgot the best part

      >it looks like a huge hog

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: People praise their national defense industry

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Crimea
    >taken over by Russian army
    >Bombass
    >FSB and GRU units gathered local criminals, prisoners and hobos, gave them guns, took over local cities and started bussing bydlo on blockposts because they had no support, had to get Russian army in because they were being crushed
    >100 football fans chased out all Puccia supporters from Mariupol

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the cope and seethe in this thread is delicious

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