Will .277 Sig Fury ever amount to anything on the citizen market?

Will .277 Sig Fury ever amount to anything on the citizen market? I don't see any advantages over shooting 7mm-08 from a 20-24" barrel, which are popular AR-10 lengths anyway

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Will .277 Sig Fury ever amount to anything on the citizen market
    No. Not even in its moronic 80k flavor that sig is already backtracking on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're going back on that? What happens first: army goes back to 20" barrels or give up entirely?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the military does go through with it then yes it will catch on if only because people want what the military is using + vets who get out and want their old service rifle. We saw this with the beretta 92 and that was right in the middle of every boomer shitting on 9mm and crunch-n-tickers in general. Yes die hard and lethal weapon helped but you unironically would hear prepper types throughout the 90s saying all these 9mm autos are trash for y2k or whatever except for specifically the beretta even though a sig p226 is literally jus as gud.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beretta 92FS and 9MM are good designs though. It's a great handgun and what ISN'T chambered for 9mm outside of intentional designs meant for magnum calibers?
      You're not going to see that kind of widespread usage for .277 meme when other calibers exist and accomplish it's niche just as well; one of them being one of the most ubiquitous modern short action calibers of our time, 7.62x51 NATO/308 Winchester

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they're only producing 100k rifles. that's nothing. there's no future here, and some paper pusher needed to justify their job.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they're only producing 100k rifles. that's nothing
        100,000 is not nothing, not even for the US army.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It kinda is m8

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It kind of isn't. It's not a replacement anymore.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it absolutely is. if it were a real replacement, it would be on a five year renewable indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity contract. it isn't. it's basically a test bed run order. in 10 years, or less, they'll revaluate and decide this isn't the way to go, but they'll use the fancy optic and go with something even more in between, like a longer OAL for the m4 platform.
          cap this.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give it 20 years and it'll supplant 308, 270, and 6.5 Sneed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not if you cant reload it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hybrid cases are probably going to be more reloadable than regular ones once they're figured out.

        The primer pockets loosening isn't going to be a problem because they're steel and not brass. When the brass is eventually fricked there's less to replace but most importantly the casehead doesn't need to be replaced. Maybe the aluminum washer would need to be replaced occasionally also.

        Also, if 80kpsi is safe in these cases then you could use smaller cases to get "full-power" performance. A hybrid 7mm-08 or .284 would reach or exceed 280Rem performance. Or a 6ARC/6.5Grendel could reach .243/.260 performance.

        So at the regular pressures you get more case life and the cases are cheaper to replace, and at higher pressures you're probably replacing brass more often but you're saving on powder and the fact the brass is smaller and less complex to manufacture.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It requires a beefed up bolt head and barrel extension, yeah? Somebody needs to make a DPMS gen3 or whatever for it before anything can get started

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can see this happening, but only if prices come down from the $4/round bullshit of today.

      And if that happens, hybrid case will supplant brass case for every action length.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay anon but what if .277 gay furry out of an 18" barrel?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the military actually goes through with it then yes, it'll be a massive civillian mainstay. However, it'll take a couple decades for the ammo surplus to grow and prices to go down. It'll also never catch on with older generations of hunters who're happy with their .308's, 30-06's, and 6.5cm's; so it'll take a while for the newer generations of shooters to outsize the older ones. Starting to see that now with 6.5cm - a whole lot of younger hunters pick it as their first durr rifle, whereas 10 years ago the obvious choice would've been .308 or .243.
    Real question is whether the military will go full moron and mass-adopt it. My guess is if we have to go give China what-for in the Pacific within the next 5-10 years, there won't be enough of the new Sig rifles& cartridges to equip the huge swell of troops, so the military will double back and give almost everybody an M4 in 5.56, and in the process realize the M4 was always the better option for fighting a massive industrial enemy. If that happens soon then no, it won catch on

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're going back on that? What happens first: army goes back to 20" barrels or give up entirely?

      If the military does go through with it then yes it will catch on if only because people want what the military is using + vets who get out and want their old service rifle. We saw this with the beretta 92 and that was right in the middle of every boomer shitting on 9mm and crunch-n-tickers in general. Yes die hard and lethal weapon helped but you unironically would hear prepper types throughout the 90s saying all these 9mm autos are trash for y2k or whatever except for specifically the beretta even though a sig p226 is literally jus as gud.

      "107,000 rifles in ten years" always felt like the Army copping out
      Literally 50x as many Garands, M14s and M16s were procured during each rifle's respective introduction

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      7mm-08 MENTIONED

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >6.5cm
      are you fricking hunting helicopters with 65 mm rounds?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you…not?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God I hope so.
    I want a fuddy durr rifle in .277 Pissin’ Hot.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it sees any kind of widespread use with the military, and supposedly it will and especially if it somehow becomes a NATO standard round, it will be everywhere for a very long time.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >steel casehead
    RIP in peace ejectors and extractors

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look, for the civilian market there was really never a need for semi automatic intermediate caliber rifles and there sure as shit isn't going to be a need for these

    It's there so you can larp as a military tacticool operator and fantasize about defending your home from an inexplicable gang of moronic but well equipped goons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >there was really never a need for semi automatic intermediate caliber rifles
      He thinks his handgun is a death ray lmao.

      2200fps is the floor for exceeding the elastic limit of flesh, everything below that does nothing but poke holes in things.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You missed his second paragraph

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's nothing to address in it.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Will .277 Sig Fury ever amount to anything on the citizen market?
    I actually think it will. The brass case variant is doing ~3000 FPS from a 16" barrel. That's nuts. It's going 5.56 speeds at well over twice the projectile weight. That's some real energy, and without the absurd pressure of the steel reinforced variant meant to do the same from 13" barrel. The US military was already going this direction with the M80a1 which got around 3000 FPS with a 135 gr projectile, near identical performance...from a 24" barrel.

    Not so sure it will replace 5.56, but it has real potential to kill 6.5 and .308.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How are you supposed to do suppressive fire (the Army's primary tactic since WW2 being to have the grunts hold the enemy in place while the Air Force drops an anvil on them) with that kind of recoil?
      135 grains going from 0 to 3000 fps over 13 inches is going to knock even the biggest of meat heads around without some sort of counter weight system.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Normally I'd say with a machinegun, of course, but they moronicly went with a non quick change barrel for those so uh, you hope and pray. Alternatively the new optic and its capabilities will make such tactics redundant, as soldiers will be able to accurately engage from far beyond the traditional envelope due to having their optic do literally everything short of pull the trigger for them.

        Either way that's not my problem, OP asked about the civilian market. For the military I think the guns will wind up replacing the M240 and m110, but only time will tell.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >near identical performance

      What is ballistic coefficient? The 6.8 has much higher SD and a finer ogive.

      No way 308 will endure with 6.8 in the mix. It is a better cartridge in literally every way. And the hybrid case is close enough to 6.5CM that it can obsolete that too (is 6.5CM even used by the armed forces though?)

      Captcha: M80S2 kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >is 6.5CM even used by the armed forces though
        SOCOM was buying 6.5CM rifles and testing them. I believe the Geissele rifle they settled on for the MRGG was 6.5 CM. They've also been playing with 6mm ARC.

        That's probably all getting scrapped and replaced with a 6.8 DMR eventually.

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