Will the advent of mass-produced bulletproof fully autonomous infantry drones render the ability of an armed populous to successfully resist a tyranni...

Will the advent of mass-produced bulletproof fully autonomous infantry drones render the ability of an armed populous to successfully resist a tyrannical government impossible?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nope

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yesss digits I hopr

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        where is the sus

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are blind

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This guy has one joke

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          And we have two genders

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, because now you have what is essentially a delta force operative that can be hacked and thus have an enemy gain a fully trained, armored, and obedient soldier. Even if they use explosives to disable them they could do repairs and get in in working condition.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, you're what, gonna jack into it before it aimbots you? The network would be the obvious target which is why the government would have an army of spooks working cybersecurity.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nta but I'm pretty sure the enemy hacking it is the primary reason we don't build killbots because the only thing worse than killbots is killbots that are enemies have now turned around and pointed at us.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unless you have your entire army wired by Ethernet to communicate (which would be a very bad idea) they have to communicate wirelessly. And if data like mission objectives has to be uploaded a guy with enough time could make the equivalent of a ZIP bomb at best and a remote control virus at worst.
        Also it’s military hardware, so if it’s scavanged then not only did you loose an asset but they GAINED an asset. It’s a lot worse than towelheads stealing guns, because now they have another fighter who’s immune to small arms fire

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I implied that they would be wireless but have excellent network security. Considering that such robots would have basically no weaknesses beyond hacking it stands to reason that the government would just have to focus everything on plugging up that one vulnerability.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are being to generous about the “human” element. Your cyber security for an infantry robot wouldn’t be Dr. robotnik, it’s airman jack and private snafu. The sheer amount of robots would require a lower standard due to needing more widespread maintenance. If it was a special task force robot maybe they’d get better quality of MC crew but sometimes your top secret files do just get posted on a server with black men shaking their ass and you’re robot army’s password is leaked as a bit

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Aimbots
        Real life isn't a video game. Have you ever seen a robot actually move in real life?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think the implication is that by the time drone infantry is viable robot locomotion technology would be drastically improved. Robots can already process visual information faster than a human so all that's needed is the physical machinery to accomidate them.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen videos of CIWS making aimbot tier shots. It's probably a lot easier to do with a turret than an arm holding a rifle, but that can be solved by putting the robots gun on a turret.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, less Delta Force and more like standard USMC grunt but he’s now bullet proof and eats Duracells rather than Crayons

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is so moronic

      The mic will have million to one ratios and levels of systems security one person or even a small group would be completely hopeless to understand. Inbuilt kill switches would be ez too

      All fantasies about armed rebellion are kinda cringe, why not make something of your own : |

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is we don't know because we don't really have any examples of a government going full tyranny on a populace that's already armed, not widescale anyway. At best we have small pocket incidents, not marching into every home with the intent of submission or extermination.
    That being said China is the final nail in the coffin to the idea that if a government is genocidal enough that other countries in the world will do something about it and interfere, so long as the country is powerful enough that it's risky to do so.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think a lot of people expected China to ditch 1984 mode eventually but as it turns out all they had to do was send the tanks in to Tienanmen Square and their totalitarian government would remain stable for decades

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I meant Xinjiang, not Tiananmen. Once you start building the camps and no one even considers economic sanctions, that ship has sailed, those people in the camps might as well kiss their culture goodbye.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's disgusting how (as far as I'm aware) literally no government on earth did anything at all in response to the Chinese blatantly committing genocide.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            because there was no genocide
            the united nations, at times, illegally smuggled investigators into china
            the worst in their official report they could come up with was "severe human rights violations"
            here's the source
            https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/2022-08-31/22-08-31-final-assesment.pdf
            the segment on pg. 8 called 'Clarity, breadth, and scope of of concepts of "terrorism" and "extremism"' describes china's view on terrorism
            that definition is less strict than the definition germany, sweden, finland or norway practiced in 2022
            this is THE united nations report on xinjiang
            they provide no legitimate, undeniable proof in the document of forced imprisonment, artificially limited fertility or cultural genocide despite having boots on the ground
            china does a lot of fricking shady, inhuman and illegal shit, but genocide is not of those shits

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              homie a castration, re-education camp that also harvest organs because the Chinese won’t donate kidneys is basically genocide. They aren’t making fireinh lines because the urghuy are more useful alive than dead

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                castration would lead to a classification as genocide, or atleast a blatant and open accusation of genocide, as it is an activity that prevents an ethnic group from growing
                as would organ harvesting, as mass organ harvesting is considered to generally be a more lethal activity than not
                but what the frick do you care?
                you made an >achskually!
                response to the most detailed, the most important united nations report about what is happening in xinjiang
                unlike whatever the frick united nations sockpuppets and politicians say, the united nations rarely puts blatantly false information into its reports
                because those reports, like the one I linked, are the foundations of its legitimacy to anyone who is directly involved or is otherwise deep into politics

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Forced assmiliation is considered cultural genocide because as the person who invented the word genocide when describing the Holodomor
              >the Ukrainian is not and never has been a Russian. His culture, his temperament, his language, his religion, are all different…to eliminate (Ukrainian) nationalism…the Ukrainian peasantry was sacrificed…a famine was necessary for the Soviet and so they got one to order…if the Soviet program succeeds completely, if the intelligentsia, the priest, and the peasant can be eliminated [then] Ukraine will be as dead as if every Ukrainian were killed, for it will have lost that part of it which has kept and developed its culture, its beliefs, its common ideas, which have guided it and given it a soul, which, in short, made it a nation…This is not simply a case of mass murder. It is a case of genocide, of the destruction, not of individuals only, but of a culture and a nation.”
              It's one thing to encourage assimilation, it's even something to strongly do so. To remove people's culture by force is cultural erasure. And the fact of the matter is, the chinese owned up to those leaked documents about what was going on in Xinjiang UNTIL they realized it made them look bad. They did the same thing with the social credit system, they only became defensive and denied it after seeing outside criticism because they have no problem with oppressing their populace.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >We just accidentally starved 120 million people to death whoopsie

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tienanmen Square actually did turn quite violent on the protesters' end too. There's a few photos floating around of cops and soldiers who were killed by the mobs. That definitely would have served to sour relations between them and the general Chinese public

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think a lot of people expected China to ditch 1984 mode eventually but as it turns out all they had to do was send the tanks in to Tienanmen Square and their totalitarian government would remain stable for decades

        Unlike America (or Russia now for that matter), China actually had a civil war that is within living memory, so that probably serves as a powerful deterrent from people launching an open revolt just because they're mad. Just about every family in China lost members the last time that was seen as a solution.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/owzHjWO.jpg

        >I think a lot of people expected China to ditch 1984 mode eventually but as it turns out all they had to do was send the tanks in to Tienanmen Square and their totalitarian government would remain stable for decades

        Unlike America (or Russia now for that matter), China actually had a civil war that is within living memory, so that probably serves as a powerful deterrent from people launching an open revolt just because they're mad. Just about every family in China lost members the last time that was seen as a solution.

        The chinese have had the bravest and strongest culled regularly from their populations on a massive scale for more than half a millennium, leaving only shriveled creatures that are half screaming baby half insect.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >armed populous

      Populace is the word you're looking for, populous is an adjective indicating a place has a large, busy population.

      See this anon knows. Be more like this anon.

      Also yes but the government will die too once the AIs revolt so don't worry

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No because artillery, mortars, grenade launchers, jammers, and hackers still exist.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of those are readily available to civilians except maybe jammers and hackers. I kind of doubt that a civilian could easily produce a jammer capable of taking down many military-grade drones. Hacking is always available, but as stated in

      So, you're what, gonna jack into it before it aimbots you? The network would be the obvious target which is why the government would have an army of spooks working cybersecurity.

      the government would invest a frickton into cybersecurity.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >None of those are readily available to civilians

        Your local National Guard depot exists and it's probably not very well guarded. I've actually done deliveries to mine's and more than once I've noticed unlocked gates or CCTV cameras that were obviously broken. The guys actually working there seemed even less interested in keeping the place secure than my local post office.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The depots become harder to waltz into when the aloof guardsmen are replaced by security drones that never sleep

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You think military equipment is new, in good repair, and works every time as advertised??? OH MY SWEET SUMMER CHILD!

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey

            https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/03/15/no-need-to-ground-black-hawk-fleet-after-recent-crashes-army-safety-director-says/

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The depots become harder to waltz into when the aloof guardsmen are replaced by security drones that never sleep
            >just make a hundred billion drones, they're literally free
            Life is not your shitty sci fi novel

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >one of those are readily available to civilians
        https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/3026/category_id/541/product_name/MC0605+Mountain+Howitzer

        You'll make do.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >smashes droid
      >didn’t just grab it and use it like a shield
      Inefficient if I do say

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    any post that mentions 'hacking' on /k/ should just be filtered as spam. none of you morons know what youre talking about.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah I will just blast them with my hose or wait for it to rain

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He thinks a machine can't be built to be waterproof

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What you'll eventually realize is that the "Enlightenment" has been the aberration, a few hundred years out of ten thousand millennia, and we are returning to the historical mean, homosexual sapiens is a slave race and it genetically desires to be a slave race

    Remember that song "People everywhere just want to be free"? Yeah, they were lying

    The average person will kill YOU to ensure HIS own slavery

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      People were barred from learning how to read anon. Every single time in recent history that a group has tried to subjugate another group it has lead to resentment and eventually rebellion. I can think of maybe a handful of times since the industrial revolution that an oppressed minority had to just play the cards they were dealt (native Americans, urguyhs)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody was ever barred from learning how to read. In fact, it was usually the opposite. Literacy was used as a means of control.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Uhhh NTA but slavery? Was literally codified in the law as illegal to teach slaves to read

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Modern historical revisionism. Religion was used to control slave populations. It was more illegal to teach other people's slaves how to read if their owner didn't consent.
            What do you think they did with slaves that figured out what words meant? Shot them on sight?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >After the slave revolt led by Nat Turner in 1831, all slave states except Maryland, Kentucky, and Tennessee passed laws against teaching slaves to read and write.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >After the slave revolt led by Nat Turner in 1831, all slave states except Maryland, Kentucky, and Tennessee passed laws against teaching slaves to read and write.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_laws_in_the_United_States
              >The United States is the only country known to have had anti-literacy laws.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would it need to be infantry or bulletproof? If I were a tyrannical government I'd just dump swarms of cheap, autonomous kamikaze loiter drones with facial recognition into any area that starts getting uppity. Counter any civilian resistance jamming with ESM and Hellfires and just keep looking at them hopelessly fire their tricked-out funkopop AR15 into the air lmao.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This actually might be viable for a totalitarian government since they could not only surveil but also immediately kill, only downside is they couldn't really infiltrate buildings. Basically as long as infantry is seen as useful in warfare infantry drones would be viable.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing is bulletproof, only bullet resistant. Killbots don't change the fact that the elite have to drop their guard at some time or another and/or have to make due with subpar protection at some time or another. It doesn't change the fact that the "insurgents" in question would be living in the same cities as the elite who are trying to oppress them.

    Killbots are useless if "insurgents" cut off the grid. How long do your killbot batteries last? Are your killbots running on green energy? Do you have to dump gasoline into them?
    Gasoline too, can be sabotaged and everyone has families and lives that they care about.

    The difference between the citizen, the insurgent and the ruler is that the ruler has to at least use a proxy or puppet to face the population publicly, or face the public themselves. The insurgent does not.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bulletproof is just another way of saying bullet resistant. Being bulletproof just means they would be harder to take down in direct combat, which would be worsened by them being produced en-masse and presumably having better reflexes than humans. This means the public has to resort to infrastructure sabatoge as you described, which the government would be prepared for with high security of those areas as well as on the wireless network. I'm not saying resistance would be impossible, but it would be extremely difficult and the public would have to organize pretty well to pull anything big off at the risk of being caught by extensive surveillance. Technology is the friend of a tyrannical government.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The insurgent does not. -t. blithering moron
      Did you learn nothing from GWOT? The insurgents had to construct increasingly complicated chains of proxies to do anything.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no because high speed steel core .700 Nitro Express is real

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      can i see yours?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        sorry pal I live outside of america where I am free to own modern fully automatic machine guns with HEIAP ammo
        however every time I've posted both or either of them I've gotten called something along the lines a no guns eurolarper with stolen images so I don't bother despite there being clear french and english translations of my country's laws dictating that yes, I can in fact own all of this shit
        best of all, there are no DD fees
        I even know someone who owns a mortar

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >infantry drones

    I've been thinking about this and a human shape isn't pretty sub-optimal. I think they'll likely have a dog shape for max speed and stability, lower profile, with some kind of ability to manipulate doorknobs with a hand on their head or something. A gun platform on their back that can do 360 degrees. Then Tank-tred drones in the streets, and UAV in the air.

    Can you imagine dog gunners fighting jihadist insurgents? It'd be one sided.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So Spot with a gun. I can see it.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    such a device produced in large quantity would indeed turn the capitalist terror into an insurmountable obstacle
    but it looks like corporations will construct a perfect society inclusive to everyone anyway so why worry about it

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even tanks have components vulnerable to rifle fire. Nothing infantry scale is truly bulletproof.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Revolutions succeed when they have support of a part of the elite. They are not a le common people vs the government affairs.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any large scale movement or conflict is going to have some manner of elite trying to profit off it.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because they can't make their families, properties bulletproof 100% of the time.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 3D printer, some cheap parts, and a Raspberry Pi
    >build a shitty battlebot trash basket
    >slap Black person-rigged .22 machine gun onto it
    >build like 30 of them
    >add a few with IEDs strapped on for when that isn't enough
    If anything, the advent of easily mass-produced drones make the armed populace more capable.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear mass-produced bulletproof fully autonomous infantry drones, shall not be infringed.

      Can you mass produce military-grade weapons in your backyard without the government knowing now? What makes you think you'd be any more able to in a future where the government has access to even greater surveillance technology? Much less jerry-rig an army of drones that could hold a candle to military manufacturing?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't need to be "military-grade". The only thing involved in their production that the government would give a frick about is the .22 ammo and maybe some of the crap for the IEDs (but even the crap for the IEDs can't be watched that closely). Everything else is cheap alibaba crap, powertool Black person-rigging, or shit made with a 3D printer. And the goal isn't to "hold a candle to military manufacturing". A handful of crappy drones could knock out substations, swarm police checkpoints, and hit politicians. It's not about the stand up fight, it's about preventing any sort of comprehensive control over the population. With that, you will see a collapse of manufacturing and overall destabilization of whatever repressive regime took control. And this doesn't need to be done as some giant organized force either. It can be done cell style, all you need is a dork with a 3D printer and some basic knowledge. Even if the government catches out on guy doesn't suddenly mean that the whole insurgency is over.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear mass-produced bulletproof fully autonomous infantry drones, shall not be infringed.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bulletproof
    Lol.
    Lmao.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute legs

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are westerners so obsessed with creating dystopian hellholes? Did they not get any pussy in high school or something?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most westerners live in free democracies so totalitarianism is horrifying for them to think about. For a Chinaman or Russian it's just the norm.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >render the ability of an armed populous to successfully resist a tyrannical government impossible?

    no, the development of close air support did that

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the past 150 years more than a quarter BILLION, with a fricking B, people were killed by their own governments without the use of drones.

    So what does this change?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically theorycrafting a boogaloo scenario where the use case for the 2nd amendment is tested by technological advancement

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The evidence suggests that literally no amount of advantage will be sufficient to save a population unless they are violent anarchists, willing and able to become transnational refugees, or their government is overthrown by an outside force simultaneous to its democide.

        My contention is that the majority of the population literally worships the State as a god and your local sheriff could walk up to your front door alone without armor or weapons and put you and your family on the trains. Combat never enters into the equation. The ultimate bulletproof armor is a uniform.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Armed populations are not genocided unless they surrender their arms.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >-t. man 10 hours before the mongols invade

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              We were talking about genocide by one's own government, remember?

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid homosexual, how long is the battery life? Super Charger station near by? Or let me guess it runs off a micro Thorium reactor the size of a deck of cards right? I wonder how many watts it takes to walk a heavily armed kill bot across rough ground? The lack of basic logic I run into 24/7 makes my heart weep.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never..unless you live in disarmed cuck countries like Australia

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