The AH-64 has a pivoting auto-cannon. KA-52 gets shredded like wet toilet paper. Of course, the Apache is also just more technologically advanced in terms of virtually all of its logistical support systems, even if the KA-52 has a higher speed and supposedly has more maneuverability.
>two shot down >to ATGMs
I don't care how many missiles you strap to a wobbly airframe, if you can't get basic laser warning systems right, you're not the best of anything
For my money the AH6 would be a good choice for them because of the smaller logistical footprint. >designed to operate from improvised forward bases >light fuel requirements >still launches hellfires
For my money the AH6 would be a good choice for them because of the smaller logistical footprint. >designed to operate from improvised forward bases >light fuel requirements >still launches hellfires
Actually a pretty good idea. Little gnats that can sneak up and snipe irritating Russian things.
because it's a dumb idea. the time it would take to train them to use it properly vs. their vulnerability in an AA heavy environment would be a 100% waste. better to send more HIMARS and ATACMS.
>The article goes on to say that Zelenskyy’s "usual sparkle of [...] optimism, his sense of humor, his tendency to liven up a meeting in the war room with a bit of banter or a bawdy joke" have not survived into the second year of the full-scale war. "Now he walks in, gets the updates, gives the orders, and walks out," a longtime member of the president’s team told Shuster.
>"Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential adviser in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder, so he could speak more freely," Shuster wrote. >"Simon, you’re mistaken," an aide said. "People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow."" >The same official claimed that the Defense Minister’s firing did not have the desires effect because it took so long to occur.
Because it's not real. The biggest sign should have been "money missing". The U.S. is sending aid worth an approximate dollar amount not just outright handing cash over to Ukraine.
The U.S. is outright handing cash over to Ukraine, which is not being accounted for, for the explicit purpose of graft, which is the only interest U.S. politicians have in that war.
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>2019 >Zelenskyy owned businesses and used bong tax havens that all the rich use reeee
Really? This is all you have?
I sleep.
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Except the US isn't sending cash.
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correct, we were sending blank cheques with zero oversight, right up until gaza popped off
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>we
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the term “blank cheques” would mean they could write any dollar amount which couldn’t fly in congress. Nice try, Vasha, your understanding of the English language is worse than my understanding of Russian.
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that's what has already happened, saying "it would never fly" about what has already occurred is nonsensical
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/us/politics/ukraine-spending-congress.html
>maybe ukraine wouldn't he losing so badly
nigga, ruskies wasted heaps of men and material trying to take over a fucking slag mountain, only to have the ukies reclaim it right after with minimal resistance. If this is Ukraine losing, what the hell would Ukraine winning look like?
They are better kept for the next time the US invades dirt farmers instead of sending them into the most contested airspace on earth.
US pilots would have a chance of SAM hunting with them but Ukies with rushed training are just going to die.
to get at least one serious response into this thread:
because they require extensive training and dont provide any ability that ukraine needs urgently
they have plenty of anti-tank measures already, combine this with their lack of airspace control and the cost/benefit ratio of attack helicopters are very, very bad
Because american advisers decided to exchange all available mi-24 and mi-8 in the world for super cobra and give soviet junk them instead
Cause no one cares about them anymore
They're the best offensive helicopters in the world, still.
Best kekw
Did I fucking stutter?
*blocks your path
>Endangered Species
The AH-64 has a pivoting auto-cannon. KA-52 gets shredded like wet toilet paper. Of course, the Apache is also just more technologically advanced in terms of virtually all of its logistical support systems, even if the KA-52 has a higher speed and supposedly has more maneuverability.
Somebody post the WEBM of the KA-52 putting holes in its own cabin because the barrels wobble so much.
Wait, that comes in video too? I've only seen the result. Do post.
>two shot down
>to ATGMs
I don't care how many missiles you strap to a wobbly airframe, if you can't get basic laser warning systems right, you're not the best of anything
No they dont deserve it cuz they didnt say "please"
They don't have enough points to unlock that type of unit yet because they invested in other skill trees.
Because early versions of apache are currently pretty much useless if russian AD is still standing and americans don't want to send longbow version
Amerimutts don't want any side to win the war. They won't send any definitive weapon.
Are they really such a great idea in an AA heavy environment? Also you need fuel to supply them, these fat bitches drink tons of fuel.
MI-24s are flying, despite having only unguided missiles, I am pretty sure anything with hellfires could be more effective
For my money the AH6 would be a good choice for them because of the smaller logistical footprint.
>designed to operate from improvised forward bases
>light fuel requirements
>still launches hellfires
>absolutely zero survivability in a near-peer conflict zone
>tiny ordnance load
>outclassed by satellites and drones for recon
Terrain masking, homosexual.
Actually a pretty good idea. Little gnats that can sneak up and snipe irritating Russian things.
Ukrainian glowies asked for them at the beginning of the war but looks like nothing happened after
I'm getting sick of this shitty indian spamming the board with inane questions, bros.
because it's a dumb idea. the time it would take to train them to use it properly vs. their vulnerability in an AA heavy environment would be a 100% waste. better to send more HIMARS and ATACMS.
The Apache is the one that went in and took out anti-air SAM defenses in Iraq...
Every SAM is anti-air. Surface to air. Air. It's in the air.
Manned CAS is a thing of the past
>The article goes on to say that Zelenskyy’s "usual sparkle of [...] optimism, his sense of humor, his tendency to liven up a meeting in the war room with a bit of banter or a bawdy joke" have not survived into the second year of the full-scale war. "Now he walks in, gets the updates, gives the orders, and walks out," a longtime member of the president’s team told Shuster.
he has truly embraced Total Zigger Death
maybe ukraine wouldn't he losing so badly if he actually spent those funds on the war effort
No such article exist, tried to google it.
>"Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential adviser in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder, so he could speak more freely," Shuster wrote.
>"Simon, you’re mistaken," an aide said. "People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.""
>The same official claimed that the Defense Minister’s firing did not have the desires effect because it took so long to occur.
Very cool, now let’s see the linked article, surely you have it, anon.
Because it's not real. The biggest sign should have been "money missing". The U.S. is sending aid worth an approximate dollar amount not just outright handing cash over to Ukraine.
The U.S. is outright handing cash over to Ukraine, which is not being accounted for, for the explicit purpose of graft, which is the only interest U.S. politicians have in that war.
>2019
>Zelenskyy owned businesses and used bong tax havens that all the rich use reeee
Really? This is all you have?
I sleep.
Except the US isn't sending cash.
correct, we were sending blank cheques with zero oversight, right up until gaza popped off
>we
the term “blank cheques” would mean they could write any dollar amount which couldn’t fly in congress. Nice try, Vasha, your understanding of the English language is worse than my understanding of Russian.
that's what has already happened, saying "it would never fly" about what has already occurred is nonsensical
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/us/politics/ukraine-spending-congress.html
>maybe ukraine wouldn't he losing so badly
nigga, ruskies wasted heaps of men and material trying to take over a fucking slag mountain, only to have the ukies reclaim it right after with minimal resistance. If this is Ukraine losing, what the hell would Ukraine winning look like?
Why not post the original article?
bro its gdp per cap is sub 1000 how they gonna buy apaches
Is the waste heap that demoralizing for you?
Because they cost a lot of money and the Ukrainians are cheap
Ukraine doesn't fight like NATO, they prefer cheap drones and artillery spam.
They are better kept for the next time the US invades dirt farmers instead of sending them into the most contested airspace on earth.
US pilots would have a chance of SAM hunting with them but Ukies with rushed training are just going to die.
Because Poland is getting the new Apaches and will just 96 it will be the 2nd largest Apache operator after the US.
to get at least one serious response into this thread:
because they require extensive training and dont provide any ability that ukraine needs urgently
they have plenty of anti-tank measures already, combine this with their lack of airspace control and the cost/benefit ratio of attack helicopters are very, very bad