It would be better for the EU overall to let Turkey take Cyprus. Greece and Cyprus are leeches who contribute nothing. Cyprus's economy is based on money laundering.
Turkey already took half of it, genocided all the Greeks in that half, and no one did anything. The British have military bases there and they just watched Turks kill Greeks.
So no, there would be no consequences.
>hope for them to go home
British army in Istanbul literally start to shit in their own pants while ataturk coming closer and closer. Check the mails between the Istanbul and British Government at that time.
And check this
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/themes/kemals-nationalists-collapse-government.htm
Once the commies were defeated in the Greek civil war, Cyprus became a safe haven for sour & beaten commies.
The Enosis Greeks and commie Greeks in the 1950s were killing the British soldiers on the island. Hence, the British were not hesitant to aid the Greek Cypriots.
>The British have military bases there and they just watched Turks kill Greeks.
You mean the Greek Cypriots were killing Turkish Cypriots and Brits.
>Turkey already took half of it, genocided all the Greeks in that half, and no one did anything.
This is literally the opposite of what happened.
Turkey took 1/3 of the island, not 1/2. They could have taken more land or just done regime change in the south, but chose not to do either because Turkey wanted to end Greek carnage and nothing punitive.
In the 1960s Greek Cypriots started ethnically cleansing Turkish Cypriots, which additionally forced the ones in central and southern Cyprus to flee to the north, thereby concentrating there. Then in 1974 the Greek Cypriots launched a military coup, backed by Greece, and they planned to genocide the island of minorities while merging with Greece proper.
Turkey launched the invasion, while Britain who has had troops on the island since 1878 okayed it, and then the northern 1/3 of the island was partitioned into a separate state. The island hasn't had any violence ever since.
Turkey derailing the Greek ethno-nationalist coup benefited NATO. The only reason why Northern Cyprus is still an issue today is because Greek diaspora/lobbyists in the West don't like it and neither did Russia and China. In 2004 the UN even held a referendum, and 70% of Greek Cypriots voted against unification.
>his father's orcish behaviour, lmao.
Oh yes, Erdogan was behind Cyprus in 1974. Makes sense. Do you npcs ever use your brains or do you always default to the pre-programmed talking points?
>it's hilarious.
Greeks constantly getting butt-blasted by Turks is indeed hilarious since the opposite hasn't happened in over a century.
>Oh yes, Erdogan was behind Cyprus in 1974. Makes sense. Do you NPCs ever use your brains or do you always default to the pre-programmed talking points?
Why do you think I'm talking about Erdogan, my little brainwashed friend? "Father" refers to ancestors, if you're referring to Erdogan as "daddy" I'll have to ask you to keep your king to yourself.
>Greeks constantly getting butt-blasted by Turks is indeed hilarious since the opposite hasn't happened in over a century.
Turkey had just cause for invasion as a guarantor state (one of the states signing treaty of guarantee) for Cyprus. Roll on the ground and cry as much as you want. That's the truth.
The situation is the same with some of the Aegean islands. If Greece continues to arm them in violation of past agreements, Turkey can demilitarize those islands with force as well.
Stop behaving like an ex-gf gayreek. I know you lust for our wiener, but we moved on from imperialistic ambitions, you should too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>we moved on from imperialistic ambitions, you should too.
Yeah, sure. Erdogan posing in front of maps like these are just rhetoric.
Anyway, I'd like to see you try demilitarize those islands.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God he is hideous.
Like some mutant crossbreed of Hitler and a bearded gypsy lady.
Plus that c**t Makarios was planning to give a naval base to the Soviets, so Uncle Sam kinda looked the other way as the Turks pushed the Greeks' shit in. Greece as a result chimped out and left NATO, only to be allowed back in by Turkey not vetoing them.
>Why did they buy the S-400 then?
Siper was only finished around 2021 and is in testing. Turkey's wanted Patriot missiles for decades and been denied. After Turkey shot down a Russian jet for violating its airspace in 2015, not only was it still denied, furthermore, the US and other states except Spain pulled out their own missiles from Turkish soil.
Turkey also proposed joint NATO patrols in Black Sea to counter Russia in early 2016, and got no response there either. Then the coup attempt happened in July 2016, which many Western media and figures openly cheered on while it happened. Turkey at this point needed air defense systems to keep its airspace safe, not only from Iran, Syria and Russia but other regional rivals such as Greece, France, Egypt, UAE. At the same time, the West not having Turkey's back against Russia meant that Turkey had no choice but to mend ties with Russia and order the S-400s.
Turkey's experience through the course of the 2010s was a learning experience, a "never again" moment. NATO is functionally dead and Turkey is on its own. Several NATO and EU states have long been in a cold war with Turkey and it has nothing to do with anything Turkey has done to them but rather them being beholden to anti-Turkey lobbyists and special interest. Germany even denied rifle and pistol exports in the early 2010s, leading to Turkey ramping up its own program and now Turkey has several rifles and machine guns across several companies. Turkey was denied the purchase of US armed drones in 2012, and went ahead with its own program and niw Turkey is the largest exporter of UCAVs globally.
> https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/turkey-begging-us-drones/325371/
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-05-22/turkish-bid-for-drones-stalls-in-congress-president-gul-says
>Turkey's wanted Patriot missiles for decades and been denied.
Isn't that because they wanted tech transfer?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Isn't that because they wanted tech transfer?
No. Turkey suggested tech transfer originally because hey, why not try for extras, but backed down from that and said they agreed to pretty much all US terms except that they wanted to be able to control whom the Patriots would be used to shoot at. This seemed a pretty reasonable thing to ask especially since this was during the time when the US started supporting PKK/YPG and Turkey was vary of their Patriots being useless if they tried to use them to defend against America's commie lapdogs.
The US refused. Turkey immediately realized that this meant that America did not intend for them to be able to use their Patriots to defend against one of the biggest threats to Turkey and its citizens and told the US to go and shove those Patriots up their ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Turkey needed Patriots to defend against PKK/YPG's nonexistant airforce
And the denial of Patriots to Turkey is going to make Turkey a SAM powerhouse as now Turkey is building everything at home on its own. From 8 km range MANPADS to satellite killer AA
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah and a star destroyer too
2 years ago
Anonymous
Funny thing that Turkey is planning a hard landing on the moon in a year or so
2 years ago
Anonymous
what does that image mean ?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know
2 years ago
Anonymous
Turkey is 3D printing MRBMs with composite filaments. 1,35m diameter is more or less a Chinese 3000-3500km medium-range ballistic missile tech in many aspects. Which can also be used for delivering sub 500 kg satellites to 400 km orbit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not 3d printing you fricking moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fiber composite feed is mounted onto a robotic arm and the mandrel is rotating and moving on a linear line. It gives 8 axes of motion. It's called 3D Winding if you need to know.
2 years ago
Anonymous
alright but what does the image
https://i.imgur.com/Es0TbkR.jpg
Funny thing that Turkey is planning a hard landing on the moon in a year or so
mean ?
what is circled and why is it important that both things circled are the same ?
In todays episode:
-Clueless tourists try to provide insight into a situation they have no reasonable knowledge in.
-Butthurt ArmeBlack folk and Gayreeks saying Turkey is powerless and too dangerous at the same time.
-Turkish glowie posting his clearly copy pasted reply with sources for 70th time
all France would have to do is wait until watermelon man crashed the economy to the point that there is a civil war between his watermelon morons and the rest of the population.
No one gonna bring up there there is a perpetual force of UN soldiers there that Turkey would have to kill to do this?
Might that have some consequences? They unironically might become more of a pariah than best korea if they did that.
>Turkey
>attacking another NATO member
literally for what purpose?
>Muh special club
To kick out the Greeks and take the gas.
Cyprus is not in NATO and it wouldn't stop them really anyway
Cyprus is in the EU which has a defense treaty of their own.
Roaches being roaches.
Erdogan isn't good pals with Putin for nothing.
>pals
Lol.
Greeks looking for human shields to protect them from their dumbfrickery biting them in the ass.
Go back to Plebbit / Twitter.
Can't ever trust the roaches
Make the Greeks seethe
I mean, they might, but I'd put more money on the fricking RAF airstrip on cyprus being the first responders
>will EU states mobilise if EU territory gets invaded?
Jeez I dunno guys
the answer is no btw
it's not a military alliance
>This shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States.
It would be better for the EU overall to let Turkey take Cyprus. Greece and Cyprus are leeches who contribute nothing. Cyprus's economy is based on money laundering.
Greece & Cyprus should go.
Turkey already took half of it, genocided all the Greeks in that half, and no one did anything. The British have military bases there and they just watched Turks kill Greeks.
So no, there would be no consequences.
Britain also occupied Turkey after WW1 and all the Turks did was hope for them to go home eventually, just losing 70% of it's territory.
>hope for them to go home
British army in Istanbul literally start to shit in their own pants while ataturk coming closer and closer. Check the mails between the Istanbul and British Government at that time.
And check this
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/themes/kemals-nationalists-collapse-government.htm
Once the commies were defeated in the Greek civil war, Cyprus became a safe haven for sour & beaten commies.
The Enosis Greeks and commie Greeks in the 1950s were killing the British soldiers on the island. Hence, the British were not hesitant to aid the Greek Cypriots.
>The British have military bases there and they just watched Turks kill Greeks.
You mean the Greek Cypriots were killing Turkish Cypriots and Brits.
>Turkey already took half of it, genocided all the Greeks in that half, and no one did anything.
This is literally the opposite of what happened.
Turkey took 1/3 of the island, not 1/2. They could have taken more land or just done regime change in the south, but chose not to do either because Turkey wanted to end Greek carnage and nothing punitive.
In the 1960s Greek Cypriots started ethnically cleansing Turkish Cypriots, which additionally forced the ones in central and southern Cyprus to flee to the north, thereby concentrating there. Then in 1974 the Greek Cypriots launched a military coup, backed by Greece, and they planned to genocide the island of minorities while merging with Greece proper.
Turkey launched the invasion, while Britain who has had troops on the island since 1878 okayed it, and then the northern 1/3 of the island was partitioned into a separate state. The island hasn't had any violence ever since.
Turkey derailing the Greek ethno-nationalist coup benefited NATO. The only reason why Northern Cyprus is still an issue today is because Greek diaspora/lobbyists in the West don't like it and neither did Russia and China. In 2004 the UN even held a referendum, and 70% of Greek Cypriots voted against unification.
Look at this little orc trying to justify his father's orcish behaviour, lmao.
Turks are always manage to be such moustache twirling villains, it's hilarious.
>Look at this little orc trying to justify his father's orcish behaviour, lmao.
Went from roach to orc, what's next?
Gayreeks keep getting stomped though.
>his father's orcish behaviour, lmao.
Oh yes, Erdogan was behind Cyprus in 1974. Makes sense. Do you npcs ever use your brains or do you always default to the pre-programmed talking points?
>it's hilarious.
Greeks constantly getting butt-blasted by Turks is indeed hilarious since the opposite hasn't happened in over a century.
>Oh yes, Erdogan was behind Cyprus in 1974. Makes sense. Do you NPCs ever use your brains or do you always default to the pre-programmed talking points?
Why do you think I'm talking about Erdogan, my little brainwashed friend? "Father" refers to ancestors, if you're referring to Erdogan as "daddy" I'll have to ask you to keep your king to yourself.
>Greeks constantly getting butt-blasted by Turks is indeed hilarious since the opposite hasn't happened in over a century.
Yet here you are, seething.
Lol, you need to pump up those insults, gayreek. We won't let warmongering fools like you genocide our people, deal with it.
Imagine thinking you're the "good people" and the others are "warmongering fools".
Turkey had just cause for invasion as a guarantor state (one of the states signing treaty of guarantee) for Cyprus. Roll on the ground and cry as much as you want. That's the truth.
The situation is the same with some of the Aegean islands. If Greece continues to arm them in violation of past agreements, Turkey can demilitarize those islands with force as well.
Stop behaving like an ex-gf gayreek. I know you lust for our wiener, but we moved on from imperialistic ambitions, you should too.
>we moved on from imperialistic ambitions, you should too.
Yeah, sure. Erdogan posing in front of maps like these are just rhetoric.
Anyway, I'd like to see you try demilitarize those islands.
God he is hideous.
Like some mutant crossbreed of Hitler and a bearded gypsy lady.
Nah, he looks just like Smeagol.
>the grorc yells genocide as he murders you
You got what you deserved for the shit you pulled in Cyprus, accept it.
cool story turk give the official story about the Armenian genocide next
Plus that c**t Makarios was planning to give a naval base to the Soviets, so Uncle Sam kinda looked the other way as the Turks pushed the Greeks' shit in. Greece as a result chimped out and left NATO, only to be allowed back in by Turkey not vetoing them.
Paris is basically New Istanbul at this point
That would be germany
Paris is full of Black folk/algerians but there's very little turks
I lived in Paris. There are too many Turks. Along with everything else it's true. I suppose I should have said, Paris is the Ottoman Empire in a city.
>There are too many Turks.
If there is one Turk there are too many Turks.
Bien sur, bonhomme
Doubt those were Turks and not some other Arab mystery meat. Turks have a stable 2.1 birthrate while Syrians, Iraqis etc all are way above that
Paris is black. Germany is Turks. London is South Asians (Pakis, Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshi)
Can the French planes evade this? Also S400?
CGI
It's not Anon. Turkey has its own 150+ km long-range SAM (called Siper) and it covers the airspace over Cyprus from the Turkish mainland.
Why did they buy the S-400 then?
>Why did they buy the S-400 then?
Siper was only finished around 2021 and is in testing. Turkey's wanted Patriot missiles for decades and been denied. After Turkey shot down a Russian jet for violating its airspace in 2015, not only was it still denied, furthermore, the US and other states except Spain pulled out their own missiles from Turkish soil.
Turkey also proposed joint NATO patrols in Black Sea to counter Russia in early 2016, and got no response there either. Then the coup attempt happened in July 2016, which many Western media and figures openly cheered on while it happened. Turkey at this point needed air defense systems to keep its airspace safe, not only from Iran, Syria and Russia but other regional rivals such as Greece, France, Egypt, UAE. At the same time, the West not having Turkey's back against Russia meant that Turkey had no choice but to mend ties with Russia and order the S-400s.
Turkey's experience through the course of the 2010s was a learning experience, a "never again" moment. NATO is functionally dead and Turkey is on its own. Several NATO and EU states have long been in a cold war with Turkey and it has nothing to do with anything Turkey has done to them but rather them being beholden to anti-Turkey lobbyists and special interest. Germany even denied rifle and pistol exports in the early 2010s, leading to Turkey ramping up its own program and now Turkey has several rifles and machine guns across several companies. Turkey was denied the purchase of US armed drones in 2012, and went ahead with its own program and niw Turkey is the largest exporter of UCAVs globally.
> https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/turkey-begging-us-drones/325371/
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-05-22/turkish-bid-for-drones-stalls-in-congress-president-gul-says
>Turkey's wanted Patriot missiles for decades and been denied.
Isn't that because they wanted tech transfer?
>Isn't that because they wanted tech transfer?
No. Turkey suggested tech transfer originally because hey, why not try for extras, but backed down from that and said they agreed to pretty much all US terms except that they wanted to be able to control whom the Patriots would be used to shoot at. This seemed a pretty reasonable thing to ask especially since this was during the time when the US started supporting PKK/YPG and Turkey was vary of their Patriots being useless if they tried to use them to defend against America's commie lapdogs.
The US refused. Turkey immediately realized that this meant that America did not intend for them to be able to use their Patriots to defend against one of the biggest threats to Turkey and its citizens and told the US to go and shove those Patriots up their ass.
> Turkey needed Patriots to defend against PKK/YPG's nonexistant airforce
And the denial of Patriots to Turkey is going to make Turkey a SAM powerhouse as now Turkey is building everything at home on its own. From 8 km range MANPADS to satellite killer AA
yeah and a star destroyer too
Funny thing that Turkey is planning a hard landing on the moon in a year or so
what does that image mean ?
>he doesn't know
Turkey is 3D printing MRBMs with composite filaments. 1,35m diameter is more or less a Chinese 3000-3500km medium-range ballistic missile tech in many aspects. Which can also be used for delivering sub 500 kg satellites to 400 km orbit.
That's not 3d printing you fricking moron.
The fiber composite feed is mounted onto a robotic arm and the mandrel is rotating and moving on a linear line. It gives 8 axes of motion. It's called 3D Winding if you need to know.
alright but what does the image
mean ?
what is circled and why is it important that both things circled are the same ?
Phallic victory.
>the US and other states except Spain pulled out their own missiles from Turkish soil
>Not our problem
lmao based.
Unless they are civilian airliner they should be fine
are turks insecure or why do they feel the need to drape everything in turkish flags?
Where is this 'France is gonna help' meme coming from? Where is there something is going to happen meme coming from? Have I missed something?
Can you trigger article 5 against a NATO member?
I say we nuke turkey and find out
Never forget RODGER DAVIES, the US Ambassador to Cyprus, was also killed by fascist Greek Cypriots in cold blood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodger_Davies
Why not?
Imagine being a chickenshit "people" that you have to ask for other countries to invade an island for you
Imagine being such insecure little man that you post the equivalent of "1v1 me bro" on a forum about weapons.
In todays episode:
-Clueless tourists try to provide insight into a situation they have no reasonable knowledge in.
-Butthurt ArmeBlack folk and Gayreeks saying Turkey is powerless and too dangerous at the same time.
-Turkish glowie posting his clearly copy pasted reply with sources for 70th time
coonsidering there's lots of oil deposits around cyprus it wont be just the french to mobilize, also greece is NATO so article 5 gets triggered.
all France would have to do is wait until watermelon man crashed the economy to the point that there is a civil war between his watermelon morons and the rest of the population.
No one gonna bring up there there is a perpetual force of UN soldiers there that Turkey would have to kill to do this?
Might that have some consequences? They unironically might become more of a pariah than best korea if they did that.
>UN soldiers
Salvadorans or Filipinos?
Cyprus seems pretty militarily close with Israel as well. I wonder if Israel would get involved in such a scenario.
Turkey has proven it's ability to airlift forces from Libya to Azerbaijan.